Any idea when knights of last call will do their preview?
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Really Dicey's preview of the Secrets of Crafting chapter:
"The Secrets of Crafting Revealed - Exploring Treasure Vault for Pathfinder Second Edition".
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Preview: The Secrets of Crafting Revealed - Exploring Treasure Vault for Pathfinder Second Edition from Really Dicey!
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The Rules Lawyer will preview the "Momentary Magic" chapter before subscribers start getting their PDFs.
The Rules Lawyer will preview the "Momentary Magic" chapter before subscribers start getting their PDFs.
Not to sound greedy, but do we know if anyone will be reviewing the Trappings of Power chapter?
Also, Thank you Paizo for all of the awesome stuff you guys have put out with this book!
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The Rules Lawyer will preview the "Momentary Magic" chapter before subscribers start getting their PDFs.Not to sound greedy, but do we know if anyone will be reviewing the Trappings of Power chapter?
Also, Thank you Paizo for all of the awesome stuff you guys have put out with this book!
It is currently unclaimed. Hiring more staff is actual more important that proving the last chapter at this point, in the long run. Thanks!
I would like to trap some power!
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knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprint
knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprint
The Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
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Knights of Last Call will preview the Armor and Armament chapter of Treasure Vault.
The Secrets of Crafting video has been recorded by ReallyDicey. They are hoping to have it edited and released online by this Monday.
WE HAVE YESDACHI!!! I REPEAT, WE HAVE YESDACHI!!!!
(also, a lot of other sick looking stuff, the spark guns look great, the other weapons, and I'm enraptured by some of the new armors thematically... scroll robes are a big win for caster fantasy too, and magic item 'sets' that are meant to be used across multiple party members is perfect, there's so much here we spent a good portion of last night going over it with a fine tooth comb)
knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?
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The Thrower's Bandolier was previewed in the blog today. And a couple other items (one already shown in the KoLC preview).
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Knights of Last Call preview the Armor and Armament chapter of Treasure Vault.
Note: we received feedback about the tone of this preview. We know that the Knights are passionate and critical ttrpg players and we don't expect all previews to be raves.
But, I have to take ownership of this. In my haste to get keep previews going while managing the OGL situation I did not clearly communicate two things. The first is that we prefer previews to be a showcase of what the portion of the product is and to save opinions for reviews that cover the whole product.
Second, Paizo does not want previews that contain page-by-page video or screenshots. The error was mine in that I did not communicate our expected limits to the previewer. Future previews with some screen-sharing will continue, say 20%. Entire chapters of our art and lore that allow for screen capture should not happen. It will be a portion—enough to get help you get to know the product and get excited.
You will find I did not share these guidelines with Nonat1s either. My mistake.
That said, I don't want to keep this preview content away from you.
Also, we have this in-house preview blog: Varmints in the Vaults
Thank for your interest, enthusiasm, and thanks for playing Pathfinder.
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Reviewers being critical no one has a problem with, it’s reviewers outright insulting the writers and making statements (read, more insults) on a complete misunderstanding of the rules they’re supposed to be reviewing that people take issue with.
Fair. And I am in conversation with them.
knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.
At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?
Barricade buster is 40ft range with 20ft volley (so it really has to be used at 20-40 ft). So it’s a whole heck of a lot harder to use in most fights.
Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.
At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?Barricade buster is 40ft range with 20ft volley (so it really has to be used at 20-40 ft). So it’s a whole heck of a lot harder to use in most fights.
Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
To be fair, Kickback and Propulsive are deceptively similar, but the Barricade Buster is more a 25-40 ft weapon since you take the penalty at 20 ft as well.
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...Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
Phalanx Piercer - I still don't see the case to use it over Composite Longbow. You can use some of the gunslinger feats for it but why would you? Gunslingers are not made for bows. If it was a crossbow, then maybe, but it's not.
Longbow has longer range + deadly d10, so damage wise it's not that different. Eldritch archer power comes from the spellstrike, the biggest part of it is spell damage, not bow damage die - and you can use longbow better as eldritch archer cause you don't have to spend your actions on reload.
As I said - I don't really see any build which would use this bow at all, even if it was a martial weapon, and it's not - it's an advanced weapon.
Maybe I'm missing something, would be glad to be corrected. I was just really looking forward to hobgoblin weapons finally and I'm a bit disappointed. So we're having hobgoblin weapons now, but who's going to use them?
...Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.Phalanx Piercer - I still don't see the case to use it over Composite Longbow. You can use some of the gunslinger feats for it but why would you? Gunslingers are not made for bows. If it was a crossbow, then maybe, but it's not.
Longbow has longer range + deadly d10, so damage wise it's not that different. Eldritch archer power comes from the spellstrike, the biggest part of it is spell damage, not bow damage die - and you can use longbow better as eldritch archer cause you don't have to spend your actions on reload.
As I said - I don't really see any build which would use this bow at all, even if it was a martial weapon, and it's not - it's an advanced weapon.
Maybe I'm missing something, would be glad to be corrected. I was just really looking forward to hobgoblin weapons finally and I'm a bit disappointed. So we're having hobgoblin weapons now, but who's going to use them?
"I still don't see a use for it over composite longbow"
As opposed to what weapon?Even firearms don't outperform them in raw damage. It's not really a problem of the phalanx piercer which has its well stated use in the name (break shields) but an issue of bows basically being over powered.
quick math for attacking assuming all crits.
arquebus- reload0 fatal and kickback, 2 crits= 6d12+2=min 8/max 74 damage
longbow deadly d10 reload0, 3 crits= 6d8+3d10=min 9/max 78
That said, I suggested the crossbow feats because, yes it might "looks like a bow". But aside from that it loses all effect of "bow like mechanics" in the game.
Bows up till this point- all have reload 0. arrows are never left knocked, all in the bow weapon group.
Crossbows up till this point- all have reload >0 , someone must knock a bolt in before firing, all in the bow weapon group.
Phalanx piercer- has reload 1 (>0), must knock a bolt (its ammo is bolts) in before firing, and in the bow weapon group.
I understand fully that someone might say no, but the definition of crossbow is somewhat gray in this game (see the taw launcher). So it's worth asking the gm if possible.
Elsewise, keep a longbow. have this as a situational backup because 80 ft range and razing is a massive utility. (bear in mind it does 3d10 damage against objects)
-shielded enemies-> no more shield
-enemies with cover-> no more cover
-someone closes a door-> no more door
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Also sweet got my shipping confirmation
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To be fair, Kickback and Propulsive are deceptively similar, but the Barricade Buster is more a 25-40 ft weapon since you take the penalty at 20 ft as well.knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.
At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?Barricade buster is 40ft range with 20ft volley (so it really has to be used at 20-40 ft). So it’s a whole heck of a lot harder to use in most fights.
Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
Yeah, though there are feats that can help with that, there's a level 4 ranger feat (so level 8 for a gunslinger who is multiclassing) that lets you double your range increments, I don't remember if there are other avenues for doing that, but 25-80 is much more manageable for it. Fortunately, I think there's a meta of build options here to expect great things from the Barricade Buster if it's set up, and even the default gun's range isn't exactly unusable.
Edit: Ooh, [url=https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=3259] Triangulate works too by letting you ignore the penalty in your second increment so long as you and the spotter can both see them.
Yeah, though there are feats that can help with that, there's a level 4 ranger feat (so level 8 for a gunslinger who is multiclassing) that lets you double your range increments, I don't remember if there are other avenues for doing that, but 25-80 is much more manageable for it....To be fair, Kickback and Propulsive are deceptively similar, but the Barricade Buster is more a 25-40 ft weapon since you take the penalty at 20 ft as well.knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.
At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?Barricade buster is 40ft range with 20ft volley (so it really has to be used at 20-40 ft). So it’s a whole heck of a lot harder to use in most fights.
Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
I've been speccing up a construct turret inventor with a barricade buster as their weapon of choice. Ranger with Far Shot is very likely what I'll pencil in, as Hunt Prey also gives you the ability to ignore the penalty in the first range increment (but Far Shot is still great for extending that further and it I manage to sneak in Fake Out).
Yeah, though there are feats that can help with that, there's a level 4 ranger feat (so level 8 for a gunslinger who is multiclassing) that lets you double your range increments, I don't remember if there are other avenues for doing that, but 25-80 is much more manageable for it....To be fair, Kickback and Propulsive are deceptively similar, but the Barricade Buster is more a 25-40 ft weapon since you take the penalty at 20 ft as well.knights of last call preview is there and Phalanx Piercer is reload(1) bow. Still hope it's a misprintThe Phalanx Piercer is described as being absolutely massive. I don't think it's a misprint, considering how hard it hits (1d10 + Propulsive + Razing + Concussive) and the flavor of the writeup.
Sort of a Hawkeye Gough situation, as it were.
Ok, but what is the use case? I can't think of any build where this bow is actually useful.
You have to take feat to use it. If you attack multiple times per turn then it's easier to use a longbow or one of the new bows from the Treasure Vault than spend an action on reload. Maybe gunslinger? but I don't think it'll be better than using fatal weapons.
At the same time, Barricade Buster is reload 0?Barricade buster is 40ft range with 20ft volley (so it really has to be used at 20-40 ft). So it’s a whole heck of a lot harder to use in most fights.
Phalanx piercer is basically double that range with propulsive built in. Lager range and more potential damage on top.
Build wise since it has a reload speed, your gm would probably allow you to use the ranger/gunslinger crossbow feats to get some extra power out of it. Or you can build into eldritch archer and use this for one extra meaty starting shot in combat.
Razing also makes it situationally good since it can destroy shields, structures(locked doors), and even some traps at a safe distance.
A good note. I would also add the ranger dedication also grants hunt prey which would ignore the penalties for firing in the second range increment for the target specified in hunt prey.
good to get it out of the way entirely with far shot but thought this might help at early levels.Am definitely going to make an orc vanguard and use this gun to all its dakka means
Phalanx Piercer - I still don't see the case to use it over Composite Longbow. You can use some of the gunslinger feats for it but why would you? Gunslingers are not made for bows. If it was a crossbow, then maybe, but it's not.
But it is a crossbow, it uses Bolts as ammunition.
Bolts, from the core rulebook: "Shorter than traditional arrows but similar in construction, bolts are the ammunition used by crossbows."
Phalanx Piercer - I still don't see the case to use it over Composite Longbow. You can use some of the gunslinger feats for it but why would you? Gunslingers are not made for bows. If it was a crossbow, then maybe, but it's not.But it is a crossbow, it uses Bolts as ammunition.
Bolts, from the core rulebook: "Shorter than traditional arrows but similar in construction, bolts are the ammunition used by crossbows."
definition of a crossbow is somehow vague in pf2e, but based on the picture I've seen it's not a crossbow.
definition of a crossbow is somehow vague in pf2e, but based on the picture I've seen it's not a crossbow.Phalanx Piercer - I still don't see the case to use it over Composite Longbow. You can use some of the gunslinger feats for it but why would you? Gunslingers are not made for bows. If it was a crossbow, then maybe, but it's not.But it is a crossbow, it uses Bolts as ammunition.
Bolts, from the core rulebook: "Shorter than traditional arrows but similar in construction, bolts are the ammunition used by crossbows."
I mean, RAW, if anything uses bolts, IT IS a crossbow. It's the ammunition used by crossbows, quoted from the book. Some other weapons, like the taw launcher, can also be crossbow even if they don't use Bolts, but they should be marked as such (like in that case).
EDIT: Even though the weapon looks like a bow, mechanically it should be counted as a crossbow since it uses bolts, I think that is the reason they gave it bolts instead of arrows or "big arrows" or whatever.
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I mean, RAW, if anything uses bolts, IT IS a crossbow. It's the ammunition used by crossbows, quoted from the book. Some other weapons, like the taw launcher, can also be crossbow even if they don't use Bolts, but they should be marked as such (like in that case).
EDIT: Even though the weapon looks like a bow, mechanically it should be counted as a crossbow since it uses bolts, I think that is the reason they gave it bolts instead of arrows or "big arrows" or whatever.
It's an interesting point, so it is RAW a crossbow then crossbow feats can be used with it as well.
I still can't think about any particular build to use it honestly. If you want to use a crossbow you can use new Sukgung and gain Fatal Aim d12, and you don't need to spend a feat to make advanced weapons work.
I still can't think about any particular build to use it honestly. If you want to use a crossbow you can use new Sukgung and gain Fatal Aim d12, and you don't need to spend a feat to make advanced weapons work.
On that, I am 100% with you. Volley reduces it effectiveness greatly and while Concussive and Propulsive are good traits (Razing seems meh), I don't think they make up for that. It's a cool weapon if you want to cosplay as an Anor Londo archer from DS1 hahaha.
Maybe if you have sniping duo you can make it work.
I still can't think about any particular build to use it honestly. If you want to use a crossbow you can use new Sukgung and gain Fatal Aim d12, and you don't need to spend a feat to make advanced weapons work.On that, I am 100% with you. Volley reduces it effectiveness greatly and while Concussive and Propulsive are good traits (Razing seems meh), I don't think they make up for that. It's a cool weapon if you want to cosplay as an Anor Londo archer from DS1 hahaha.
Maybe if you have sniping duo you can make it work.
I was particularly looking forward to using this weapon for my hobgoblin investigator, cause I don't care that much about deadly, with stratagem you can always try to get around volley and I was looking forward to finally using Hobgoblin Weapon Familiarity feat. It lost a lot of its appeal with this reload 1 though but I'll probably try it anyway, will see how it works.
Looks like Rules Lawyer also didn't get the memo that he shouldn't show whole pages.
Anyone got their .pdf yet?
Anyone got their .pdf yet?
Usually there is a quick post in the shipping thread when warehouse has been given the all clear to send out orders. That hasn't happened yet, so (probably) nothing shipped quite yet.
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Looks like Rules Lawyer also didn't get the memo that he shouldn't show whole pages.
I mean, we'll have this conversation with each reviewer, but to clarify for fans, some whole pages are great. We want to to get a taste of our rules, lore, and art. We will avoid every page in a chapter in the future. I happen to like the 20 minute length that Rules Lawyer made, but that is up to each content creator.
You all are great. Thanks :)
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Anyone got their .pdf yet?
Just got mine!
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Anyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!
If I may ask, What artifacts did we get?
I've been hoping for the Book of the Damned(Complete) and the Shadowstaff. I have a campaign planned around those two.
Anyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!If I may ask, What artifacts did we get?
I've been hoping for the Book of the Damned(Complete) and the Shadowstaff. I have a campaign planned around those two.
No such luck for those specific items I'm afraid. But we do have deific items for Cayden Cailean, Desna, Irori, Shelyn (which is suprisingly metal). Some star guns, a ring from an fey lord, and a shield made out of kaiju.
tell me if any of those interest you
Anyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!If I may ask, What artifacts did we get?
I've been hoping for the Book of the Damned(Complete) and the Shadowstaff. I have a campaign planned around those two.
No such luck for those specific items I'm afraid. But we do have deific items for Cayden Cailean, Desna, Irori, Shelyn (which is suprisingly metal). Some star guns, a ring from an fey lord, and a shield made out of kaiju.
I can expound if any of those interest you. But summarizing is a bit difficult.
Anyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!
Same! Time to dig in!
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shelyn please :) also they fey lord ringAnyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!If I may ask, What artifacts did we get?
I've been hoping for the Book of the Damned(Complete) and the Shadowstaff. I have a campaign planned around those two.
No such luck for those specific items I'm afraid. But we do have deific items for Cayden Cailean, Desna, Irori, Shelyn (which is suprisingly metal). Some star guns, a ring from an fey lord, and a shield made out of kaiju.
I can expound if any of those interest you. But summarizing is a bit difficult.
shelyn's glaive "The whisper of Souls" is a lv 28 +4 major striking, greater brilliant, keen glaive.
Which also traps souls with no way to remove them (not even wish). It is also implied to be connected to some great corrupting force which the souls go to in the big beyond. The implication being that thing corrupted Zon-Kuthon, and even millenia under shelyn couldn't un-screw it.Part of it's abilities even let you contact the thing, allowing you to learn serious info about evil stuff in general. (as legend lore, and possibly allowing a retraining for an evil lore). But it can literally make you evil if you aren't careful.
Shelyn will only lend it out to the most trustworthy individuals for extremely important quests, most likely looking for methods to "fix it".
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shelyn please :) also they fey lord ringAnyone got their .pdf yet?Just got mine!If I may ask, What artifacts did we get?
I've been hoping for the Book of the Damned(Complete) and the Shadowstaff. I have a campaign planned around those two.
No such luck for those specific items I'm afraid. But we do have deific items for Cayden Cailean, Desna, Irori, Shelyn (which is suprisingly metal). Some star guns, a ring from an fey lord, and a shield made out of kaiju.
I can expound if any of those interest you. But summarizing is a bit difficult.
Fey ring is the forgotten signet, tied to the lost prince. Wearing it constantly gives you mind blank, making you almost impossible to divinate.
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I watched the Knights of the Last Call video. The Treasure Vault information was great, but the reviewers didn't seem to be very familiar with PF2.
The Thrower's Bandolier was previewed in the blog today. And a couple other items (one already shown in the KoLC preview).
The Thrower's Bandolier really opens up some versatile thrown weapon builds. I'm very excited by it. :)
Pretty sure the answer is no as I've watched all the previews I think, but there's no items that allow weapons to become permanent part of your character like eldritch Nails/tattoo weapon runes/augments or similar?