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Hey I just got through looking through a heated discussion on 3PP hate or like.
Personally I have taken a tour through the 3PP stuff and have not seen anything that thrilled me. Granted it was not an indepth tour, That being said I am open to further explorations on the topic.
So What 3PP Race, Class or setting or anything really do you like?
I'm putting down the Dreamscarred Press soulknife. I've wanted to play one, and now I can without feeling like I'm shooting myself in the foot.
There are lots of others, too ...
White Necromancer Kobalt Press
but the mag is dead... saddest face ever
I like a lot of Tripod Machine's classes. They're good, and they feel like they could be included in an Advanced Player's Guide, except. . . they're 3PP. Super Genius's stuff is good, too, and Spellless Ranger from Kobold Press.
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I love the Occultist by Radiance House. I'm also a fan of Sublime Transmuter and the Sacred Necromancer by Zombie Sky Press, though I haven't had the chance to try them yet. Then there's always Dreamscarred Press Psionics.
What product has the White Necromancer? I can't find it. . .
White necromancer was in Kobold Quarterly, can't remember what issue. I'm fairly sure Marc Radle is working on a new updated version for Kobold Press' New Paths Line - he also did the Expanded Spell-less ranger and the Expanded Battle Scion.
[EDIT - -google says KQ 19]
What product has the White Necromancer? I can't find it. . .
http://paizo.com/products/btpy8p2g?Kobold-Quarterly-19
Link for you...
Setting is Midgard from Kobold Press.
Class is Psychic Warrior from Dreamscarred Press.
The Armiger.Armoured monk what or where is the armiger?
It's from Super Genius Games
here
Armiger
I like the stuff SGG puts out too. My favorite is The Godling
and has a few supplements
Godling Ascendant
I can not speak for the last two, I do not have them, but the with the first three I have been having a blast playing a godling of knowledge skill monkey.
I can easily see how one could make Hercules, Thor, or Loki like characters using the class. It also is quite open in the design by allowing the class to pick up abilities of other classes as they are expanded upon. New domains, mysteries, feats, rouge skills balanced by your type of godling. I think its a good class. It has a unique mechanic in that you gain access to some pretty awesome powers that you must spend your divine power on to gain. The powers require more and more divine power to get the stronger abilities or you can spread out with lots of little powers and have variety of talents.
(i.e. one lets you age slower)
I have heard of and wish to try more of their stuff, check them out before you decide to give up on third party. There is lots of cool stuff going on out there outside of the core.
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As I stated before, I have not given up on 3PP. I just have not seen anything that thrilled me upon a passing glance.
Looks this endzeitgeist character has some decent takes on the various classes.
Armiger looks like a good tank, is there much difference between that class and the stalwart defender?
Definetly want to investigate the Mystic godling as i dig spellcasters
The Super genius games Talented Monk is my single favorite 3rd party product. Though that is a close second to the SGG Archetype products.
My next player character is going to be a talented Monk mixed with the talented rogue, and the archetype 'Alchemical Archer'. I am special kinds of excited about it.
I have a friend of mine who is in the process of building a monk, so far he has 3 different builds.
I will send him the link for the talented monk to see if I can really bend his noodle
I hope he enjoys it.
With the caveat that my experience is limited to basically Jon Brazer Enterprises, Frog God Games, Alluria Publishing, and Open Design/Kobold Press:
Class: Don't have much experience with as I tend to gravitate towards 3pp campaign settings/races/monsters. I do like the idea of White Necromancers though, something we will never see from Paizo itself. I will probably purchase Ultimate Psionics as a hardcover when that is finished.
Setting: Midgard...it's a great fully-fleshed out complex setting with a much better take on dwarves and kobolds than Golarion. If you like Norse or Eastern European themes you can't really go wrong with this setting. Kaidan looks interesting but haven't looked at it yet
Race: I admit I am partial to the Squawks from Alluria Publishing...but militant humanoid penguins are not for everyone...
The Justicar, a spell-less version of the Inquisitor from Super Genius Games. By far my favorite 3PP class.
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I'm (eagerly) awaiting the Andronia setting from Hydra Games. There was a Kickstarter campaign for it earlier this year, and it should be released shortly.
As for classes, I'm a sucker for the wilder by DSP, but I would love to eventually play a Malefactor from TPK Games.
The Time Thief by Super Genius Games
2 products I'm looking forward to seeing:
Warlords of the Apocalypse
Bite Me
Race: either the gearforged or the trollkin
Class: the expanded shaman, and the expanded white necromancer (coming soon). Now I want to check out the justicar from SGG, though!
Setting: Midgard
All of these are Kobold Press, and I do work on some things there (proofing, development, and now editing), so I've grown pretty familiar with the material. There are a lot of great 3PP products out there, though. I'm still a huge fan of the Incantations material from Zombie Sky Press, for one. Raging Swan's adventures, specifically the room-by-room descriptions and the way they're presented, are some of my favorites, as well. Excellent stuff!
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Hey all - great thread!
Thanks so much for all the nice words about some of the classes I've written!!!
Since folks have asked, here are links to the classes mentioned:
New Paths #1: The Expanded Spell-less Ranger
New Paths #2: The Expanded Shaman
New Paths #4: The Expanded Battle Scion
Oh, as mentioned above, New Paths 7: The Expanded White Necromancer is complete and ready to release into the world, complete with new feats, new spells and 2 archetypes which I am really excited about ... look for it very soon (as in, early next month I would think :)
Class: the expanded shaman, and the expanded white necromancer (coming soon). Now I want to check out the justicar from SGG, though!
It's in "Advanced Options - Inquisitor's Judgements".
Hey all - great thread!
Thanks so much for all the nice words about some of the classes I've written!!!
Since folks have asked, here are links to the classes mentioned:
New Paths #1: The Expanded Spell-less Ranger
New Paths #2: The Expanded Shaman
New Paths #4: The Expanded Battle Scion
Oh, as mentioned above, New Paths 7: The Expanded White Necromancer is complete and ready to release into the world, complete with new feats, new spells and 2 archetypes which I am really excited about ... look for it very soon (as in, early next month I would think :)
I love everyone of these classes.
I want to add Soulknife to my list of favorite classes. With the right feats and player attitude it makes a pretty effective tank that is also very versatile skill wise.
Okay, I got KQ 19 and I got to say, I like the White Necromancer class! I'm definately looking forward to this coming out as a New Path.
Tripod Machine also has a take on the Monk that boosts it to a d10 ( and gives it a lot of other things ). You might want to take a look at their stuff.
Upon an initial lookthrough, those look like pretty cool character concepts.
I am favoring the spell-less ranger as this fits with my idea of a ranger as opposed to a fighter/druid.
You might also want to take a look at the Hunter and the Scout from A Fistful of Denarii ( Tripod Machine ) as they fit similar, but not identical, niches.
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I love everyone of these classes.Hey all - great thread!
Thanks so much for all the nice words about some of the classes I've written!!!
Since folks have asked, here are links to the classes mentioned:
New Paths #1: The Expanded Spell-less Ranger
New Paths #2: The Expanded Shaman
New Paths #4: The Expanded Battle Scion
Oh, as mentioned above, New Paths 7: The Expanded White Necromancer is complete and ready to release into the world, complete with new feats, new spells and 2 archetypes which I am really excited about ... look for it very soon (as in, early next month I would think :)
Awesome - thank you!!!
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Upon an initial lookthrough, those look like pretty cool character concepts.
I am favoring the spell-less ranger as this fits with my idea of a ranger as opposed to a fighter/druid.
Awesome! Give the class a try and, if you are so inclined, feel free to post a review in the appropriate product forum :)
Midnight from Fantasy Flight Games.
Hands down the darkest and richest campaign setting I've ever seen.
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Okay, I got KQ 19 and I got to say, I like the White Necromancer class! I'm definately looking forward to this coming out as a New Path.
Just a heads up that the The White Necromancer will be released very soon:)
You can learn a bit more here:
The Expanded White Necromancer Design Blog
I am partial to the Frog God Games world. It's sparse on information at the moment, but between all their modules, and their dungeon/hex crawls, you have enough information to enjoy yourself.
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Okay, I got KQ 19 and I got to say, I like the White Necromancer class! I'm definately looking forward to this coming out as a New Path.Just a heads up that the The White Necromancer will be released very soon:)
You can learn a bit more here:
The Expanded White Necromancer Design Blog
Hey everyone - The Expanded White Necromancer is now out! Please check it out by clicking link below :) Really anxious to hear what folks think!
The Expanded White Necromancer
Thanks!
I loved the Psionic system in 3.5, and Dreamscarred Press did an amazing job of fixing the broken and making it work with Pathfinder. I love all the classes, in those books and the Elans are my favorite race.
My only regret is that I'll never be able to play Psionics in PFS.