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What happens when the blue men meet the greenmen?

First, not all forms of social control are meant to be insulting, disrespectful, or to keep people from talking about what they need to talk about. It may be quite healthy and useful, as Yoda noted.

Second, TD, it's spelled smurfony. I thought you of all people would know that.


Brix wrote:

UPDATE:

In order to make it easier for me to file your ideas and solutions about how to pimp WotC please refer to the following topics only:

* 4E (WoW-like game not liked by many)
* Licence issues (OGL, GSL)
* Setting support (e.g. New Forgotten Realms alienating old fans)
* pdf policy
* Layoffs of fan favorite designers
* Cancellation of print magazines
* D&D Insider

Thanks.

  • General:
    If they want me back as a customer, they have to change their attitude.

  • 4e:
    Well, the 4e ship has sailed for me. I don't like the game, and that cannot be changed. Should they do change their attitude, they can ask me what I'd want for 5e, though.

  • License issues:
    The GSL is a joke. Maybe the OGL was too open, but if they want anyone seriously considering to use the GSL, it needs to be fair. Salient points are that
  • You don't have to forswear using OGL or anything else
  • If you agree to the contract, you agree to the contract as it is posted at the time. If they change the contract, that only applies to future products.
  • The contract is granted in perpetuitiy, at least as far as selling existing products is concerned. If they want to stop you using it to do new stuff, so be it (won't earn brownie points with me), but that Sword of Damocles must go
  • Give people some leeway in changing the system to their needs. They need not create another license that lets people run away with the game and create their own version (that doesn't need the core books)

  • Settings:
    Are pretty much a done deal for me, too. Golarion's my new "home". They would have to do a "It has all been a bad dream" thing and discard all that stuff past, say DR 1375 or so, for me to get back into the Realms.

  • PDF policy:
    Get back all older edition PDFs to show us that wizards doesn't want older editions gone to support their current stuff. And I do mean PDFs. Watermarks are OK, but not DRM or similar nonsense. Alter the contracts so that downloads already bought can never be taken away again.

    What they do with 4e is of no concern to me, though they should put them back, too. They must see that it won't stop pirates, so instead of discouraging piracy (by discouraging honest customers as well), they need to encourage patronage.

    For later editions (if they do want me back as a customer for 5e), PDFs need to come back, and they should take an example from Paizo and offer good deals for Print+PDF, as they have promised.

  • Mags:
    Another ship that has sailed. I don't think that they'll give them back to Paizo, and they wouldn't want them, anyway. But getting back print versions would go a way in restoring my faith to the company.

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    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.


    David Fryer wrote:


    Two points. First, changing a persons words because you disagree with them is a very juvenile behavior to engage in. As several anti-smvrf bigots have said, if you don't like the comment ignore it.

    How about you take your own advice, and ignore comments and threads you don't like?

    And really, since I hate the little blue idiots, why should I not change your words so I don't add one to the thread? It's not as if your intent was changed in any way.

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    Deleted because of snarky comments.


    I don't have issues with you complaining about people objecting to the little blue idiots - I have issues with people who preach water ("Ignore what you don't like!") and drink wine (complain about other posts). Since you fall among such hypocrites, I have issues with you.


    Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

    Hey, KaeYoss,

    Just wanted to thank you for reminding me about the thing White Wolf was doing offering free PDFs of their rules through Drivethru RPG. Snagged Exalted and will look into it later. Suspect it might be a bit over-the-top for me, but I'm curious, at least.

    Dark Archive

    Just remember, think before you post. That way you don't end up pulling down you comments and flagging yourself later.


    David Fryer wrote:
    Just remember, think before you post. That way you don't end up pulling down you comments and flagging yourself later.

    Flagging myself? I think you are mistaken. I stand behind what I posted - I told you to take your own advice. I just explained it out since you seemed to have misunderstood it.

    But in case you have missed it: I consider you a hypocrite, since you tell others to do (ignore posts they do not like) what you won't do yourself. I do hope you will amend your behaviour.

    Dark Archive

    Fuchs wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Just remember, think before you post. That way you don't end up pulling down you comments and flagging yourself later.

    Flagging myself? I think you are mistaken. I stand behind what I posted - I told you to take your own advice. I just explained it out since you seemed to have misunderstood it.

    But in case you have missed it: I consider you a hypocrite, since you tell others to do (ignore posts they do not like) what you won't do yourself. I do hope you will amend your behaviour.

    I believe he was referring to himself..


    Fuchs, I think you will find David a reasonable guy, if you stick to behaviors. Tell him what you don't like and why. Name-calling doesn't seem constructive to me.

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    Smurf?

    Dark Archive

    Fuchs wrote:


    But in case you have missed it: I consider you a hypocrite, since you tell others to do (ignore posts they do not like) what you won't do yourself. I do hope you will amend your behaviour.

    Just so we are clear, I only responded to your original comment because you singled me out for a personal attack. Otherwise I would have ignored your comment like I have so many others in this thread. This thread really needs to go bye-bye.

    Dark Archive

    Sebastian wrote:
    Smurf?

    Jawohl.. the smurf is great..

    Dark Archive

    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    Fuchs, I think you will find David a reasonable guy, if you stick to behaviors. Tell him what you don't like and why. Name-calling doesn't seem constructive to me.

    Thanks, but I don't need your help you moldy pile of mulch. ;p

    Edit: That is why I put my name on everything I sell.


    Oh...you need all KINDS of help, though perhaps not this kind.

    Greenmen, like most dwellers in the realm of Faerie, are mysterious creatures, little understood. But when dragons, don't get us--that's just sad. ;)

    Perhaps it is time I called for another minion.

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    Fuchs wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Just remember, think before you post. That way you don't end up pulling down you comments and flagging yourself later.

    Flagging myself? I think you are mistaken. I stand behind what I posted - I told you to take your own advice. I just explained it out since you seemed to have misunderstood it.

    But in case you have missed it: I consider you a hypocrite, since you tell others to do (ignore posts they do not like) what you won't do yourself. I do hope you will amend your behaviour.

    Ooh! That is some rigtheous indignation! I for one will amend my behavior!

    Spoiler:

    Smurf!


    Smurf reporting for duty!

    The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flagged yourself? Either that, or I'm so confused. This is one of the things I like about David, he's lawful good. If he were a cop and found himself speeding, he'd pull over and write himself a ticket.

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    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flagged yourself?

    Yep. I took a what alignment are you quiz and I really was Lawful Good. Which is funny because I usually play Chaotic Good.

    The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

    David Fryer wrote:
    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flagged yourself?

    Yep. I took a what alignment are you quiz and I really was Lawful Good.

    I always come out as chaotic good.

    See, these alignment quizzes really do work!

    Scarab Sages

    Fuchs wrote:


    But in case you have missed it: I consider you a hypocrite, since you tell others to do (ignore posts they do not like) what you won't do yourself. I do hope you will amend your behaviour.
    David Fryer wrote:
    Just so we are clear, I only responded to your original comment because you singled me out for a personal attack. Otherwise I would have ignored your comment like I have so many others in this thread. This thread really needs to go bye-bye.

    The thread doesn't need to go away - perhaps some people need to step away, though. Including those who are smvrfcrapping it. If you don't want to participate in the conversation, then go create a whole thread in which you can invoke the name of the three-apple-high blue freaks and giggle yourself silly.

    Maybe the toy should be taken away if you can't play with it responsibly...

    Dark Archive

    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flagged yourself?

    Yep. I took a what alignment are you quiz and I really was Lawful Good.

    I always come out as chaotic good.

    See, these alignment quizzes really do work!

    I always come out as lawful evil.. just sayin..


    I'm curious, HMarcBower, what do you see as still needing discussion that hasn't been discussed?


    Hm... Schlumpf!

    There, it doesn't work! That's linguism!

    Drakli wrote:

    Hey, KaeYoss,

    Just wanted to thank you for reminding me about the thing White Wolf was doing offering free PDFs of their rules through Drivethru RPG. Snagged Exalted and will look into it later. Suspect it might be a bit over-the-top for me, but I'm curious, at least.

    No problem! Doesn't have to be that good for the price, really. And if you don't have any WoD/ST stuff yet, you get to look at the ruleset at least (I think the ST d10 pool mechanic is quite nice)

    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flag yourself?

    It would be a lot funnier if you bait yourself into flaming yourself and THEN flagging yourself, maybe also getting yourself banned for a couple of days.

    Because then, you'd have time to attend the therapy you so desperately need ;-P

    As someone who can attend group therapy all by myself, I know how it is.

    And so do I.

    Me, too.

    Not to mention me.

    I'm good, though, bot those other guys are barking mad.


    Tarren Dei wrote:


    I always come out as chaotic good.

    See, these alignment quizzes really do work!

    When I take one I always come out as PUNK!!!!!

    I once took the "what lawful alignment are you" and it came out as chaotic.

    I think myself of Chaotic Neutral with strong Chaotic tendencies.

    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

    Oh...you need all KINDS of help, though perhaps not this kind.

    Greenmen, like most dwellers in the realm of Faerie, are mysterious creatures, little understood.

    That's they gather nuts, like most dwellers of the forest, and store them in their cheeks.

    Dark Archive

    KaeYoss wrote:

    Hm... Schlumpf!

    There, it doesn't work! That's linguism!

    Huh?

    You mean Linguini? Isn't this is italian pasta?

    frumS

    Hah, does not work either, that is Writefromleftorightism!


    KaeYoss wrote:


    That's they gather nuts, like most dwellers of the forest, and store them in their cheeks.

    That's only half true...and then not in the way you think. I'd like to say more, but then you'd never be allowed to leave the forest.

    Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Tarren Dei wrote:
    David Fryer wrote:
    Deleted and flagged by author for angry rants.

    You flagged yourself?

    Yep. I took a what alignment are you quiz and I really was Lawful Good.

    I always come out as chaotic good.

    See, these alignment quizzes really do work!

    I come out as Lawful Good, but I'm evil. Ask any of my ex-wives.

    Spoiler:
    smurf

    Scarab Sages

    KaeYoss wrote:
    I think myself of Chaotic Neutral with strong Chaotic tendencies.

    I like to think of myself as Antonio Banderas, only better looking.

    :P

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    hmarcbower wrote:


    The thread doesn't need to go away - perhaps some people need to step away, though. Including those who are smvrfcrapping it. If you don't want to participate in the conversation, then go create a whole thread in which you can invoke the name of the three-apple-high blue freaks and giggle yourself silly.

    Maybe the toy should be taken away if you can't play with it responsibly...

    Clearly, you don't understand what the point of smvrfing is.

    If you want, I can respond and be on topic. There's a lot of flame bait in this thread, and believe me, I can respond to such bait and give out a blistering response that will really make people question whether this community is a kind and friendly place or a worse sewer than the WotC forums. I can turn this into the flamewar that some so desperately want to start, and one way or another, this thread will get locked as a result. We can go down that path.

    Or, I can turn the other cheek and smvrf in response to the flame bait. I can try and keep the flamebait posts hidden and communicate to people that we don't particularly like flamewars here at Paizo by keeping it friendly and silly. Sure, I could be a bigger person than that and just not post at all, but you know what, I'm not lawful good. I'm chaotic evil and a raging a&&$+*@ to boot. I love to throw down in a flame war. I'm happy to oblige.

    But, I'm here as Paizo's guest, and I intend to act like that guest. So when I see flame bait, I give a smvrf in response. I try to do my part to keep this community friendly, and part of that is smvrfing instead of being a raging a~#$!++ and part of that is smvrfing those who are being raging a#$@**$s.

    Most of the complaining about smvrfing is being done by those whose bait is not being taken. The number of legitimate posts (and dear god, how much can there be left to say on a particular topic after 30 pages) that remain are few and far between. Mostly, people are just getting their WotC rage on, which just leads to flamewars.

    If you deem that to be the misuse of "toys," I guarantee I can find new, fun ways to post and be silly to keep a gasoline doused thread away from open flame. Or I can pull out my own napalm and get to work. Which do you prefer?

    Liberty's Edge

    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    I'm curious, HMarcBower, what do you see as still needing discussion that hasn't been discussed?

    There's people who don't hang around the boards, who are going to discover this when they go to redownload B4 or something for a game in two days; they are going to straggle in over the next few weeks, wonder what happened, and then blow their tops...

    Let's just hope Sebastian is here to protect us from them. ;)
    (couldn't resist)

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    Heathansson wrote:
    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    I'm curious, HMarcBower, what do you see as still needing discussion that hasn't been discussed?

    There's people who don't hang around the boards, who are going to discover this when they go to redownload B4 or something for a game in two days; they are going to straggle in over the next few weeks, wonder what happened, and then blow their tops...

    Let's just hope Sebastian is here to protect us from them. ;)
    (couldn't resist)

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f~%+ing sense.

    Dark Archive

    Oh smurf.. did this thread get serious again?

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    I smurfing hope not.

    Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

    Sebastian wrote:

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f#~%ing sense.

    You can ride yourself! That's knightly efficiency, there.

    Sovereign Court

    Am I still an accursed smurfpostate?

    edit
    Hooray! I am smurfy again!

    Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

    yoda8myhead wrote:
    Sebastian wrote:

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f#~%ing sense.

    You can ride yourself! That's knightly efficiency, there.

    I'm not that flexible, and if I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

    Scarab Sages

    Jason Beardsley wrote:
    Oh smurf.. did this thread get serious again?

    Smurftastic.

    The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

    Okay, I'm a wee, wee bit sorry that smurfing offends you. Generally, it is a way of saying, "keep it clean / don't get too hostile / don't turn this into a flamewar." If you are wondering why people don't just ignore a thread that is getting hostile instead, then look up in the right-hand corner of this post ... no, a little higher ... there. See that "flag" button. That didn't used to be there. It got put there because there were too many jackasses bringing endless edition/playtest wars to these boards. That, and Sebastian.

    That is why we smurf.

    Spoiler:

    When all else fails, blame Sebastian. Love ya, bro.

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    Sebastian wrote:
    Heathansson wrote:
    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    I'm curious, HMarcBower, what do you see as still needing discussion that hasn't been discussed?

    There's people who don't hang around the boards, who are going to discover this when they go to redownload B4 or something for a game in two days; they are going to straggle in over the next few weeks, wonder what happened, and then blow their tops...

    Let's just hope Sebastian is here to protect us from them. ;)
    (couldn't resist)

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f@~&ing sense.

    Actually it makes more sense then I care to think about. Of course I can see the horse barns from my classroom, so go figure.

    Dark Archive

    Robert Hawkshaw wrote:

    Am I still an accursed smurfpostate?

    edit
    Hooray! I am smurfy again!

    Dude, are you serious? I frikin saw that.. how the heck..?

    edit: okay seriously.. this is the 4th time in 2 days i've got the female smurf..

    Dark Archive

    Tarren Dei wrote:

    Okay, I'm a wee, wee bit sorry that smurfing offends you. Generally, it is a way of saying, "keep it clean / don't get too hostile / don't turn this into a flamewar." If you are wondering why people don't just ignore a thread that is getting hostile instead, then look up in the right-hand corner of this post ... no, a little higher ... there. See that "flag" button. That didn't used to be there. It got put there because there were too many jackasses bringing endless edition/playtest wars to these boards. That, and Sebastian.

    That is why we smurf.

    Is that what it's for? I thought it was to run up the white flag and surrender. Epic fail. ;-p

    Liberty's Edge

    Sebastian wrote:
    Heathansson wrote:
    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    I'm curious, HMarcBower, what do you see as still needing discussion that hasn't been discussed?

    There's people who don't hang around the boards, who are going to discover this when they go to redownload B4 or something for a game in two days; they are going to straggle in over the next few weeks, wonder what happened, and then blow their tops...

    Let's just hope Sebastian is here to protect us from them. ;)
    (couldn't resist)

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f%#*ing sense.

    Oh, I'll be the first to admit that my horse has nightmare in the lines.

    Sovereign Court

    I like the direction that Brix has taken to contact Mr. Leeds.

    I have been told on occasion that I am idealistic, but I believe that sometimes communication breaks down, and oftentimes it is the end user who can best describe the charlie foxtrot to the CEO or president of a company.

    My 2cp.

    Kudos for getting some direct-speak on!


    Tharen the Damned wrote:


    frumS

    Hah, does not work either, that is Writefromleftorightism!

    frumS

    Works for me!


    I think the thread topic has become several smaller issues that people are already discussing elsewhere.

    This conversation has become about a misunderstanding upthread and lost all value. I'm sorry that I clicked the link, and I'm sorry I kept reading thinking it might get back on topic.


    Sebastian wrote:

    Can I borrow your white horse? ;)

    Edit: Wait. I am a horse. That doesn't make any f&#!ing sense.

    Get a stable you two.

    Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
    KaeYoss wrote:


    That's they gather nuts, like most dwellers of the forest, and store them in their cheeks.

    That's only half true...and then not in the way you think.

    No? Because I was thinking some very naughty things.

    Tee hee hee, I said dweller!

    Dark Archive

    The more you try to get rid of smvrfs, the more they show up. It's the curse of the boards.


    Tarren Dei wrote:


    That is why we smurf.

    We smurf because we care.

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