Not as long has the human is medium, because the Large greatsword would be treated as a size larger than two-hand and since it doesn't exist you can't wield it.
Nah. A one handed size large weapon requires a size medium creature to swing it two handed. So a medium creature would need more than two hands to wield a size large two handed sword. Essentially, the handle is too big for you. I think it's BS though, because my last barbarian was stronger than a lot of large creatures, so we just house ruled it that I had a size large blade attached to a size medium handle and jacked the price up to like 300 gold or something. So the rules say no, but I'd ask your DM about it and see what he says.
I don't see why you couldn't house rule it in. But it would seem to me you would suffer more than a -2 penalty for what you gain. But maybe -2 is the right minus i cant say for sure there.
But i don't see why you cant do what you know. I just don't know if Pathfinder has any rules for doing that. So I'm guessing it has to be home ruled.
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In Pathfinder there are three designations for melee weapons: light, one-handed, and two-handed.
You can't wield anything smaller than light, such as a medium-sized human wielding a small-sized dagger, and you can't wield anything larger than two-handed, such as a medium-sized human wielding a large-sized greatsword.
You could wield a large-sized bastard sword, though, since it's a one-handed weapon normally. You'd need Exotic Weapon proficiency to pull it off, though.
I want to make a human fighter that uses an Large size greatsword. (With a -2 penalty.)
Is that possible?
There's a 3rd-party feat called lighten weapon that allows that. It's up to your gm whether you may select and use that feat. If allowed, it's up to you to decide if it's worth using a feat for that.
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@Paizo team
Please write an errata/FAQ for 'Inappropriately Sized Weapons'. We need a more detailed clarification for all the players that want to use biiggggger weapons. There is at least one thread per week with topics related to Inappropriately Sized Weapons.
When you do that please add rules for Inappropriately Sized Armors and Shields!
Thanks :)
The rules are fairly clear. I think the problem is 3.5 had Monkey Grip and people remember/want that back.
It may be the feat that Gotham deserves, but not the feat that Gotham needs right now.
Also, really? I fail to see why people think increasing the damage die increment is that big a deal. So you do a little more damage? Most damage comes from from static modifiers not weapon dice. Not to mention the penalty to hit probably isn't worth the damage gained in most cases, but whatever. I disgress.
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Most damage comes from from static modifiers not weapon dice. Not to mention the penalty to hit probably isn't worth the damage gained in most cases
Just look at the average of those dice increases as static modifiers.
A Medium Bastard Sword does 1d10 (average 5.5)
A Large Bastard Sword does 2d8 (average 9)
Add Lead Blades, it becomes 3d8 (average 13.5)
Add Enlarge Person, it becomes 4d8 (average 18)
From Medium to effectively Gargantuan you're increasing the "static" damage by +12.5, all of which is technically doable at level 1, and only at the cost of some resources and a -2 to-hit.
In order to get +12 damage from Power Attack you'd have to be wielding a two-handed weapon and have a BAB of +8, and you're still suffering a -3 to-hit. Add the two together, and you're +24 damage by suffering only a -5 to-hit. I'd certainly do that on a high level Fighter who can afford the sacrifice.
Plus, people love rolling dice.
Most damage comes from from static modifiers not weapon dice. Not to mention the penalty to hit probably isn't worth the damage gained in most casesJust look at the average of those dice increases as static modifiers.
A Medium Bastard Sword does 1d10 (average 5.5)
A Large Bastard Sword does 2d8 (average 9)
Add Lead Blades, it becomes 3d8 (average 13.5)
Add Enlarge Person, it becomes 4d8 (average 18)From Medium to effectively Gargantuan you're increasing the "static" damage by +12.5, all of which is technically doable at level 1, and only at the cost of some resources and a -2 to-hit.
In order to get +12 damage from Power Attack you'd have to be wielding a two-handed weapon and have a BAB of +8, and you're still suffering a -3 to-hit. Add the two together, and you're +24 damage by suffering only a -5 to-hit. I'd certainly do that on a high level Fighter who can afford the sacrifice.
Plus, people love rolling dice.
Yes, which being a bastard sword and using Amiri as the example is all perfectly legal.
If you allowed Monkey Grip it would move to 6d8 from 4d8. Adding 9 more damage. Which is very nice to be sure, but in order for most martials to pull this off they would need outside help, and would have to spend turn(s) buffing to pull this off? Does the increased damage make up for the lost damage at the start of combat?
I dunno. And as you point out, it's really only powerful when combined with many other ways of effecitvely increasing damage die size where it gets to crazy porportion. Which is really just a problem with how they scale. It just needs to be adjusted so it doesn't scale as much, or caps out after a few size increases (as a balance restriction).
What is it the Fighter needs to be epic? Because in my opinion if you want to be able to fly, shoot lightning bolts, create walls of stone, leap 3 stories, teleport, catch lightning bolts and laugh at the gods then you don't want to play a fighter.
I want to make a human fighter that uses an Large size greatsword. (With a -2 penalty.)
Is that possible?
As a side note you can have a great sword enchanted with the 'impact' quality which gives it the same damge as a size larger great sword.