Okay so last time my group and I gamed we found that we each read the rules differently for epic level advancement. Most specifically Base attack bonus and saving throws.
(For an example character I will use level 20 Samurai / 7 dragon shaman, one of my players characters)
I and one other read the rules as such from the Samurai levels the BAB is 20/15/10/5 and from the Dragon Shaman levels the BAB for that is +5 so the total would be 25/20/15/10 plus all relevant bonuses and such.
Whereas three others in the group read the rules as after you pass ECL (or total level 20) you only receive the Epic level attack and save bonuses. +1 at every odd level for attack so from the above example the final BAB would be 24/19/14/9.
I know the final numbers don’t look all that different and but it derailed the game for a good 45 minutes and the conversation got a little heated.
So I was hoping to get some others players and GMs input to this mater.
These are great I have been working on mapping for the last 6 months or so, and while I think my maps look okay they are pretty lame looking and some of the things you have posted already make me all giddy to try.
Keep up the posts and you will have someone there everyweek absorbing and trying your hints and tips!
What did the five fingers say to the face?
SLAP *while slapping someone in the face*
I miss Dave Chappelle
Digitalelf wrote: Here is the Feat Index from the WotC 3.5 Archive...
If the feat exists, and is from a WotC supplement, it should be here:
Feat Index
Not quite what I was looking for. But that is a really handy site, and it is now bookmarked. Thanks for your help.
Are wrote: I remember a Prestige Class (Deepwarden, from Races of Stone) that allowed the character to use CON instead of DEX for AC, but not a feat.
Ya I keep coming across that as well...
Maybe I am just crazy
Hey all,
I have been scouring all my books and supliments trying to find something I think I saw once.
Would someone be able to tell me if I only think I saw it or if it exists.
The Feat that I am looking for would allow a character to use some or all of their CON bonus as part of their AC.
Thanks for your help.
Wander Weir wrote: Sissyl wrote: Luncelot wrote:
STR = 5
DEX = 8
CON = 5
INT = 9
WIS = 10
CHA =6
Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
The gods of the dice did not so much not favour you as actively despise you?
If I got this array, I WOULD play that character. Preferably a half-orc, to "improve" the physical stats... So would I, if only to see how long I could keep him alive. I'd just spend the entire campaign trying to aid people. It's too bad the 10 is in Wis instead of Cha. Dice gods...why do you no love me...was the sacrifice I made last game night not to your liking *drops to knees and parys to the giant d20 in the sky*
Well if I was going to play this array I was thinking of play a angry old man sort of character. Dwarf most likely, a sickly angry dwarf cleric.
STR = 5
DEX = 8
CON = 7
INT = 9
WIS = 12
CHA = 4
Dear lord I don't think he would last long at all.
STR 3d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 1) = 5
DEX 3d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 3) = 8
CON 3d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 3) = 5
INT 3d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 5) = 9
WIS 3d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 5) = 10
CHA 3d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 1) = 6
Uhm....human...dead body on side of road.
We were playinf AD&D 2nd ed for the longest time almost a year before we got a couple of new players and we have taken a bit of a break (now playing Star Wars D20) bofore I take over the reigns again running my revamped 3.5 game.
Oh and we play every other week.
Crimson Jester wrote: Deys jus' ned ta go down ta Bon Temps ways an learn be real vamps. Not Bon Temps....but Shreveport thats where the real vamps be.
In a Dragonlance 3.5 game, I wanted to play a Gully Dwarf Barbarian with weapon focus in "headbut to crotch" as his only weapon. DM said no.
I was sad.
1. Dragonlance d20 supliments are just plain fun, a good deal of "fluff and crunch" as the parlance is.
2. Love the Frostrager, only 5 levels but they are five levels of fun
3. Straight Fighter for d20, but in 2nd I will have to go with Thief
4. Shadeloke "The unwanted shadow" - He was my longest run character and I still pull him out time to time for a 2nd ed NPC. Born a Shadow Genasi he took to the shadows and found that stabbing people in the back was easier than a frontal assault. Joined an adventuring party decided that he wanted to add magic to his skills he decided to apprentice under the shadow mage that was the "leader" of the party. After enough time and tutelage he stabbed his master in the back and took his stuff.
My first WTF of this year was the death of the Pixie;
The party was on the road to the keep I was sending them to for the actual mission they were over half way there when I rolled sevre weather (rain / hail). So the Pixie, who was vain, didn't want to get wet and hid under the Wemic's sheild as he was using it to sheild most of himself from the hail, a few rolls later I rolled "Massive Pit Trap." I ask the party to roll a check and only one person fails it...the wemic, so I start to tell them whats going on how deep how much damage is done etc, then one of the players remind me that the pixie was hiding under the sheild and I have her make a DEX check and she criticaly fails. The Pixie is knocked out by the falling sheild, and falls down into the pit under the wemic...she survived all that. So the Wemic picked her up and put her in one of his pouches and then used his folding boat as a ladder to get out of the pit.
And the party starts to go again with the pixie in the wemics pouch, it wasn't until the player of the pixie said, "And I fly up to the trees to enjoy the sun coming out..." Nope sorry you don't you are still in the pouch and *roll, roll roll* you have taken another 15 points of damge due to bleeding and thus Fire Blossom died in a pouch and was buried in the woods.
Well lets see my favorite character of all time was a shadow plane touched genasi.
But other than that I try not to play standard races other than when I am required to by the game.
My last 4 characters
Blood Sea Minotaur Monk
Bozak Draconian Fighter
Elf Barbarian/Ranger
Irda (high ogre) Force Mage
Why yes I do like the Dragonlance setting why do you ask?
Currently though I am GMing a game of 2nd Ed about to switch to 3.5 and in our party we have
Orge-Mage fighter
1/2 Elf ranger
Drow Bladesinger
Dwarven fighter/theif
Human Mage/Theif (who is dressed in the grab of a plague doctor)
Human fighter
I have however killed, a pixie theif, drove off a Wemic fighter (because he wouldn't go underground), Human wizard, and an Elven Necromancer (mage/cleric)
Shadeloke Nac’noram
This was a character I started in a Planescape group, a shadow Genasi (I am probably spelling that wrong) thief with the bounty hunter kit in AD&D. We played for almost a year getting to about 7th level before we folded into another group. With the first group he accumulated a small wealth of magical items all were sold to pay for his gambling addiction (Something I played with to give him a bit of a back story), everything that is but his favorite dagger, “The Lepers Touch”, when someone was cut by the dagger even a mere scratch they were infected with a rotting disease that caused a painful death in less than 6 days.
When we folded into the other group there was a difference in levels that was fairly large, they were all around 13th or 14th level, so we quickly gained enough XP to equal out the levels, and thanks to the Thief chart I was soon the highest level character in the group. I was getting a little bored with playing, not the game or anything; it was just the mechanics of the fighting. So I decided to become an apprentice to the mage in the party, fortunately for me he was a shadow mage (Bonus out the butt for being in shadows or darkness). So I took on the roll or mage’s assistant for a long time (Almost a year in real time) before Shade got tired of being the treated like a student when he deserved more.
So I let the GM know it and mentioned that at the end of the next battle when all of the other mages stoneskins are gone I am going to backstab him. When the Gm smiled I knew he liked the plan.
Our next battle was a major one, with enough experience for all to gain at least one or two levels and at the end of it with everyone bloodied, worn out and almost all spells expended, Shade slid over to his “Master” and stabbed him once.
Critical Hit, check the chart. Oh my, that’s triple damage. God the look on everyone’s face when I did that was just great ranging from anger to laughter.
Best character ever!
The NPC's
Molly the Bar Rag (Every town we ever went to had a Molly, and you never knew what you would get from her, spin the wheel of V-D)
Timmy the Kolbold, we never could figure out how to kill him...so eventually we put him in an iron box and left him for dead on a island
That moth&$^%#$%#$^%^ whole stole my #$%^ing belt, A halfing who had a penchant for stealing a party members belt. Nothing else...just the belt.
Ballcap Shatterknee, a permanently reduced hill giant (Under 3 feet tall, but still had full strength) always called shots to people knees with a +3 hammer. Not a war hammer but a regular hammer.
Boomstick, a force mage who liked to fireball things from the back of a Wemic PC, mainly cause if he didn’t the Wemic would kill him.
The PC’s
The Welcome Mat, (from West End Star Wars) he was a Wookie who got our party in trouble with the imperials and got us arrested, I ask what the Imperials took from us. Comlinks, weapons and such, but left us with all our personal gear, like the three cans of spray paint my character had on him for no reason, and walked over to the stunned and stupefied wookie that was dropped right in front of the door and sprayed WELCOME across his back. (As a note, it is not the best to make your GM who has a torn diaphragm laugh so hard she passes out. And it was the whole session not just this one part)
Hmmm drawing a blank on some more, I am sure to have more to post after this weekend
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