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I'll freely admit to not having read through the entire book yet, but I've found two items that will likely need an errata entry at some point.
The first is on Titanic Momentum under Solarians as it calls it out as a graviton revelation but later indicate the benefit lasts 1 round or until you leave photon mode.
The second is in the section on the specialized uses of Resolve points. Quick Fusion does not take into account the errata to CRB that already changed the fusion seal activation time from 24 hours to 10 minutes.
There could be more I haven't seen yet, but, that's what I've seen so far.
On the whole, I'm happy with what's in this book and have already purchased the boon for the additional specialized Resolve use for my characters and will probably get one to make a Novian while I'm at it!
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Adyton |
I'd be surprised if a PF3 was on the way anytime soon, especially at a time when PF2 is seeing such massive success.
We certainly don't live on the same planet. Or was it an ironic joke?
Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:Starfinder Unchained! So, SF2 is not far behind :)God, I hope not.
It would be catastrophic!
Ravien999 wrote:Why? A SF2 based on PF2 and fixing some of the biggest issues with the rules (lack of scaling cantrips, starship combat, Ivory Tower design) is quite a frequent call around here.Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:Starfinder Unchained! So, SF2 is not far behind :)God, I hope not.
SF with the rules of PF2, horror, horror! This new system had some good ideas, but so many many more bad ones. These rules are indigestible.
Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:The same is true on the other side of the house. Not wanting a 2e because the design philosophies don't match up with the flavor.Ravien999 wrote:Why? A SF2 based on PF2 and fixing some of the biggest issues with the rules (lack of scaling cantrips, starship combat, Ivory Tower design) is quite a frequent call around here.Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:Starfinder Unchained! So, SF2 is not far behind :)God, I hope not.
I agree with that. With my group we attempted the Pathfinder second edition adventure. We couldn't even convert our PF1 characters to PF2 characters, no conversion was possible. Even an adaptation of character concepts was either unfeasible or only at very high levels.
This book will likely address a lot of the above, but still, give me PF2-based SF2, maybe with some small differences (Stamina system and ABP as default in SF2?). This will also let Paizo have one engine for both games, meaning designers no longer would have to switch between PF2 and SF1 thinking.
So a very very imperfect engine, rejected by a majority of fans of PF1 and 3.5 but compatible with two games, would it be better than two different engines, one of which having had the biggest success in thirty years in the Science Fiction/Cyberpunk RPG and compatible with Star Wars D20?
I'm rather waiting for a PF3/SF3 fully compatible with PF1 and SF1. As well as derived rules for playing in a contemporary universe. And a PC video game from Owlcat Games on Starfinder 1E. Until then I would keep my money, rather than investing in PF2 or SF2. I will probably not be back until PF3/SF3. Or Shadowfinder?
I could see Starfinder surviving a lot longer on patches than PF1 could. The system is a lot more stable than PF1 was.
While some of PF2's innovations are great, not all of them fit what Starfinder needs.
Not all of them fit what Pathfinder's needs either.
Personally, if I found out that SF 2E was definitely coming in 3 years I'd just be relieved to be secure in the knowledge that SF 1E would still be going until then.
Nighthorror888 wrote:It's sad looking back at this. Enhanced seemed like such a glimmer of hope, like Paizo was fixing Starfinder and breathing new life into it, without needing to jump editions.I offer a more optimistic perspective. We are doing both. This book will empower Starfinder First Edition play for years to come.
I love Starfinder 1E too and hope it lasts a long time thanks to the Starfinder Enhanced supplement, which I would probably buy.
https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sidk?Starfinder-Second-Edition-is -Coming
so after all the "no SF2e" SF2e is now announced. And will be based on PF2e. So where does that put Starfinder Enhanced?
Wow! So soon after the release of the last class: the evolutionist? So soon after the last campaign? So soon after the last alien races released? So soon after Starfinder Enhanced? Commercially speaking, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Especially if it's a Starfinder with PF2 rules.
Pathfinder 2e shares so much DNA with D&D 4e it's almost 4.5
So PF2 shares as much DNA as the worst-selling version of D&D in D&D history? Will PF2/SF2 share the same fate?
Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.
I am sad about this announcement, but I am not crying. Because for four years PF2 allowed me to make savings in my role-playing budget, to be able to concentrate my purchases on Starfinder 1E. So I'm smiling because the release of SF2 will allow me to save more while waiting for the release of PF3, SF3, Shadowfinder and the possible release of a Starfinder PC video game.