Pathfinder Adventure Path: Fists of the Ruby Phoenix

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Anybody wanting to list if there are minor differences between old and new print? :O

Edit: Only on purchase of pdf I remembered that "oh wait that was still the placeholder image"

Anybody wanting to list if there are minor differences between old and new print? :O

Found the following:

Sixth pillar mastery, changed from feat 16 to feat 14, reworked. If you hit with an unarmed attack the enemy gets a -1 status to saves until next turn, if you hit with a spell you get a +1 status to unarmed attack rolls.

Touch focus, changed from feat 14 to feat 16 and it's now a free action.

All weapons in the book are now Common.

New advanced weapon: Feng huo lun 2 gp 1d4 S L 1 Knife Agile, disarm, finesse, monk, parry, twin, versatile P

Buff to Leiomano, instead of Deadly d10 it's now Fatal d10.

Also:

Part one, chapter 2 still doesn't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...) for any of the encounters.

Part two, chapter 1 ICEFANG AERIE encounter still listed as moderate 16 instead of moderate 15.

Part 3, chapter 1 most of the encounters still don't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...)

Is the Feng Huo Lun a rename of the Butterfly Blade? ALso is Wind and Fire Wheel changed?

Also is the Sixth Pillar Dedication changed?

Part one, chapter 2 still doesn't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...) for any of the encounters.

This one is actually intentional; since that chapter takes place over 2 character levels, the chapter notes that those headings are excluded in that chapter since they would end up assuming the wrong player level a good deal of the time.

Not sure why they're missing in part 3, chapter 1 though.

Is the Feng Huo Lun a rename of the Butterfly Blade? ALso is Wind and Fire Wheel changed?

Also is the Sixth Pillar Dedication changed?

A quick Google search reveals Feng Huo Lun is another name for the Wind and Fire Wheels. So it looks like they got nerf'd down from a 1d6 die to a 1d4 die.

Onkonk wrote:

Is the Feng Huo Lun a rename of the Butterfly Blade? ALso is Wind and Fire Wheel changed?

Also is the Sixth Pillar Dedication changed?

A quick Google search reveals Feng Huo Lun is another name for the Wind and Fire Wheels. So it looks like they got nerf'd down from a 1d6 die to a 1d4 die.

Huh, those are the exact same stats as the butterfly swords though. Unless those were changed too.

The weapons are:

Martial:

Kusarigama 2 gp 1d8 S 1 2 Knife Disarm, monk, reach, trip, versatile B
Leiomano 2 gp 1d6 B 1 1 Club Fatal d10, versatile S

Advanced:

Butterfly sword 2 gp 1d4 S L 1 Sword Agile, disarm, finesse, monk, parry, twin
Feng huo lun 2 gp 1d4 S L 1 Knife Agile, disarm, finesse, monk, parry, twin, versatile P
Hook sword 3 gp 1d6 S 1 1 Sword Disarm, monk, parry, trip, twin
Karambit 2 gp 1d4 P L 1 Knife Agile, fatal d8, finesse, versatile S

"Feng Huo Lun: Also known as wind and fire wheels, these large, flat steel rings feature several protruding blades typically stylized to resemble flames."

So it seems they replace the Wind and Fire Wheel.

Also is the Sixth Pillar Dedication changed?

Oh, missed two more changes.

Sixth Pillar Dedication is level 10 instead of 8.
Six Pillars Stance is level 12 instead of 10.

Maneuvering Spell is untouched.

This is in addition to the changes I said before.

I can confirm that the single file PDF download has now been fixed.

CorvusMask wrote:

Anybody wanting to list if there are minor differences between old and new print? :O

Found the following:

Sixth pillar mastery, changed from feat 16 to feat 14, reworked. If you hit with an unarmed attack the enemy gets a -1 status to saves until next turn, if you hit with a spell you get a +1 status to unarmed attack rolls.

Touch focus, changed from feat 14 to feat 16 and it's now a free action.

All weapons in the book are now Common.

New advanced weapon: Feng huo lun 2 gp 1d4 S L 1 Knife Agile, disarm, finesse, monk, parry, twin, versatile P

Buff to Leiomano, instead of Deadly d10 it's now Fatal d10.

Also:

Part one, chapter 2 still doesn't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...) for any of the encounters.

Part two, chapter 1 ICEFANG AERIE encounter still listed as moderate 16 instead of moderate 15.

Part 3, chapter 1 most of the encounters still don't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...)

Reread the paragraph before the weapons. They are common only if the PC come from Tian Xia, otherwise they are uncommon. (So they are effectively "Uncommon" with "Access: Tian Xian")

I agree that the way it's presented can be confused for someone looking for options not necessarily for that AP.

Zullock wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

Anybody wanting to list if there are minor differences between old and new print? :O

Found the following:

Sixth pillar mastery, changed from feat 16 to feat 14, reworked. If you hit with an unarmed attack the enemy gets a -1 status to saves until next turn, if you hit with a spell you get a +1 status to unarmed attack rolls.

Touch focus, changed from feat 14 to feat 16 and it's now a free action.

All weapons in the book are now Common.

New advanced weapon: Feng huo lun 2 gp 1d4 S L 1 Knife Agile, disarm, finesse, monk, parry, twin, versatile P

Buff to Leiomano, instead of Deadly d10 it's now Fatal d10.

Also:

Part one, chapter 2 still doesn't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...) for any of the encounters.

Part two, chapter 1 ICEFANG AERIE encounter still listed as moderate 16 instead of moderate 15.

Part 3, chapter 1 most of the encounters still don't have the difficulty listed (trivial, low, moderate,...)

Reread the paragraph before the weapons. They are common only if the PC come from Tian Xia, otherwise they are uncommon. (So they are effectively "Uncommon" with "Access: Tian Xian")

I agree that the way it's presented can be confused for someone looking for options not necessarily for that AP.

So not actually a change to rarity from the original release, then?

If you have the AP subscription and order the hardcover now, will the PDF come with it? Or has that ship sailed?

Will this now also get a foundry vtt treatment?

I can confirm that the single file PDF download has now been fixed.

It's still corrupted for me.

Zaister wrote:

I can confirm that the single file PDF download has now been fixed.

It's still corrupted for me.

You might need to click on the "Problems downloading this file? Click here." link to regenerate your download file.

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

And that’s why these aren’t guaranteed to happen.

keftiu wrote:

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Zennji wrote:

keftiu wrote:

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Wait, what?

Aaron Shanks wrote:

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We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Wait, what?

Starfinder is moving toward only publishing APs as full books. So what would be two 3 books APs released every 2 months, would instead release as a two full books every 6 months.

This was announced when Scoured Stars was, IIRC.

Well, that's something. Guess I got to check out the Starfinder forum section again. <blows away layers of dust>

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

If you really want to stop that purchase, send an email to customer.service@paizo.com with a subject line something like

"Order #XXXXXXXX: Duplicate Error"

Staff might be able to handle your request if you move quickly.

Nykrat wrote:

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

If you really want to stop that purchase, send an email to customer.service@paizo.com with a subject line something like

"Order #XXXXXXXX: Duplicate Error"

Staff might be able to handle your request if you move quickly.

I appreciate the suggestion. It was an FLGS purchase in meatspace.

Butterfly sword (as well as the other weapons from FotRP) were shown to have been re-printed in Treasure Vault. Butterfly sword has an additional trait there compared to here: It now also has the concealable trait.

The other weapons look identical from this release otherwise.

I hope that someday this sees a Foundry module!

I hope that someday this sees a Foundry module!

Seconding this. I know there was some talk of it before, hopefully some updates?

NotASeagull wrote:

I hope that someday this sees a Foundry module!

Seconding this. I know there was some talk of it before, hopefully some updates?

No updates to report regarding this AP. Foundry is working on Kingmaker and Paizo is working on Gatewalkers.

Zennji wrote:

keftiu wrote:

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Do we know which AP is getting the hardcover treatment next? Strength of Thousands?

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Zennji wrote:

keftiu wrote:

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Do we know which AP is getting the hardcover treatment next? Strength of Thousands?

No announcement. It won't be in 2023.

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Zennji wrote:

keftiu wrote:

I’m glad this did well enough for a hardcover!

If they were going to do this for all the adventure paths, I'd rather subscribe to one bound book than get the separate softcovers - even knowing I'd have to wait longer for it.

We are not doing hardcovers for all APs. Or hypothetically, if we did, the softcovers would go away entirely, which is what is happening for Starfinder.

Do we know which AP is getting the hardcover treatment next? Strength of Thousands?

Shame. As a natural follow up to Abomination Vaults, which has great Foundry module, I was also looking forward to seeing this.

Maybe after Kingmaker, which is a great campaign as well, we could see something.

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

Dang, was considering getting this but not having access to the lore of the regions makes it much less attractive. Can't really see myself trying to run an official adventure path without a good amount of info on the areas the players will be spending their time in.

Nykrat wrote:

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

Dang, was considering getting this but not having access to the lore of the regions makes it much less attractive. Can't really see myself trying to run an official adventure path without a good amount of info on the areas the players will be spending their time in.

We still don't know what 2023's big setting book will be, and there's one potential option that would certainly solve your complaint...

Both ersions are gorgeous!

The next Pathfinder Battles set coming out in july 2023 is called "Fists of the Ruby Phoenix" and is compromised out of four boxed sets and a premium miniature of the boss fight enemy, 27 minis all in all.

Included are (number from the pawn set):

Small:
04 Blue Viper (Lighthouse form)
07 Ran-To, Frost Goblin Wrestler

Medium:
22 Halspin the Stung, Catfolk beastsinger
23 Huldrin Skolsdottir, Ulfen Shieldmaiden
26 Provincial Jiang-Shi vampire
27 Jin-Hae
39 Manananggal
40 Golden League Xun (Kitsune)
45 Razu, Tengu bard
46 Rivka
51 Syndara, the Sculptor
53 Syu Tak-Nwa, White Haired Witch
56 Takatara (Daitengu form)
65 Yabin the Just
66 Yarrika, Biting Rose

Large:
75 Koto Zekora, Onidashi Sorcerer
77 Rai-Sho Postulant, Yeti Monk
78 Shadow Yai
80 Tamikan, Kongamato Predator (the mini seems to be on a medium base)

Huge:
88 Taiga Yai

GARGANTUAN:
Syndara the Sculptor (final form)

In addition the following minis (all medium) are not in the pawn set:

-Ghost Eater Monk (green skinned orc)
-Hao-Jin, Ruby Phoenix sorcerer (red haired female)
-Irori, god of perfection
-Brartork, Golarion's Finest (male barbarian)
-Enforcer Warrior (female Tian human)
-Mud Wretch (red-brown monster)

The four boxes cost from msrp $50 (six minis including the two small ones), msrp $60 (six medium minis) and $80 (seven minis including a large and a huge mini and seven minis including two large minis).

The gargantuan boss mini costs $45.

Milo v3 wrote:

Nykrat wrote:

Whoops…I made the blind purchase thinking that all the back articles would be included. Jokes on me, I guess. Looks like Im purchasing this AP twice. I’m going to take a wild guess and say Kingmaker, Dead Suns & Abomination Vaults are all without the articles contained in the back of the softcovers?

Dang, was considering getting this but not having access to the lore of the regions makes it much less attractive. Can't really see myself trying to run an official adventure path without a good amount of info on the areas the players will be spending their time in.

We still don't know what 2023's big setting book will be, and there's one potential option that would certainly solve your complaint...

Looks like you were precognitive. ;-)

For those like myself who are hopeful for a premium module on Foundry, it looks like the teams are working on Gatewalkers and Kingmaker at the moment. I found this by searching the Foundry discord's Pf2e channel.

Yes, absolutely. There are a number of us here absolutely keen to play Ruby Phoenix, but it seems unlikely to happen unless a Foundry module occurs. "Dear Paizo, please consider a Ruby Phoenix premium Foundry module..."

Aside from putting them all together, are there any changes to the adventures themselves, even small things? (For instance did they fix the issue where the Sixth Pillar Students have 8th level spells in 7th level slots?)

Aside from putting them all together, are there any changes to the adventures themselves, even small things? (For instance did they fix the issue where the Sixth Pillar Students have 8th level spells in 7th level slots?)

From what I've seen, there's a few very small changes, like the wind and fire wheel being renamed to the feng huo lun, but aside from those few small things the text is pretty much identical, including the Sixth Pillar Student stat block you reference as well as an NPC's name being spelled two different ways in different places in the text.

So seems like it's just the player-facing stuff that's changed then.

*casts raise thread*

Is there any word on the premium Foundry module? I'm preparing this campaign and I like the Blood Lords modules.

A premium Foundry module for this AP has never been announced. I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for it right now.