What screams "paladin mount" to you more: Pegasus or Unicorn?


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Silver dragon was suggested some time ago... But really, a RED dragon, or perhaps more likely a blue one, naturally of excessive size, would be even more impressive.

A purple worm has that "SHAIIIIIII-HULUD!!!" vibe, and gives you a reason to have freaky blue eyes.

A unicow is a paragon of the animals living in the fields, grazing, living in herds, and providing food for communities. They are LG, and have a horn much like the unicorn's. An umber horse is a huge lumpy horse with umber scales, and a confusion gaze due to two big, extra eyes (which eyes are its real ones? WHICH ONES??? AAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!).


Hmm, out of the two, someone mentioned the Alicorn...

I'm going to choose the flying unicorn...


Intelligent heavy warhorse with Ranger levels.

or

Pikachu.


It's been said before, but here's what I'm thinking.

Q: Is your character capable of making "We will rock you!" jokes from personal experience?

Y: Pegasus

N: Unicorn

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First off, most of my palidans go the rout of weapon bond as opposed to the divine bond mount however when I do pick a mount, I want one that flies, it's just how I build my characters, I want my characters to be able to have a use when fighting every sigle opponent,
For my casters that means having a decent str and an enchanted sword, some alchemical weapons and a revolver for good measure if one can be found
For my ranged martials that means having a melee backup, some aoe alchemy items, and a ranged weapon capable of piercing a fickle winds spell (example, halflignsling stones, and siege weapons)
For my melee builds that means movement abilities, primarially flight (it also means having a backup ranged weapon as my next priority, bonus points is having a way of getting spelcasting, weather it be from gestalt, a familiar/companion or leadership, spelcasting helps)
Now if I could manage get my hands on a half celestial (and thus flying) mount that tips the scales twords the unicorn as it's a flying, spelcasting magical mount that comes with it's own built in weaponry,
The thing is, I don't play as female characters, I don't think I could role play as one properly, and even if I did well I'd always be second guessing myself which sucks the fun out of play, so the unicorn probably doesn't like me
Which brings me to my next point, intelligent creatures as mounts have always struck me as weird, I mean, they are stated to have their own thoughts and motiviations, ones that may be different than your own, you can get around this with familiars, as they are bound to your soul, companions, as you have a magical connection, and/or traine them to the point where they aren't mindless anymore, summons, as they have to obey you, thralls, because they basically worship you, and cohorts as they are kinda a second PC,
But a mount like a unicorn, they have their own buisness going on
So yeah, something to consider


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Okay, so it turns out Piers Anthony coined/popularized the "alicorn = winged unicorn" term in 1984, with the release of Bearing an Hourglass.

That etymology was bugging me.


Tacticslion wrote:

Oh, hey! I have this really awkward/sweet/disturbing story to share!

** spoiler omitted **...

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Mikaze wrote:
Be it a dedicated mount or a special occasion.

Admit it! This is REALLY a "which pony is best pony" thread! Well I'm not falling for it!!!!


Lord Foul II wrote:


Which brings me to my next point, intelligent creatures as mounts have always struck me as weird, I mean, they are stated to have their own thoughts and motiviations, ones that may be different than your own, you can get around this with familiars, as they are bound to your soul, companions, as you have a magical connection, and/or traine them to the point where they aren't mindless anymore, summons, as they have to obey you, thralls, because they basically worship you, and cohorts as they are kinda a second PC,
But a mount like a unicorn, they have their own buisness going on
So yeah, something to consider

Well a paladin's mount could be seen as a servitor of whatever divine power the paladin get's his abilities from. In which case they aren't that much different that a summon with a long term lease. Now a Cavalier on the other hand may have a more difficult time acquiring an intelligent creature as a companion.


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All of this discussion on Unicorns and their preferred companions some how made me remember The Last Battle by CS Lewis. That had a unicorn character that served as a companion to the last king of Narnia. Had all the earmarks of the classic myth, graceful, quiet etc etc, and he ended up with the highest kill count of any of the hero in the book if I remember correctly... it has been about 15 years since I read it.


Dire Boar. Never leave the Dwarf Hold without it.


Paladin riding a Megaraptor... just sayin'. Alternatively, a Triceratops or a TRex.


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Chimera with a gold dragon head. :D

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atheral wrote:
Well a paladin's mount could be seen as a servitor of whatever divine power the paladin get's his abilities from. In which case they aren't that much different that a summon with a long term lease. Now a Cavalier on the other hand may have a more difficult time acquiring an intelligent creature as a companion.

The last time I played a cavalier the party was discussing tactics related to mounted combat and what options I would have if anything happened to my character's warhorse. As there was a druid in the party, I made the offhand suggestion that if it was absolutely necessary, she could wildshape into a horse and my character could ride her into battle.

Despite the fact that I was speaking PURELY IN TACTICAL TERMS, I never heard the end of it for the rest of the campaign.


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"I'll ride you like a horse, you party druid."


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I daresay a unicorn's powers complement a paladin's more.

But ... pegasi can fly.

In certain games, a unicorn mount would advertise a paladin's purity, righteousness, even virginity.

On the other hand, a pegasus can fly.

Unicorns are intelligent and the bond with a paladin can be based more on friendship and less a master-servant relationship.

Still ... flying is freakin' cool.

I'd go with unicorn, but ...

... I wouldn't mind flying, either.

(But if I were goin' for flight, I'd probably choose a dragon or a griffin.)


Vod Canockers wrote:

Intelligent heavy warhorse with Ranger levels.

or

Pikachu.

If we're going to be offering pokemon, then we should choose one that would actually work.

I nominate Dodrio


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in before flying bear cavalry


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Lamontius wrote:
in before flying bear cavalry

Sorry, I already posted the Flare Bears.

...can I change my vote to sharknado?


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are flare bears just hirsute men that work at tchotchkes


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Those would be Flair Bears.

When the Flare Bears dive into town on their Cloud Tanks and Rainbow Rumblers you'll be sad you said anything bad to anyone.


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I thought that the Flair Bear was Arn Anderson

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
And what the heck's a unicow...

From context, I'd guess it's either a cow that is currently not part of a herd, or possibly a cow with only one wheel.


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Lincoln Hills wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
And what the heck's a unicow...
From context, I'd guess it's either a cow that is currently not part of a herd, or possibly a cow with only one wheel.

I thought it was a lot like a normal cow, but with a horn and long beautiful mane. So a cow but a lot prettier... also a misnomer, having 3 horns and all...


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*swoosh* MMMMOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo

Cowasus™

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When you see a majestic herd of cowasi, take cover. Trust me on this. You don't want to be underneath when they pass overhead.


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Lincoln Hills wrote:
When you see a majestic herd of cowasi, take cover. Trust me on this. You don't want to be underneath when they pass overhead.

And don't light a match.


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Sissyl wrote:

Silver dragon was suggested some time ago... But really, a RED dragon, or perhaps more likely a blue one, naturally of excessive size, would be even more impressive.

A purple worm has that "SHAIIIIIII-HULUD!!!" vibe, and gives you a reason to have freaky blue eyes.

A unicow is a paragon of the animals living in the fields, grazing, living in herds, and providing food for communities. They are LG, and have a horn much like the unicorn's. An umber horse is a huge lumpy horse with umber scales, and a confusion gaze due to two big, extra eyes (which eyes are its real ones? WHICH ONES??? AAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!).

You must run some fun games, Sis.


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Mikaze...stay tuned to little red goblin games, we working on something extremely relevant to your question.

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MrSin wrote:
I thought it was a lot like a normal cow, but with a horn and long beautiful mane. So a cow but a lot prettier... also a misnomer, having 3 horns and all...

No, you're thinking of a triceracow. Common mistake, though.


Wrong John Silver wrote:

Okay, so it turns out Piers Anthony coined/popularized the "alicorn = winged unicorn" term in 1984, with the release of Bearing an Hourglass.

That etymology was bugging me.

I'm certain someone else came up with it first, as Anthony is not the most original of fellows. Though the term alicorn originally meant the substance making up the horn of a unicorn.

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Sissyl wrote:
Pegasus. Flight, lances, Bellerophon, and no sodding forest hippie stuff. That said, a half-celestial spider eater, or giant wasp, or dire elephant, or woolly rhinoceros, is pretty badass. Or why not the Tarrasque? Other less well known possibilities are unicow, umber horse, or a redeemed beholder.

More importantly it's not a commitment to chastity. You do remember what ultimately happened to Bellepheron, dont' you?.


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kyrt-ryder wrote:
I think I see the reason for the whole Unicorn-women thing

Why does his horn look like a penis?

Why am I still watching this?

G#!*$!mit.

Also, pegasus. idk, something majestic about a horse with angel wings. I blame Fire Emblem for that.


Pegasus.


Odraude wrote:
kyrt-ryder wrote:
I think I see the reason for the whole Unicorn-women thing
Why does his horn look like a penis?

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Pegasus with barbarian levels. Now we're cooking!


Alex Smith 908 wrote:
Wrong John Silver wrote:

Okay, so it turns out Piers Anthony coined/popularized the "alicorn = winged unicorn" term in 1984, with the release of Bearing an Hourglass.

That etymology was bugging me.

I'm certain someone else came up with it first, as Anthony is not the most original of fellows. Though the term alicorn originally meant the substance making up the horn of a unicorn.

The report I saw did indicate that he saw some knick-knack of a flying unicorn called an "alicorn" and he ran with that, but I haven't been able to find anything prior to that. So, yes, someone else told him that, but that person may very well have been the first.

I do know that My Little Pony back then didn't call them alicorns.


Battle mule or war donkey.


Pegasus for male, Unicorn for female.


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Icyshadow wrote:
Pegasus for male, Unicorn for female.

[Waits for hopefully-not-inevitable accusations of chauvinism.]


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Eryx_UK wrote:
Pegasus.

*looks at avatar*

BROTHER!


Mikaze wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Oh, hey! I have this really awkward/sweet/disturbing story to share!

** spoiler omitted **...

deer-in-the-headlights-expresssion

I honestly am not entirely sure how to process that one right now. Not sure if heartwarmed or weirded out.

besides feeling a hell of a lot better about the subtext going on in our WotR game

Honestly, I was both at the same time. I seemed to be the only person (well, not the only person, but the only person present at either actual game) that noticed that it could have been... you know... more prudent not to describe things... in a Barnes & Noble cafe... in public.


what about fire emblem's entirely female order of Pegasus Riding Cavaliers whom could upgrade into Alicorn Riding Cavaliers and gain the ability to heal?


Fire Emblem is probably why I don't really see paladins riding unicorns. I always imagine rangers on unicorns.... for some unknown reason.


Nah, Ranger are always riding brown horses or black wolves and are accompanied by a bird of prey of some kind (hopefully, one of these. Just not the red & white one.), while Paladins ride white horses or pegasi and Antipaladins ride nightmares.


Odraude wrote:
Fire Emblem is probably why I don't really see paladins riding unicorns. I always imagine rangers on unicorns.... for some unknown reason.

Fire Emblem paladins are basically nothing like Pathfinder Paladins, the closest equivalent i can think of from FE is the Alicorn Knight, an Upgrade of the Pegasus Knight that suffers from all the drawbacks of a Pegasus Knight, with the exception that have more mobility and can use cleric staves. unlike most Staff users, an Alicorn Knight could actually use their staves upon themselves. for increased effect. the process of improving an Alicorn Knight into a Nasty Melee Combatant was a matter of boosting her Staff Skill and kitting her out with amazing buffing Staves. you Wanted an Evasion Boosting Staff, a Strength Boosting Staff, and a Critical Boosting Staff, all of which required a Staff Skill of C. you also also wanted a minimum Lance Rank of C and a Killer Lance, or if you didn't have a Killer Lance, a Steel Lance Also Helped in a Pinch.


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Mechagamera wrote:
Battle mule or war donkey.

Because mules are Bad Ass, amirite? (See what I did there?)

Seriously though, some paladins are humble. Not all, but some. And also mules are humble but also awesome.


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Corvino wrote:
Mechagamera wrote:
Battle mule or war donkey.

Because mules are Bad Ass, amirite? (See what I did there?)

Seriously though, some paladins are humble. Not all, but some. And also mules are humble but also awesome.

Many would say that most paladins are war donkeys.


Lincoln Hills wrote:
MrSin wrote:
I thought it was a lot like a normal cow, but with a horn and long beautiful mane. So a cow but a lot prettier... also a misnomer, having 3 horns and all...
No, you're thinking of a triceracow. Common mistake, though.

Triceracow? Ick, that doesn't sound half as beautiful as a unicow. Sounds like something shaggy and unkempt.

Icyshadow wrote:
Pegasus for male, Unicorn for female.

I would think that unicorns would be male seeing as they have the... you know what I best not go into detail.

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