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Hmm, where are all the NPCs from Smuggler's Shiv that I'm supposed to *ahem* visit?

Aerys, Sasha and Gelik are curiously absent... ;)


Gary Teter wrote:
That's been on the todo list for awhile.

So has private messaging :)


Chivane wrote:

Hmm, where are all the NPCs from Smuggler's Shiv that I'm supposed to *ahem* visit?

Aerys, Sasha and Gelik are curiously absent... ;)

The new avatars that were added were selected based on whether they fit the dimensions correctly, whether the details scaled decently and contained colors that would remain as vivid and interesting when scaled down.

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Gary Teter wrote:
That's been on the todo list for awhile.
So has private messaging :)

We have a long to-do list. :)


I've noticed that, Chris. PM has been on your list for what, at least 3 years?

What's my avatar from? I don't buy adventure paths.


Any chance in getting the pic of Kassata from the cover of Smuggler's Shiv added? The artwork is much more attractive than the one from City of Seven Spears. I believe Lissa is already using it even.

Kelsey: That's Chivane, a Red Mantis assassin. She's from the cover of City of Seven Spears (Serpent's Skull AP pt 3).

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To find out where your avatar is from, right-click the image to open it in a new window. The url for your image is called "PZO9039-Chivane.jpg". Search for "PZO9039", brings up City of Seven Spears. (This trick will really only work on the most recent batch of avatars.)

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Laithoron wrote:
Any chance in getting the pic of Kassata from the cover of Smuggler's Shiv added? The artwork is much more attractive than the one from City of Seven Spears. I believe Lissa is already using it even.

A Paizo staffer already using it puts it off limits. We're special snowflakes and get our own custom avatars. =)


Laithoron wrote:
Any chance in getting the pic of Kassata from the cover of Smuggler's Shiv added? The artwork is much more attractive than the one from City of Seven Spears. I believe Lissa is already using it even.

Paizo staff get custom avatars to help differentiate them from other posters.

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In fact, Paizo staff gets first dibs on each new batch of avatar images when they're produced.


Haha! OK fair enough. :P

*prays no one at Paizo will use the elven Daredevil bard from UC... since the art order was seemingly inspired by my favorite character ^_^;


Hey, Chris, what's your avatar from? I want to track down the larger version of that image and make it my desktop wallpaper.

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You don't need to worry. If the avatar is already in use by others, we won't make it exclusive.

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Joana wrote:
Cosmo wrote:

I'm a Redcap, now! :D

...seems fitting

But you don't look construct-y. :(

Good point!

Fixed. :)

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Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Hey, Chris, what's your avatar from? I want to track down the larger version of that image and make it my desktop wallpaper.

She'from Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Rival Guide, Belia of Zadoth.


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Hey, Chris, what's your avatar from? I want to track down the larger version of that image and make it my desktop wallpaper.
She'from Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Rival Guide, Belia of Zadoth.

Never mind. It doesn't appear to be OGC or available on the blog, and I use homebrew settings, so have no reason to spend 13 dollars on a Golarion product. Gotta save my money up so I can buy the Bestiary 3 in a couple weeks.

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Lissa Guillet wrote:
Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Hey, Chris, what's your avatar from? I want to track down the larger version of that image and make it my desktop wallpaper.
She'from Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Rival Guide, Belia of Zadoth.

...and drawn by the most awesome Carolina Eade!

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I'm being a broken record here but ... why do the Paizo avatars hate Seltyiel?

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No Akiros Ismort or Jhod Kavken from KM#1? So far i've found Kressle and Auchs, not many others.

Sorting by AP would be incredibly useful for PbP.


Do you guys take avatar requests? If the answer is yes, there are two in particular that I would like. On Ultimate Magic page 99 (the section about spell duels) there is a redheaded girl in mail carrying a sword and spellbook. On Ultimate Combat page 75 (the Spellslinger page) there is a blue haired spellslinger. I would love to have both of these, especially the redhead, as avatars.

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*sigh*

Time to change my avatar, now that there's several regular posters who use the same one.

And I liked the phantom fungus :/

This is definitely going to take some getting used to ...


Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
Do you guys take avatar requests? If the answer is yes, there are two in particular that I would like. On Ultimate Magic page 99 (the section about spell duels) there is a redheaded girl in mail carrying a sword and spellbook. On Ultimate Combat page 75 (the Spellslinger page) there is a blue haired spellslinger. I would love to have both of these, especially the redhead, as avatars.

We don't take avatar requests, but I can tell you avatars from those products will probably arrive when I'm not as buried. This should be soon-ish :)


Chris Lambertz wrote:
Kelsey MacAilbert wrote:
Do you guys take avatar requests? If the answer is yes, there are two in particular that I would like. On Ultimate Magic page 99 (the section about spell duels) there is a redheaded girl in mail carrying a sword and spellbook. On Ultimate Combat page 75 (the Spellslinger page) there is a blue haired spellslinger. I would love to have both of these, especially the redhead, as avatars.
We don't take avatar requests, but I can tell you avatars from those products will probably arrive when I'm not as buried. This should be soon-ish :)

Thanks. Hopefully those two will make the cut and get added.


And still there is no Llama!

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A flumph avatar would be greatly appreciated, please.


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More than one please.


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Ff-thirded-th.


When is the possibility of more avatars coming?


Azure_Zero wrote:
When is the possibility of more avatars coming?

Very soon! I should be able to work on a new batch in the next coming weeks.


Chris Lambertz wrote:
Azure_Zero wrote:
When is the possibility of more avatars coming?
Very soon! I should be able to work on a new batch in the next coming weeks.

Sweet,

and Thank you for the reply

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Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but there seems to be a stunning lack of Shoanti (aka "bald human") avatars. Don't even have the poster-child Shoanti dude from the ISWG.

Or did I just overlook them?


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>.>

<.<

Bestiary 3 catgirl avatar.


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A few more Tian avatars would be nice now that people are starting to make Tian characters for PFS, please. Thanks in advance. WJ

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Say, has someone gone through and renamed the avatars? Before it would be stuff like "PZO-18 Final Avatar" and now it's stuff like "Wolf" and "Pharasma."

I like it.

(But I'd still like a wine-themed avatar. Even if just a goblet, not a tankard.)


Whiskey Jack wrote:
A few more Tian avatars would be nice now that people are starting to make Tian characters for PFS, please. Thanks in advance. WJ

I agree, there are quite a few to add and I need a samurai avatar. ^^


I would like to see some aasimir avatars, along with some more Half-elf and Ulfen avatars. And maybe one or two Changeling avatars.


If I can add my voice to the "please make this avatar available!" cacophony, I would love to see Chris Tucker, I mean Nex, from Inner Sea Magic. I looked through 38 pages of avatars today and didn't see it. Please don't tell me I missed it. *grin*

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As a note for those making requests:

Chris Lambertz wrote:
We don't take avatar requests,


Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Sorting by AP would be incredibly useful for PbP.

I know it's entirely infeasible, but I'd love to be able to search avatars by various tags. "Dwarf", "Construct", "Wizard", "Kingmaker", "Female", "I-don't-really-know-but-it's-rather-creepy"...


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There are quite a few that could fall into one of several categories: human or halfling, witch or druid, dhampir or drow. Maybe tags, so you could put more than one on each avatar? Then you could search by gender, source, character class, race, etc.


Bobson wrote:
Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Sorting by AP would be incredibly useful for PbP.
I know it's entirely infeasible, but I'd love to be able to search avatars by various tags. "Dwarf", "Construct", "Wizard", "Kingmaker", "Female", "I-don't-really-know-but-it's-rather-creepy"...

yes +20

Joana wrote:
There are quite a few that could fall into one of several categories: human or halfling, witch or druid, dhampir or drow. Maybe tags, so you could put more than one on each avatar? Then you could search by gender, source, character class, race, etc.

yes + 20,


Joana wrote:
There are quite a few that could fall into one of several categories: human or halfling, witch or druid, dhampir or drow. Maybe tags, so you could put more than one on each avatar? Then you could search by gender, source, character class, race, etc.

That's what I was thinking. I'd suggest crowd-sourcing them to the community here, but then someone would still have to review them for inappropriate, unhelpful, or malicious (tagging everything as "elf" for instance) tags.


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If the tag choices themselves are managed by Paizo then that's a non-issue. But yes, I actually just made a post yesterday asking for tag/label support to be added to the message boards for this very reason: crowd-sourcing would be a powerful way to transform the boards from being only a social arena to an actual information store.

IMO part of the reason we'd want Paizo to manage the tag list so that it is only possible to tag/label for positive or useful reasons. That way someone who is unpopular can just end up with dissenters labeling them and their posts as creepy, trolling, etc.

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I agree that tagged avatar browsing would be pretty slick. Probably we'd want to start with just Paizo-managed tags because properly handling user-suggested tags introduces quality and consistency issues, and an associated flagging system and administrative tools to handle all that. At least Paizo-identified tags would be a smaller subset and the associated tools could probably be cruder since the public wouldn't be expected to deal with them. But we'd still have to write the browsing/sorting/filtering code.

But providing Paizo-managed tags means that someone has to go back through like 1,700 avatars and identify each one, which is a lot of effort. And if we're doing that we may as well identify what product each avatar came from so we don't have to go through them all twice, so that's even more effort.

I'm not saying we will never do this, though.


Well by Paizo-managed tags, I meant mostly only Paizo can create the tags. You would still want to leverage crowd-sourcing for the actual tagging of images however. This handles consistency so that you don't have: "Dwarf", "Dwarfs", and "Dwarves" all as different tags for the same thing — Paizo creates one tag called "dwarf" and predictive text auto-populates that as someone types (or there's just a drop-down list of labels like in GMail).

In order to get around people applying ridiculous tags, a threshold of 2 or 3 tags with the same label before a crowd-sourced tag is displayed/applied should eliminate most of the random noise. And hey, if enough people think a dwarf looks like a halfling or a deity, then that tells you something too.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

You still need a usable universe of tag assignments before releasing a feature like that. An empty tagging system is like a warehouse full of empty shelves. People come in to check it out, click a few things, and wander off. If you start with a reasonably complete coverage of tagged items then people are much more likely to use the system.

But yeah, if we ever open things up to customer tagging then we'll have some sort of vetting system so we can ensure quality. Nothing worse than a bunch of misspelled, unused-except-for-that-one-time-by-that-one-illiterate-guy tags.


Yeah, populating the initial list could be a chore alright — sounds like a job for SuperIntern™ to me. ;)

Perhaps harvesting popular search terms from the site itself, or even starting with basics like creature types (animal, human, outsider), class types (melee, ranged, arcane, divine, expert), gender, hair color, skin tones would be a good start. At the very worst, a web development article on the blog soliciting feedback and the 150 ensuing posts would give a good idea on what people are after (though I suspect you have a decent idea already).


Here's my request.....I'd like a computer morphed, merged face dealy-o of Charlton Heston and Gary Oldman for this avatar.

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Gary Teter wrote:
You still need a usable universe of tag assignments before releasing a feature like that. An empty tagging system is like a warehouse full of empty shelves. People come in to check it out, click a few things, and wander off. If you start with a reasonably complete coverage of tagged items then people are much more likely to use the system.

*cough*

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Yeah maybe that was a little mean. I feel kind of guilty about those responses. But it really was a ton of work to get done.

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