Hi all,
I am interested in running an 2nd Edition AD&D game set in a (region of a) world where the "goblinoid" races are dominant. As such, characters would be of the following races (from the Complete Book of Humanoids): orc, half-orc, goblin, hobgoblin, bugbear, kobold (the pre-3e, dog-like kind!), ogre, and half-ogre (also orog, using the same stats).
As none of these races are capable of becoming, say, mages, the class availability for these races will be expanded (all classes will be available, even if each race still has racial restrictions).
So, is anyone interested in playing in such a game? Also, let me know if you would like further information.
What has come before:
Long ago, the orcish and goblinoid Peoples lived alongside the elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, and humans. But the gods of these Others could not tolerate such coexistence, and bade their children drive the orcs and goblins from their green lands into the cold wastes at the edge of the world. The Peoples fought back, but whereas the Others were united, the People were divided by their petty rivalries and were defeated. The gods of the Peoples were shamed and turned their backs, and for many ages, the Peoples suffered and died while the Others grew powerful and decadent. But the gods had not completely abandoned their children. Unto their misery came Gothron, warchieftainess of the Stormfist orcs. Under her banner, her tribe conquered and united many of the Peoples in a great empire, and the gods were satisfied. For upon her conquest, they led the Peoples to great treasure hidden deep under the wastes, and Gothron's empire grew as rich and as powerful as any of those of the Others. But even with all her strength, Gothron could not live forever, and died in childbirth. Her empire was thrown into chaos as the Peoples squabbled to take the reins. Even today, five years after her death, the struggle continues, and the Others see an opportunity to once again steal the Peoples' land now that they have heard of its wealth. You are children of this chaos, and your actions may shape the future of Gothron's empire...or doom it to a forgotten memory.
Well, you're in luck! For Gold & Glory is a free retro-clone of AD&D 2e, and it's freely available. That should cover you for rules, anyway. If I can get enough other players and you're still interested, I'll let you know what the rules for whatever race you want to play are, and that should be enough to cover you.
Thanks for the response, divineshadow!
Hmmm Hobgoblin or Orc Cleric?or War Mage?
Hmmm Hobgoblin or Orc Cleric?or War Mage?
Sure, either one of those would be fine, Lady Zaldane.
Orcish gods (thus far): Korthag, Tyrant of the World; Nothdar, Keeper of Secrets.
Goblinoid gods (thus far): Vaaka, the Ur-Mother
Religion is a complicated matter for the People (just as in real life). The People worship many gods, and each tribe worships the gods differently. In the terms of this game, this means that there's probably a god out there that fits your character concept; we can work together to hammer out the details if you wish to play a cleric.
If i do Cleric, I would do an Amazon Cleric of an Athena/Artemis/Demeter like goddess!
I will have to pull out Humanoid hadbook when I get home and refresh on 2nd edition and come up with an idea.
I'll post a few goddesses for you to look at when I get home to my notes, Lady Zaldane.
Welcome, Ashe! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
Okay, so I got caught up in getting ready for vacation last night, so I didn't post the promised goddesses last night like I said I would. But I've got one ready for you. And it's even in Legends & Lore/Monster Mythology style!
Vakka, the Ur-Mother
Vakka is a goddess of fertility and a protector of children and mothers. While other goblinoid deities bicker over their domains and their races, Vakka's gift of fecundity is valued by all, and she is the only deity widely revered by all of the goblin races of the People. Through her gifts, she provides the goblin races with their greatest strength—that of numbers. While other gods battle for power and advantage amongst themselves, Vakka does not, for she knows that her place in the hearts of the People is already secure.
Vakka is one of the People's most ancient deities, and has seen many other gods and goddesses rise and fall. As such, she is not a particularly jealous goddess, and does not care if her people worship others as long as she is also given her due. She does not take kindly to those who scoff at her gifts, nor to those who claim that she is not as worthy of reverence as more martial gods.
Statistics: AL ne; WAL any (goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears); AoC fertility, protection, healing; SY stylized fetus.
Vakka's Avatar (Cleric 18, Mage 8)
Vakka's avatar appears as a radiant, beautiful young maiden of any goblinoid race. She may choose to take the form of whichever race she feels is appropriate for a given situation. Regardless of race, her avatar is always hugely pregnant. Unless in the most unusual circumstances, Vakka eschews armor and weaponry and favors simple clothing, as her beauty needs no embellishment.Str 15 Dex 17 Con 20
Int 17 Wis 18 Cha 22
MV 18 SZ M or L MR 40%
AC 0 HD 18 HP 180
#AT 1 THACO 3 DMG 3d4 (fists)Special Attacks/Defenses: Vakka's avatar is immune to all natural and magical diseases. She may cast charm monster 1/turn. Even when not using weapons, Vakka's attacks are made as the equivalent of wielding a +4 weapon.
Duties of the Priesthood
Vakka's priests and priestesses preside over the fertility rituals that ensure the expansion of their tribes and peoples. These rituals differ from tribe to tribe, but often include elements of debauched revelry and bloody sacrifice. In addition to the fertility of the tribe, they are also responsible for the fertility of the land, and conduct ceremonies to hasten the arrival of spring on the longest night of the year. Finally, Vakka's clergy often serve as midwives and guide their followers through the ordeals of pregnancy and childbirth.Requirements: AB standard; AL any; WP standard; AR standard; SP all, charm, guardian, healing, necromantic*, plant*, protection, sun*, weather*; TU command.
Now, it's been a while since I studied Greek mythology, but Demeter, Athena, and Artemis are quite different from each other. I don't think I have any idea for a goddess that'd combine aspects of them all. Vaaka, above, probably touches most upon Demeter, although her focus is more on fertility of people more than fertility of the land. If you have suggestions as to what aspects of Demeter, Athena, and/or Artemis you'd like to see, I'd have a better idea of what you're looking for.
I like it, but I need to find the specialty priest stuff for her
I'll see what I can come up with this weekend for specialty priests of Vaaka. But in the meantime, happy 4th of July, all.
I will peruse my tomes as well
Interested. Digging out the needed books from my attic may take a bit. Skills and powers or just straight second. And may I use complete psionics or no?
Just the straight 2e core books and some of the races from the Complete Book of Humanoids, as above. Welcome, Havocprince!
3d6 down the line?
Hey Gothron what book is that in again, Its not in my copy of the Monstrous Mythology
I was thinking 3d6 in order, Havocprince. I think I'll have you roll five sets and take your preference.
Vakka (yes, I spelled her name wrong previously), isn't from an official source, Zaldane, I wrote her up for this game. I can write up more if she doesn't fit your character. I've got a few in mind, and if you let me know what you're looking for, I'll know whick one to write up first.
Welcome, Algar! I am indeed planning on writing up specialty priests for any of the gods that PCs might be clerics of. As I'm on vacation until tomorrow night and don't have my books with me, but I'll get on writing up an ogre god or two for you.
You're right about gnolls not being included. I know that there's a lot of people who like them, but I never have, do I'm not including them in this game. I hope that's not a dealbreaker.
I'll take a look at Haela and see what I can come up with. And yes, bugbears, ogres, and half-ogres will take damage as large creatures as per the rules. Shall I adapt Haela into an orcish deity, then?
I would be interested in playing in this.
I have never done a Play by Post game so I would need some help figuring out how that works.
I had made a character that would fit in great to this game and I would love a chance to play him. The story is in my profile.
Regardless of if I get in or not this is a great idea for a game. =D
Definitely showing interest in a bugbear fighter/thief.
Welcome, Gandrick! Your backstory looks pretty good, it should work out fine, and of course there's room for you. Don't worry about not having played before; we all have to start somewhere. It's not that tough; and we'll help you out as needed.
Havocprince, a bugbear fighter/thief sounds good to me.
Considering the abundance of interest you're all showing, I think I'll make up a campaign discussion page for the game. I'll post a description of your starting town, specifics for character creation, and other pertinent information. Once made, you're welcome to make your characters there. Stay tuned, but it won't be up until tomorrow night. Welcome to the End of the World!
(This doesn't mean that others interested can no longer join. If you'd like to play, speak up!)
Obligatory Dragonbait reference has finally shown up.
Welcome, Elton! As Algar stated, saurials are not available to play in this campaign (see the first post in the thread for a list of available races), but if you'd like to play a paladin, you may. Due to the limited race selection, I'm adjusting the racial class restrictions, and orcs and half-orcs may become paladins. All non-race restrictions for paladinhood, alignment and otherwise, still apply, so they're certainly rare, and have certain...difficulties with the culture of their society. Likewise, other classes usually barred from the humanoid races are available to one or more races, should you be interested.
I hope not playing a saurial isn't a dealbreaker for you. If not, I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
Would barbarian out of the barbarian handbook be allowed?
If not I'd just do a straight fighter.
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Welcome, Elton! As Algar stated, saurials are not available to play in this campaign (see the first post in the thread for a list of available races), but if you'd like to play a paladin, you may. Due to the limited race selection, I'm adjusting the racial class restrictions, and orcs and half-orcs may become paladins. All non-race restrictions for paladinhood, alignment and otherwise, still apply, so they're certainly rare, and have certain...difficulties with the culture of their society. Likewise, other classes usually barred from the humanoid races are available to one or more races, should you be interested.
I hope not playing a saurial isn't a dealbreaker for you. If not, I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
It's a bit disappointing.
you mean the barbarian class?
There was no barbarian class in 2nd edition until the barbarian's handbook came out.
So yea I was asking to play that class.
As I don't have the Barbarian's Handbook, I'd rather you play a fighter or other core class, Gandrick.
No problem
I'm thinking a silver haired Half-Orc Fighter/Mage/Cleric, who wears an all red outfit, a red cape, and a red pimp hat with a white plume feather. :P
The out-of-character thread is up! Read what I've posted there and start making characters!
Cool a priestess it is I will gladly make you one than
Well it looks like the racial class restrictions don't make it possible to play my Red Mage. Have fun and good campaigning all.
Anybody else interested? There's still plenty of space for more players!