This is the place to discuss the characters of the second Barakus party and generally anything about the campaign.
I've taken a quick look at your backgrounds and I like it, but there are some small snags that we'll have to work out.
Haun, from your description I'd say you are Alryan (as most city-dwellers of these parts), but Barbarian is not a favored class for them. You could get around that by declaring yourself mixed-race (default human). It's not a big deal but you'd have to work it in your description. If Shisumo is reading this, it would be nice if Sandros would acknowledge your acquaintance. But just go ahead and flesh out your character. I'll get back to you with some more background.
Radavel, your character is a little trickier (but intriguing). From the description you would definitely be Viridian. (Viridistan is just a such great evil empire in decline as you describe.) The biggest thing about them is that they are green-skinned. The common Viridians are really heavily mixed with Tharbrians, so it's just a green tinge, but I'm not sure if you are comfortable with that. It could be really cool, though. They are listed as having Fighter and Rogue as favored classes, but I could easily add sorcerer. The only disadvantage really is that you would have Viridian as your native language and have to spend a language to learn Common.
The most interesting thing would be to see how you two know each other.
The background's kinda general I am not that familiar with the setting. I have no problem with green tinged skin though I'd like to take advantage of the benefits of having sorcerer as my favored class.
Good. You are of viridian stock then, and you can keep sorcerer as your favored class. You get Knowledge local (Viridistan) as a free class skill. I'll get back to you concerning the background as soon as the others catch up.
Found it!
Alright So could I be like 1/4 Orc or something lol or have some Giant blood in me or what not? Does this mean I cant be human? I'm cool with whatever, I just need to know what that means about my race? I will have a full character sheet up after I get back from school around 3, so 4 or 5.
Hey Radavel how would you like these two characters to know each other? I was thinking that the big man helps Hessiah in something like a bar brawl, or something and Hessiah takes to him as a pet or something. I dont know I just kinda thought of that right now so, anyway cant wait to here what you come up with!
So I'll be back tonight with a full character sheet, and better background.
Found it!
Alright So could I be like 1/4 Orc or something lol or have some Giant blood in me or what not? Does this mean I cant be human?
No, no, mixed blood in Wilderlands only means that you are not of one particular human race, like Hessiah is Viridian. Alryans get a +1 to Diplomacy, for example. You will just be default human.
Haun, from your description I'd say you are Alryan (as most city-dwellers of these parts), but Barbarian is not a favored class for them. You could get around that by declaring yourself mixed-race (default human). It's not a big deal but you'd have to work it in your description. If Shisumo is reading this, it would be nice if Sandros would acknowledge your acquaintance.
"Brock?" Sandros laughs. "A temper like a warthog in heat, but otherwise one of the best men I've known. Solid, strong, good for a laugh, and always making sure I didn't miss that beauty just because I happened to be looking at this one." He sighs. "our friendship is, perhaps, a relic of my youth, but why else do we collect relics, if not to remind us of what we have been in the past?"
Hey This is Brock check him out and tell me what you think?
Welcome all, to some crazy fun. BT is doing a great job on our side.
He made mention of the little cartography page I whipped up. It is no Mona Lisa, but seems to work for us. If you want to take a look at it you can do so following this link.
Good luck. Heh heh heh. You'll need it.
We are still only three people ?
I guess I'll wait to see if we have any others vict..volunteers to join before posting a character
Yes, three if you are still interested.
So I got my character together! (this is Haun) what are we waiting for let go kill something!!!!
The images of the Gray Mouser and Ffhard come to mind.
That's what I thought of too. Your alignments are rather different, though, so I'd like you to have some firmer connection that bonds you together. Roylenna and Grond is an admirable example.
And as I've said before, if you get another player, I'm good to go. So if robin will join us, I'll get some action started. You may have to do without a cleric, but that can be solved.
Ideally you would have some kind of connection to the newly arrived slum-working lawful good priest of Asclepius, father Beamus Cain. If you could work that in, I think you could get some free healing there.
Presenting Juliare.
Tom , I didn't finalize his equipments since I didn't know how much gold he can have
I assume we begin in Warwick .
Any 'wanted' posters around ?
Presenting Juliare.
Tom , I didn't finalize his equipments since I didn't know how much gold he can haveI assume we begin in Warwick .
Any 'wanted' posters around ?
You start with the standard amount: 5d6*10. Use invisible castle or take the average.
I assume we begin in Warwick .
Any 'wanted' posters around ?
Why, yes. Fell Tarmick, the leader of the Green Tree bandits, who have become a major nuisance lately, is wanted dead or alive. The reward is 500 gp.
Yeah I love Fritz Leiber books, I'm down to do that. Have you thought out at all how we know each other, or did you want to roleplay that, or am I missing something?
I'm easy either way.
You start with the standard amount: 5d6*10. Use invisible castle or take the average.
Why, yes. Fell Tarmick, the leader of the Green Tree bandits, who have become a major nuisance lately, is wanted dead or alive. The reward is 500 gp.
5d6 → [6,1,1,6,1] = (15) = 150 gp . All done
Ok , since they are bandits , I guess I'll go ask the priest if there are survivors of the attacks who can describe the gang ?
Also I would like to know what would be a proof of their demise ?
I don't know a thing about Barakus or the Wilderlands, but I can pick it up.
I'm thinking of a halfling cleric with air and animal or air and weather domains!
Either sounds excellent. The campaign setting is pretty generic, so I doubt there will be any problems. Right now I'm just wondering about what alignment you will be.
Just wanted to let you know how I reason regarding alignment and background. You don't need to be nice, but I'd like you to be heroic (and that goes for all of you).
Right now I'm looking at two lawful neutrals who seem to be leaning towards evil one chaotic good character and one as yet unknown. I don't mind some playful banter, but I need you to work well together, whether your loyalty to each other is based on honor, old friendship or just expediency.
Also I hope that you would mix reasonably well with the other party, should it come to that, either because we lose players or because there is an epic battle to fight.
If we can get a little Fritz Leiber feel to this campaign, that would be excellent. That's exactly the tone I'm aiming for.
So just give your backgrounds some thought and see how they might mesh. I could just throw you together in the first encounter, but you seem a little to badly matched to really stick together. It would help if you had some kind of tie between you. As for the three characters detailed so far, you all seem to be outcasts in one way or another, and might have found common ground in that.
Ok , since they are bandits , I guess I'll go ask the priest if there are survivors of the attacks who can describe the gang
You can get a fairly good description of Fell Tarmick from Bragger Bondhome, the captain of the guard, who was the one that posted the award. The rest of the bandits are rather unknown but they are the only ones to be known to operate close to Warwik.
But please save any further investigations for the IC thread that I will open shortly.
Shortly after Brock made out for his grand adventure he realized he didn't know where to start. Did you go to an adventuring agent? Was there a sign leading to the bad guy? Brock quickly decided he needed help. He would need someone to do most of the talking, mapping, healing, well anything that didnt have to deal with a Great Axe, and ale. So Brock made his way to the bars, which is when he found (Radavel Charcater) take it away Radavel! if this is what your thinking?
Just some questions before beginning :
What culture and century would be the more exact template for the setting ?
Some examples to my mind :
Paizo world is a 18th century culture with some 20th century sensibilities concerning women rights/child education .
Eberron is more 19th century to me
Forgotten is a mismatch
Bloodright was more medieval to me
I can play with either but while Juliare can be a bit rough , he is nevertheless a part of the society he was educated in .
If you can , please give a country equivalent for Warwick : French 19th was different from Africa 19th which was also different from Wild West 19th .
Don't worry , for my part , I know the difference between LN and LE.
Please note that LN is the starting alignment for Juliare . Personnally I think some can change his view of the world as long as the evolution is consistent depending of who he encounters and what happens to him.
I read the diaries of our distinguished colleagues . So far, it's pure Necromancer with the twist that they really are goody-goody ( well except for Grond and Dwarf Berserker/Mercenary guy/Glory seeking chick ... Yhe first encounter between our group might go either way , I guess.
Just some questions before beginning :
What culture and century would be the more exact template for the setting ?
Some examples to my mind :
Paizo world is a 18th century culture with some 20th century sensibilities concerning women rights/child education .
Eberron is more 19th century to me
Forgotten is a mismatch
Bloodright was more medieval to me
I can play with either but while Juliare can be a bit rough , he is nevertheless a part of the society he was educated in .
If you can , please give a country equivalent for Warwick : French 19th was different from Africa 19th which was also different from Wild West 19th .Don't worry , for my part , I know the difference between LN and LE.
Please note that LN is the starting alignment for Juliare . Personnally I think some can change his view of the world as long as the evolution is consistent depending of who he encounters and what happens to him.I read the diaries of our distinguished colleagues . So far, it's pure Necromancer with the twist that they really are goody-goody ( well except for Grond and Dwarf Berserker/Mercenary guy/Glory seeking chick ... Yhe first encounter between our group might go either way , I guess.
I'm afraid I can't really answer your questions. I never considered D&D the equivalent of any existing epoch. This campaign is rather generic old-school D&D fantasy, I suppose. Don't know what you would consider that.
I read the diaries of our distinguished colleagues . So far, it's pure Necromancer with the twist that they really are goody-goody
"And your point by that, good sir?" Sandros quirks an inquiring eyebrow.
Robin,
I can understand why Black Tom is having a difficult time describing the setting to you with a quick time period that it replicates.
I purchased the PDF copy of the Player's Guide (you can get it here).
Hope I'm not stepping on any toes, BT.
To describe as simply as possible, I would say it is similar in rule to the Greek city states. The influence of large seats of power spreads out over the lands nearest them. Leaders are typically single individuals and vary in degrees of goodness/badness, although some locations are ruled by council but those seem few and far between.
The wilderlands appear to be headed into a dark ages of sorts, as several events have taken place as time has gone on which have reduced the amount of recorded knowledge that is available even among the "civilized" folk. Superstition and mysticism seem to be taking hold as most books and people who are knowledgable in ancient history have seen their end.
Black Tom can correct me if I am wrong regarding Warwik. But the information I have gathered OOC is that it is its own city state exerting control over the lands that surround it. They are terrible enemies of The Invincible Overlord (lands to the south) as they were founded by rebellious nobles who the Overlord shamed into leaving his city.
I will say that Black Tom is not a "by the book" DM when it comes to setting (the same can't be said in regards to the rules). He is more the type of DM that uses the wilderlands for information/general backdrop as opposed to knowing every detail about them.
Hope this info helps.
Oh, and Proteus said "Who you calling goody-goody?"
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Shortly after Brock made out for his grand adventure he realized he didn't know where to start. Did you go to an adventuring agent? Was there a sign leading to the bad guy? Brock quickly decided he needed help. He would need someone to do most of the talking, mapping, healing, well anything that didnt have to deal with a Great Axe, and ale. So Brock made his way to the bars, which is when he found (Radavel Charcater) take it away Radavel! if this is what your thinking?
It's sound good.
Hessiah, after a few rounds, convinces Haun's character to partner up with him. Their combined efforts making for a more formidable front. Then they can meet Juliare who is planning on taking the 500 gp bounty off the head of some bandit....
Brock cant argue with that, you scratch my back, I kill your goblin!
OHere are some more specific questions then :
* Is the society really stratified ? Nobles have privileges that simple paysants do not have . Nobles even have the right of high and low justice ?
* Is a woman considered the equal to the man : socially , legally ( for exemple 2 centuries ago a woman could not inherit)
* Education : does everyone know how to read and write or only PCs and rich people ? are colleges , universities frequent even for mages or is magic a master-apprentice relation ?
* Laws : is torture considered a legal mean of extracting confession ? worse , is torture obligatory to confirm confession ( yes it was so in some countries in medieval times ) ? Are pillory , branding , mutilation accepted means to punish someone ? Are executions of criminals a public spectacle?
* Are there windmills , watermills , printing in the world ?
* What are the humane point of view of monster races ? Could they be considered as beings under the law or only vermin ? If they are considered beings, do the authorities consider themselves at war with them (bring back a goblin for judgment to town and being told " oh you should have killed it" really p...s me off ) .
* Is Warwick a independant city or part of a country ? Are we living in a democracy/plutocracy/royalty/theocracy system ?
* One big example : is a cleric of a god of law considered as a judge of the country he is in ?
* What about sanitation ? Does people consider bathing unealthy? Are there public baths or is it considered immoral
* Prostitution : both sexes indulge or only one ?
* Majority : At one times , marrying at 14-15 years old was normal ( Juliet of Shakespeare fame was only 14 ). On the other way a man under thirty was not considered really mature but would still often...
Well, here goes, with the caveat that WorsT is right on the money about me as a DM. I have also been playing D&D for about 25 years and taught History of Ideas for a living. I just don't like to mix the two.
* The noble's quarters in Warwik is more or less a gated community, so it's definitely stratified, but not quite to the point that the justice systems are separate. The nobles just usually get a better deal.
* Women are generally subordinate, but as per usual in D&D, there is a lot more opportunities for women than ever in recorded history.
* Literacy is fairly widespread among the higher classes and magic is generally organized in colleges, often combined with temples to gods of knowledge or magic.
* Torture is legal but not obligatory and generally used only in severe cases, and especially when the defendant is of the lower classes.
* The technological level is more medieval than Renaissance. There might be some exceptions, but if so, they are more likely to be powered by magic.
* Views on the monster races differ, but an orc showing up by the city gates wouldn't be slain outright. The evil humanoid races are generally nasty, but there are exceptions.
* Warwik is definitely an independent city. The region is dominated by the City State of the Invincible Overlord, but Warwik is in open rebellion, and the City State isn't really a country, it's basically just a large cities which collects tribute. Warwik is too far away and too powerful to be really threatened. Most of all it's a plutocracy. Technically it's a republic, with 50 senators and an elected governor.
* There is a sewer system (of course) and public bathing is allowed. Standards of hygiene differ substantially between classes.
* There is prostitution, of course, and to a lesser degree for both sexes.
* Majority would be around 15, at which point girls would be eligible for marriage.
I hope this helps somewhat. The Player's Guide to the Wilderlands could give some more flavor, but I don't abide strictly by it. Specificly, there are no gods (even if there are diverse religions).
But really, this is an orc-and-pie game.
Well, I forgot to copy and paste, and my character's info has all been eaten up. I'll do it again when I get a chance.
Well, I forgot to copy and paste, and my character's info has all been eaten up. I'll do it again when I get a chance.
I like your character, but I don't use traits and I wonder where you got your second feat.
I'll open a thread in the play-by-post where you all can get acquainted.
No no, I copy/pasted the format from an old character, and haven't finished changing things over!
She's definitely taking point blank shot, as her feat.
i haven't written her details up yet
but think:
travelling adventurer cowboy (cowgirl!), knows how to kick around in the wilds, and shoots electricity out of her fingers, instead of her pistols.
meets snow white, with the animals following her around, and such.
This looks like it could be a lot of fun. The IC thread is now open.
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Hey Robin,
No offense, but this is a fantasy game. Just as I am pretending to play a female halfling, could you not also pretend to play a character that doesn't have a problem with her?
She shoots electricity out of her fingers! If we can pretend that, can we not also pretend that your character has a shred of decency and respect regarding someone of a different sex and gender?
If we can create a fantasy world, should we not try to eliminate the heteronormative, racist, sexist, and misogynist gender performatives from it? We deal with enough of that nonsense in the real world. Thanks! I don't want any of that bullsh*t in a game I play!
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My contention is that you are eschewing any responsibility for creating that world (without prejudices)!
It's a fantasy world where unassuming old people shoot fireballs out of their fingers, and people sling around divine miracles 'like it ain't no thang'.
All I'm saying is that it's reasonable for a person who has grown up in that world to not hang onto the tropes of racism and sexism that plague the real world. Eh?
As responsible for the world I'll have to agree with xdahnx here. It's an established trope at least in D&D that women are just as capable warriors as men, even if women in society at large are generally subordinated. That's one of the points where fantasy diverges from history.
It's perfectly alright to play a bigoted character, but I expect you to play nice with each other. That's where I thought that Grond and Roylenna might serve as a good example.
robin, I understand that you are trying to differentiate between you and your character, but we need to get along, so you can't really expect Quick to prove herself to you. You need to meet her half-way.
However misanthropic your characters may be, I want the party to work together as a team, so you'll have to come up with some reason why you've chosen to entrust each other with your lives. Brock and Hessiah are off to a good start there.
I'm leaving early tomorrow for Dalecarlia in the north of Sweden and don't expect to have internet access until Thursday, so you have a few days to get together as a team, retconning if necessary.
By the way, you all start with one hero point. And just because it's a topic I happen to feel strongly about I'm awarding one more to Quick for standing up against sexism.
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I guess I never really explained this with a write up...
Quick is the halfling you've all met. Spark is the source of her power. It's what she calls it, anyway.
I figured since we were playing in a godless world, i'd stick with a philosophy or belief based cleric.
her domains are air (giving her the electric blast power), and animal, giving her an animal that she can summon that doesn't really die.
my interpretation is that Spark gives her access to her cleric powers, and manifests itself in various forms, supported by the mechanic of the animal domain.
sometimes she calls Spark as a wolf, sometimes as an owl, sometimes as a porpoise. yes. a porpoise.
it could happen!
Really, Spark is just her own magic, and as she learns to use it, it gets stronger and stronger.
Make sense?
Brock I checked your profile since I was curious about how well we'll do : + 7 diplomacy ? how do you figure this ? ( I don't have the rules with me now .
Yeah, I figure Brock's Diplomacy score would be 0 (1r -1). Obviously not his strong point.