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Since PaO is a big part of your build, and you are so confused on it. Here.
PaO functions as greater polymorph, except it allows for the target to be an object or creature. It also changes the duration.
So now we look at greater polymorph. "If the form is that of a dragon, the spell functions as form of the dragon I."
Pretty simple, lets look at that. "You become a Medium chromatic or metallic dragon"
@thepuregamer...unless I missed it, you haven't responded to this particular point. Reading the spell, Tarantula is spot on. You can't become a Huge Dragon with Polymorph Any Object, so your build isn't possible.
Somehow, though, I don't think you'll see it that way...
You can pretend otherwise but the ability is clearly not based on my form. It is an ability that modifies my form. The extra arms aren't part of my base form. These are extra arms I get from a class feature for until I switch them out with something else.
Emphasis mine. And as you have pointed out a million times before, your form is an elf, this ability modifies the form of an ELF if you are in the form a a mastodon you are not an elf, so it therefore doesn't modify your non-elf form.
Ah. I see now. I suppose I would elect to keep up Heroism and not Barkskin.I suppose I would also elect to use Shield. So would the Alchemist.
I think my DPR still seems to me higher, although perhaps I am using the excel spreadsheet incorrectly.
I also get more feats... which means step-up, lunge etc... Along with enlarge person means I have a pretty good reach as well.
By the way, I should also have more hit points.
Again, it looks like I out damage the melee alchemist by a good 15 points/round or so.
Maybe -- If you two hand fight you'll have 2 attacks, 3 if you haste. One (or two) of those attacks will be at full bonus -- the last one will be at bonus -5... that's going to hurt your damage.
With feral mutagen all my attacks will be made at my best bonus, and I'll have three attacks (2 claws and a bite) all of which will get full power attack (as opposed to your strength and a half + extra power attack). If I am hasted I'll have 4 attacks.
I'll have just as much strength too, possibly more so if I took growth as my advanced mutagen.
If I take growth I'll be down 2 points of AC (which is fairly easy to make up) but I'll be +2 on strength and large size gaining more damage and reach (which is actual reach unlike lunge which I could also take).
In addition I'll get a free +2 to damage. Which means I'm +1 higher from strength and +2 higher from brutality.
Now you'll be BAB +9 iirc, I'll be at BAB +8 which means we'll take the same penalty from power attack.
Your bonuses are going to be about:
+9 (bab) +10 (str) +1 (weapon training)+1 (weapon focus)+2(3? on weapon) +2 for heroism -3 for power attack -1 for size +1 for haste
Meaning +22/+22/+17 to hit -- which isn't bad at all.
Mine will be very close
+8 (BAB) +10 (str) +1(weapon focus) +2 weapon +2 heroism -3 power attack -1 size +1 haste
But since all mine are natural attacks I'll have:
+20(bite)/+20(bite)/+20(claw)/+20(claw)
Your damage will be around 2d6+15(str)+9(power attack)+2(weapon)+1(weapon training)
or
2d6+27
Mine will be about:
1d6+10(str)+6(power attack)+2(weapon)+2(brutality)
1d6+20
however I'm getting an extra attack over you, and all my attacks are at +20 instead of dropping off to +17.
So I have a 85% hit rate on all attacks. you have an 90% on your first two and a 65% on your last one.
85% * 23.5 =19.975 * 4 attacks =79.9 damage with haste
yours will be:
90% * 34= 30.6 * 2 attacks = 61.2 + 65% * 34 (22.1) = 83.3
So I'm 3.4 below you as of right now at level 10.
Now you will have more feats -- however I'll have more stuff to do with my bombs -- and this is assuming I don't spend my wealth in different ways or actually sit down and find a few more points that help me too.
EDIT: I forgot you had greater weapon focus and weapon specialization which will give you about 6 more points total more damage than what I have with my skeleton build here.
Nice! But you are also forgetting that I hav critical focus and improved criticals with an Elven Curved Blade.That is worth something like 20 more points of damage over a full attack!
Um... eh.... fairly close... 8.075 for the first two swings and 5.95...
But My criticals would add in damage too...which would amount to about 4 points per attack.
So you'll have 18.10 more with critical hits factored in as well as the extra 15(ish) points per full attack.
Of course this assumes I'm just mirroring your build with the alchemist/master chymist...
Which I probably wouldn't do.
AND I'll be able to keep it up longer, in addition to having more other things I can do as well.
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Looking through this thread, I can see one problem that always comes up with "Show me why I can't do this in the rules". The core book with be huge, with entire sections dedicated to rule interpretations for every situation. This is not feasible nor will it be done. This would be a judgment call for whatever DM is running the game. I personally don't see the evolutions showing up in the polymorph. You change into a monkey, you are a monkey with the normal two arms and two legs. Just because it's an eidilon with 2 arms evolutions does not make it a four arm monkey by default. it's a monkey. Your normal physical form is replaced by the polymorph form. Even the term itself, evolution, deals with physiology.
Also a note on that limb evolution text, that is for balance, to make it take 2 evolutions to gain those extra attacks. That's all that wording is there for.
ok lets follow step by step.
1. arm needed for an unarmed strike.
2. Thus an arm is an unarmed attack.
3.
4. Thus arm is a natural attack.
5. Thus the arm is lost when you polymorph.I believe this is what you have laid out so far. But like I was saying before, there is a gap. Even if we accept your notion that an arm is a unarmed attack, how do you show that unarmed attacks are natural attacks?
Hint: they are not. they follow different rules and are clearly separate categories of attack.
That's what I get for not checking stuff out before posting. Damn fallible memory!
Alright, from the polymorph description:
Core, 212, "While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form. You also lose any class features that depend upon form, but those that allow you to add features (such as sorcerers that can grow claws) still function. [b]While most of these should be obvious[b/], the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed. Your new form might restore a number of these abilities if they are possessed by the new form."
You are the reason they had to add "the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed."
It doesn't matter how many arms you had as a half-elf. Instead, you get the mammoth stats. Just like you had 2 legs, but suddenly have 4 when you are a mammoth, you had 4 arms, and now have 0. This is obvious to all of us, you are merely pushing the point to say "its valid within the RAW" when in fact, they added the GM clause in that sentence to specifically prevent this sort of thing. Feel free to continue with your delusion that its RAW, I'm done worrying about it.
Though, I do think you were kind of on to something... I may post a summoner in here soon that was inspired by your crazy thought. :P
Because you seemed to be saying(bobson also said something like this) that if one could reselect their aspect evolutions afterward, this would 100% fit into the sorcerer example.At which point I stated, the half elf summoner could PaO into a mastadon before lvl 10(how about during lvl 9), then hits lvl 10 and gets 2 arms.
That's exactly what I was saying, and assuming you can justify leveling from 9 to 10 after having PaO cast on you, I have no problem with your build. And I assume that you can make that justification.
Alright, here's the build thepuregamer inspired me to do.
tl;dr does over 200dps with just the eidolon making a charge.
Going off this set of rules:
# Level 10, since pretty much all classes are expected to have come into their own by then, plus it's a good round number. If you don't think this is a good level to use, feel free to redo the math for some other level; I know level 10 is arbitrary and any other level from about 4 on would work just as well.
# Elite array. While I know most people play with more forgiving point-buys or rolling schemes, this is a baseline. The CR system was originally based around players using elite array or a comparable point buy.
# Standard wealth by level in magic items, but no magic items limited on a per-day or consumable basis. This means 62K gold in gear (although some builds used the older 3.5 total of 45K). No custom items, please.
# Pathfinder core (meaning the core rulebook and Bestiary) is preferred.
# Magic items will be prioritized for doing damage without adversely affecting survivability. Most classes will have a +3 weapon(s), a +4 stat booster to their damage-increasing stat, and miscellaneous other items. Most classes will also have boring magical weapons, favoring plain bonuses over fiery or holy or whatnot; this is because it's almost always better DPR and it makes my life easier. Everyone will also have a Heward's Handy Haversack because, seriously, they are level 10 characters.
# Regarding survivability, AC 22 and fort/will saves at +8 are the minimum for melee characters, barring some explanation of why the character doesn't need these things to survive. (For example, barbarians get cut some slack on AC because of their raging HP totals.)
# The most optimal build of each class. If multiple optimal builds are possible (e.g. archery and another style), then each style will be a separate entry. If a build is genuinely more optimal by sacrificing DPR for some other benefit, then the sacrifice will be made. For example, rogues will use Crippling Strike and not Bleeding Strike. With that in mind, feel free to nit-pick the build of any entrant. The idea is that each example is as optimal as possible.
We'll also need a standard for the competition. This standard is meant to best simulate typical combat circumstances, when damage is most on the line.
# Target AC of 24. This is the standard for AC at CR 10, according to the Bestiary monster building guidelines. Target touch AC, when relevant, is 12 because that seems as good as any number.
# No class will be allowed any in-combat rounds to set up. Buffs are part of your baseline if you can apply them yourself, are self-only or apply to the whole group, and they either have a duration of 10 min/level or longer or can be applied as a swift/immediate/free action.
# A single full attack unless another attack routine is more effective. Classes with significant limited abilities, be they situational ones (favored enemy, sneak attack) or limited on a per-day basis (smite, Quickened Divine Favor), will have their damage figured out both with and without those limited abilities.
# The value in DPR of a +1 to hit, a +1 damage, and an additional full-BAB attack will be figured out for each class. Some classes benefit more from one type of buff over another.
The damage formula is h(d+s)+tchd.
h = Chance to hit, expressed as a percentage
d = Damage per hit. Average damage is assumed.
s = Precision damage per hit (or other damage that isn't multiplied on a crit). Average damage is again assumed.
t = Chance to roll a critical threat, expressed as a percentage.
c = Critical hit bonus damage. x2 = 1, x3 = 2, x4 = 3.
And, finally, feel free to break any of these rules as long as you make it absolutely clear that you are doing so. If you want to stat a selfish cleric or a 3.5 splat build or a character that abuses consumables or a character that demonstrates a house rule, that's fine. Just don't make people dig into your build to find out that you've done so.
Summoner:
Attributes:
Str 8
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 13
Wis 10
Cha 15+2race+2level 19
Fort 8
Ref 7
Wil 10
AC: 22:10+1dex+4mage armor+4barksin+2shield+1natural
Favored Class Bonuses: +2 Evolution Points +2HP
Gear: 62,000
10x +1 Lance, 1d8/x3 23100gp
Cloak of res +3 9,000gp
Ring of force shield 8,500
Amulet of natural armor 1 2,000
Hewards handy haversack 2,000
Belt of giant strength +4 (eidolon) 16,000
Spells per day:
1: 5+1
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2: 4+1
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3: 3+1
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4: 1+1
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Spells known:
0: 6
1: 5
mage armor
2: 5
barkskin
haste
phantom steed
3: 4
heroism
Stoneskin
4: 2
overland flight
Eidolon:
Medium, Speed: 40ft, AC 28:10+10 natural armor+4barkskin+4mage armor
8HD, BAB: 8
Darkvision, link, share spells, evasion, ability score increase(str), devotion, multiattack, ability score increase(str)
Saves:
Fort: 11
Ref: 10
Wil: 2
1 bite 1d6 natural attack
Str: 24
Dex: 18
Con: 13
Int: 7
Wis: 10
Cha: 11
Attacks: 10x 16:8Bab+7Str+2 charge+2 heroism+1enhancement (not including the +1 higher ground, since most stuff is large)-4 Multiweapon
Damange: Main hand 1d8+7Str+1enhancementx3; offhandsx9 1d8+3Str+1enhancementx3
Evolutions: 16points
bite*
limbs(legs)*
limbs(legs)*
Weapon Training(simple) 2
Weapon Training(martial) 2
pounce 1
skilled(ride) 1
limbs(arms) 2
limbs(arms) 2
limbs(arms) 2
limbs(arms) 2
limbs(arms) 2
Eidolon Feats: 4
Mounted Combat
Ride by Attack
Spirited Charge
Two weapon fighting(Replaced by multi-weapon fighting)
Eidolon Skills: 32
Acrobatics 8
Climb 8
Ride 8
Swim 8
The summoners job is to haste his eidolon, and battlefield support. Buffs included are: Mage armor on both summoner/eidolon, barkskin on both, haste on eidolon (cast by summoner for his standard action), heroism on the eidolon, stoneskin on the eidolon, overland flight on the summoner.
I left a lot of skills and stuff blank, as they have no real impact on this.
Damage: 218.79 in a charge.
Lance 1 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 12.5 22.05
Lance 1(Haste) 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 12.5 22.05
Lance 2 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 3 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 4 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 5 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 6 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 7 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 8 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 9 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
Lance 10 16 0.6 23 0.05 2 8.5 19.41
DPR: 218.79
Not bad Tarantula
A couple of thoughts:
Both the summoner and the Eidolon are going to have to be careful about distance from each other so the eidolon doesn't get stuck with a sudden loss of HP. Also the HP of both is a bit low (not horribly so though) so they'll need to take care about the hits they take.
Also you left out the bite attack. It would be at a -2 penalty (on top of the multi weapon penalty) but would add in (1d6+3)x2 damage at the end of things. Kind of interesting with the lack of power attack but not horrible.
The summoner could possibly get in on the action too with his own phantom steed.
Not bad Tarantula
A couple of thoughts:
Both the summoner and the Eidolon are going to have to be careful about distance from each other so the eidolon doesn't get stuck with a sudden loss of HP. Also the HP of both is a bit low (not horribly so though) so they'll need to take care about the hits they take.
Also you left out the bite attack. It would be at a -2 penalty (on top of the multi weapon penalty) but would add in (1d6+3)x2 damage at the end of things. Kind of interesting with the lack of power attack but not horrible.
The summoner could possibly get in on the action too with his own phantom steed.
Definitely some weaknesses. The bite doesn't have reach, so I didn't really consider it. Its also at an additional -2 to hit, and only gets double damage. Even so, thats an extra 9.5 (if it hits). Though, once the eidolon has 14 ranks of ride (level 18 summoner) you can pick up mounted skirmisher, switch to Biped (for more str and arms) and then trade pounce for reach... Not a bad expansion possibility.
Worst case scenario, is the phantom steed gets killed. Summoner should also know the mount spell, to whip out new mounts for his buddy. Alternately, just have the eidolon carry a bunch of battleaxes/scimtars/other one handed melee weapons.
Yeah if I was facing it I would go with the "fog cloud, summon archons and kill it with fire from range".
Alright, here's the build thepuregamer inspired me to do.
tl;dr does over 200dps with just the eidolon making a charge.Going off this set of rules:
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Sorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
Sorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
max natural attack limit, they can do whatever with weapons
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max natural attack limit, they can do whatever with weaponsSorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
You can only swing as many weapons as you have arms.
It might be possible that they forgot to put a limit on the number of arms, but I think the intent is there.
max natural attack limit, they can do whatever with weaponsSorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
You can only swing as many weapons as you have arms.
It might be possible that they forgot to put a limit on the number of arms, but I think the intent is there.
Maybe but until an errata comes out he is completely correct -- the only limit is on [i]natural[/b] attacks currently and the text is rather specific on this point.
Maybe but until an errata comes out he is completely correct -- the only limit is on [i]natural[/b] attacks currently and the text is rather specific on this point.max natural attack limit, they can do whatever with weaponsSorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
You can only swing as many weapons as you have arms.
It might be possible that they forgot to put a limit on the number of arms, but I think the intent is there.
I figured that was the case when he decided to bring manufactured weapons into it. I hope it gets errata'd.
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I figured that was the case when he decided to bring manufactured weapons into it. I hope it gets errata'd.Maybe but until an errata comes out he is completely correct -- the only limit is on [i]natural[/b] attacks currently and the text is rather specific on this point.max natural attack limit, they can do whatever with weaponsSorry but Eidolon's have a max attack limit on them. You cannot get 10 attacks ever.
You can only swing as many weapons as you have arms.
It might be possible that they forgot to put a limit on the number of arms, but I think the intent is there.
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Bit late to the game and all, but I'm not going to let that stop me.
Ripoff, human monk weapon adept 10 (ripped off and modified Marvin’s build)
Incorporates brass knuckles and monk archetypes from the APG.
Ability Scores:
STR: 22 (+6) (15 base, +1 level, +2 racial, +4 belt)
DEX: 14 (+2)
CON: 12 (+1)
INT: 10 (+0)
WIS: 16 (+3) (13 base, +1 level, +2 hat)
CHA: 8 (-1)
HP: 78 HP (10d8+30)
Saving Throws
Fort: +11 Ref: +9 (Evasion) Will: +13
AC: 23 - Touch 20, Flatfooted 20 (+3 monk, +2 dex, +3 wis, +1 Dodge, +1 Ring of Protection, +2 armor, +1 natural)
Attacks: Brass Knuckles +20/+20/+15/+15 2d6+9 (19-20/x2)
Power Attacking: 17/17/12/12 2d6+15
Class Abilities:
Ki pool (7 points, magic and lawful attacks)
Perfect Strike
Weapon Focus
Weapon Specialization
Evasion
Slow Fall (50')
More stuff (I’m lazy too)
BAB: +7 (+10 with FOB) CMB: +14 CMD: 23
Feats:
Dodge
Deflect Arrows
Improved Grapple
Improved Critical (Brass Knuckles)
Weapon Focus (Brass Knuckles)
Weapon Specialization
Toughness
Power Attack
Improved Fort
Improved Will
Spider Step
Skills:
Some stuff, acrobatics, perception, ect.
Gear: (62,000 gp)
Belt of +4 str (16,000)
Hat of +2 wis (4,000)
Bracers of armor +2 (4,000)
Ring of Protection +1 (2,000)
Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (2,000)
Haversack (2,000)
Monk's Robe - (13,000)
Cloak of Resistance +1 (1,000)
Brass Knuckles +3 (18,000)
Flat Broke – 0 gold remaining
Ripoff has the following stats:
Without power attack, or a ki point attack, he deals ~16.83 on a standard attack, and average damage per round is ~57.42. With power attack, his average damage per round is ~60.72.
Add in a ki point for an extra attack, and his non-power attack damage per round is ~74.25. With power attack, it becomes ~79.2. With this scenario, his damage on his first attack w. power attack is ~18.48
Compared to Melvin1.2, he's dealing about 17 points of dpr more on vanilla attacks, and about 4 dpr more when burning through everything.
+1 attack is worth 2.64 dpr and +1 damage is worth 1.27 dpr. He's got the same ac, though the tradeoff for that is 10hp. The extra cost is from picking up a +3 weapon instead of a couple scrolls. I switched dex and con, however, the move to dex is so that Ripoff can pick up Elemental Fist at 11 or 13. By switching them back, I gain 10 hp, and I lose 1 ac. My saves are comparable, and I've got an unused feat slot, since the archetype gave me wf and weapon specialization for still mind.
The only thing that made me sad about this build was not getting the benefit of perfect strike, which I almost missed. With perfect strike, the max dpr went up to 89 points... *sigh*
With a 24-hour dpr of ~74.25, and some furious rounds at ~79.2, I’m pretty happy about how he turned out. Assuming I used the dpr spreadsheet correctly.
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It looks like Ripoff's attack sequence has an extra +2 in it somewhere. Based on what I am seeing it should be +8 (FOB BAB) +6 (Str) +3 (enhancement) +1 (WF) = +18, not +20. Am I overlooking something? On the other hand, I think you have his basic damage too low (it should be 2d6 + 11 [+6 Str, +3 enhancement, +2 Weap Spec] before Power Attack)
Also, when I run the numbers (at the +18 mark) I'm coming up with a DPR of roughly 50 before Power Attack (which looks it's just about the same) or ki points. I think something must be getting double counted. (Excluding crits, just for a scratch-paper comparison, if the attack is at +18 and is going for a 24 AC, that's a .75 chance to hit. Having a +13 to hit is a .5 chance, so the non-crit DPR starts at [.75 + .75 + .5 + .5] * 18 average damage, or 45 damage. There's no way crits are going to get you an additional +12 DPR...)
Bleh. Yeah, I'm sure I messed something up in the calculator now :p I'll fiddle around with it a bit in the next couple days and repost the numbers. Might just calculate it by hand instead :/
Has a clear cut winner emerged, or is it still up for debate? I'd also be curious to see what the numbers look like at level 20, I expect classes to rise and fall relative to one another between 10 and 20. . .
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The varying assumptions for some of the DPR calculations and constantly shifting baseline (as new rules material shows up) means it's hard to really find a "winner" per se. Basically, what I've taken away from this thread is that, if you want to really be a hardcore frontline damage dealer, you should be aiming for a non-buffed DPR of around ~60 at 10th level - getting a lot over that is awesome but might indicate a weakness in other areas due to overspecialization*, and too much under that means you're not enough of a threat for the kind of opponents you're likely to be facing.
*It doesn't have to mean that, of course. But I'd take a peek at whether there are some utility options you're overlooking nonetheless.
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Ok... summary post for the 16 pages of builds here.
First spoiler here is in chronological order. Format is:
Poster name: build name/description (class) DPR *additional notes*
Also note that these numbers reflect the current corrected totals where possible. Originally, I intended to keep the first post numbers and hit them with strikethrough, but I guess that's not an option. Therefore, dpr totals reflect the most accurate numbers available for a particular build.
A man in black: First Jack B. Nimble (rogue)entry was 15.90 without sneak attack, 45.65 with it.
A man in black: First Falchion Fred (fighter) entry was 59.25 to 60.11
A man in black: First Tempest Ted (fighter) entry was 53.46-53.60
A man in black: First Farshot Fallon (fighter) entry was 68.25
John Spalding: First Druid Dan (druid) entry was, combined with animal companion, 49 dpr without rakes to 80.6 dpr with rakes.
Hogarth: First Two-Weapon Thrower Alchemist (Alchemist) entry was 28.875 dpr to 48.125 dpr depending on range
Enlight_Bystand: First Sir Splodes-a-lot (evoker) entry using spell damage and a mephit was 70.16 to 76.74 twice a day
A Man in Black: First Melvin (monk) entry was 36.47 to 48.26
A Man In Black: First Clarissa (cleric) entry was 22.41 to 38.03 depending on whether divine favor is up or not
A Man In Black: Second Melvin 2.0 (monk) entry was 27.17 to 35.72
Ellington: First Wilbur the ¼ dragon (bard5/dragon disciple5) entry was not specifically stated
Treantmonk: Third Melvin 1.1 (monk) entry was 36.47 to 48.26
Treantmonk: Fourth Melvin 1.2 (monk) entry was 57.78 to 75.08
At this point, it was discovered that there were some errors in the above dpr calculations. Melvin 1.1 should have been dealing 32.73 to 43.31, however, the problem originated in Melvin 1.0 and migrated over. Melvin 1.0 should have been dealing 36.47 to 48.26.
Also at this point, it was realized that the previous builds were using incorrect Wealth By Level, with the result that most of them did not spend their full gear budget.
Angryscrub: First Hulky Mcrogueboy (rogue) entry was 25.2 without sneak attack, and 41.8 with sneak attack.
A Man in Black Fifth Melvin 1.1.2 (monk) entry 37.48 to 50.88
Treantmonk: Second Druid Dan (druid) entry 64.131 to 124.59
Angryscrub: first irving the incredibly inappropriate and inefficient half orc wizard (wizard) entry 40.56 DPR
Mealbolex: First ruh-roh the rogue (rogue) entry was a little difficult to follow. Single target dpr appears to be 17.1 to 36.23125
Angryscrub: first barack obarbarian (barbarian) entry 38.87 to 54.145
At this point, the dpr calculator from tejon made its appearance in the thread.
Angryscrub: second irving (wizard) entry 17.88 to 35
Angryscrub: first irving archer (wizard) entry 11.8 to 20.30 dpr
Dragonchess Player: first Brusier the Bard (bard/fighter) entry was not really comparable due to being calculated with a number of buffs that violated the precepts of the challenge, namely using a round to activate haste. Given time to buff, this build deals 28.5 to 69.875.
Dragonchess Player: first Shieldy Stan entry 36.25375 to 53.525
A Man In Black: first Pinpoint Patty (paladin) entry 41.70 to 106.5 depending heavily on an evil target.
A Man In Black: second tempest ted (fighter) entry 61.37
A Man In Black: first Two-Paw Pete (paladin) entry 31.40 to 99.13
Treantmonk: first Bill the Bow using Bard (bard) entry 48.18 without buffs, 84.82 with one round of buffs. Errors were pointed out in the math here, and the build was revised.
Treantmonk: second Bill the Bow using Bard (bard) entry 36.92 without buffs, 71.20 with one round of buffs.
Angryscrub: randy the ambiguously switch hitting ranger (ranger) 29.14 to 75.46 with favored enemy. This build doesn’t factor in the animal companion.
Turin the Mad: first Nekkid Bubba Hack-Toes (barbarian/fighter) entry 43.32 to 87.77 dpr
Dessic: first Barbara Barbarian entry 50.22 46.485 dpr
Hap Hazard: first Roger (ranger) entry 41.5 to 92
Zerothbase: first Elcurblian (revised falchion fred build) entry 71.66 DPR
Dragonchess Player: first Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 20.79 to 36.0625
Hogarth: second Barbara Barbarian (barbarian) entry 35.12 to 51.73
Tejon: second Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 28.7 to 40.3
Angryscrub: first Clark Cleric (cleric) entry 25.13 to 37.38 depending on divine favor
Dragonchess Player: first Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 28.2525 to 47.77625
Dragonchess Player: second Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 34.61125 to 56.46875
Dragonchess Player: third Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 36.28625 to 57.98875
Dragonchess Player: third Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 25.4625 to 47.38125
Zerothbase: first Unarmerd Strike Ulysses entry 47.80
Deathmaster: first summoner (summoner) entry 129.35 to 134.07
Dragonchess Player: first Tiger Tad (ranger) entry 52.372262 to 125.0572 with favored enemy.
Sarandosil: first Shirly the shuriken chucker (monk) entry 18.98 to 38.61 dpr
Quandary: first Chris Cuisinart (fighter/barbarian) entry 65.6 to 82.24
Quandary: first Curvy Camila (fighter/barbarian) entry 73.87 to 84.68
Loopy: first Inconceivable (wizard/rogue/arcane trickster) entry error in build
Tholas: first Raging Ralf (eldritch Knight) entry 44.43 to 62.47
MM178: first Eidolon (summoner) entry 283.5 DPR debatable use of rules
Treantmonk: first Jack B. Quick (fighter/rogue) entry 32.52 to 55.70
James maissen: first Mr Rouge entry 34.84 to 117.966 doesn’t follow the rules of the competition, using staves and boots of speed, also custom items
Grasshopper_ea: first Terran Stonehew (druid) entry 32.4-35.64
Angryscrub: first elven monk archer (monk) entry 25 dpr
Angryscrub: first staff monk (monk) entry 38.67
Angryscrub: first nunchaku monk (monk) entry 28.22
Angryscrub: first wis staff monk (monk) entry 22.17
Charender: first Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 64.7 some errors
Charender: second Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 72.6 dpr using variant/non core stuff and short duration buffs.
Charender: first Friar Tuck (cleric) entry 30.7 dpr using variant/non core stuff and short duration buffs.
Charender: third Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 58.1 dpr.
At this point, we had some revised/restated rules for the thread. Arguments ensued.
Zairos: first Patrick Fudge (fighter/duelist) entry 33.64 dpr
Charender: first Mistress of the Fey (sorcerer) entry 39.4 dpr
Ellington: first ray-ray, the ray-sorcerer (sorcerer) entry 54.34 to 71.84
Scipion del Ferro: first Sad Boomer (alchemist) entry 24.5 direct dpr, 12 splash dpr
Ellington: first Chemical Brother (alchemist) entry 55-78 dpr
MisterSlanky: first Issac the Inquisitor (inquisitor) entry 49.42 to 64.91
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers Offense (monk/duelist) entry 89.375 DPR – uses campaign setting feat
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers Balanced (monk/duelist) entry 76.8625 DPR – uses campaign setting feat
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers balanced (monk/duelist) entry 64.5656 dpr – does not use GMF
Caineach: first Bitey (Barbarian/Rogue) entry 27.95 to 77.79 rage and sneak attack
Caineach: second Bitey (Barbarian/Rogue) entry 30.19 to 80.55 rage and sneak attack
LoreKeeper: first Tower of Power (monk) entry 60.83 dpr uses stunning fist/shatter defenses to earn more attacks via medusa’s wrath, issues with stat array, frost/shock weapon, and non core monk feat
Sarandosil: first Jack B. Awesometastic (rogue) entry 30.42 dpr. Much higher with sneak attack and flanking 82.96, however above builds didn’t incorporate flanking bonuses and no calculation was given that provided parity.
Sarandosil: first Dagger Dan (fighter) entry 35.06
Big Stupid Fighter: first Inquisitor Ivanova (inquisitor) entry 35.505 to 161.4375 over the course of three rounds
RtrnofdMax: first Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem (barbarian) entry 78.98 dpr to 90.13 dpr. Some issues appeared and the build was revised.
RtrnofDMax: second Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem (barbarian) entry 59.37 to 86.38
Pinky’s Brain: first Kentaro Miura (summoner) entry 212.4 dpr – rules arguments ensued.
YawarFiesta: first Sigfreid (barbarian) entry 94.135 to 222.65 with charging.
Barcas: first Calvin the Cavalier (cavalier) entry 126.1
Carpy DM: first Howard the Hungry Ghost Monk (monk) entry 54.61
Merkatz: first Zeus (monk) entry 56.7 to 85.4196
Dementrius: first Norman, Master of the elven Curved Fruit (rogue) entry 37.7 dpr… with fruit…
Jasin: first unnamed (paladin) entry 26.33 to 68.51
Jasin: second unnamed (paladin) entry 28.40 to 133.24
LoreKeeper: first Magus (first playtest) entry 62.325 to 64.125 however, this magus used some mechanics incorrectly
LoreKeeper: revised Magus Darwin (first playtest) entry dpr 43 to 123 over the course of multiple rounds of combat, suffers from spell failure chance, uses non-standard pre-pathfinder feat
Nicklas Laessoe: first Rexxar the Invulnerable rager (barbarian) entry 121 dpr, however many errors were identified in the build
W0nkothesane: first Slinger Sam (figher) entry 38.64 dpr
Glade: first paladin archer entry 33.75 to 150.15 depending on evil targets
SoulGambit: first alchemist/chymist entry 100.25 to 126.17 dpr
Kaisc006: first Ned the Not So Ninja (inquisitor/ninja) entry 28.6 dpr. When flanking, 66.15 dpr. With buff round, 191.33 dpr.
Kaisc006: first Tiny Tim (ninja) entry 27.11 dpr. With flanking, 63.98 DPR.
Thepuregamer: first summoner entry 249.5 to 296.9 dpr, uses limited use items, doesn’t follow minimum save rules, exploits some rules vagueness. Much debate followed…
Thepuregamer: second summoner 2punchy 110.46 to 130.594 dpr, errors were found, build revised.
Abraham Spalding: first Camel Charlie (barbarian) entry 97.97 to 154.92 dpr, uses non-core feat and does not meet defense requirements
James Bolton: first Shasta (paladin/ninja) entry 14.52 dpr to 107.8 dpr, uses multiple swift actions
Thepuregamer third summoner punchy strike back entry 199.162 to 245.55, more debate about legality of the build.
Thepuregamer april 1st build reverse the ridden (summoner) entry 343.242, much, much more debate and argument follows. Revised, dpr remained the same. Then argument over wealth-by-level, and more issues with the build…
Gelmir: first Fal, (fighter/alchemist) entry 88.47
Tarantula: first summoner charge entry 218.79 while charging
Magicdealer: first Ripoff entry 74.25-79.2 dpr, build errors and dpr calculation errors
Here we have the top ten dpr builds, simply because people keep asking. I remind you that these *top* builds might not be playable in a real campaign or might be so specialized as to be marginal dpr 90% of the time. Also, there were a lot of entries. These *should* be the top 10.
Treantmonk: Second Druid Dan (druid) entry 64.131 to 124.59
A Man In Black: first Two-Paw Pete (paladin) entry 31.40 to 99.13
Dragonchess Player: first Tiger Tad (ranger) entry 52.372262 to 125.0572 with favored enemy.
YawarFiesta: first Sigfreid (barbarian) entry 94.135 to 222.65 with charging.
Barcas: first Calvin the Cavalier (cavalier) entry 126.1
Jasin: second unnamed entry 28.40 to 133.24
Glade: first paladin archer entry 33.75 to 150.15 depending on evil targets
SoulGambit: first alchemist/chymist entry 100.25 to 126.17 dpr
Tarantula: first summoner charge entry 218.79 while charging
Jasin: second unnamed (paladin) entry 28.40 to 133.24
And now, by class.
Hogarth: First Two-Weapon Thrower Alchemist (Alchemist) entry was 28.875 dpr to 48.125 dpr depending on range
Scipion del Ferro: first Sad Boomer (alchemist) entry 24.5 direct dpr, 12 splash dpr
Ellington: first Chemical Brother (alchemist) entry 55-78 dpr
Angryscrub: first barack obarbarian (barbarian) entry 38.87 to 54.145
Dragonchess Player: first Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 20.79 to 36.0625
Hogarth: second Barbara Barbarian (barbarian) entry 35.12 to 51.73
Tejon: second Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 28.7 to 40.3
Dragonchess Player: first Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 28.2525 to 47.77625
Dragonchess Player: second Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 34.61125 to 56.46875
Dragonchess Player: third Meirdrarel the Mad (barbarian) entry 36.28625 to 57.98875
Dragonchess Player: third Ahnuld the Axe (barbarian) entry 25.4625 to 47.38125
RtrnofdMax: first Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem (barbarian) entry 78.98 dpr to 90.13 dpr. Some issues appeared and the build was revised.
RtrnofDMax: second Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem (barbarian) entry 59.37 to 86.38
Nicklas Laessoe: first Rexxar the Invulnerable rager (barbarian) entry 121 dpr, however many errors were identified in the build
Abraham Spalding: first Camel Charlie (barbarian) entry 97.97 to 154.92 dpr, uses non-core feat and does not meet defense requirements
Dessic: first Barbara Barbarian entry 50.22 46.485 dpr
YawarFiesta: first Sigfreid (barbarian) entry 94.135 to 222.65 with charging.
Treantmonk: first Bill the Bow using Bard (bard) entry 48.18 without buffs, 84.82 with one round of buffs. Errors were pointed out in the math here, and the build was revised.
Treantmonk: second Bill the Bow using Bard (bard) entry 36.92 without buffs, 71.20 with one round of buffs.
Barcas: first Calvin the Cavalier (cavalier) entry 126.1
A Man in Black: First Melvin (monk) entry was 36.47 to 48.26
Angryscrub: first Clark Cleric (cleric) entry 25.13 to 37.38 depending on divine favor
Charender: first Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 64.7 some errors
Charender: second Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 72.6 dpr using variant/non core stuff and short duration buffs.
Charender: first Friar Tuck (cleric) entry 30.7 dpr using variant/non core stuff and short duration buffs.
Charender: third Corey Cleaver (cleric) entry 58.1 dpr.
John Spalding: First Druid Dan (druid) entry was, combined with animal companion, 49 dpr without rakes to 80.6 dpr with rakes.
Treantmonk: Second Druid Dan (druid) entry 64.131 to 124.59
Grasshopper_ea: first Terran Stonehew (druid) entry 32.4-35.64
A man in black: First Falchion Fred (fighter) entry was 59.25 to 60.11
A man in black: First Tempest Ted (fighter) entry was 53.46-53.60
A man in black: First Farshot Fallon (fighter) entry was 68.25
Dragonchess Player: first Shieldy Stan (fighter) entry 36.25375 to 53.525
A Man In Black: second tempest ted (fighter) entry 61.37
Zerothbase: first Elcurblian (revised falchion fred build) entry 71.66 DPR
Zerothbase: first Unarmerd Strike Ulysses (fighter) entry 47.80
Sarandosil: first Dagger Dan (fighter) entry 35.06
W0nkothesane: first Slinger Sam (fighter) entry 38.64 dpr
MisterSlanky: first Issac the Inquisitor (inquisitor) entry 49.42 to 64.91
Big Stupid Fighter: first Inquisitor Ivanova (inquisitor) entry 35.505 to 161.4375 over the course of three rounds
LoreKeeper: first Magus (first playtest) entry 62.325 to 64.125 however, this magus used some mechanics incorrectly
LoreKeeper: revised Magus Darwin (first playtest) entry dpr 43 to 123 over the course of multiple rounds of combat, suffers from spell failure chance, uses non-standard pre-pathfinder feat
A Man in Black: First Melvin (monk) entry was 36.47 to 48.26
A Man In Black: Second Melvin 2.0 (monk) entry was 27.17 to 35.72
Treantmonk: Third Melvin 1.1 (monk) entry was 36.47 to 48.26
Treantmonk: Fourth Melvin 1.2 (monk) entry was 57.78 to 75.08
A Man in Black Fifth Melvin 1.1.2 (monk) entry 37.48 to 50.88
Sarandosil: first Shirly the shuriken chucker (monk) entry 18.98 to 38.61 dpr
Angryscrub: first elven monk archer (monk) entry 25 dpr
Angryscrub: first staff monk (monk) entry 38.67
Angryscrub: first nunchaku monk (monk) entry 28.22
Angryscrub: first wis staff monk (monk) entry 22.17
LoreKeeper: first Tower of Power (monk) entry 60.83 dpr uses stunning fist/shatter defenses to earn more attacks via medusa’s wrath, issues with stat array, frost/shock weapon, and non core monk feat
Carpy DM: first Howard the Hungry Ghost Monk (monk) entry 54.61
Merkatz: first Zeus (monk) entry 56.7 to 85.4196
Magicdealer: first Ripoff entry 74.25-79.2 dpr, build errors and dpr calculation errors
Kaisc006: first Tiny Tim (ninja) entry 27.11 dpr. With flanking, 63.98 DPR.
A Man In Black: first Pinpoint Patty (paladin) entry 41.70 to 106.5 depending heavily on an evil target.
A Man In Black: first Two-Paw Pete (paladin) entry 31.40 to 99.13
Glade: first paladin archer entry 33.75 to 150.15 depending on evil targets
Jasin: first unnamed (paladin) entry 26.33 to 68.51
Jasin: second unnamed (paladin) entry 28.40 to 133.24
Angryscrub: randy the ambiguously switch hitting ranger (ranger) 29.14 to 75.46 with favored enemy. This build doesn’t factor in the animal companion.
Hap Hazard: first Roger (ranger) entry 41.5 to 92
Dragonchess Player: first Tiger Tad (ranger) entry 52.372262 to 125.0572 with favored enemy.
A man in black: First Jack B. Nimble (rogue)entry was 15.90 without sneak attack, 45.65 with it.
Angryscrub: First Hulky Mcrogueboy (rogue) entry was 25.2 without sneak attack, and 41.8 with sneak attack.
Mealbolex: First ruh-roh the rogue (rogue) entry was a little difficult to follow. Single target dpr appears to be 17.1 to 36.23125
Dementrius: first Norman, Master of the elven Curved Fruit (rogue) entry 37.7 dpr… with fruit…
James maissen: first Mr Rouge entry 34.84 to 117.966 doesn’t follow the rules of the competition, using staves and boots of speed, also custom items
Sarandosil: first Jack B. Awesometastic (rogue) entry 30.42 dpr. Much higher with sneak attack and flanking 82.96, however above builds didn’t incorporate flanking bonuses and no calculation was given that provided parity.
Charender: first Mistress of the Fey (sorcerer) entry 39.4 dpr
Ellington: first ray-ray, the ray-sorcerer (sorcerer) entry 54.34 to 71.84
Deathmaster: first summoner (summoner) entry 129.35 to 134.07
MM178: first Eidolon (summoner) entry 283.5 DPR debatable use of rules
Pinky’s Brain: first Kentaro Miura (summoner) entry 212.4 dpr – rules arguments ensued.
Thepuregamer: first summoner entry 249.5 to 296.9 dpr, uses limited use items, doesn’t follow minimum save rules, exploits some rules vagueness. Much debate followed…
Thepuregamer: second summoner 2punchy 110.46 to 125.083 130.594 dpr, errors were found, build revised.
Thepuregamer third summoner punchy strike back entry 199.162 to 245.55, more debate about legality of the build.
Thepuregamer april 1st build reverse the ridden (summoner) entry 343.242, much, much more debate and argument follows. Revised, dpr remained the same. Then argument over wealth-by-level, and more issues with the build…
Tarantula: first summoner charge entry 218.79 while charging
Enlight_Bystand: First Sir Splodes-a-lot (evoker) entry using spell damage and a mephit was 70.16 to 76.74 twice a day
Angryscrub: first irving the incredibly inappropriate and inefficient half orc wizard (wizard) entry 40.56 DPR
Angryscrub: second irving (wizard) entry 17.88 to 35
Angryscrub: first irving archer (wizard) entry 11.8 to 20.30 dpr
Ellington: First Wilbur the ¼ dragon (bard5/dragon disciple5) entry was not specifically stated
Dragonchess Player: first Brusier the Bard (bard/fighter) entry was not really comparable due to being calculated with a number of buffs that violated the precepts of the challenge, namely using a round to activate haste. Given time to buff, this build deals 28.5 to 69.875.
Turin the Mad: first Nekkid Bubba Hack-Toes (barbarian/fighter) entry 43.32 to 87.77 dpr
Quandary: first Chris Cuisinart (fighter/barbarian) entry 65.6 to 82.24
Quandary: first Curvy Camila (fighter/barbarian) entry 73.87 to 84.68
Loopy: first Inconceivable (wizard/rogue/arcane trickster) entry error in build
Tholas: first Raging Ralf (eldritch Knight) entry 44.43 to 62.47
Treantmonk: first Jack B. Quick (fighter/rogue) entry 32.52 to 55.70
Zairos: first Patrick Fudge (fighter/duelist) entry 33.64 dpr
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers Offense (monk/duelist) entry 89.375 DPR – uses campaign setting feat
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers Balanced (monk/duelist) entry 76.8625 DPR – uses campaign setting feat
LoreKeeper: first Synthia Sharpfingers balanced (monk/duelist) entry 64.5656 dpr – does not use GMF
Caineach: first Bitey (Barbarian/Rogue) entry 27.95 to 77.79 rage and sneak attack
Caineach: second Bitey (Barbarian/Rogue) entry 30.19 to 80.55 rage and sneak attack
Gelmir: first Fal, (fighter/alchemist) entry 88.47
James Bolton: first Shasta (paladin/ninja) entry 14.52 dpr to 107.8 dpr, uses multiple swift actions
SoulGambit: first alchemist/chymist entry 100.25 to 126.17 dpr
Kaisc006: first Ned the Not So Ninja (inquisitor/ninja) entry 28.6 dpr. When flanking, 66.15 dpr. With buff round, 191.33 dpr.
Keep being wonderful to one another :)
a few things and someone more game knowledgeable can correct me if I'm wrong but. to get +2 for gmf it only affects one natural weapon. if you want it to affect all it's +1. secondly since you are not a monk it dies not affect unarmed strike far as I can tell.
I'm not sure how your getting the damage you gave given with the kick alll your attacks become secondary.
so d3 +8 d6 +4 etc. presumably doesn't equal 75 dpr. but I suspect I'm missing something.
a few things and someone more game knowledgeable can correct me if I'm wrong but. to get +2 for gmf it only affects one natural weapon. if you want it to affect all it's +1. secondly since you are not a monk it dies not affect unarmed strike far as I can tell.
I'm not sure how your getting the damage you gave given with the kick alll your attacks become secondary.
so d3 +8 d6 +4 etc. presumably doesn't equal 75 dpr. but I suspect I'm missing something.
Greater magic fang affects unarmed strikes, here is the PRD link.
Weighing in with a partial entry based on a UM Vivisec combined with Master Chymist. Can anyone point out if I've gone wrong with math anywhere? :)
Human 7 Vivisectionist / 3 Master Chymist
Strength 15 +2 Human +1 Level = 18
Dexterity 13 +1 Level = 14
Constitution 12
Intelligence 14
Wisdom 10
Charisma 8
Feats: 2 spare at 1st level, Power Attack, Furious Focus, Weapon Focus (Claw), Rending Claws
Discoveries: Feral Mutagen, 2 x Preserve Organs
Advanced Mutagen: Furious Mutagen
Other: Brutality +2, Mutagen (+4 Str, +2 Nat Arm, -2 Int)
Items: Amulet of Mighty Fists +2, Belt of Giant Strength +4
Self Buffs: Heroism Extract (+2 to Attack, Saves and Skills)
Final Strength: 18 +4 Mutagen +4 Belt = 26 for +8 bonus
Damage Bonus = 8 Str +2 Amulet +2 Brutality = 12
Full Attack: +21 / +21 / +20 for 1d8+12 / 1d8+12 / 1d10+12
Power Attack: +21 / +18 / +17 for 1d8+18 / 1d8+18 / 1d10+18
% and Av Dam: 90% / 75% / 70% for 22.5 / 22.5 / 23.5
Total: 20.25 / 16.87 / 16.45 = 53.57
Rending Claws: 90% x 75% x 1d6 = 2.36
Crits: 1.01 / 0.84 / 0.82 = 2.67
Grand Total: 53.57 + 2.36 + 2.67 = 58.6
Final DPR for full power attack = 58.6
Add in Sneak Attack (@5d6 assuming that Master Chymist advances sneak attack of Vivisec) without any flanking bonus and that brings it up to a DRP of 99.72
Comes out looking pretty good, and in play terms will get even better when you can add in things like Beast Shape, Rage, etc.
You can't take furious mutagen at 10th level (must have an equivalent to 11th level). Other than that everything looks good to me.
What are your defenses looking like?
Doh! - knew I'd screw something up :) At least it doesn't drop the damage too much.
I haven't fully statted out the rest of him for defenses and saves. I think that he's going to have a fairly crappy will save for starters, but the rest should be 'ok' without being great.
Weighing in with a partial entry based on a UM Vivisec combined with Master Chymist. Can anyone point out if I've gone wrong with math anywhere? :)
Human 7 Vivisectionist / 3 Master Chymist
I didn't check over the math, but did you consider taking the Vestigial Arm discovery a couple of times? That should allow you to do something like 2-handed weapon + claw + claw + bite.
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AC: 21 (10 +2(Dex) +1(Wis) +1(RoP) +1(AoNA) +3(BoA) +3(Monk)Feats:
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1) Weapon Focus (Temple Sword)Items: 62,000gp* (See below on pricing)
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+5 Temple Sword 37,500
+3 Temple Sword
Vicious
Ki Focus
Questions, comments, concerns? =)
spending over half your wealth on a weapon, having only a 21 ac, and weapon focus has a bab pre req of +1
Also a +5 temple sword is 50,000....
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Oops, swap Weapon Focus to a later slot - it doesn't matter too much. I forgot in what order I snagged which Feats.
Ah, and I put an asterisk by the character's item build. I continued to use my X-Crawl specific build costs for this character, meaning we more or less could have almost all items crafted for us, meaning the items only counted 75% of their value. Apart from that (Meaning I spent slightly more on items then most characters - 81,000 to be exact. This could easily be had by just finding a few items yourself.) I believe this build isn't cheesy or beardy, especially considered against some of the whacky ones posted here. =)
Chop it to a +4, save some good money, and DPS won't drop too substantially. The build still is focused around the 17-20 Crit range, which enables it's sustainability.
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al of the feats that arent monk bonus feats have a pre req BAB of atleast 1. you dont qualify for any feat you have listed at 1st level other than Dodge and monk bonus feats. there is no legal combination of your proposed feats at this level.pick a new 1st level feat. or ditch improved crit, power attack, or step up and strike and replace it with weapon focus.
since every non bonus feat but dodge has a BAB 1 pre req, you cant just switch around the order of them. you dont qualify for any of your "good" feats at 1st level
the build is invalid as written
Their really isn't that much immune to crits, I wouldn't call this highly specialized, just not as useful against a handful of enemies.
So if you fix the feat issue and drop the +5 to a +4, then recalculate DPR you should be good. And by the way crafting is for cherry picking items, not increasing WBL.
I didn't think monks started being proficient with temple sword.