Then if we are talking about the remaster book being included in subscription shipments, the answer is yes and every subscriber who doesn’t want the remaster does need to contact customer service to avoid being shipped a copy.
Well, Paizo could spend a little time fixing this on their end. Or they could have their CS spend hundreds of hours fixing individual accounts and responding to emails, especially in the mad rush in January when lots of people get the email and all contact customer service at once. Not to mention the people who maybe don't check the emails thoroughly because they've been subscribers for years and have never ever had the same book shipped to them twice, and will receive a book they already have and then ask to send it back at Paizo's expense since Paizo is the one that sent them the same book twice by mistake.
Or, like I said, Paizo can just spend a little time to fix the error on their end before then.
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I just want to check something:
If I buy the Pre-Master version of the Guns & Gears, then when the Remaster comes out in January, it will automatically update to the Remastered version?
If you get the .PDF, you'll get the Remastered .PDF as well. They've done the same with the Beginner Box.
I really wish SoT would get some too, so Summoner and Magus get get a bit of polish pass. But given all the lore of magic that'd need rewriting that...would be a lot of work
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I really wish SoT would get some too, so Summoner and Magus get get a bit of polish pass. But given all the lore of magic that'd need rewriting that...would be a lot of workG&G was out of print. SoM is not yet. That's probably the main factor TBH.
Will it ever ? I guess I have to order a dozen copies lol
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Should we expect to see a Remastered version of Secrets of Magic or Book of the Dead then?The remastered game is still 98% the same game with tweaks for licensing, errata, and the occasional glow up. It would probably be good for folks to keep that in mind, yes.
Assumedly when/if they go out of print. Though SoM specifically strikes me as needing a little bit more than a small touch-up so there's a good chance that one will end up taking longer (though the end product might also be more exciting so I guess it's a fair trade-off)
So that's what all the humble bundles selling obsolete or soon-to-be-obsolete books are trying to do! I know that came across as sarcastic but I'm not at all against it, I get that Paizo needs to move stock somehow, and it's useful for me to get my hands on a bunch of books for cheap so I want more of them actually.
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I am sorry if this has already been answered but:
If I already have the old version, will I have to purchase the new version to get the updated PDF? I really don’t wan to be charged for this book. I have no intention of paying $70 for minor fixes I can get from Pathbuilder and AoN.
It's been answered a few times, but here's one more for ya': If you already own the pre-Remaster Guns & Gears .PDF, you'll receive the Remastered version of the Guns & Gears .PDF for free. You'll have access to both versions in your account, much like what they did with the Beginner Box.
If you're asking about the physical books, that's not the case. You will not receive another physical book for the Remastered version of Guns & Gears, nor will you get a free .PDF if you only own the physical copy of the pre-Remastered version but not the .PDF.
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Thanks,
I am a rulebook subscriber and I don't want to be automatically charged for a new book if I don't really need it.
I am sorry if this has already been answered but:
If I already have the old version, will I have to purchase the new version to get the updated PDF? I really don’t wan to be charged for this book. I have no intention of paying $70 for minor fixes I can get from Pathbuilder and AoN.
It's been answered a few times, but here's one more for ya': If you already own the pre-Remaster Guns & Gears .PDF, you'll receive the Remastered version of the Guns & Gears .PDF for free. You'll have access to both versions in your account, much like what they did with the Beginner Box.
If you're asking about the physical books, that's not the case. You will not receive another physical book for the Remastered version of Guns & Gears, nor will you get a free .PDF if you only own the physical copy of the pre-Remastered version but not the .PDF.
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Hey folks,
Just dropping in to clear up some confusion. While this book was initially set up as being part of the Pathfinder Rulebook subscription, it has now been removed from that line. This book will NOT be part of the Pathfinder Rulebook subscription. If you've already canceled your subscription because of this misunderstanding, you should be able to restart with either War of Immortals or NPC Core on the subscription page here. If you have any troubles with that, please contact our Customer Service department.
Also, to answer some questions about the digital version, we should be following the same protocol we did with the Remastered Beginner Box. That is, both versions of the PDF will be attached to one another in such a way that anybody who has the Guns & Gears download will have access to both versions. Once I've uploaded the updated version of the PDF, I'll be sending out an email notification to inform folks that the new version is available.
Sorry again for the confusion!
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Very welcome news, indeed. This probably should be put into the page advertisement blurb, though, because down here this comment will probably be lost on a good number of people who are weighing wether to cancel their suscription for a month.
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While this book was initially set up as being part of the Pathfinder Rulebook subscription, it has now been removed from that line. This book will NOT be part of the Pathfinder Rulebook subscription.
While thankful of the removal, I have a question: if a Rulebook Subscriber didn't have the initial release of Guns & Gears or its pdf, would adding a physical copy while having the active Rulebook Subscription be granted a pdf copy of the book when it released?
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As it stands now, I don't see a pdf listed. So, Paizo, will there be one?
Since it's no longer a subscription item, I suppose if I want both a hardcover and a pdf, I'll have to order them separately. Is that the case? No, I see from Katina's post that since I already have the original G&G pdf, I'll get the remastered one automagically. Good.
I gather there still be standard, special, and sketch cover editions of this, per the Release Schedule.
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This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me. I've been considering cancelling all my subscriptions and just buying pdfs as they become available. I don't really want to do that, but I'm running out of room for actual books here. And the (mild, I admit) annoyance of having to preorder the hardcovers my OCD insists I need in spite of running out of space is at least enough to make me think about it. :-(
I wonder if the same thing will happen with a Remastered Secrets of Magic, assuming such a thing becomes reality.
This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me. I've been considering cancelling all my subscriptions and just buying pdfs as they become available. I don't really want to do that, but I'm running out of room for actual books here. And the (mild, I admit) annoyance of having to preorder the hardcovers my OCD insists I need in spite of running out of space is at least enough to make me think about it. :-(
I wonder if the same thing will happen with a Remastered Secrets of Magic, assuming such a thing becomes reality.
Ah, but do you have the overwhelming need to bring all of those books with you to every game, even when you know that you won't need half of them?
Ah, but do you have the overwhelming need to bring all of those books with you to every game, even when you know that you won't need half of them?
Nope.
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As it stands now, I don't see a pdf listed. So, Paizo, will there be one?
Since it's no longer a subscription item, I suppose if I want both a hardcover and a pdf, I'll have to order them separately. Is that the case? No, I see from Katina's post that since I already have the original G&G pdf, I'll get the remastered one automagically. Good.
I gather there still be standard, special, and sketch cover editions of this, per the Release Schedule.
In reply to your first question there, from what I've seen the webstore never lists PDF pricing or availability until a week or so before release date. So that's fairly usual for it not to be listed yet on this page.
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That kind of sucks though for anyone without the original book. Random fluke to even check the forum posts to see it's not going to be in the subscription. Will you still offer a free PDF copy for ordering the hardcopy? Main reason for keeping the subscription at all.I agree, the whole reason I have the subscription is to not worry about making sure I need to get these releases, and the free pdf included.
I was curious what all had been revealed regarding the changes to the book and just happened to read these comments, if I hadn't I wouldn't have know until my book never was shipped. I think if this becomes the norm for future remaster rulebooks I would also have to cancel.
I understand I may be biased, but I think just asking the people who didn't want a copy to message support was better than preventing all those without one from getting the pdf included.
The problem is that this book was part of a subscription already. This isn't like Player Core and GM Core where it's a total reworking of the book, its more akin to a reprint with an errata pass. So keeping it in the subscription would mean that those of use who already have the hardcover either have to manually ask Paizo Customer Service to skip this one (and potentially temporarily lose benefits tied to holding a certain amount of subscriptions) or eat the extra money for a new printing of a book we already have.
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I can see the perspective of people complaining, but doing it any other way than the way it is already being done would just be ridiculous.
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is secret of magic next or Dark archive?
I sure hope so. I'd love a remastering of those books just for continuity.
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is secret of magic next or Dark archive?I sure hope so. I'd love a remastering of those books just for continuity.
To be fair, unlike GnG, SoM did have quite a bit more stuff in it locked behind the OGL, and there are already pieces of it confirmed to have been remastered in other books (see Lost Omens: Rival Academies and the Runelord Remaster) so I wouldn't be surprised if a DA remaster, or a remaster of TV or BotD comes first. I also would not be surprised if SoM doesn't get a direct remaster, rather having the Magus and Summoner show up in their errata-d state in another upcoming book with some of the other stuff from Secrets of Magic, possibly some of the missing stuff from the APG (since class archetypes are becoming more of a thing a remaster [and rename] of the Eldritch Trickster [Arcane Scoundrel?] as a Class Archetype might fit) and other magic related stuff. A sort of half-remaster half new stuff book. Mind you some of this is just wishful thinking but with the missing stuff still not remastered from the APG that alongside the fact that SoM has kinda been gutted a bit, I wouldn't be surprised if that book got a more loose remaster. Plus, since at some point this post became me just saying things I'd want and not things that are guaranteed to happen, I wonder if the Summoner in this theoretical book would get a few new abilities now that the Conjurer wizard doesn't exist, similar to how since Necromancer isn't a Wizard Subclass anymore, Paizo made a whole Necromancer class. (And also the reason I'm now holding out hope for Mesmerist to return now that the Enchanter/Enchantress wizard is no more)
Yeah I definitely lost the plot at some point with this post
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Personally, and maybe this isn't the best place to put this, but personally, I would just as soon that no settings book should contain any rules elements at all. Strictly "here's Absalom (or Kyonin or Varisia or Brevoy or whatever)" or "here's what we think we know about the gods" or whatever else about the setting, but nothing about character or class options or any other rules element. Seems way too late for that now though. :-(
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Personally, and maybe this isn't the best place to put this, but personally, I would just as soon that no settings book should contain any rules elements at all. Strictly "here's Absalom (or Kyonin or Varisia or Brevoy or whatever)" or "here's what we think we know about the gods" or whatever else about the setting, but nothing about character or class options or any other rules element. Seems way too late for that now though. :-(
Hard disagree. I vastly prefer rules and setting be pretty tightly coupled.
Anyone know if Brigh will get any new information in this book? I would love to see more about her influence in the world & see her elevate into a major deity.
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Anyone know if Brigh will get any new information in this book? I would love to see more about her influence in the world & see her elevate into a major deity.
This is only a reprinting that update the rules to the remaster, so a "big" errata, but still an errata. So no, no new lore or content, unless it replace something that had to be removed because of OGL, and when it happens, they will replace it with something similar (so a removed feat would be replaced by a different feat, not lore about a deity.)
Anyone know if Brigh will get any new information in this book? I would love to see more about her influence in the world & see her elevate into a major deity.This is only a reprinting that update the rules to the remaster, so a "big" errata, but still an errata. So no, no new lore or content, unless it replace something that had to be removed because of OGL, and when it happens, they will replace it with something similar (so a removed feat would be replaced by a different feat, not lore about a deity.)
Thank you much!
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A PC3 has been deconfirmed, multiple times if I'm not mistaken. If you want up to date versions of things without paying, Archives of Nethys is right there and will supposedly catch up with releases soon.
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Paizo doesn't want (at least that's the last version) to have more Core books, so PC3 is not gonna happen.
I wouldn't discount future "core" books in general. NPC Core came out of nowhere, for one, and I definitely think more Monster Cores are on the table if for no other reason than to get even more of the old creatures from the old bestiaries up to date. That is, unless they call future Bestiaries something else (such as, well, Bestiary). More player-facing core books are probably not happening though, in particular PC3.
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Are we getting any previews of any of the updated or new stuff from this book? I know it is mostly reprints or updates but would love to see something.