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Issac Daneil |
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I thoroughly despise people who try to win at collaborative games like tabletop RPGs or boardgames which require players to work together.
You?
I dislike greedy characters who have to track out every gold coin they or the party receive. They treat their alliance as a business instead of a team, and focus primarily on amassing as much PERSONAL wealth as possible, going so far as to charge allies premiums and fees above production costs for things like potions or scrolls.
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I dislike board games where one player is the "GM" against the rest of the players. Doom, Mansions of Madness, etc, etc. Though I do have a sentimental attachment to Heroquest, but its not exactly like those mentioned above. So I guess I have an exception to my own rule.
I do not care for sports video games. Occasionally, like once every 5 years or so, one comes out my friends introduce me to that I get a kick out of. Generally though, I would never buy a sports video game.
Edit: Ah total misread on my part thought you asked about games I don't like.
The absolutist is my least favorite type of gamer. The guy or gal who must act in a binary way without exception towards a certain game element. "My God hates y" "My ranger has X favored enemy so I hate them so much!!!11!1!!" These folks will kill first and ask questions later regardless of the situation. Often times doing so despite their allies asking them to show some restraint. Its even worse when they are suicidal about it and die hilariously while being outnumbered and outclassed because, "I just hate it so much cant help myself!"
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People who cannot role play
Otakus
Nekos
Anime fanboys/girls
Refrences
Metagamers/powergamers
People who are occupied often
Perverts
If I gave a discription for each reason, this list would be enough to fill a mirriam webster.
If I GM and you fall under any of these categories, I will tell you once in a quiet room, perist and I will torture you untill you leave by your own will.
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Artemis Moonstar |
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1) People who auto-hate anything "weeabo". (Just because I like anime does not give you the right to $#!7 kittens when I show up at your table)
2) Those that take this game too seriously. (This is not an acting theater, it's a game, #$*^ing relax already!)
3) Min-maxing, powergaming, metagaming, "You do 2 points less DPR than I do? YOU FAIL AT LIFE! GO KILL YOURSELF!" pricks. (See #2).
4) Those that have a conniption at one off-color (perverted) joke and auto-lump all perverts in with the completely socially inept mouth-breathers (the ones that stare at your GF and shout "TITS OR GTFO!" on Halo?).
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Issac Daneil |
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I don't like gamers who act all self righteous and give all kinds of attitude over other peoples play styles, such as counting coins or playing an anime inspired character.
Also I dislike rude people and people with nasty odors which is just another way to be rude to others.
I meant to emphasize people who drag the game down by arguing rates of 27% additional compensation for crafting potions for the frontline who eat all the hits for him.
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Closed minds
Football players who seem to have gotten lost on the way to the field (I am referring to American football, I don't know how well these stereotypes hold outside the US)
Bean-counters
People whose goal is to "break" the game for some reason (and think they're serving some noble larger purpose because of it)
People who use the terms "flavor/fluff/crunch"
People who almost seem to take pride in "hating RP"
People who take dice superstitions too seriously
Someone I met in one game who played a Dwarf Barbarian/Fighter (nothing wrong with that; it was a gestalt game, by the way), but seemed to be SERIOUSLY trapped in "Warhammer mode;" when he joined the party, he told the DM "If I see an Elf, I'm gonna kill 'em; if I see Chaos, I'm gonna kill 'em" (nevermind that Barbarians have the "non-Lawful" alignment restriction; that was news to him - oh, and we were in a setting defined by a "WWI no-clear-good-guys-or-bad-guys" conflict between black-robed divine Order mages and white-robed arcane Chaos mages, and we were more on the side of the Chaos mages than not); he then spent the rest of the game's duration (it collapsed mainly because someone's car that was full of critical campaign material got stolen, but there were other reasons) talking incessantly about Elves in a way that...well, suffice to say that if you replaced every instance of his use of the word "Elves" with "Jews" or "blacks" or something like that, he'd no doubt have been asked to leave the gaming store. It might have been amusing had it not been so unnerving.
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Someone I met in one game who played a Dwarf Barbarian/Fighter (nothing wrong with that; it was a gestalt game, by the way), but seemed to be SERIOUSLY trapped in "Warhammer mode;" when he joined the party, he told the DM "If I see an Elf, I'm gonna kill 'em; if I see Chaos, I'm gonna kill 'em" (nevermind that Barbarians have the "non-Lawful" alignment restriction; that was news to him - oh, and we were in a setting defined by a "WWI no-clear-good-guys-or-bad-guys" conflict between black-robed divine Order mages and white-robed arcane Chaos mages, and we were more on the side of the Chaos mages than not); he then spent the rest of the game's duration (it collapsed mainly because someone's car that was full of critical campaign material got stolen, but there were other reasons) talking incessantly about Elves in a way that...well, suffice to say that if you replaced every instance of his use of the word "Elves" with "Jews" or "blacks" or something like that, he'd no doubt have been asked to leave the gaming store. It might have been amusing had it not been so unnerving.
Oh joy an absolutist...../thumbs down
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Artemis Moonstar |
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Pan wrote:Except worse - ham-fisted gaming is one thing, but one actually got the sense that if a living, breathing Elf walked in on our game, there would have been a serious problem. Bizarre.Oh joy an absolutist...../thumbs down
I... Can't even wrap my head around this one. All I got is he's got racist issues and directed them into gaming rather than dealing with showing the real aspects out of game.
Or maybe he got molested by a christmas elf as a child. Who knows?
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Aranna |
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Aranna wrote:I meant to emphasize people who drag the game down by arguing rates of 27% additional compensation for crafting potions for the frontline who eat all the hits for him.I don't like gamers who act all self righteous and give all kinds of attitude over other peoples play styles, such as counting coins or playing an anime inspired character.
Also I dislike rude people and people with nasty odors which is just another way to be rude to others.
I have found the best way to handle those potions and wands that keep the group at top form is to set aside an extra share of the treasure just for such incidental costs and then if the group crafter is willing and the GM gives him time he can keep the group well stocked using the group petty cash fund to pay the crafting costs (without a markup) and if not then you still have funds set aside for the potion shop. But then I love to count those coins and it makes sense to keep a petty cash fund for the team. :p
If you want something extra like a shiny new sword you really should be paying the crafter something extra beyond basic construction costs.
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I'll admit I like getting into the story of my games, so when I make a backstory, I get a little detailed. Like, about the length of the Iconics backstory. So I might be biased. Regardless, I can't stand when someone shows up to a new game with a backstory two sentences long. Or worse: Amnesia. How is your character related to this world/setting/game at all? Did you even try? It might just be me, but it grates on my nerves like nothing else.
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Tinkergoth |
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Skeld wrote:What, you got a problem with my sense of style? Pinstripe suit + fedora = far better than any sort of newfangled "fashion" these kids are wearing today.... Pants down around your knees... WTF...I dislike anyone under the age of 60 that comes to gaming wearing a fedora.
-Skeld
Yeah, that one feels a bit unnecessary. I like my fedora... but I don't wear it much these days since apparently it makes people assume I'm involved with the whole Men's Rights Activist thing, and I'd rather not have to deal with that crap.
Honestly, the biggest annoyance for me? People who insist on playing characters that don't fit into a setting, even after they've agreed on that setting. Bringing slapstick characters to gritty games, gritty characters to slapstick games, things like that.
Also, in regards to specific games, people who feel the need to play Pathfinder gnomes as random for the sake of random nutcases or who fully embrace the stereotypical FishMalk way of playing a Malkavian in World of Darkness. I don't mind a bit of crazy, but when it's the only defining aspect of their character? Gets old fast.
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Artemis Moonstar wrote:Skeld wrote:What, you got a problem with my sense of style? Pinstripe suit + fedora = far better than any sort of newfangled "fashion" these kids are wearing today.... Pants down around your knees... WTF...I dislike anyone under the age of 60 that comes to gaming wearing a fedora.
-Skeld
Yeah, that one feels a bit unnecessary. I like my fedora... but I don't wear it much these days since apparently it makes people assume I'm involved with the whole Men's Rights Activist thing, and I'd rather not have to deal with that crap.
Honestly, the biggest annoyance for me? People who insist on playing characters that don't fit into a setting, even after they've agreed on that setting. Bringing slapstick characters to gritty games, gritty characters to slapstick games, things like that.
Also, in regards to specific games, people who feel the need to play Pathfinder gnomes as random for the sake of random nutcases or who fully embrace the stereotypical FishMalk way of playing a Malkavian in World of Darkness. I don't mind a bit of crazy, but when it's the only defining aspect of their character? Gets old fast.
I think I'll have to take a look at this "mens rights activist" thing. First time i've heard of it and sounds like something I should be warned about.
Personally, I hate the types of gamers that take a certain aspect of a race and blow it up to make the character essentially be Bowdlerized before they even have a chance at character derailment. Of any thing.
I also hate the types that have horror stories or bad experiences with a certain type, and then auto-ban it from EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING from that day forward. For example, I can never seem to play Kender anymore, because some douchebags decided to use the race as an excuse, lke CN, LG, CE, and Gnomes.
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Tinkergoth |
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Tinkergoth wrote:Artemis Moonstar wrote:Skeld wrote:What, you got a problem with my sense of style? Pinstripe suit + fedora = far better than any sort of newfangled "fashion" these kids are wearing today.... Pants down around your knees... WTF...I dislike anyone under the age of 60 that comes to gaming wearing a fedora.
-Skeld
Yeah, that one feels a bit unnecessary. I like my fedora... but I don't wear it much these days since apparently it makes people assume I'm involved with the whole Men's Rights Activist thing, and I'd rather not have to deal with that crap.
Honestly, the biggest annoyance for me? People who insist on playing characters that don't fit into a setting, even after they've agreed on that setting. Bringing slapstick characters to gritty games, gritty characters to slapstick games, things like that.
Also, in regards to specific games, people who feel the need to play Pathfinder gnomes as random for the sake of random nutcases or who fully embrace the stereotypical FishMalk way of playing a Malkavian in World of Darkness. I don't mind a bit of crazy, but when it's the only defining aspect of their character? Gets old fast.
I think I'll have to take a look at this "mens rights activist" thing. First time i've heard of it and sounds like something I should be warned about.
Personally, I hate the types of gamers that take a certain aspect of a race and blow it up to make the character essentially be Bowdlerized before they even have a chance at character derailment. Of any thing.
I also hate the types that have horror stories or bad experiences with a certain type, and then auto-ban it from EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING from that day forward. For example, I can never seem to play Kender anymore, because some douchebags decided to use the race as an excuse, lke CN, LG, CE, and Gnomes.
I've actually banned gnomes in my games... but only because I know my players. They're going to play over the top insane gnomes. They admit it. I agreed to let them try it once and spent the next few hours hearing two of them repeat the words "Gnome Bros" in increasingly shrill voices while cackling and giggling. Offer was rescinded shortly thereafter.
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Vincent Takeda |
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Hmmm. Bossy players. Anyone with rage issues. GM's who think its a good idea to create a 'theme' for their world that isn't loose enough to encompass all the possible choices the players might make for their characters. No shows. Calls and says they're sorry they're late and they're on their way but still end up being no shows. Go ahead and start without me I'll get there as soon as i can no shows... I like cute girls and katanas. I'm not an insane anime freak. I couldnt make it through an episode of evangelion and i've never even attempted an episode of naruto. Let me have my damn katana/bokken. It is the totem weapon of my 'player agency' and is the first sign of a gm that doesnt like players to have agency not to allow it. Gm's that dont allow crafting in a system that has crafting built into the rules. Gm's that say they allow crafting but then lynch your party at 3am in order to cancel out the attempt to craft anyway. The guy who's so busy playing the game of 'screwing with the gm' instead of playing the game that they rolled a character for. The player who describes antisocial behavior like pompouness or arrogance as 'playing in character'. The guy who wants the 'low magic/no magic' pathfinder game. Warforged. Kender. Dragonborn/dragonblood... Lawful neutral or lawful evil guys who want to be called 'paladins' and smite things.
Thats all I got off the top of my head...
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Gamers who take umbrage with an established world and refuse to stretch their creative muscles rather than get to make whatever combination they feel like.
And the most common subset of that - Weeaboos.
Anime is fine. Manga is fine. Japanese culture can be pretty cool. But I really don't want to role play with your Generic Ninja Stereotype #1,542. And I especially don't want to (in one disturbing case) even scratch the surface of your weirdo loli-fetishism.
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People IN GENERAL (not just in gaming) who only understand new and different things in terms of what little they already know ("X is like a family/a business/a sports team/my job"), insist on forcing the unfamiliar into their totem mold no matter how poor the fit, and lack the courage to tolerate uncertainty when they must.
"What a man does for pay is of little significance. What he is, as a sensitive instrument responsive to the world's beauty, is everything!"
- H. P. Lovecraft
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Hmm... One my fiance just mentioned that I feel the need to parrot, as it irks me so subtly I hadn't really noticed.
Ones who complain about character concept that is unoriginal or unimaginative, yet everything they ever come up with has already been done before. Everything. Has. Already. Been. Done. As they say, 'nihil novi sub sole'.
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Hmm... One my fiance just mentioned that I feel the need to parrot, as it irks me so subtly I hadn't really noticed.
Ones who complain about character concept that is unoriginal or unimaginative, yet everything they ever come up with has already been done before. Everything. Has. Already. Been. Done. As they say, 'nihil novi sub sole'.
I suspect that when someone does that, it's more the fruit of somebody's situational button-pushing (random example: somebody's excessively familiar with tokusatsu because their former roommate they hate shoved it down their helpless throat, yet has a genuine personal affinity and aptitude for gothic horror, so they can do fresh things with it where others would long ago have reached their limits) combined with imperfect social skills rather than some deeper viral fallacy.
Another one (again, this is a general gripe that goes beyond the confines of gaming):
People who abuse the tar out of allegations of hypocrisy. First of all, everybody is consistent and inconsistent in their own way - it's just a question of trying to understand how rather than projecting a strawman onto the unknown. Secondly, just because you're a hypocrite doesn't mean you're wrong.
I dislike people who have lists of people they dislike.
One of the less obnoxious, more RPG-appropriate things I heard from that unhinged Elf-hater I mentioned: Apparently, Warhammer Dwarves are known to keep something called a "grudge-book," which is almost exactly that, so it's mildly amusing that that comment comes from someone with a Dwarven avatar ("Nuhhhr, self-hating Dwarf! Blame-The-Mountain-Kingdoms-firster! If you hate Ironforge so much, why don't you move to Darnassus?!").
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Players who stubbornly refuse to learn how to play the game in general and their character in particular.
"What do I need to roll for attack?" gets old after the 20th time in a row, let alone the 200th time.
Players who's sole idea of roleplaying is to instigate in-party conflict. Seriously guys, the GM is already trying to kill us, we don't need to be watching our backs for daggers in co-operative games (Games like Paranoia, games about court intrigue, ect where PvP on some level is expected, that's fine. Your rogue backstabbing you the moment the dragon dies so he gets a bigger share of the loot? That's not fine. If I am forced to be OoC by having my character adventure with your sorry ass, the least you can do is break character enough to be trustworthy to your fellow PCs.)
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Sounds like a lot of these are contradictory with one another.
Some of my pet peeves:
- 1. Players that don't want to roleplay, but join a group where roleplaying is expected.
- 2. Players that create characters that are not from around the area, for the sole reason that they don't want to read/learn about the area.
- 3. Players that pick a race only for the racial stat modifiers. As in, they look for a +2 to their prime stat, then limit their racial selection to those races. Or those that always pick human for the bonus feat.
- 4. Players that cheat on their dice rolls.
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Gamers who:
- Present their lists of dislikes as the definitive condemnation that all others should not only heed but acknowledge as canonical gospel
- Declare any campaign parameter or stricture a "fundamental infringement of my right to play/do whatever I want"
- Employ their characters as proxies to hit on/harass another player
- Deploy their character's allies, henchmen, hirelings, friends, lovers, mounts, companions, summoned assistance and eidolons as cannon fodder to serve their own purpose as a player, even when their character's alignment would preclude such ruthlessness
- Take the "team" concept to preposterous extremes
- Take the "lone wolf" concept to preposterous extremes
- Make the game about their own socio-political agenda by trumpeting their beliefs to the high heavens in their campaign setting
- So favor their significant other during play that they might as well drop and do it right there in front of everyone
- Create a high Charisma/Comeliness character and then not only expect characters to react positively to them, but players to do so, as well, even if they are mean-spirited, have a face like ten miles of bad road, no basic hygiene, and have "recently slimmed down" to a "mere" 350 pounds
Strangely enough, I have no issue with someone who plays a variant of the same character time and again, so long as they're having fun, not irritating the crap out of the DM and fellow players and are role-playing well.
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The vast majority of what I dislike at a gaming table boils down to one irritating tendency.
"It's all about meeeee!!!!!!!"
Exactly how this manifests varies from person to person. They might be a drama queen, someone who insists they are present for every single things, someone who runs off by themselves at every opportunity, ect., ect., but the root cause always seems to be the same.
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I screen my players in advance, and run games for people I like. That means we're all playing together, me included. So it's not up to me to dictate their likes/dislikes.
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There aren't really types of gamers I don't like, but there are types of gamers with whom I prefer not to game. Seriously, it's nothing personal, but sometimes gaming styles just don't mesh well. Doesn't mean we can't be friends, it just means I prefer to game with other people who share my tastes. As it happens, I have the luxury of being able to do so where I live.
For instance, reading the lists another poster in this thread (whom I won't call out by name), it sounds like we would have some very different and incompatible approaches to the game. Doesn't mean he's a bad person or isdoinitwrong. I'd happily game with him at a con, or at a PFS game day, but the differences in our playstyles probably wouldn't work out in a long-term home game.
OTOH, I can tell from Jaelithe's posts that he or she would probably fit in my home group quite well.
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I have few I won't play with.
Those who refuse to use email or social media to communicate. Sometimes I'm just too busy to call or communicate in person. Made worse when they spend hours playing online. If one can play mmos for hours one can send a email or a message on Facebook.
Those that the GMG classify as "Lumps". Show up. Do minimal amounts of roleplaying. Offer no tactics and spend more time scanning their iPhone or iPad.
Optimizer sometimes. The ones that assume that does who do not have the best option for their character dont know what your doing. I'm all for advice just don't assume thAt I'm a idiot.
Those who insist on making non-optimized characters. I'm not saying make the best character. Make one that can contribute at the table. As roleplaying can only go so far. If it's a combat oriented campaign make someone that can at least hit the broadside of s barn. Or a evil group don't mskr a Paladin.
Those who tell me at the last minute when they can't dhowcto the game. I understand that sometimes life throws something at a person at the ladt minute. Or a person just does not feel like gaming. Dometimes I don't want to game either. Just don't tell me at 9 pm on a Friday when we're gaming Saturday afternoon.
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Those who tell me at the last minute when they can't dhowcto the game. I understand that sometimes life throws something at a person at the ladt minute. Or a person just does not feel like gaming. Dometimes I don't want to game either. Just don't tell me at 9 pm on a Friday when we're gaming Saturday afternoon.
Just how much notice do you need? My group plays on a weeknight, and there have been many, many times where one of us could not make it(overtime at work, sick kids, etc) and did not find out they could not make it until just shortly before the game is scheduled to begin. Personally, as long as someone just tells me at some point before the game, I'm fine with it. I just can't fathom needing more than a day's notice.
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Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:I dislike people who have lists of people they dislike.One of the less obnoxious, more RPG-appropriate things I heard from that unhinged Elf-hater I mentioned: Apparently, Warhammer Dwarves are known to keep something called a "grudge-book," which is almost exactly that, so it's mildly amusing that that comment comes from someone with a Dwarven avatar ("Nuhhhr, self-hating Dwarf! Blame-The-Mountain-Kingdoms-firster! If you hate Ironforge so much, why don't you move to Darnassus?!").
I made a dwarven barbarian closely fashioned after the Warhammer dwarven slayer (sans the Elf-hate because that really didn't fit the roleplay) that worked out very well!
I also had a half-elf Inquisitor (Valor-Saranrae), that kept a "Book of Grudges". Reading the right-hand pages was the holy texts. Flipping the book over and reading the other right hand pages was the role-play for all the juicy Knowledge rolls. Yes the book was chained to her belt. Yes, she wore the top hat of doom (see Solomon Kane, or any WHF Inquisitor). It, too was awesome.
P.S. Read Grimnir's backstory for hints on how he became a barbarian. (It's pure WH roleplay ported over to Pathfinder)