Pathfinder Adventure Path #138: Rise of New Thassilon (Return of the Runelords 6 of 6)

There it is! And this surely surpassed my predictions... MHAR IS HERE! And yet another planar dragon, the remaining(?) one! *o*

I'm also curious to read more about how Golarion is going to change after the events.

YAY FOR MHAR STATS

YAS! Finally a map of Thassilon! Also, resurrected Demon Lords!? This looks insane. Also looove the Oliphaunt! Can't wait for this.

Two unbelievable powers foes, from the Oliphaunt to Mhars. Players are going to be like:

"We successfully survived the Oliphaunt! But... Can anyone tell me why is that mountain approaching us so fast?"

Ach Hans run, it's the Oliphaunt! ;-)

I want to know if we can get the Oliphant and Mhar to throw down.

Either way we lose. At this point the idea I think is the apocalypse is happening, and only pulling a quantum inversal can fix this.
(I know that is probably the wrong word, still kicking a runelord who screwed time over something royal is going to have consequences).

Eris,

Well generally screwing with the timeline(s) is a BAD idea...and I think right now Alaznist doesn't care.

It will be interesting to see how the landscape of Varisia will change after the heroes have won.

Will there be a thassilonian city surviving into the present?
Crystilan seems like a possibility.

If shorshen is going to rule a nation, it's surely going to be New Thassilon. I'm a bit confused to where is its place on the map however. I hope it can be formed not out of Thassilon, but out of a now united varisian nation under the last Runelord...

I wonder which end of Sorshen's twin-guisarme is male and which is female. Can't tell from the illustration. I do like that you can see her patented arm crystals beneath her stylish sleeves.

James Jacobs wrote:

Hah. I suspect a lot of folks are gonna be surprised, shocked, and delighted by the role the runelords have in this Adventure Path.

They are the good guys! :D

Seriously, though, I would laugh a lot if the players get to team up with Sorshen. After Shattered Star that would raise some eyebrows.

I wonder if this means that Alaznist will be sending Constructs back in time cloaked in Human flesh . . . .

Ha, just noticed this as I close the year out by buying up any APs that came out this year.

Flesh-draped iron golem - "I need your armor, your boots and your horse..."

The flesh draped iron golem. "I'll be back."

If shorshen is going to rule a nation, it's surely going to be New Thassilon. I'm a bit confused to where is its place on the map however. I hope it can be formed not out of Thassilon, but out of a now united varisian nation under the last Runelord...

Any options for a Runelord free Golorian? Say bye kicking Azlant and Sorshen under the feet of The Oliphant?

I've gotten kinda cynical on letting Runelord types having redemptions. Too much of DC/Marvel comics and 'We'll be just as bad as they are!" over the years.

magnuskn wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

Hah. I suspect a lot of folks are gonna be surprised, shocked, and delighted by the role the runelords have in this Adventure Path.

They are the good guys! :D

Seriously, though, I would laugh a lot if the players get to team up with Sorshen. After Shattered Star that would raise some eyebrows.

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Actually, that made me realize some uncommon PC deity selection might turn out very interesting. Shame the Player's Guide doesn't have a trait encouraging worship of

Actually for that matter, I wonder how PC Clerics of deities that didn't exist yet will work. Cayden, Iomedae, Kurgess, Milani (she's explicitly encouraged by the Player's Guide) possibly Nethys depending on how far back they go. Nocticula is still a true demon lord and THAT is one explicitly encouraged by the Player's Guide.

Actually for that matter, I wonder how PC Clerics of deities that didn't exist yet will work. Cayden, Iomedae, Kurgess, Milani (she's explicitly encouraged by the Player's Guide) possibly Nethys depending on how far back they go. Nocticula is still a true demon lord and THAT is one explicitly encouraged by the Player's Guide.

That still works, and is covered in the adventure. (Basically, deities and faith are stronger than time itself; just as the physical distance in the first 3 dimensions doesn't matter for your belief if you're a cleric, nor does your distance in the so-called "fourth dimension" of time.) Dead deities stay dead though. And I deliberately avoided much Aroden stuff intentionally to not distract folks from other plot threads. Aroden stuff in an adventure is like using hot peppers in a dish... it's a strong spice that, used in the right recipie, is delicious, but used in the wrong one is gross and distracting and destructive.

It would be mind-twisty if one of the gods became a god because one of their clerics traveled back in time to before they were a god, and the first time they prayed for spells their god rose up to meet them...

"It was as easy as just having some fool pray to you?"

"No, it was as 'easy' as hearing a 9th level cleric of *ME* in my head asking me for another casting of breath of life. Suddenly I was able to answer that request..."

While out on town in the past, the helpful PCs help a drunk to the nearest inn to sleep it off and Cayden remains mortal!

Has this issue been delayed for some reason, or is my sense of time off?

Can the PCs ride the Oliphant?

Has this issue been delayed for some reason, or is my sense of time off?

In January, they shift from mid-month deliveries because of the holidays to their more usual late month deliveries. This module is scheduled for a late January delivery.

BenS wrote:

Has this issue been delayed for some reason, or is my sense of time off?

In January, they shift from mid-month deliveries because of the holidays to their more usual late month deliveries. This module is scheduled for a late January delivery.

I received #5 of 6 in late November I believe; nothing in December. Late January makes #6...2 months later than #5. Thus, delayed by my count.

I'm not complaining, really, I just wanted to make sure what was happening w/ my ever waning subscriptions.

Can the PCs ride the Oliphant?

I suppose there's enough space atop it for them to actually build a house and live in the beast's back. ^-^'

Phillip Gastone wrote:

Can the PCs ride the Oliphant?

I suppose there's enough space atop it for them to actually build a house and live in the beast's back. ^-^'

If any event constitutes a Mythic feat, it is riding the Oliphant into battle.

David knott 242 wrote:

BenS wrote:

Has this issue been delayed for some reason, or is my sense of time off?

In January, they shift from mid-month deliveries because of the holidays to their more usual late month deliveries. This module is scheduled for a late January delivery.

I received #5 of 6 in late November I believe; nothing in December. Late January makes #6...2 months later than #5. Thus, delayed by my count.

I'm not complaining, really, I just wanted to make sure what was happening w/ my ever waning subscriptions.

I don't think anyone can predict where you will fall in the delivery window. I do recall having one of my monthly deliveries being delayed so much during the site outage that it got combined with the delivery for the following month, which was early.

But those problems do seem to be in the past for now, so your best bet is to check the January subscription shipment thread in the Customer Service forum to see when the shipping window is (January 14th to 25th, IIRC).

All hail Sorshen, Lady of Lust and Queen of New Thassilon! May death come swiftly to her enemies! ;) :D

I was not impressed by her in Runeplague. Spend far too much time babysitting her clone.

Take me here
Buy me that
I'm hungry
Sing me a song
Tell me a story

I was thinking that it could be reworked as an assassination mission by the Pathfinder council. Draw her attention while a ritual is done to link Sorshen and her clone and then strike down the clone, killing Sorshen

Runelords, not even once.

What really rankled me about it was that I remember it being like the Forgotten Realms modules dealing with the Time of Troubles, where the PCs follow behind the story characters and deal with trash mobs. Here the PCs are coming off as Sorshen's sidekicks like how Elminster duked it out with a god while the PCs fought some goons.

Babysitting? Huh, that is not the word I would have used. I mean, I have already made few jokes about "Sorshen Dating Simulator"

Either way, dunno how it really is trash mobs when you are clearly fighting final boss yourself. I mean, Sorshen is more of quest giver/"hey we need an information source" than main character.

Dating sims at least have the potential of a 'payoff' depending on which one you are playing.

Well you get a kiss if you get all other rewards :p

Anyway, yeah, I don't really like idea of assassinating Sorshen that easily even if you want to avoid Runelords allying with PCs, I mean one of runelord rituals in the one of bonus articles was one she stopped using because she realized it had vulnerability that allowed hostile caster attack her directly. Aka, they wouldn't be that dumb to leave that big open weaknesses.

Considering this is Sorshen, Runelord of Lust I am thinking that one would need a stack of Cure Disease scrolls on hand if anything more was tried.

Considering this is Sorshen, Runelord of Lust I am thinking that one would need a stack of Cure Disease scrolls on hand if anything more was tried.

You assume she would tolerate having, er, "relations" with an individual (or a group of individuals) who have STD's. I think she has higher tastes than that dude. ;)

'Sorshen, get away from the Otyugh."

"Don't wanna."

Also, you assume that level 20 wizard wouldn't have removed those diseases already :P

Well at her worst, no doubt Sorshen was doing thing unprintable here, no doubt a certain Warhammer deity would give her the thumbs up.

Well at her worst, no doubt Sorshen was doing thing unprintable here, no doubt a certain Warhammer deity would give her the thumbs up.

oi, that certain Warhammer deity has his hands full right now.

If Nocticula can redeem herself, I see no reason why Sorshen couldn't.

And in the end, you do all the fighting in Runeplague anyway and smackdown yet another Runelord at the end.

Honestly out of the five that were left...Sorshen being the only one left alive and willing to change for the better is honestly the best situation we could have gotten.

Actually, the list of alive Runelords at the end of all of this is... quite variable.

Let's say like this: Sorshen is only Runelord you don't need to beat into submission to ally with :P Turns out that unlike Karzoug, quite many ancient super wizards don't prefer fighting to the death if possible

Just gotten my first notice. Meaning probably next week the PDF is out for suscribers. Can't wait! :D

Just gotten my first notice. Meaning probably next week the PDF is out for suscribers. Can't wait! :D

There is still no january 2019 shipping thread, though. ;-(

magnuskn wrote:

Just gotten my first notice. Meaning probably next week the PDF is out for suscribers. Can't wait! :D

There is still no january 2019 shipping thread, though. ;-(

Shipping is supposed to start on monday 14th.

? There is one. January 2019 New Releases & Subscription Shipping Thread

All I know is I want to see Sorshen and Alaznist in a steel cage match.

Mud wrestling.

Oil

Guys, that stuff belongs with the succubus, let's keep it out of the product forums.

...cevah will make sure to market it better over in the Succubus in a Grapple thread anyway....

Need stats for Queen Mittens from Runeplague

Lathiira,

I was thinking less wrestling and more Death Battle...but sure.

Death Battle is good...seems like a waste of two such powerful NPCs, but to each their own!