Who's in your 5?


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Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6

Christine Schneider—Theocracy of Carnamach
Gods who want to die? Druids who aren't hippy dippy treehuggers? What's not to like?

Erik Anderson—Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Risky move deserves reward. more importantly he took a blah monster and breathed new life into it as a race. Lots of potential for conflict and adventure. Also allows for a new twist to the 'feral child, raised by wolves' schtick.

Rob McCreary—Iskandria
Sucked me in and grabbed me by the bullwhip. Raiders of the Rani? Check. It also echos some of my thoughts on why the Jedi were evil.

Neil McClean—The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire
Darkness takes many forms, and there are few good takes on this classic. Lots of spiritual ideas too. Has the goddess been replaced, or has she just continued to reflect the people's will? Can she be redeemed/rescued? Do your epic level characters have what it takes to kill a corrupted deity?

James MacKenzie—Land of the Stained Peaks
What started out as "*yawn* look, dwarves live in mountains" turned into a captivating read and a discussion of mystical polution and a complex environment.

I did notice something about how I'd use the different countries.

The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire- PCs are rabble rousers, trying to restore the good nation.

Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains - PCs are explorers and become negotiators between two societies that are alien to each other.

Land of the Stained Peaks - PCs are going to disrupt this civilization trying to curb the damage from the run off.

Theocracy of Carnamach - PCs are trying to find the name of the dying god. Once they find it do they heal him or kill him? What happens afterwards?

Iskandria - PCs leave their heavy armour and western morals behind.

Scarab Sages

My immediate includes were:

* Beria
* Iskandria
* Land of the Stained Peaks

After that were my "I'm-pretty-sure-I-like-this,-but-I-want-to-read-the-rest-to-make-sure" nations:

* Kestria
* Yithnai

Which, conveniently, rounded out my 5 votes. I had three others that I was keeping in mind, but were superseded by the above:

* Eluraelon
* Moros Akalein
* Theocracy of Carnamach

I'll be making comments on all of these later, under their individual threads, but overall: Well Done!

Scarab Sages

P.S. - And anyone who doesn't vote for Iskandria CLEARLY missed reading the words "monkey goblins".

MONKEY GOBLINS!

Say it with me:

MON-KEY GOB-LINS!

What isn't there to like about a place that brings us monkey goblins?

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Patrick Walsh wrote:

P.S. - And anyone who doesn't vote for Iskandria CLEARLY missed reading the words "monkey goblins".

MONKEY GOBLINS!

Say it with me:

MON-KEY GOB-LINS!

What isn't there to like about a place that brings us monkey goblins?

I WAS disappointed that I didn't learn more about Monkey Goblins though... but I'm hoping that is going to be in the monster submission.

Also, I love Iskandria (and voted for it) cos it basically means Alexandria, which means it was founded by Alexander the Great.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 8 aka Sect

Okay, I FINALLY chose my five.

I'm not going to share who it is at this time, but it was a very tough choice for the last three. I ended up writing notes on what kind of adventures could be had int he country, then examined the previous wonderous items that each person sent, and rated them on how I like them and the connection that they have with the adventure.


My process was to read through all 32 without reading any of the comments from judges or community, writing down all the ones that grabbed my attention and hooked me in at least a little. There were several I didn't even read all the way through (though I did check the DM secrets section for every submission).

This is not unlike what I do when I'm reading published material - I can't tell you how many Dungeon articles about this or that I never read just because it didn't grapple my immagination in the first paragraph and then pin it too the floor in the second. Similarly, there are published source books I've started to flip through, randomly checking out two to four pages, and if I can't find something on one of these pages that keeps me reading there's very little chance I'll buy it.

That process narrowed the field down to just seven. Then I went back and read the judges and community comments. Faith in my top three - which each hit it out of the park for me - never wavered but the discussion on the rest had a huge impact on which two eventually filled my 4th and 5th slots.

In the end, I voted thus:

Top 3

    1. Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains by Erik Anderson
    As I said in a post to that thread "OMG. I LOVE this country!". And though many see it as a place for human/demi-human PC's to encounter and interact with, in the same way that my familiarity with the Creature Cruicible series from Mystara (my favourite campaign world) means I have no trouble envisioning a Centaur or Pegataur PC, I find the idea of a Blink Dog PC compelling and completely within the realm of possibility.

    2. Eluraelon by Russell Taylor
    Under- and Over-sea community which expertly merges together great ideas that can also be found in three source books for Mystara: The Minrothad Guilds, The Kingdom of Ierendi and The Sea-People

    3. Olanra: undersea enchantment by Walter Pullen
    A complete undersea nation that also reminded me of The Sea-People. It was almost a tie with Eluraelon but it came in third because I would have liked to know more about their interactions with surface folk.

Second String

    4. The Prison Colony of Saran by Joseph Yerger.
    A penal colony in a crystal sphere? How cool is that? I'd totally start a campaign with each of the PC's having been unfairly sentenced to imprisonment for different reasons and go from there.

    5. Freeholds of Karistynia by Alexander MacLeod
    What's not to love about a wealthy and somewhat decadent society built on the backs of undead labour?
    There's a fantasy book I read a while back - I wish I could remember the name as I would recommend it - where "zombie labour" was a major element of the world.

Honourable Mentions

    6. The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire by Neil McClean
    Another one that put me in mind of Mystara, (Hm... Does anyone else sense a trend here...?) this reminded me quite a bit of the Heldalnic Knights (first introduced in the Known World Grimoire articles from Dungeon which were compiled in Champions of Mystara boxed set), another useful nation of "Think They're Good But They're Really More Like Evil" - they think they have the "right stuff" and want to squish the "wrong stuff" out of everyone else.

    7. Ulmlinzi-Kiwanja by Joel Flank
    I quite liked the ideas in this, including the rainbow trees, and I've always found primitive jungle countries to be a great way to shake things up by throwing urbanized PCs into them. This also snagged a Mystara connection as it reminding me of the Ulimwengu people from the Serpent Penisula, which is also discussed Champions of Mystara

Best of luck to each of the above and basic good luck to the other 25. :-)

:-j(enni)


I chose one country, the only one that rocked my D&D socks.

Zavaten Gura: Land of the Stained Peaks by James MacKenzie. Hands down the best country, IMO. I am using this in my next campaign. Damn, I want to roll up a dwarf PC and play right now!

Dark Archive

My top five and the points that tipped them over;

Iolandis - pseudonatural Wound, not as well developed as I would have liked, but still great potential
Carnamach - air of desperation, hubris, conflict between man and nature
Stained Peaks - toxic mining by-products influence the ecosystem
Eluraelon - aquatic elf / sahuagin, wizardly enclave
Yithnai - holy Robert E Howard, Batman, my number one with a gun

Strongly considered;
Kerpiquan - great potential, lots of adventure hook *could* come from here, but didn't...
Karistynia - society in decay, celebrating it's own demise?
Cryehllan - Tiger Princes
Iskandria - rich with both large and small-scale adventure potential

I voted based on two factors;
How much playability is in the region?
How freaking *cool* does it sound?

I don't know or care who made what for magic items, as I didn't even know about that contest until it was over and haven't read any of that stuff. I just looked at the countries.

Scarab Sages

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How much does the public voting influence the final outcome of the sweet 16?

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

100%

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 8 aka Sect

Erik Mona wrote:
100%

Minus fifteen votes. I don't think that the three judges count as the "voting public" [/snarkyremark] :P

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Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
Snip

I suspect that you're a fan of Mystara, ma'am.


Mactaka wrote:
How much does the public voting influence the final outcome of the sweet 16?

Will we be able to see the vote totals for all 32?

El Skootro


For myself, I read them all without looking at the judges comments. When i was done i went back through the list, looked at the names and if I could remember what they were about, they made my short list. From there, I re-read the ones on the short list and decided from there. In no particular order:

Bereket
Stained peaks
Iskandria
Yithnia
Malar

Good luck to all!

Sovereign Court

Theocracy of Carnamach
Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Beria "Under New Management"
Land of the stained Peaks
Kestria "A nation on the edge."

When I read the round 1 entries, I looked at the technical details, and so, ended up being disappointed, since the judges valued creativity and clever ideas over such mundane requirements (which is fine... this kind of things is subjective.)

So this time, I looked for the clever idea... the something I hadn't seen 100 times. And I wanted it early.
I admit, I didn't read most of most of the posts. If you didn't get me with the first few lines, I moved on. I'm not a professional game editor, I have no desire to read 32000 words, most of which might end up boring me. If some great ideas got lost in a haze of setup, I missed it.
Additionally, I quickly got to the "Yawn... another evil country. next." I wanted countries where I could see my characters spending some time, and not constantly running for their lives. Even so, a couple of my choices were cool enough to get me past the "evil country" problem.

I'm sure I'm in a minority as to how I went about picking, and that's fine... this kind of thing is subjective.


My choices are (and in no particular order):

Iskandria
Land of the Stained Peaks (Dwarfs FTW)
Theocracy of Carnamach
Freeholds of Karistynia
The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire

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Erik Mona wrote:
100%

It's too bad you guys don't each retain a golden ticket for the first few rounds. I suppose it'll only really matter if we make it to the next round and your golden ticket doesn't make it. That's probably an unlikely scenario.


Sect wrote:
I suspect that you're a fan of Mystara, ma'am.

What on earth ever gave you that impression? I couldn't possibly imagine how you came to that particular conclusion...

;-D

:-j(enni)


In particular order:

#1 Rob McCreary - Iskandria
Rob, your flavor text hooked me (like all good writing should) and it carried me all the way through your piece. Well done. Oh, and MONKEY GOBLINS!? I want to know more.

#2 Erik Anderson — Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Erik, I hope you realize that you've used up the "bizarre card" and will rely only on your good grasp of language and creative flow to get you through future rounds (assuming you make it to the next round -- personally, I hope you do).

#3 James MacKenzie — Land of the Stained Peaks
Dwarves that can't live below ground because the metals they mine have poisoned the earth? Nice. Watch out for bulky names -- your city naming convention was a huge drawback for me, but the rest of the entry won me over.

#4 Jason Nelson — Bereket
I've always had a thing for desert settings (movies, books, RPGs, what have you) and this entry did not disappoint.

#5 Samuel Kisko — Yithnai
The Migrus Locker was my #1 favorite for round one and I was glad to see your slightly bent viewpoint carry over into round two. I had a tough time choosing between your entry and Russell Taylor's for the #5 spot -- in the end I chose you because of your strong round one entry.

Honorable Mentions (also in particular order):

#1 Russell Taylor — Eluraelon
You missed my top 5 only because your country name was too unpronounceable. Try making it shorter next time -- Eluraelon written as Elura doesn't trip me up every time I encounter the word in a sentence. I hope you advance, though -- good luck!

#2 Daniele Nanni — Agregia
#3 Alex Handley — Kerpiquan: the Land of Lost Civilisations
#4 Joe Outzen — Moros Akalein: The Wandering Nation
#5 Neil McClean — The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire
#6 William McNulty — Akram Zafir

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Short listed:

Freeholds of Karistynia
Theocracy of Carnamach
Cyrehllan, The Isle of Cold Tears
Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Beria
Land of the Stained Peaks
The Country of Nelvia
Terram
The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire
Iskandria

Top 5:

Theocracy of Carnamach
Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Beria
Terram
Iskandria

I've given some reasons in each post.

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mythfish wrote:

I've got 4 of my 5 figured out, but I have a 6 way tie for the last spot. Guess it comes down to which of them designed the best wondrous item. :)

Just out of curiosity, are most people voting solely on the basis of the countries, or are they voting for the superstars who they feel have done well in both rounds?

I've found it interesting to see which wondrous item each person submitted in relation to their country, but I've voted solely on the country.

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:


#2 Erik Anderson — Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
Erik, I hope you realize that you've used up the "bizarre card" and will rely only on your good grasp of language and creative flow to get you through future rounds

I actually suspect this is true for most everyone.

I wouldn't advise trying to play the bizarre card in future rounds. Maybe , but you darn well better knock it out of the park.

Of course, I think whatever entry you make, from the next round on only home runs are going to advance. Some doubles are going to sneak in to the villain contest, but I can promise you there's going to be enough talent in that round to prohibit any consolation prizes.

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The moment no one has been waiting for:

1. Vramaire: Closely resembles the entry I'd half-finished before I didn't advance. While my people had already fallen, your are poised to fall. I would want to adventure there. I would want mypaladin to lose all his abilities there and have my quest be something like: restore the faith of past heroes. No end to the potential adventure, no end to the political intrigue. You give me exactly what I want in most DnD games.

2. Ghost Hounds: I somewhat agree with the 'dont play the bizarre card anymore', then again, I think you should give us what you're insprired to write. That will be your best effort. You laid 'em out on the table and distanced yourself from every entry. Now give me a villain I can build a campaign around, and make me wish I were playing in your town.

3. Cyrehllan: I have a friend who once said of me: "Steve used to be a Christian, but now he works for Mountain Dew." In my first Iron DM, I used Dew cans for huge models (frost worms and advanced gelugons, I think). But those references are just for fun. The point of the MD thing is the energy and pulp you bring to the game. I'll add the intrigue, and I'll hold the players' own consciences hostage, but I'll do it using your rakshasa tiger lords and their expanding minions.

4. Iskandria: Is there a better campaign idea than couatl-worshipping rainbow wizards hiding from persecution and rallying good people against the persecution of scantily-clad sorceresses? We're talking about lawful good wizards living a life of uncertain survival and fighting a guerilla war against the evil establishment. I've already decided I'd play an abjurantchampion/ranger/wizard whose animal companion and familiar are the same creature (precedent for that in complete adventurer). Let's get a DM and five other players and kick this thing off!

5. Yithnai: Initially my favorite evil submission. Now I realize that it's my favorite submission as a DM or as an evil character, and Iskandria is where it's at for good guys struggling just to not get perished. But you compel me to run a game in your place. Normally I'd rather run than play, and that means you spoke to the lightless place in my soul that delights in manipulating players and kiling PCs. That lightless place has a huge voice and improved grapple, and the hero n me that might resist is still rolling up stats in Iskandria. Welcome to the top five.

There are several more good submissions. Honorable mention to the Stained Peaks, but no one else struck me as a true superstar beyond those six.

Good luck to all of you. I look forward to your villains, but I warn you again: it's hard to get my vote.

The Exchange

Well I could go on and on about the wonders that these peopel put out but I wont. Others have either echod my thoughts or just gone off in a very troubling and weird way on what and why they think some are good and others are not. I think the skill and exicution of the writting of the ones I picked as my five speak for themselves and I want very much to see them in the next round.
Christine Schneider—Theocracy of Carnamach
James MacKenzie—Land of the Stained Peaks
Jason Nelson—Bereket
Rob McCreary—Iskandria
Russell Taylor—Eluraelon

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Considering how much I've been wandering in and out of this thread, glancing over people's decisions about who they did and did NOT choose, I would feel like a real scum-bag if I didn't come in here, pony up, and declare my Top 5.

And I actually AM a real scum-bag, so that would be a nasty double-whammy.

Point is: I decided to cast my five votes on the contestants that I would most obsessively like to see in the next round & in the following rounds - each one of them, to my mind, deserves a shot a cranking out a villain, some monsters, an encounter and an adventure, because I love the way they think and would love, love, love to game with them.

In the end, compelling ideas were what sold me - a good DM doesn't need a big "DM's Secrets" section, a history lesson or a lot of numbers. A good DM just needs a spark, an idea that he (or she) has never had before.

That makes everyone go "huh - I never thought of that". And game on.

In alphabetical order, the chosen are:

Christine Schneider, Theocracy of Carnamach - because a devastated land in the midst of a civil war really should have, as a ruler, "The severed head of a perishing deity". I love it, and I have to, have to vote for it.

Clinton Boomer, Cyrehllan, The Isle of Cold Tears - because my mother can't figure out how to come in here and vote for me, so I have to. I promised her.

James MacKenzie, Land of the Stained Peaks - because I've seen a lot of dwarven nations, but I've never seen one KICK MY @$$ SQUARE.

Michael Raper, The Grand Duchy of Draeth - because I like "Jhereg", I like horror, I like China Mieville and I really, REALLY like demons . . . and this country is basically ALL of the work done for me to run THAT game.

Samuel Kisko, Yithnai - because I want to party with this guy EVERY DAY. Any guy who submitts the Migrus Locker and Yithnai is cool in my book, and I can't wait to use his villain in my campaign.

On a personal note: I've never felt so sad to leave so many other wonderful entries off the list - because I could run a game in ANY of these places.

Thank you to each and every one of my fellow 32 for making my job so f!**ing hard.

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Though it doesn't mean anything, my tally from this thread so far (as the countries are listed on the main page, and excluding people who hadn't finished reading):
Kerpiquan 0
Karistynia 10
Spine Peaks 0
Steppenland 1
Iolandis 1
Carnamach 17
Cyrehllan 8
Agregia 0
Ghost Hound Kinships 13
Beria 5
Land of the Stained Peaks 29
Bereket 13
Vendithian Union 0
Moros Akalein 2
Ulmlinzi-Kiwanja 0
Saran 1
Cumavea 0
Nelvia 0
Calidune 0
Draeth 3
Vramaire 9
Idalia 0
Iskandria 25
Drei-Conita' 0
Laraklan 0
Terram 1
Eluraelon 8
Yithnai 21
Kestria 7
Olanra 3
Malar 2
Akram Zafir 6

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Starglim wrote:

Though it doesn't mean anything, my tally from this thread so far (as the countries are listed on the main page, and excluding people who hadn't finished reading):

*SNIP*

And!?! Where am I? Above average? I can't do math! Not under pressure!

EDIT: I think I'm tied for ninth place. I think. Christ, I should go to bed.

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Starglim wrote:


Cyrehllan: 9th equal.

Thank you, Starglim!


All my votes went towards what I perceived to be the most worthy second-tier contestants rather than the ones I expect to already practically have their names etched on round 3 list. It just feels like I'll have a more direct input into the outcome that way.

Agregia
Beria
Saran
Vramaire
Terram

The Exchange

Rearranged + Nem-Z with a cut of 2 votes:

Calidune 0
Cumavea 0
Drei-Conita' 0
Idalia 0
Kerpiquan 0
Laraklan 0
Nelvia 0
Spine Peaks 0
Ulmlinzi-Kiwanja 0
Vendithian Union 0
Agregia 1
Iolandis 1
Steppenland 1

Terram 2
Malar 2
Moros Akalein 2
Saran 2
Draeth 3
Olanra 3
Beria 6
Akram Zafir 6
Kestria 7
Cyrehllan 8
Eluraelon 8
Karistynia 10
Vramaire 10
Bereket 13
Ghost Hound Kinships 13
Carnamach 17
Yithnai 21
Iskandria 25
Land of the Stained Peaks 29

Cheers


Yiknai. Akram Zafir. 3 others.


After my first read-through I've narrowed it down to the following:

Alexander MacLeod—Freeholds of Karistynia
Christine Schneider—Theocracy of Carnamach
Clinton Boomer—Cyrehllan, The Isle of Cold Tears
Hal Maclean—Beria "Under New Management"
James MacKenzie—Land of the Stained Peaks
Jason Nelson—Bereket
Jeb Boyt—Vendithian Union
Joseph Yerger—The Prison Colony of Saran
Neil McClean—The Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire
Rob McCreary—Iskandria
Russell Taylor—Eluraelon
Samuel Kisko—Yithnai
Walter Pullen—Olanra: undersea enchantment
William McNulty—Akram Zafir


Voted for the following:

Iskandria
Theocracy of Carnamach
Enlightened Kingdom of Vramaire
Ulmlinzi-Kiwanja
Olanra

Beria and Stained Peaks are bubbling under...if you drop, blame me.

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For all who have chosen to vote for me via way of Terram, thank you greatly. I hope yet more agree with you.

(I haven't picked my five yet. Too busy with end-of-semester to sit and read 31,000 words with a critical eye. Messageboards on the other hand...Well, I need a break every now and again.)


Not in order of preferrence

Do you have to use all of your votes, in order for them to count? If not I may drop one of these.

  • Christine Schneider—Theocracy of Carnamach
  • Erik Anderson—Ghost Hound Kinships of the Rolling Plains
  • James MacKenzie—Land of the Stained Peaks
  • Samuel Kisko—Yithnai
  • William McNulty—Akram Zafir


Ross Byers wrote:


(I haven't picked my five yet. Too busy with end-of-semester to sit and read 31,000 words with a critical eye. Messageboards on the other hand...Well, I need a break every now and again.)

QFT. Though I did find time to read enough to comfortably vote.

(though it's about time to start thinking about the early 08 conference papers. Got into the PCA/ACA in san fran just the other day)

Star Voter Season 6

Stained Peaks
Iskandria
Yithanai
Bereket
Vramaire

Almost voted for Caramach...the passion in the writing and the bigger-than-life ideas really appealed to me; but, I found the others more complete rhetorically, thematically, and compositionally.

Good luck to all in the next round.

Sovereign Court

yithnai
stained peaks
cyrehllan
kestria
vramaire

Homorable Mentions:
Iskandria
Carnamach
bereket


I have to say. I have been highly impressed by this competition. I repeat, highly impressed and not only by the entries, but the entrants themselves, the community and the judges. The creativity shown here (even by those who have lost) is absolutely amazing and the courtesy and good nature of these boards is incredible. Good job everyone and good luck to the entrants.


It seems that Vramaire may be on much sturdier ground than I expected, and thus have changed that vote to support my next favorite underdog; Spine Peaks.

Updated and slightly reformatted. with 2 votes still being the highly-contested cutoff point:

EXIT POLLS wrote:

00 Calidune

00 Cumavea
00 Drei-Conita
00 Idalia
00 Kerpiquan
00 Laraklan
00 Nelvia
00 Vendithian Union
01 Spine Peaks
01 Ulmlinzi-Kiwanja
01 Agregia
01 Iolandis
01 Steppenland
~~~~~
02 Terram
02 Malar
02 Moros Akalein
02 Saran
~~~~~
03 Draeth
04 Olanra
06 Beria
07 Akram Zafir
08 Kestria
08 Eluraelon
09 Cyrehllan
10 Karistynia
12 Vramaire
14 Bereket
14 Ghost Hound Kinships
19 Carnamach
24 Yithnai
27 Iskandria
32 Land of the Stained Peaks

Interesting how the simple existence of this thread creates a metagame atmosphere out of voting, no? Then again who know what the real voting tally looks like at this point... and heck, we could all be lying.

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Nem-Z wrote:
... and heck, we could all be lying.

I'm not!

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Nem-Z wrote:

It seems that Vramaire may be on much sturdier ground than I expected, and thus have changed that vote to support my next favorite underdog; Spine Peaks.

And there's the danger. Everyone in this thread, and others, could do so.

I've voted based on my opinion of which countries deserve to reach the next round and won't change my vote.

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here here. I wouldn't want to send a middle-of-the-pack entry with 2 votes less than a top vote-getter and have the author not think they don't have to really step it up next round. it's not fair to the people who deserve to be thought of as favorites, nor to the people who need to step up to continue to advance.

Boomer - I get the feeling you and I are a lot alike at the table. We'll have to figure out a way to make that happen at GenCon '08. Maybe I'll run a game for a few of us that can make it. Thnk there'd be any interest in that?

Hmmm.

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ancientsensei wrote:
here here. I wouldn't want to send a middle-of-the-pack entry with 2 votes less than a top vote-getter and have the author not think they don't have to really step it up next round. it's not fair to the people who deserve to be thought of as favorites, nor to the people who need to step up to continue to advance.

Thirded - I selected my Chosen Few not out of popularity, because some probably will advance and some probably won't, but out of raw obsession with the work. I suppose I can only hope that the meta-game of doesn't affect the honest-critique selection process too much, because the meta-game DOES exist now.

ancientsensei wrote:

Boomer - I get the feeling you and I are a lot alike at the table. We'll have to figure out a way to make that happen at GenCon '08. Maybe I'll run a game for a few of us that can make it. Thnk there'd be any interest in that?

Hmmm.

I know for a FACT that there exists a certain level of interest in that - my girlfriend will presumably be busy most of the day doing booth-girl stuff for Skirmisher and possibly running part of the TerrorWorks event, so I'll be free to wander around, meet people, play games, and, as a U-List celebrity, score some cool-points.


Well, let me put it this way... I've got a list of 16 I'd like to see progress, and certainly some rate higher than others. However, given that my goal is to see -all- of them move on rather than just the ones I like the absolute best, the 'winning strategy' for me is to vote for the ones that are having trouble hitting the bar in order of my personal preferences.

You can't really complain about the metagame developing here... clearly it was fostered by the judges when they decided to allow commentary on the submissions and a runoff voting system that isn't necessarily fixed the first time you push submit. If the judges wanted to get rid of this part of the competition they could have banned discussion and made voting a one-time-only choice. If this was an oversight the judges could just politely tell us to cut it out, or they could change the voting system to work as a yes/no choice for each entry with no limit on how many you can choose to support.

Hey, we're gamers... -everything- can become a game if you put a little thought into it. ;P

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Steven T. Helt

Nem-Z: I got no complaints for the way anyone votes, anyone pimps, or anyone metagames.It's a contest and all parts of the contestr are in play.

I want everyone to abide by rules and have good taste and sportsmanship. Out of that, you got no argument from me.

Now: who's running Iskandria?

Grand Lodge Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8

Nem-Z wrote:

Well, let me put it this way... I've got a list of 16 I'd like to see progress, and certainly some rate higher than others. However, given that my goal is to see -all- of them move on rather than just the ones I like the absolute best, the 'winning strategy' for me is to vote for the ones that are having trouble hitting the bar in order of my personal preferences.

Certainly! Your vote is your own within the conditions established. I'd never want to imply otherwise.


I never thought you guys were giving me trouble... You're just pointing out the potential downside to my strategy if too many others adopt it as well.

Yeah, game theory is fun stuff!

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Nem-Z wrote:

I never thought you guys were giving me trouble... You're just pointing out the potential downside to my strategy if too many others adopt it as well.

Yeah, game theory is fun stuff!

Yeah, for SMART people. The rest of us have so sit here and go, "Wait, so . . . what happens?"

*grin*

But you are 100% correct - this contest (in the current, lae-change incarnation) is pretty much designed for people to do exactly what we're doing now. And it's fun.

Also: I request your vote.


It is sad that I am unable to cast a sixth vote.

My five with the honorable mention going to the one that would be sixth:

Yithnai
Iskandria
Stained Peaks
Bereket
Carnamach

Hororable Mention - Kyristania

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