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Would custom faction shirts still comply with the re-roll rule at official events or must they be the ones sold by Paizo? Using the official logo downloads, you could make printed decals or a local uniform shop could create silk screens. Would it be a problem if I showed in a blue taldor shirt, or maybe a white Osirion shirt? What about adding other items like the society logo on the back. We've also discussed getting polo's with a small society logo on the chest and a full-sized faction symbol on the back.
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I doubt it.
The point is to sell the shirts and make profit more than get Paizo-love exposure at Cons. (Look at the fact that you don't get a free roll for wearing a Paizo shirt)
I want to get a Cheliax shirt with the whole Cheliax flag, not just the crossed circle. But I doubt Paizo can sell enough of the shirts to justify making them.
Only our shirts count for the re-roll. I'm sure you can appreciate why.
As for new shirts in the future--while the current shirts are selling okay, we'd need to see a large increase in sales (or sell out of the shirts we have) before we even considered making new shirts.
Are there any PFS shirts available? Not the faction shirts but ones with the PFS logo on them?
Not right now. Shirts are not exactly a cash cow and it's difficult for us to make generic logo shirts like that and then actually sell them.
For now, it's the current faction shirts that we currently have in stock.
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Given that you're now allowed to wear any faction t-shirt to gain the re-roll, not necessarily the t-shirt of the faction of your current character being played at the table, might it be a good idea to expand the t-shirt re-roll to include any official Paizo/Pathfinder t-shirt, including purple golem logo (clearly promoting the company), grey maidens (a little obscure, but a fun fashion t-shirt in golarion spirit), and the goblin t's (which now sold out, must have been a hit!) Re-rolls might help to sell any Paizo t-shirt.
I've occasionally wanted to wear my goblin t-shirt to a game instead of a faction t-shirt, but haven't, solely on the basis of the re-roll. (I know I can just carry it in my bag, sometimes I do, but that's not really the point).
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Given that you're now allowed to wear any faction t-shirt to gain the re-roll, not necessarily the t-shirt of the faction of your current character being played at the table, might it be a good idea to expand the t-shirt re-roll to include any official Paizo/Pathfinder t-shirt, including purple golem logo (clearly promoting the company), grey maidens (a little obscure, but a fun fashion t-shirt in golarion spirit), and the goblin t's (which now sold out, must have been a hit!) Re-rolls might help to sell any Paizo t-shirt.
I've occasionally wanted to wear my goblin t-shirt to a game instead of a faction t-shirt, but haven't, solely on the basis of the re-roll. (I know I can just carry it in my bag, sometimes I do, but that's not really the point).
I'll add my hearty "yea" to this idea. Nothing worse than going to a convention where I've got three days of gaming scheduled and only one "faction" t-shirt, but three Paizo t-shirts. Unlike some, I am a odor-conscious gamer.
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Given that you're now allowed to wear any faction t-shirt to gain the re-roll, not necessarily the t-shirt of the faction of your current character being played at the table, might it be a good idea to expand the t-shirt re-roll to include any official Paizo/Pathfinder t-shirt, including purple golem logo (clearly promoting the company), grey maidens (a little obscure, but a fun fashion t-shirt in golarion spirit), and the goblin t's (which now sold out, must have been a hit!) Re-rolls might help to sell any Paizo t-shirt.
I've occasionally wanted to wear my goblin t-shirt to a game instead of a faction t-shirt, but haven't, solely on the basis of the re-roll. (I know I can just carry it in my bag, sometimes I do, but that's not really the point).
I ran into this issue at Paizocon. I had forgotten my faction shirt at home, in the rush to pack. Arrived at Paizocon, went to the store Saturday Afternoon to pick up a shirt, and they were all out of my size shirt, except for the Paizo blue gollum.
So I was DENIED the opportunity of my reroll at Paizocon.
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I'll add my hearty "yea" to this idea. Nothing worse than going to a convention where I've got three days of gaming scheduled and only one "faction" t-shirt, but three Paizo t-shirts. Unlike some, I am a odor-conscious gamer.
I too add my yea in the hopes that the emblem of a Goblin carrying a free re-roll will grant a free re-roll in Society games.
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I'll add my hearty "yea" to this idea. Nothing worse than going to a convention where I've got three days of gaming scheduled and only one "faction" t-shirt, but three Paizo t-shirts. Unlike some, I am a odor-conscious gamer.I too add my yea in the hopes that the emblem of a Goblin carrying a free re-roll will grant a free re-roll in Society games.
If not, I'll wait for that big PFS Lodge T-shirt. Hopefully in a attractive tan colour.
The Year of the Ruby Phoenix shirts are pretty spiffy, and grant a re-roll.
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Carry it with you. Pull out as needed.
I'll add my hearty "yea" to this idea. Nothing worse than going to a convention where I've got three days of gaming scheduled and only one "faction" t-shirt, but three Paizo t-shirts. Unlike some, I am a odor-conscious gamer.
Great...now I get to carry a used stinky t-shirt with me everywhere. ;-)
Given that you're now allowed to wear any faction t-shirt to gain the re-roll, not necessarily the t-shirt of the faction of your current character being played at the table, might it be a good idea to expand the t-shirt re-roll to include any official Paizo/Pathfinder t-shirt, including purple golem logo (clearly promoting the company), grey maidens (a little obscure, but a fun fashion t-shirt in golarion spirit), and the goblin t's (which now sold out, must have been a hit!) Re-rolls might help to sell any Paizo t-shirt.
I've occasionally wanted to wear my goblin t-shirt to a game instead of a faction t-shirt, but haven't, solely on the basis of the re-roll. (I know I can just carry it in my bag, sometimes I do, but that's not really the point).
I ran into this issue at Paizocon. I had forgotten my faction shirt at home, in the rush to pack. Arrived at Paizocon, went to the store Saturday Afternoon to pick up a shirt, and they were all out of my size shirt, except for the Paizo blue gollum.
So I was DENIED the opportunity of my reroll at Paizocon.
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Whoa whoa whoa! Are you serious? My girlfriend and I went to the Paizo booth at Gencon to buy reroll shirts. When picking which shirt we wanted we asked the guy Identified as the "customer service manager" which shirts allowed rerolls and he said any of the official Paizo shirts. I asked if he was sure the goblin shirt was included and he said absolutely. I can't remember his name, but he was very memorable. He had a big curly old timey mustache.
Please don't tell me we spent like $50 on 2 goblin shirts and the guy was full of it? I like the shirts, but a shirt wasn't all I was purchasing.
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That was more than likely Cosmo and I don't honestly know that there has been to Kuching conversation on which shirts grant bonuses so I will flag this for the FAQ. This might have been a honest mistake or miscommunication. Honesty I'm not sure why any official Paizo shirt wouldn't count. But let's hold on any more speculation until we get a official word
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Actually according to the store blog the goblin shirt grants a reroll, but only when playing a goblin.
Actually according to the store blog the goblin shirt grants a reroll, but only when playing a goblin.
Store blog commentary says it's not official, alas. :)
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Whoa whoa whoa! Are you serious? My girlfriend and I went to the Paizo booth at Gencon to buy reroll shirts. When picking which shirt we wanted we asked the guy Identified as the "customer service manager" which shirts allowed rerolls and he said any of the official Paizo shirts. I asked if he was sure the goblin shirt was included and he said absolutely. I can't remember his name, but he was very memorable. He had a big curly old timey mustache.Please don't tell me we spent like $50 on 2 goblin shirts and the guy was full of it? I like the shirts, but a shirt wasn't all I was purchasing.
The only 6 shirts that currently grant re-rolls are the ones listed in the organized play guide. That's the faction shirts for the original 5 factions and the year of the ruby phoenix shirt.
EDIT: but if I was running you in We Be Goblins and you were wearing a goblin shirt...you might be able to convince me to give you a re-roll. it only seems fair...
Maybe if the player sings one of the goblin songs from memory. Loudly. Proudly. In a goblin voice!
I would have gladly bought the year of the ruby phoenix shirt instead of the goblin shirt. I like both of them. :\
I would have gladly bought the year of the ruby phoenix shirt instead of the goblin shirt. I like both of them. :\
Are there any PFS Admins who can shed some light on this situation?
I would have gladly bought the year of the ruby phoenix shirt instead of the goblin shirt. I like both of them. :\Are there any PFS Admins who can shed some light on this situation?
Not sure what is needing to be clarified, but I'll give it a go. The only t-shirts that give you one free reroll in a Pathfinder Society Organized Play session is one of the five faction t-shirts or the Year of the Ruby Phoenix shirt (available here). The goblin shirt is not one of them (alas).
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Not sure what is needing to be clarified, but I'll give it a go. The only t-shirts that give you one free reroll in a Pathfinder Society Organized Play session is one of the five faction t-shirts or the Year of the Ruby Phoenix shirt (available here). The goblin shirt is not one of them (alas).I would have gladly bought the year of the ruby phoenix shirt instead of the goblin shirt. I like both of them. :\Are there any PFS Admins who can shed some light on this situation?
... at this time.
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Not sure what is needing to be clarified, but I'll give it a go. The only t-shirts that give you one free reroll in a Pathfinder Society Organized Play session is one of the five faction t-shirts or the Year of the Ruby Phoenix shirt (available here). The goblin shirt is not one of them (alas).
... at this time.
While anyone can feel free to appeal from my scandalously loose application of the rules, (or to seek injunctive relief), I would gladly grant a re-roll to anybody wearing a Pathfinder Shirt of any make and model, be it a faction shirt, Paizo GM Volunteer shirt, Pathfinder Goblin T-shirt, Ruby Phoenix, or otherwise, as:
- wearing a Pathfinder/Paizo logo at the table is good for marketing;
- it encourages players to "wear their colors" at the game, and by colors, I mean Pathfinder RPG, not just their faction;
- given all the new factions, it seems unlikely that each will have its own faction shirt in the future (this is key); and
- it seems too arbitrary and capricious that a Ruby Phoenix for $20 is good for a re-roll, but an iconic Reynolds' Goblin shirt for the same money (and a bigger Pathfinder logo) isn't good enough. There's a disconnect for me there.
The only exception to this general approach I'd take is that the new stylish PFS Venture Captain shirts will not earn a re-roll, because (a) I don't have one; and (b) more importantly, I think I can far more easily pick off Shackleton's PFS character that way! :P
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Is it still possible to order the "old logo" Andoran shirts (eagle w/sword)?
SURE...if you're a Small or Medium ;-)
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Erik specifically said that Venture-Captain shirts do grant a re-roll. However, since he only told the VC's at the Pope dinner...some might not realize it! But still isn't allowable for GM re-rolls.
Additionally, I do think that the 'wear' rule needs to be re-listed as 'have in possession' and shown before the start of the game (or have your name written on it to further prove it's yours). Because the larger sizes cost more and while many of us age and VC'd (read: driven) to drink we may grow larger and eventually have real world belly buttons showing.
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Is it still possible to order the "old logo" Andoran shirts (eagle w/sword)?SURE...if you're a Small or Medium ;-)
Bummer. The new logo looks like a Romulan cruiser.
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Bummer. The new logo looks like a Romulan cruiser.Is it still possible to order the "old logo" Andoran shirts (eagle w/sword)?SURE...if you're a Small or Medium ;-)
So I have a question. What if you are a part of a faction that doesn't have a T-shirt? I mean yes I have a Ruby Phoenix t-shirt, but I really want a Silver Crusade shirt.. Am I just out of luck or what?
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So I have a question. What if you are a part of a faction that doesn't have a T-shirt? I mean yes I have a Ruby Phoenix t-shirt, but I really want a Silver Crusade shirt.. Am I just out of luck or what?
To get a re-roll, the T-shirt you have in your possession does not need to match the faction of your character.
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Jep, I am feeling kinda ashamed that I am necromancing this thread but I didn't wanted to create a new one. ^^
My actual question is:
Will there be new T-Shirts?
I like the idea of the shirts, but none of the available factions.
I would love to see one for the Grand Lodge and would totally buy them.
Is there a chance that there will be one available with that logo anytime soon?
More shirts in my size would encourage me to buy them.
I bought the Goblin Shirt because there was one available in my size, and may end up buying another one, given the amount of wear it's getting.
I'm a 3XL, though Longer/Taller is more important to me than width.
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And yet unless they have bigger sizes available, they won't pick up. Its a viscous circle... If they have the numbers, they should look at how quickly each different size sold, and also compare factions. I know there are still some larger sized shirts of some of the factions, so obviously those factions weren't as popular. See who plays what faction and play shirt ratios accordingly.
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My character is under `The Silver Crusade` for which there are no shirts available. If I create a shirt on a service like Zazzle.com that looks just like the Andorian one but swapped with the Silver Crusade logo on it will I still get credit for the reroll?
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Oh, and I'm going to have to start having it on at the table. It appears having it displayed across the top of my book trolly is not going to work... one judge said I had to have it on for the re-roll to count.
One of the benefits of wearing a faction t-shirt, particularly at public gaming locations, is that it's seen by other customers, gamers, members of the public, which helps promote Pathfinder.
However, if you've only got one t-shirt, and you're still wearing it on the last day of a four-day convention, I'd probably prefer you just hung it on the back of your chair during the game.
You don't have to be wearing the t-shirt to benefit from the free re-roll - but if you're not wearing it, it's a good idea to let the GM know you have one before the game begins.
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Oh, and I'm going to have to start having it on at the table. It appears having it displayed across the top of my book trolly is not going to work... one judge said I had to have it on for the re-roll to count.One of the benefits of wearing a faction t-shirt, particularly at public gaming locations, is that it's seen by other customers, gamers, members of the public, which helps promote Pathfinder.
However, if you've only got one t-shirt, and you're still wearing it on the last day of a four-day convention, I'd probably prefer you just hung it on the back of your chair during the game.
You don't have to be wearing the t-shirt to benefit from the free re-roll - but if you're not wearing it, it's a good idea to let the GM know you have one before the game begins.
At my table, you need not be wearing the shirt. But you have to have it in your possession and be willing and able to show it to me. Even if I know you own one, if you don't have it with you and I can't see it, I can't give you your re-roll.
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Ok, so why doesn't Pazio allow us to:
1) Select a Faction
2) Select a color of the shirt
3) Buy it
on one of these popular T-shirt sites? Could Pazio partner with them? Pazio can markup the price to cover their licensing fees and don't have to buy 100 t-shirts to sit in a warehouse that may not be sold for several months.
Think of this as "Pathfinder Compatible" t-shirt. As long as you purchase from the 3rd party site that Pazio has blessed then its legal.
Yes it would be more expensive, but it would allow those of us with factions that are less popular to get a shirt that official.