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Paul Watson wrote:
Just going to leave this and this here.

I did as well as a chimpanzee. Huzzah!


"how well do you know the world that we say will be here tommorow!"


wow this thread is all over the map now:

Random points:

As already mentioned, the best way to reduce populations growth is to raise the standard of living. A well educated, healthy, and employed populations is going to churn out less children. Yes...they will have a higher impact on resources, but that is where developing renewal energy sources and materials will hopefully come into the picture

Climate Change and megafaunal extinctions: The current sense I get from the mammalian paleontology community is, yes...humans were the main driver of the end Pleistocene extinctions, which in the geologic perspective are still ongoing with current species losses. Climate was probably a factor, in that periods of climate change would have potentially put additional stresses on populations and made them more vulnerable to over-hunting. Now...there were probably some background extinctions going on that had nothing to do with humans. Florida Bog Lemmings almost certainly were taken out by environmental change. Stag Elk were probably outcompeted by newly emigrating Moose. And some species seem to have some weird patterns going on that don't really make sense yet. In particular, extinction in NA horses and bison.


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[Drums fingers, patiently waiting for an opportunity to talk about communism again]


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I scored like a chimp, too, Doodles! Hurray for commonalities between Reds and effete aristocrats!

OOK OOK!!

(If anyone ever asks about this again, I plan to say, "No, you misheard me. I said champ; I scored like a champ." And then I'll ply them with champagne until they can't argue.)


Lord Dice wrote:

OOK OOK!!

My players fought a cleric of Angazhan, this past weekend, and his charau-ka followers.

I discovered that I am incapable of performing a decent ape imitation.

:(

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Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?

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pres man wrote:
As an Earthist, not an "environmentalist", I say we go to Mars and pollute the living hell out of it! Who is with me?

Sounds eerily like the plot of Red Mars/Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. Watch out, though, if you pollute too much the Reds will drop the beanstalk on your head.

(No, not *those* Reds, sit down, Anklebiter)


Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?

Obscure/obtuse slaad is obscure/obtuse.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?
Obscure/obtuse slaad is obscure/obtuse.

Thanks! The Magic All-One threw me, that sounds like some of the word salad you find on the side of Dr. Bronner's soap.

I see now that I was misled by communist perfidy!

*shakes fist*


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Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?
Obscure/obtuse slaad is obscure/obtuse.

Thanks! The Magic All-One threw me, that sounds like some of the word salad you find on the side of Dr. Bronner's soap.

I see now that I was misled by communist perfidy!

*shakes fist*

Yeah, the Dr. Bronner reference was deliberate too. Slaad brain's are part Markhov text generators and part refrigerator magnetic poetry sets, powered by caffeinated pop culture memes, and wrapped like stinky fish in random pages from a Steve Allen book.


Dr. Jan Jansen III, Turnip King wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?
Obscure/obtuse slaad is obscure/obtuse.

Thanks! The Magic All-One threw me, that sounds like some of the word salad you find on the side of Dr. Bronner's soap.

I see now that I was misled by communist perfidy!

*shakes fist*

Yeah, the Dr. Bronner reference was deliberate too. Slaad brain's are part Markhov text generators and part refrigerator magnetic poetry sets, powered by caffeinated pop culture memes, and wrapped like stinky fish in random pages from a Steve Allen book.

And for something visual that's not too abysmal, part of an old Steve Reeves movie.


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MagusJanus wrote:
Dr. Jan Jansen III, Turnip King wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:

Don't forget your sunglasses and Dr. Vonnegut's Magic-All-One Sunscreen.

Dr. Bronner?
Obscure/obtuse slaad is obscure/obtuse.

Thanks! The Magic All-One threw me, that sounds like some of the word salad you find on the side of Dr. Bronner's soap.

I see now that I was misled by communist perfidy!

*shakes fist*

Yeah, the Dr. Bronner reference was deliberate too. Slaad brain's are part Markhov text generators and part refrigerator magnetic poetry sets, powered by caffeinated pop culture memes, and wrapped like stinky fish in random pages from a Steve Allen book.
And for something visual that's not too abysmal, part of an old Steve Reeves movie.

Who the f+!$ is Steve Reeves?


Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
pres man wrote:
As an Earthist, not an "environmentalist", I say we go to Mars and pollute the living hell out of it! Who is with me?

Sounds eerily like the plot of Red Mars/Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. Watch out, though, if you pollute too much the Reds will drop the beanstalk on your head.

(No, not *those* Reds, sit down, Anklebiter)

I was thinking Calvin & Hobbes.


Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
No, not *those* Reds, sit down, Anklebiter)

You sure?

Liberty's Edge

Wow, seven pages when I expected something like seven responses.


Andrew, how long have you been here on the boards? =)

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I think I lurked for around a year, then made my first post December 2005 (about one of the Dungeon adventures).

I once posted a dozen and more times a day, but over the last couple years, not so much--sometimes a dozen times over several months :-(

I [qualia] feel/believe [/qualia] we used to have such discussions here. Maybe we still do; maybe I'm just getting (am already) too old.

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A year ago I wrote this:

Maybe we need a 'Hot Button Nuclear Death Plague' section of the message boards.

Enter at your own risk, no holds barred, etc.

Personally, though, I appreciate how civil the Paizo boards are compared to the rest of everything. I also like the way the Mods delete our occasional jerkier moments, which saves us the embarrassment of explaining exactly what we meant after we've cooled off and can't remember at all exactly what we meant.

Maybe it really is a matter of transitional perspective.


Andrew Turner wrote:

I think I lurked for around a year, then made my first post December 2005 (about one of the Dungeon adventures).

I once posted a dozen and more times a day, but over the last couple years, not so much--sometimes a dozen times over several months :-(

I [qualia] feel/believe [/qualia] we used to have such discussions here. Maybe we still do; maybe I'm just getting (am already) too old.

My own feeling is that novelty value may make threads seem interesting and exciting; but after the first couple of thousand posts of seeing the same arguments on the same topics repeated over and over again, on thread after thread after thread the novelty value wears off – and interest and excitement go with them.

Of course, if memory fades, interest may return...

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
No, not *those* Reds, sit down, Anklebiter)
You sure?

Well, less sure now, but weren't they 'Reds' in the same way that enviro parties on earth are 'Green'?

Hmm, and thinking about it, weren't the Reds from the books the reactionary ones who blew things up because they were against Progress?


*Gets caught in sun's gravitational pull*

Damn.


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Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
No, not *those* Reds, sit down, Anklebiter)
You sure?

Well, less sure now, but weren't they 'Reds' in the same way that enviro parties on earth are 'Green'?

Hmm, and thinking about it, weren't the Reds from the books the reactionary ones who blew things up because they were against Progress?

To be honest, I've never read them.

But...I might as well put this in here:

Recently my old college chum, Omar the Arab Terrorist-turned-Union Field Rep, moved into the Free NH Goblin Resistance clubhouse. It's been pretty great, but he hates Dungeons and Dragons. First, because it's stupid; and, second, because it's racist.

Now I'm not going to go into why Omar thinks D&D is racist, because some of it is insulting, and some of it is hilarious, but, regardless, he's going on and on about D&D being racist and I'm like "screw you, buddy, I'm going to finish watching these bootleg DVDs of the 1980s cartoon, so nyah!" That drove him out of the room for a bit, which allowed me to [bubble bubble bubble] and objectify Sheila the Thief in peace (I know it's creepy that I am objectifying a cartoon character who is only 14 years old, but I used to lust after her bach when I was 14 myself, if that makes it any less creepy) when an episode called "The Time Lost" comes on.

If you don't happen to remember this episode, well: Venger is opening up rifts into our Prime Material Plane and sucking in all kinds of heroes, and one they pull in is Josef Muller, an ace Nazi jet pilot, who becomes friends with the gang. Omar walks through the room, "See, this is exactly the kinda shiznit I'm f&$+in' talkin' about!"

To make things worse, the next episode is called "Odyssey of the Twelfth Talisman" and if you don't remember that one, well...

Jump to 00.14 if you get bored

"I can't even watch this shiznit," Omar says and storms out of the room.


He's right you know!

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2opah?Dungeons-and-Dragons-Cartoon#6

That shiznit will f#*# with your fragile mind!


The cartoon is an expression of pure, collectivist evil, gobbo. Omar is spot on.


I tried watching it. My brain kicked into self-protect mode and stopped writing sensory information into short-term memory.

So... I remember something about a song and then it all goes blank.


Sissyl wrote:
The cartoon is an expression of pure, collectivist evil, gobbo. Omar is spot on.

Didn't the writers deliberately make the cavalier right almost half the time as a take that against this trend?


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Uh, no. The cavalier was the one who actually thought for himself. Things like "seems like a lot of orcs are coming here, maybe we should run". The others did not agree : "no, we stand and fight, no matter how many there are!" Every single time this happened, he was wrong and shown to be so by the others as a part of the "pro-social message". The idea was that being an individualist was always wrong.


Y'know what's funny, the only thing I remember from that show was a scene where the Cavalier used his magic shield to save everyone from falling rocks, and another character was surprised that he'd saved everyone when he was always so negative. Lil Hitdice understood it as a wonderful lesson about how those who dissent from the popular view are still valuable members of society, but going by Fergie's link, I guess I was watching it wrong.


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Oooga booga booga!

D&D is racist.

(Btw, Omar won't be my friend on Facebook because he says my name and profile picture--generic gobbo pic--are "trigger worthy" and he doesn't want to subject his other friends to me. Me and my local comrade have started a group, the Committee to Friend Doodlebug Anklebiter, and we stalk him on Facebook, showing up in threads about picket lines and hospital closings to say "Hey Omar! I'm sorry your D&D character died last night, you free for next weekend?")


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Sissyl wrote:
The cartoon is an expression of pure, collectivist evil, gobbo.

Hmmm, I wonder if that's where I got it from...

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:
...Phhhft second rate American New England, You need a proper Australian New England that looks nothing like England... ;-)

You know, I'm still trying to determine whether New South Wales was meant to be a new version of south Wales, or whether it was meant to be like Wales, only new - and south! The entire region is grammatically imprecise!

Wait, what were we talking about? ...The D&D cartoon? Isn't life short enough without that!?


Neo-fascist plotlines and evil collectivism aside, I kinda like the cartoon. Even Uni.

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I'm not saying it's a bad cartoon - by the standards of the time it was OK. It had a few moments. But it had as much to do with Dungeons & Dragons as the movie I, Robot had to do with the novel I, Robot.

But that's an entirely different rant that I just don't have the strength for at the moment. Then again... perhaps I do have the strength, after all.

"The following movie is based on a book. By which I mean we glanced through Chapters 1-3 and stole a few names. Other than that, we spit on the dumb ol' book. We only stole the name so we could get you to buy tickets to our movie. You chumps."


[Shrugs]

Plus, it's racist.


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Neo-fascist plotlines and evil collectivism aside, I kinda like the cartoon. Even Uni.

Many childhood actors never recover from the Hollyweird meatgrinder; for some, it was only the start of their Fall to Ultimate Evil.

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