Suggestions for a Summoner Race


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I'm a fairly new PF player, and currently have a half-orc ranger. I was looking at making a Summoner for my second character, but am unsure of what race to choose. I assume I will need Intelligence for this class, but I also want to be a race that is on the smaller side.

My problem comes in that there aren't any smaller sized races that have a +Intelligence racial boost (i.e. gnomes, halflings, dwarves). I'd love to make a gnome or halfling Summoner but feel I am doing a disservice to my character by not choosing a race with +Int.

Maybe it doesn't matter all that much, I'm not sure.

I know elves have +Int, but I really don't like playing elves. I know half-elves, humans, and half-orcs have a +2 they can add to any ability score, but I'm not partial to half-elves or humans, and my current character is a half-orc.

Should I just make a gnome or halfing and not worry about the +int boost? Or are there other, small-type races that have a +int boost?

Shadow Lodge

Summoners are CHA-based casters, so gnome or halfling will work just fine for you.


A summoner's casting ability is based off of their charisma. Also their summon monster x spell like ability is granted to them a number of times per day equal to 3+their charisma mod. Thus either gnome or halfling will be fine for your summoner.

Summoners would only really need intelligence for getting more skills.

Dark Archive

According to this guide Humans and Half-Elves compete for top notch, thanks to their floating +2 (in Cha) and either a bonus feat (for a Human; Spell Focus (conj) and Augment Summoning, at 1st level) or the 1/2 Elf Favored Class bonus that grants 1 extra evolution point / 4 levels.

Shadow Lodge

If you go the Stealth Summoner route, Go Unnoticed is a good feat for small Summoners. Alternately, a small Summoner can have an eidolon mount and the two can ride into combat together.

I have a Halfling Stealth-style Summoner who is taking Augment Summoning, Go Unnoticed, and Lucky Halfling to be a master unseen buffer/protector for his Biped Ripper-style eidolon.


InVinoVeritas wrote:
Summoners are CHA-based casters, so gnome or halfling will work just fine for you.

Ahh, that changes things then. I thought it was based on their intelligence.

Thanks for the replies.

The Exchange

When I saw this thread I immediately pictured a bunch of gnomes in robes mounted on a wild assortment of creatures lining up like the indy 500, HA!

I would go either half-elf for a synthesist, or human for master summoner. If I was going straight summoner, I would use a gnome and go for the pouncing mount set-up.


You know I keep looking for a non standard race that might have a +4 to Charisma but I have yet to find one.

I am with Set and saying that Half-elves are a good bet because of their floating stat but also their favored class bonus for getting extra evolution points.

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