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The Roseblood Accord is a group of sovereign player organizations united not under central authority, but in our agreement to promote by example the goals of positive gameplay and the mutual success of its members. It is our belief that positive gameplay improves everyone’s experience, and we are dedicated to providing a place in Pathfinder Online where players who seek such an experience can find it. Towards that end, we have come together to announce our intentions to the community, and to invite all who share these goals to join us.
The name, Roseblood, stems from the symbol of Milani, a minor Goddess who is well revered in the River Kingdoms. While we do not necessarily worship her, nor advocate her alignment, we venerate her stance against oppression; specifically when we make the metagaming step of equating negative game play to oppression. In homage, we choose to use her sigil as inspiration, a beautiful yet thorn laden rose, rising up from bloodstained cobblestones.
If your group is interested in joining the Roseblood Accord, simply state your intent below. If you have any questions, please send a private message on these forums to Lifedragn or Nihimon.
If you are an individual interested in joining the Roseblood Accord, please see below for a brief description of each accord member and how to contact them. For a complete and up-to-date list of current accord members, please see the Roseblood Accord list.
I'm starting a new thread to highlight the participation of the groups who have joined us since our initial announcement. We have all been overjoyed by the success of the Roseblood Accord and hope that others will continue to join us. If you or your group is interested in helping us promote positive gameplay, I encourage you to check out the groups below and see which one might be a good fit for you.
Taur-im-Duinath (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Haven of Elvenkind, one with nature and magic.
Hammerfall (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Threads of wood, gold and iron woven into one tapestry for all.
Forgeholm (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Strength of Steel, Glory of Gold!
Dagedai Alliance (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): By will alone, we set this trade in motion.
Magistry (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Tight-knit, settlement-minded community.
Keepers of the Circle (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Respecting life, protecting freedom, united against tyranny.
The Seventh Veil (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Creation. Destruction. Exploration. Contemplation. Magic. Nature. Mysteries.
The Empyrean Order (Land Rush / Recruitment Thread): Brighthaven :: Community betterment, protection of the weak, and promotion of justice.
I would also like to mention Koinonia Emporou (A Society of Merchants) and Deathwatch, who have chosen to make their home in Phaeros with The Seventh Veil.
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Some folks will no doubt wonder what "positive gameplay" means.
For me, personally, it's about being kind and helpful. For T7V, I think it's about helping other people achieve their own goals.
I think it would be great if each of the Roseblood Accord Members would add something about their own definition of "positive gaemplay".
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Having seen the discussions from the past thread and considered them, I think my own personal definition of 'positive gameplay' is more along the lines of the Don't Be a Jerk Accord. Good sportsmanship in both victory and defeat as well as having sensible roleplay reasons for the PvP conflicts as opposed to 'just for the lulz'. I feel that 'positive community' is more along the lines of what I envision of this accord. Conflict and strife can tear apart communities, but are often vital to games as a whole. To me, the Accord is an agreement to minimize the conflict and strife within the signatories and build positive relationships between the various participating organizations as an attempt to build a support network in the game for players to experience regions of the world map that is more toned-down on the conflict aspect of the larger game. I feel that part of positive gameplay is provide this option to players without mandating that the entire game community submit to a list of demands or expectations that arise from this Accord, but remains an opt-in experience.
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Positive gameplay for me includes the RKP, but does not stop there. Not being a jerk does not bridge the gap to actively promoting a strong community, it is simply the bare minimum to keep it from degrading.
Still, that is just me. Whatever our personal definitions are, the goal of creating a great community is what unites us into something beyond the RKP.
Here's the secret: Roseblood is actually headed by:
I'm out of jokes.
I'm still ticked they haven't added Princess Luna to the deity roster yet. Damn EE limitations.
The Roseblood Accord is a group of sovereign player organizations united not under central authority, but in our agreement to promote by example the goals of positive gameplay and the mutual success of its members. It is our belief that positive gameplay improves everyone’s experience, and we are dedicated to providing a place in Pathfinder Online where players who seek such an experience can find it. Towards that end, we have come together to announce our intentions to the community, and to invite all who share these goals to join us.
If individuals that have signed up to the Roseblood accord label other individuals and entire gaming groups as cheaters without any basis in fact, what will happen to them?
Members of Taur-im-Duinath, Hammerfall, Forgeholm, Dagedai Alliance, Magistry, Keepers of the Circle, The Seventh Veil and The Empyrean Order, what will you do about Nihimon and Decius who continually label all Pax members as cheaters using statements that have repeatedly been shown to either be incorrect or lies?
Toombstone has already labeled me once as a troll for asking a similar question, and I am sure others will for daring to raise this in a thread specifically about the Roseblood accord, but I think it worth asking this anyway.
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I thought you and Toombs already kissed and made up? That's what he blamed the wolf's breath on.
To answer you though: Nothing. Whether I agree or disagree with Nihimon doesn't matter. He has a concern and he brought it forward. People pissed off about the concern will label it as slander, but I don't think he sees it that way. I'm not going to sort through everyone's misunderstandings when the game starts and I'm not going to set a precedent of doing it now. I know that he doesn't speak for the entire Roseblood Accord. I know that he almost always has the community in mind. (Whether you think that's true on THIS issue or not, it is certainly true in general)
Even if I do disagree with Nihimon, I'm not going to punish him for it or revoke our entry into the Accord over it. We STILL intend to be good to our fellow players. If that pisses someone off, and if the affiliation causes people to go to war with us, that's the kind of blatant irrational that we'll just have to deal with.
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I personally feel that both groups have entirely different understandings of the situation and feel justified based on their understandings. That being said, I believe a lot of the way the situation has been approached has been more hostile than called for. I do not have much will to speak much further than that on the issue anymore. I am tired of the vitriol and frankly tired of the subject at hand. It is far too early on to be burning bridges.
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If individuals that have signed up to the Roseblood accord label other individuals and entire gaming groups as cheaters without any basis in fact, what will happen to them?
Members of Taur-im-Duinath, Hammerfall, Forgeholm, Dagedai Alliance, Magistry, Keepers of the Circle, The Seventh Veil and The Empyrean Order, what will you do about Nihimon and Decius who continually label all Pax members as cheaters using statements that have repeatedly been shown to either be incorrect or lies?
I think it's easy to mistake you as a troll because you seem to not accept that somebody can have a different opinion than you. Trolls usually do that, they ignore what people are saying and make inflammatory remarks.
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I agree with Athansor.
The absence of anything more than reminders to keep things civil or on-topic should go a long ways towards highlighting our feelings on censorship, as well as showing that we are not interested in controlling our fellow members. There are also a number of occasions where members have taken outright contradictory stances to each other on various topics, even high profile topics.
I also agree with Lifedragn on that particular subject. I care only to keep it limited to the proper venues at this point, which this thread is not.
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Welcome to new signatory ispq and The Iron Gauntlet!
I look forward to visiting your bastion of justice and commerce during EE =)
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To me the Roseblood Accord is about respecting the Golden Rule. Taking actions that a reasonable person might feel badly about (Hindsight or in the moment) should probably be avoided when dealing with others.
Everyone is a person, and NOBODY likes being being taken advantage of or exploited for the perpetrators gain or schadenfreude.
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It's a diverse group and (as I'd expect) not always in agreement. Errastil's Irregulars will certainly be holding to compatible intentions, but are not prepared to commit to any blanket organizations at this time. We'll be watching RA, and hoping that it has a positive effect on everybody's play.
Good luck.
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Positive gameplay for me includes the RKP, but does not stop there. Not being a jerk does not bridge the gap to actively promoting a strong community, it is simply the bare minimum to keep it from degrading.
That's actually not at all what the RKP is about; I consider myself something of an authority on it. Unlike any other accord or pact that has sprung up it can connect everyone if they desire the strong game community regardless of their in-game associations. Statements like the above reduce it to four words that have been invoked before, when actually there are more words and all of them are important.
Here's a link if anyone wants to review the River Kingdoms Pledge (RKP), and maybe you can tell me if you see anything in there possibly related to actively creating a positive gameplay atmosphere (hint: 85% of it).
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It's a diverse group and (as I'd expect) not always in agreement. Errastil's Irregulars will certainly be holding to compatible intentions, but are not prepared to commit to any blanket organizations at this time. We'll be watching RA, and hoping that it has a positive effect on everybody's play.
Good luck.
Thanks, Caldeathe, it's much appreciated.
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The Roseblood Accord is a group of sovereign player organizations united not under central authority, but in our agreement to promote by example the goals of positive gameplay and the mutual success of its members. It is our belief that positive gameplay improves everyone’s experience, and we are dedicated to providing a place in Pathfinder Online where players who seek such an experience can find it. Towards that end, we have come together to announce our intentions to the community, and to invite all who share these goals to join us.If individuals that have signed up to the Roseblood accord label other individuals and entire gaming groups as cheaters without any basis in fact, what will happen to them?
Members of Taur-im-Duinath, Hammerfall, Forgeholm, Dagedai Alliance, Magistry, Keepers of the Circle, The Seventh Veil and The Empyrean Order, what will you do about Nihimon and Decius who continually label all Pax members as cheaters using statements that have repeatedly been shown to either be incorrect or lies?
Toombstone has already labeled me once as a troll for asking a similar question, and I am sure others will for daring to raise this in a thread specifically about the Roseblood accord, but I think it worth asking this anyway.
Should we throw people that speak their mind into interment camps Monty? Is that your solution?
No: We are not tyrants, nor are we subservient to tyrants. We are the free people of the River Kingdoms.
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Damn straight. No other accord or coalition has specifically obligated it's signatories to never forget to be awesome while they play. That might sound silly at first, but when lived out the results are... really great for everyone. And then there's that other part about achieving the lived results of positive gameplay that even Grumpy "I will derail this agreement" McRobit liked.
As a citizen of Brighthaven my character will enact the RA in the game too. The pair go together really well.
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If this were true, sadly I have a few friends (all female of course) that would excitedly start playing PFO. But only if they could be ponies.I'd join up with that guild in a heartbeat!I don't want to disappoint, Khas, but they're not that kind of pony-girls.
lol, I didn't think they would be. I'm known as "the Pony Express" on the Pax site because of my devotion to a certain set of Saturday morning cartoon ponies. :)
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lol, I didn't think they would be. I'm known as "the Pony Express" on the Pax site because of my devotion to a certain set of Saturday morning cartoon ponies. :)If this were true, sadly I have a few friends (all female of course) that would excitedly start playing PFO. But only if they could be ponies.I'd join up with that guild in a heartbeat!I don't want to disappoint, Khas, but they're not that kind of pony-girls.
The other members of Deathwatch would kill me (well, all but two?), but I had recently considered drafting a new settlement called "Bronyville" - just for the lulz. Imagine the conflict that would happen:
- People would join it, just for the silliness (and maybe a few earnestly wanting to join it?)- Others would hate its existence
- War.
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I wonder if there are persons who don't like icecream... Can't remember ever meeting one.Lactose intolerant people who suffer severe stomach pains from eating it might not enjoy ice cream.
Although, personally: we may not enjoy the AFTER effects of eating ice cream... but we SURE love the actual eating of the ice cream!
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For all current and future signatories of the Roseblood Accord, please note that the Keeper's of the Circle have a private place in our Consulate for member discussions. It is only open to representatives designated by each member organization. If you require access and cannot find the sub-forum, please let me know.
If you are not already a designated Representative or official Ambassador to the Circle, you may apply for this membership and we'll ensure the proper access is granted, as this is a separate process from general envoys from non-member organizations.
I encourage representatives to Watch the forum (an option toward the bottom of the screen) so that you receive notification of any postings. This area will not be used for general chat and so should not clog up your communications with discussions about onion rings...
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I wonder if there are persons who don't like icecream... Can't remember ever meeting one.
And this is why it's so important I derail threads to tell you all about how mammals normally lose their ability to produce lactase and the mutations in northern Europe 7000 years ago that allowed 30% of current global adults to keep consuming milk easily so ice cream can even be a thing!
Next up: spider webs carry an electrostatic charge. Insect wings beating generate an electromagnetic field so they don't have to fly into the web, just near it, and will be magnetically sucked to their doom. That's right, spiders know f----g physics and we're all going to die.
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I had to google "brony". I had not the first clue, and I'm now wondering whether there are some mysteries not even Phaeros wants to explore.
I hadn't heard that term either. Now if it had been Bronty, I would have known immediately what they were referring to.
Dino Boy in the Lost Valley
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Hello all!
Blood Dragon here of Hammerfist Clan. We are currently conducting internal discussion of the merits of joining into this venture that is the Roseblood Accord. It appears there are a number of communities here with goals and outlooks in similar alignment with our very own, and we are certainly interested in reaching out to these communities to establish positive dialogue and possible future cooperative measures.
Well wishes to one and all.
Respectfully,
BD