Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Concordance of Rivals

Plus, IIRC, Jistkan Automatons are basically human/other souls and minds uploaded into Construct bodies. Which is a different kettle of fish from Outsiders who are created by their individual Outer Planes.

Will this book have anything for player characters/classes/races? Sometimes campaign setting books do have such things.

Yes, it will. Following the example set in Book of the Damned and Chronicle of the Righteous, this books features obediences for the demigods. There are also other options here and there, including a prestige class for followers of these demigods.

Luis,

Are you telling me there's a prestige class for Ceyanan the Shepard???

Much like the Demoniac, Diabolist, Mystery Cultist, and Souldrinker that came before, there will be a prestige class that is suited for worshipers of any monitor demigod, including followers of Ceyanan.

So do we have full list of psychopomp ushers somewhere anyway?

Ones I can think of are Dammar the Denied, Shadix Who Dreams, and Vonymos the Mourning Storm and everyone listed in bestiary

All I want to know is if there was enough space for an illustration of each deity and if there are cool monsters in the bestiary.

If it's set up like Chronicles of the Righteous and the Books of the Damned, then six of the demigods will be illustrated - 4 demigods per 2 page spread, with one illustration per spread.

I suspect it'll deliver on the monsters, though - Pathfinder's planar monsters are bonkers.

Come to think about it, do you think this book will include Kami Lords?

I mean, unless they introduce lot of new demigods fora ll mentioned categories, Monad is single one, we only know few named protean lords, no primal invetables and lot of ushers. So would make sense to include more misc demigod categories. Though I'm not really confident about Kami appearing since I don't think they count as "monitors" since they have all non evil alignments

I have no strong opinion on this one way or another -

The Neutral President

If it's set up like Chronicles of the Righteous and the Books of the Damned, then six of the demigods will be illustrated - 4 demigods per 2 page spread, with one illustration per spread.

I suspect it'll deliver on the monsters, though - Pathfinder's planar monsters are bonkers.

I'm actually taking the CotR as reference, in which 36 empyreal lords were covered, and 12 of them illustrated, in a total of 24 pages. There are 54 empyreal lords mentioned in that book.

There are 24 demigods in Concordance - as per the product description - so they could still use the same amount of pages to cover one deity per page with illustrations.

Although I'm managing my expectations...

lol I just want to see the writeup for Phlegyas, Consoler of Athiests and Saloc, Minder of Immortals.

I pray for a Phlegyas who is just a psychologist with glasses who spends most of eternity bent over a desk, his brow knitted as he rubs his temples beside a massive couch, where the newest soul lays as he tries to explain that the afterlife is real and so are the gods for the eighteen trillion, nine billion, four hundred and twelve million, six hundred twenty seven thousand, and eight time this month.

Give me the exasperated followers of the conselor.

A couple of questions.

Will there be Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel boons for each of the new deities like in the Book of the Damned, or will they be single boon setups for the new prestige class? It'd be a bit unfortunate to only be able to build into one prestige to get the boons instead of having options.

Will there be illustrations for each of the new deities? With 24 in the list, that theoretically is enough space.

Will there be images of the holy symbols of the new deities?

Will there be information on the various planar realms associated with these deities similar to Book of the Damned?

Will there be an aeon-blooded native outsider race?

Probably not, the planetouched races tend to be more planar flavored specifically.

Also Aeon blooded anything would raise really many questions

Some lucky subscribers should be able to download their pdfs soon.

A list of contents (with creature names) would be much appreciated. :-)

I almost feel like subscribing just to have pdf early, but I can't afford physical product + shipping costs right now :p

But yeah, if anybody gets it early, I'd like to know which categories demigods belong to, what is their names & titles and whether Monad is full "god" or not mechanics wise :p

I've got it, and what this reveals about Pharasma's place in the cosmos...wow.

Assuming you believe Tabris or that his sources know what they were talking about! ;).

Can't we have a reliable narrator for once? Maybe ... Nyarlathotep? Or ... Groetus? Rovagug? Anybody who's just a straight truth talker, not some cosmic fake news generator?

Tabris IS kinda biased source since he went back to edit two other books after finishing them when he started to write book of the damned :P

(I think its still kinda telling he didn't bother editing all three of the books to report all alignment stuff, since according to him only evil is endless)

Anyway, pretty please can we get list of deities and titles and what group they belong to? o-o I'm dying to get this book

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Personally, I believe Tabris. But I, too, am biased.

Personally, I believe Tabris. But I, too, am biased.

But if you believe Tabris, then aren't you, gasp, evil?

I mean, reading his final book literally turns you insane and evil if you read it almost completely (since you can't get to knowledge point 0 because its infinite book insertsadfaceemojihere)

Come to think about it, guy must have never read his own selfwriting book since he was still like LN right?

(well I guess he could have made the willsaves but eh details)

Anyhoo, seriously though, I know Paizo loves portraying archons and angels as jerks, but agathions and azatas have been pretty safe from that portrayal, so clearly Tabris has to be wrong about all celestials being bad hypocrites :D

(on sidenote, if Tabris is right about forces of good sucking, does that mean he agrees with Rovagug about existence should end? <_<)

...yeah I'm going stir crazy from not having this book for next three weeks ;-;

John Compton wrote:

Personally, I believe Tabris. But I, too, am biased.

But if you believe Tabris, then aren't you, gasp, evil?

I mean, reading his final book literally turns you insane and evil if you read it almost completely (since you can't get to knowledge point 0 because its infinite book insertsadfaceemojihere)

Come to think about it, guy must have never read his own selfwriting book since he was still like LN right?

(well I guess he could have made the willsaves but eh details)

Anyhoo, seriously though, I know Paizo loves portraying archons and angels as jerks, but agathions and azatas have been pretty safe from that portrayal, so clearly Tabris has to be wrong about all celestials being bad hypocrites :D

(on sidenote, if Tabris is right about forces of good sucking, does that mean he agrees with Rovagug about existence should end? <_<)

...yeah I'm going stir crazy from not having this book for next three weeks ;-;

I think you'll enjoy all five of these in-world excepts, but especially the last one. There's a lot to uncover if you read between the lines.

So hey, the book is out finally and it was a blast to work on and a pleasure to do so alongside my other fantastic co-authors. I did the protean and axiomite elements of the book, so any questions about that content I'll happily field within the bounds of what I can as a freelancer.

Also yes, the illureshi protean in CoR was probably one of my favorite monsters to have ever created. :D

So...I don't suppose we'd get a feat listing? Magic items? Spells? perhaps even a brief listing of bestiary?

I've got it, and what this reveals about Pharasma's place in the cosmos...wow.

Anything you wanna share? :) Do we have spoiler tags on this forum? You could use those if we have. :D

But if you believe Tabris, then aren't you, gasp, evil?

I think he means he believes Tabris about Pharasma's place in the cosmos, seeing as he wrote it.

I certainly hope not to get confirmation of Tabris' views regarding Celestials of the "infinity of evil", because frankly, grimdark despair-inducing musings on evil are... Boring. Extremely so.

Still, I gotta wait for the PDF before knowing one way or the other... Unless some kind soul decides to share wink wink

Can anyone share with us anything about the Primal Inevitables? They are the deities I know close to nothing and would like to known their names and their areas of interest.

And, in the end, how many deities got illustrated?

Feros wrote:

I've got it, and what this reveals about Pharasma's place in the cosmos...wow.

Anything you wanna share? :) Do we have spoiler tags on this forum? You could use those if we have. :D

...

Still, I gotta wait for the PDF before knowing one way or the other... Unless some kind soul decides to share wink wink

Well...

That is paraphrased, of course. There is a LOT more detail and implications. So many things are revealed here, most only ever so slightly. It is amazing. :)

So...I don't suppose we'd get a feat listing? Magic items? Spells? perhaps even a brief listing of bestiary?

Hope that helps! :)

Can anyone share with us anything about the Primal Inevitables? They are the deities I know close to nothing and would like to known their names and their areas of interest.

And, in the end, how many deities got illustrated?

Counting the cover picture of Saloc, the Minder of Immortals, a total of nine have paintings, two sketches of earlier beings...

...oh and a couple of pictures of Pharasma!

Patrick C. wrote:

Feros wrote:

I've got it, and what this reveals about Pharasma's place in the cosmos...wow.

Anything you wanna share? :) Do we have spoiler tags on this forum? You could use those if we have. :D

...

Still, I gotta wait for the PDF before knowing one way or the other... Unless some kind soul decides to share wink wink

Well...

** spoiler omitted **

That is a paraphrased, of course. There is a LOT more detail and implications. So many things are revealed here, most only ever so slightly. It is amazing. :)

Thank you, kind sir! :D :D :D It's certainly very interesting.

Again, many thanks! :)

Which domains does the Monad grant?

Thank you Feros! One more thing regarding your spoiler:

Which domains does the Monad grant?

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Can anyone share with us anything about the Primal Inevitables? They are the deities I know close to nothing and would like to known their names and their areas of interest.

And, in the end, how many deities got illustrated?

** spoiler omitted **

Counting the cover picture of Saloc, the Minder of Immortals, a total of nine have paintings, two sketches of earlier beings...

...oh and a couple of pictures of Pharasma!

Thanks for sharing Feros.

Nine out of 24... Well, that's less than I expected. But I'm sure the lore and additional rules are great.

Thank you Feros! One more thing regarding your spoiler:

** spoiler omitted **

HTD wrote:

Which domains does the Monad grant?

** spoiler omitted **

Well, gotta say I didn't expect to see the Monad as a demigod (as opposed to a full god).

I have another question: is there a list of protean lords and their titles?

Feros wrote:

HTD wrote:

Which domains does the Monad grant?

** spoiler omitted **

Well, gotta say I didn't expect to see the Monad as a demigod (as opposed to a full god).

I have another question: is there a list of protean lords and their titles?

The Monad is a being that doesn't give any thought to worship at all. Based on what I read, I suppose that even though they are an extremely powerful force of reality, their religion isn't as powerful as the full gods. They don't even have any temples!

So... You've given us lists of the Primal Inevitables, Monad, & Protean Lords.

Could you also do one for the Psychopomp Ushers?

Please & thank you.

Carry on!

--C.