Mathwei ap Niall |
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Otherworld Miniatures have a great Owlbear mini.
Paizo did sell them in the past but I don't know if any are in stock. It likely comes with a 30mm base (need to check mine somewhere tugged safely away) but I'm sure you can mount it on a 25 mm base.
It actually comes on a 40mm base and stands 38mm tall. Awesome looking mini and it comes in 5 separate pieces.
Here, take a look at it OwlBear.
Thod |
Thod wrote:Otherworld Miniatures have a great Owlbear mini.
Paizo did sell them in the past but I don't know if any are in stock. It likely comes with a 30mm base (need to check mine somewhere tugged safely away) but I'm sure you can mount it on a 25 mm base.
It actually comes on a 40mm base and stands 38mm tall. Awesome looking mini and it comes in 5 separate pieces.
Here, take a look at it OwlBear.
Thanks for the correction. Seems it shrunk in my memory. Next time I should look it up. But it's one of the Otherworld mini's I had lots of fun to paint.
Bunthazar |
Kay, first off, sorry for not spoiler-tagging my original post. I don't forum browse much, and wasn't aware it was a thing you could do. Thanks Jessica for fixing that for me.
Second, I realize the big draw is for the fact that you get an owlbear companion, and I love it. I'm helping my GF who has the boon build a mad dog aasimar barbarian for RAGIN' CELESTIAL OWLBEARS. But, since when I make characters, I do try to optomize them much as I can so they don't get useless feeling after a while, I wanted to know if there was some hidden benefit I'm missing to a 10 charisma on an animal companion, since a bear seems kinda lackluster overall. I'm honestly really surprised they don't get large, but I guess I'm imagining grizzly bear, and Paizo is imagining black bear. Anyway, thanks for the feedback all.
MisterSlanky |
Basically, Paizo (and any of it's volunteer representatives) are not allowed to run We Be Goblins Too! before July 1st unless it is at a Free RPG Day participating venue.
Also, it may be run as a PFS table starting June 15th 2013.
I'm sure Paizo would appreciate anyone else, only running the module at a participating venue until July 1st, but once you have a copy of the module it is yours to do with as you please.
Who made up that rule, somebody with Free RPG Day? That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
I went to Free RPG Day (Heck I even ran at a Free RPG Day Venue), I picked up my hardcopy of the module, and if I want to run it at Moe's Game Shack down the road, there is zero that anybody can do about it. What are they going to do, send out the RPG police?
John Compton Developer |
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Kay, first off, sorry for not spoiler-tagging my original post. I don't forum browse much, and wasn't aware it was a thing you could do. Thanks Jessica for fixing that for me.
Second, I realize the big draw is for the fact that you get an owlbear companion, and I love it. I'm helping my GF who has the boon build a mad dog aasimar barbarian for RAGIN' CELESTIAL OWLBEARS. But, since when I make characters, I do try to optomize them much as I can so they don't get useless feeling after a while, I wanted to know if there was some hidden benefit I'm missing to a 10 charisma on an animal companion, since a bear seems kinda lackluster overall. I'm honestly really surprised they don't get large, but I guess I'm imagining grizzly bear, and Paizo is imagining black bear. Anyway, thanks for the feedback all.
Some benefits of having a 10 Charisma animal companion include:
- Better Intimidate checks
- Less vulnerability to those creatures/effects that damage Charisma
- Bragging rights when your animal companion is more personable than other members of the party
Iammars |
Some benefits of having a 10 Charisma animal companion include:
- Better Intimidate checks
- Less vulnerability to those creatures/effects that damage Charisma
- Bragging rights when your animal companion is more personable than other members of the party
The 3rd one is pretty much what I would use it for.
"Geez, even my owlbear managed to insult the diplomat.""But your owlbear didn't speak to him!"
"Exactly."
JohnF Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West |
Don Walker wrote:Basically, Paizo (and any of it's volunteer representatives) are not allowed to run We Be Goblins Too! before July 1st unless it is at a Free RPG Day participating venue.
Also, it may be run as a PFS table starting June 15th 2013.
I'm sure Paizo would appreciate anyone else, only running the module at a participating venue until July 1st, but once you have a copy of the module it is yours to do with as you please.
Who made up that rule, somebody with Free RPG Day? That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
I went to Free RPG Day (Heck I even ran at a Free RPG Day Venue), I picked up my hardcopy of the module, and if I want to run it at Moe's Game Shack down the road, there is zero that anybody can do about it. What are they going to do, send out the RPG police?
I'll preface my remarks by saying that I have no intention of running WBG2 again before July 1st, and even if I did run a table it would almost certainly be at one of the two nearby stores that did participate in Free RPG Day. If I were asked to run at the third (non-participating) store I wouldn't agree to run until after the module became freely available.
But that's just a personal decision. I think it would be a stupid 'rule', because its all but unenforceable. Most of the players at the three stores I know about where WBG2 was played (those two nearby ones, and one a bit further away where I was running) walked out of the store with a hardcopy of the module, and a good number of those players were GMs. The event reporting allowed my wife to create an event for WBG2 without asking whether this was at a participating store (it was). And the rules for running WBG2 as a PFS-sanctioned module (downloaded with the chronicle sheet, and available before Free RPG Day) make no mention of any such date restriction.
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Halfling cavalier beast rider made...
Soon...my owl bear shall be large!!!! MUAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
What you really need is a tengu cavalier with an owlbear mount... maybe start up a pack of bandits and take advantage of all those sleepy villages on an annual basis. Fill your rice coffers at their expense, you know? Maybe fight some uppity 'Pathfinders' that have decided to fortify one of those villages -- slap 'em around some.
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Rogue Eidolon |
Kyle Elliott wrote:What you really need is a tengu cavalier with an owlbear mount... maybe start up a pack of bandits and take advantage of all those sleepy villages on an annual basis. Fill your rice coffers at their expense, you know? Maybe fight some uppity 'Pathfinders' that have decided to fortify one of those villages -- slap 'em around some.Halfling cavalier beast rider made...
Soon...my owl bear shall be large!!!! MUAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah, get an axebeak mount for your tengu cavalier and then always party with a tengu bard who somehow managed to get the owlbear as a companion (maybe he's secretly a sylvan sorcerer).
godsDMit |
Kyle Elliott wrote:What you really need is a tengu cavalier with an owlbear mount... maybe start up a pack of bandits and take advantage of all those sleepy villages on an annual basis. Fill your rice coffers at their expense, you know? Maybe fight some uppity 'Pathfinders' that have decided to fortify one of those villages -- slap 'em around some.Halfling cavalier beast rider made...
Soon...my owl bear shall be large!!!! MUAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Had a player with a tengu at my table of Quest 3 a couple months back. I had to stop the table due to my laughter once he told me what his race was. I then promptly went to tell the other GMs who were running the same thing what was going on. :P
Edit: Adding an owlbear to the mix would have made it all the better. :P
Azouth |
I was wondering about this.
"If you possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear as an animal companion or mount that progresses as an animal companion..."
but the FAQ says
As a paladin or cavalier, what mount can I have?
As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you’re a Medium PC, your mount must be Large. If you’re a Small PC, your mount must be at least Medium. You may only select a mount from the listed mounts on page 63 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook unless another source grants access to additional creature choices. As a cavalier, you may select a mount from those listed on page 33 of the Advanced Player's Guide. No additional mounts are legal in Pathfinder Society Organized Play except when granted from another legal source.
"As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level."
It is the starting at 1st level part that confused me as the bear is small at 1st level. So even small PC would not be able to use as a mount.
So, what does this mean. That the boon overrides the FAQ, and any PC can take the it as a mount. Just small PC can ride it at 4th or what? Because By the Society rule no one can use this as a mount.
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Azouth |
But that is not what it says.
If you possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear as an animal companion or mount that progresses as an animal companion, you may instead gain the service of an owlbear.
"or mount that progresses as an animal companion"
A cavalier gains the service of a loyal and trusty steed to carry him into battle. This mount functions as a druid’s animal companion, using the cavalier’s level as his effective druid level.
The second type of bond allows a paladin to gain the service of an unusually intelligent, strong, and loyal steed to serve her in her crusade against evil. This mount is usually a heavy horse (for a Medium paladin) or a pony (for a Small paladin), although more exotic mounts, such as a boar, camel, or dog are also suitable. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the paladin's level as her effective druid level. Bonded mounts have an Intelligence of at least 6.
The second option is to form a close bond with an animal companion. A ranger who selects an animal companion can choose from the list on this page. This animal is a loyal companion that accompanies the ranger on his adventures as appropriate for its kind. A ranger's animal companion shares his favored enemy and favored terrain bonuses.
All 3 could take it as the first part " possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear as an animal companion" only applies to things that don't get it as a mount.
and the second part ("or mount that progresses as an animal companion") all you need is a mount that "progresses as an animal companion"
But if we add the "As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level."
Only paladins have a restriction?
Grammar Nazi |
But that is not what it says.
If you possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear as an animal companion or mount that progresses as an animal companion, you may instead gain the service of an owlbear.
You appear to be parsing that sentence like this:
Global: "If you..."Option 1: "possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear as an animal companion"
or
Option 2: "mount that progresses as an animal companion"
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The above is incorrect. The correct way to parse the sentence would be:
Global: "If you possess a class feature that permits you to take a bear..."
Option 1: "as an animal companion"
or
Option 2: "mount that progresses as an animal companion"
The qualifier of it having to be a bear applies to the entire condition, not just to the first of the two versions of the condition.
The Fox |
Oh, I see.
So, I guess levels of different class with animal companion don't stack?
They do. See PRD.
If a character receives an animal companion from more than one source, her effective druid levels stack for the purposes of determining the statistics and abilities of the companion.
What matters is what class you are when you gain the animal companion. So a Druid 1/Ranger 6 can have a bear with effective Druid level 4.
kinevon |
Azouth wrote:Oh, I see.
So, I guess levels of different class with animal companion don't stack?
They do. See PRD.
PRD wrote:If a character receives an animal companion from more than one source, her effective druid levels stack for the purposes of determining the statistics and abilities of the companion.What matters is what class you are when you gain the animal companion. So a Druid 1/Ranger 6 can have a bear with effective Druid level 4.
Note that there is a proviso: The class levels only stack for animal componaions that are legal for both classes to take.
Paladin 5/Druid 2 could have a horse or camel with the levels from both classes stacking, but a crocodile would only have the druid levels counted.
Note that that is disregarding the effects of feats like Boon Companion, which jiggers the whole thing up.
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My Fiancee's Druid and her Owlbear, AlsoBoris, has become rather popular at our lodge. A couple people have even begun composing the Ballad of AlsoBoris, better known as Goodnight AlsoBoris.
Half orc with a russian accent and an owlbear who really just doesn't care about her orders. This has come up several times.
"AlsoBoris! Barbarians surrounded us! Attack!"
~AlsoBoris decides to take a nap~
"AlsoBoris! No! Don't attack they surrendered!"
~AlsoBoris proceeds to ignore this request and mauls a surrendered Sorcerer to almost negative con~
"AlsoBoris! Run those are Wraiths!"
~AlsoBoris ignores fear and reason and continues trying to maul a Wraith~
That -4 to Handle Animal has had some funny repercussions at lower levels.
teribithia9 |
Anyone who can ride a medium creature can, although an exotic saddle is required. Only classes that could get a bear companion initially can get the owlbear though. No paladins, cavaliers, or rangers.
Beastmaster Ranger can get a bear.
Beastrider Cavalier can get a bear, but only if you're a medium sized character and not until 7th level: "In addition, a 7th-level or higher Medium beast rider can select any creature whose natural size is Large or Huge, provided that creature is normally available as a Medium-sized animal companion at 7th level (like a bear). "Aaron Mayhew |
Beastrider Cavalier can get a bear, but only if you're a medium sized character and not until 7th level: "In addition, a 7th-level or higher Medium beast rider can select any creature whose natural size is Large or Huge, provided that creature is normally available as a Medium-sized animal companion at 7th level (like a bear). "
Actually, you'd have to be small to get a bear companion as a cavalier. Bear's start small and advance to medium at 4th level.
Other classes that gets easy access to bear companions is the Mad Dog Barbarian Archtype and Clerics and Inquisitors with the animal domain.
Jeff Merola |
teribithia9 wrote:Beastrider Cavalier can get a bear, but only if you're a medium sized character and not until 7th level: "In addition, a 7th-level or higher Medium beast rider can select any creature whose natural size is Large or Huge, provided that creature is normally available as a Medium-sized animal companion at 7th level (like a bear). "Actually, you'd have to be small to get a bear companion as a cavalier. Bear's start small and advance to medium at 4th level.
Other classes that gets easy access to bear companions is the Mad Dog Barbarian Archtype and Clerics and Inquisitors with the animal domain.
Um, he quoted the actual rules text for the Beastrider Cavalier and its example of a legal choice for a 7th level Medium Cavalier is a bear.
Bigrin da Troll |
If you have an owl bear companion I strongly suggest that you take the Boon Companion feat and Skill Focus Handle Animal or buy a charisma boosting item to get a higher Handle animal score.
I recommend you buy an INT boosting item with 'Handle Animal' as the associated skill, giving you automatic max ranks in the skill without having to spend too many of your precious skill points.
teribithia9 |
teribithia9 wrote:Beastrider Cavalier can get a bear, but only if you're a medium sized character and not until 7th level: "In addition, a 7th-level or higher Medium beast rider can select any creature whose natural size is Large or Huge, provided that creature is normally available as a Medium-sized animal companion at 7th level (like a bear). "Actually, you'd have to be small to get a bear companion as a cavalier. Bear's start small and advance to medium at 4th level.
Other classes that gets easy access to bear companions is the Mad Dog Barbarian Archtype and Clerics and Inquisitors with the animal domain.
Nope-- please read the quote from the archetype. Medium beast riders can take any creature whose natural size is large or huge (like a bear) but that is usually available as a medium sized animal companion and then advance it to large. Bear is specifically called out as an example of this in the text: "In addition, a 7th-level or higher Medium beast rider can select any creature whose natural size is Large or Huge, provided that creature is normally available as a Medium-sized animal companion at 7th level (like a bear). "
A small beast rider couldn't have the owlbear, because small beast riders don't gain access to bears as mounts.
Name Violation |
elf, half elf, or aasimar oracle with lunar mystery, and favored class bonus to add 1/2 to effective level for one revelation (animal companion revelation). owlbear of your level +1/2 (so 6 at 4, 9 at 6, ect)
wait to take revelation until 7 (can still have access via ring of revelation or armor that does same thing). take animal ally (and nature soul pre req). animal companion of level - 3. you double dip levels.
at 8 you can have a level 17 companion.
also ring of revelation (and the armor that does the same thing) add +1 if you have the revelation (BOTH make this a 19th level companion at 8)
aasimar can also take celestial companion feat.
OWLBEAR IS AMAZING
(nature oracle can do this with a horse, and it starts with a 6 int for crazy Dragon Stance Horse Of The North Star)