Brewer's Guide to the Jargonaut (Words of Power Oracle)


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I've been working on a new guide for another Words of Power class - and is probably the most under-appreciated class in that system.

The Guide: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g196mx15afictws/Jargonaut.pdf

Thoughts, suggestions, and corrections would be most appreciated.

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Just finished reading the guide, I have absolutely no interest in playing the words of power type character but it was a great read.

However, as always you have presented a well thought out guide. IMO it will be tough to top the blaster wizard guide.

Love, Love ,Love it till my daddy takes the t-bird away.


I really liked the guide, but right now i'm gamemastering. But maybe I could make a villain jargonaut to throw him against my party XD


Undeath is awesome, Servitor is awesome. I understand that. I'm not quite getting what makes the combination of those words with the oracle so amazing.

-Clerics get Undeath (and quicker, too)
-Bards, clerics, druids, rangers, sorcerers, wizards and witches get Servitor

What exactly is it about the Oracle that gives it such great synergy with these words?


GM Arkwright wrote:

Undeath is awesome, Servitor is awesome. I understand that. I'm not quite getting what makes the combination of those words with the oracle so amazing.

-Clerics get Undeath (and quicker, too)
-Bards, clerics, druids, rangers, sorcerers, wizards and witches get Servitor

What exactly is it about the Oracle that gives it such great synergy with these words?

-The Servitor line of spells are all standard actions. The summon monster spells are all 1 round action. Is very different to summon a monster then move then your monster attacks than to be in a place one round suffering damage from enemies (and if you fail your concentration chack say goodbye to your spell).

-Undeath vs Animate dead. Undeath is one level lower spell AND you don't have to pay 25 gp per HD for undead raised. Undeath is a "use your skeleton, then kill it" strategy, and Animate dead is "Oh God i've spend 275 gp in that young red dragon skeleton and I have to kill him because I can't go to the good aligned city with it"


Yes, like I said- Servitor is awesome, Undeath is awesome. I understand that completely.

I just don't understand why the INTERSECTION of those words with the Oracle is so good. Why not a cleric?


Consider the Haunted Curse combined with a weapons cord and decent bonus spells.

A few quick things:
Why no mention of Half Elf, Paragon Surge? Why no mention of Blessing of Fervor, or Grace? Are these replaced by picking ‎Servitor?

Lastly.... It appears that Servitor is from ‎Variant Magic Rules, not published by Piazo. Wish I had known before I got excited about this. It's definately not PFS and probably won't be allowed in an adventure path.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

All that said, it's an ineresting guide. I'll definately be reading this again when I have more time.


Havoq, Servitor is a Word of Power, from variant magic rules which ARE published by Paizo. Definitely not allowed by PFS.


Got it and thank you. Love reading KBrewer's guides. I always learn something.


GM Arkwright wrote:

Undeath is awesome, Servitor is awesome. I understand that. I'm not quite getting what makes the combination of those words with the oracle so amazing.

-Clerics get Undeath (and quicker, too)
-Bards, clerics, druids, rangers, sorcerers, wizards and witches get Servitor

What exactly is it about the Oracle that gives it such great synergy with these words?

What makes it especially nice is that they both synergize extremely well with a martial character with a reach weapon. Yeah, other classes get the same spells. Which of them makes a better martial than an oracle?

I feel that Battle Oracles are better at fighting than their Cleric equivalents. My opinion is that Oracles' biggest drawback is the spontaneous casting of only a few known spells. With Words of Power, that's not a drawback, because there aren't that many words worth knowing anyway. And unlike a Cleric, you won't have to "prepare" your Undeaths and Servitors - you just cast them spontaneously as you need them.

Basically, this guide is an extension of "Brewer's Guide to the Reach Cleric". With Words of Power thrown in, the Oracle becomes the better class to pull it off with.


That makes much more sense to me, thanks, I might give such an oracle a try. Maybe I didn't read your guide in-depth enough but I couldn't find anything like what you've just said, thus my confusion. Could I suggest you add it in, if you haven't already and I'm blind as a bat?


Nice guide, helped me figure out how to make a WoP Oracle relevant what with that tiny effect list.


What happened to the file?


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DMCA'd. Probably dropped too much from the book into the file and got whacked.


I don't think Hachette has anything to do with Paizo. And there's nothing in the text that quotes the rulebooks at all.

If there was a legitimate DMCA complaint, it would have had to do with the images. Although I'm betting on it being an illegitimate DMCA complaint; they're not exactly uncommon.

I've got a copy for anyone who wants it.

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Sadly DMCA is such an iron fist that fair use is difficult to apply. It's pretty obvious that using images in a non-profit, unpublished game guide is fair use.

If your're gonna use copyrighted images, it's probably best to stick to ones Paizo owns. They're not going to sic their lawyer ninjas for putting images of their game in a guide for their own game.


I don't have the legal knowledge to know what exactly is or is not fair use, but I do know that the megacorps that use DMCA notices like Arnold with a minigun don't seem to suffer any consequences of abusing the DMCA with false claims.


El Patalán wrote:
GM Arkwright wrote:

Undeath is awesome, Servitor is awesome. I understand that. I'm not quite getting what makes the combination of those words with the oracle so amazing.

-Clerics get Undeath (and quicker, too)
-Bards, clerics, druids, rangers, sorcerers, wizards and witches get Servitor

What exactly is it about the Oracle that gives it such great synergy with these words?

-The Servitor line of spells are all standard actions. The summon monster spells are all 1 round action. Is very different to summon a monster then move then your monster attacks than to be in a place one round suffering damage from enemies (and if you fail your concentration chack say goodbye to your spell).

-Undeath vs Animate dead. Undeath is one level lower spell AND you don't have to pay 25 gp per HD for undead raised. Undeath is a "use your skeleton, then kill it" strategy, and Animate dead is "Oh God i've spend 275 gp in that young red dragon skeleton and I have to kill him because I can't go to the good aligned city with it"

Take Fast Zombie Red Dragon (WHY in the name of all that's unholy would you make a skeleton of one?), park safely outside the city limits or inside extradimensional storage, done.

if ya gotta make skeletons, go with bloody skeletons, since they cant really die easily.


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Take Fast Zombie Red Dragon (WHY in the name of all that's unholy would you make a skeleton of one?)

The Undeath word doesn't say that it can make fast zombies or bloody skeletons. You're relying on a favorable ruling from your GM to do so.


Did the file disappear? I can't seem to see it.


Hachette (one of the five biggest publishing houses) filed a DMCA takedown request with Dropbox. It's probably a b@!%#+%& request; big publishers abuse the system all the time and never suffer any consequences. The only thing the guide contains that anyone else could possibly have copyright on would be the art, and even assuming that a book publisher has ownership of any of the images, using them in something like this is most likely well within fair use.

KBrewer hasn't posted in a couple weeks; possibly he doesn't even know that his guides are getting knocked off Dropbox. I rehosted his Blockbuster Wizard guide for the time being, but I'm not sure I want to put his Jargonaut on one of my cloud accounts in case Hachette gets my account in trouble too. I will email it to anyone who wants it though, just PM me an email address.


Dasrak wrote:
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Take Fast Zombie Red Dragon (WHY in the name of all that's unholy would you make a skeleton of one?)
The Undeath word doesn't say that it can make fast zombies or bloody skeletons. You're relying on a favorable ruling from your GM to do so.

his skeleton example was aimed at animate dead, not the wordspell. "i just spent 275g" and all that. i'm just saying if he's making base skeletons with animate dead and not trying to protect his investment (desecrate isnt that expensive, the templates are great), he's just wasting money--hence my extradimensional storage thing, or keeping it outside the city you cant take it into--you can simply order it to stand at X location until you return, since simple orders are cool, iirc.

i admit i sounded kinda like i was looking down my nose at him, and i apologize.


ZanThrax wrote:

KBrewer hasn't posted in a couple weeks; possibly he doesn't even know that his guides are getting knocked off Dropbox. I rehosted his Blockbuster Wizard guide for the time being, but I'm not sure I want to put his Jargonaut on one of my cloud accounts in case Hachette gets my account in trouble too. I will email it to anyone who wants it though, just PM me an email address.

PM incoming.


PM incoming.


I don't think KBrewer's coming back anytime soon. Someone emailed me a copy of the Jargonaut guide with the images removed, so I've put that up on SkyDrive for anyone who wants it. Jargonaut no images


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First, thank you ZanThrax for saving this guide, and thank you KBrewer for making it.

Second, though the guide focuses on making a martial WoP oracle, it's possible to play an effective caster WoP oracle thanks to the Spirit Guide archetype. You get a Spirit from the shaman class which you can reselect every day, and the best one for a WoP oracle is the Lore spirit with the Arcane Enlightenment hex. All you need are a high charisma and a moderate intelligence score, and you will be able to grab whatever spells you like from the wizard/sorcerer spell list and cast them spontaneously. You also add the spells of the spirit to your spells known, on top of your mystery bonus spells.

With the Juju mystery and Spirit Vessels revelation, you can have 6 HD of undead per caster level, and the undead you raise will match your alignment. The game designers say that non-evil undead were an oversight and not intended, but they never put that in an official faq.

Eventually, you can pick the Life spirit instead for Channel Energy. If you worship a god of death or graves, you can pick up Fateful Channel, which gives your entire party a free reroll. Plus healing. Plus Variant Channeling, of which there are some very nice ones. Justice/Law is fantastic if your party is lawful, Protection and Luck are always good, and Undeath has no downsides whatsoever. Anubis, Osiris, and Nepthys are good choices for deities. The downside to using Life spirit over Lore spirit is that you will no longer have Arcane Enlightenment.

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