Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
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The descriptive text mentions "Starfinder Pawns Base Assortment" - how does this differ from the "Pathfinder Pawns Bases" and when will the come out?
Thx Chris.
Nevermind, i found this:
Cthulhudrew |
I've never heard of them before. Any info about them?
They were mentioned in Distant Worlds, as inhabitants of the Diaspora. There doesn't seem to be much I can find about them online, other than this.
David knott 242 |
Unless they modified the race considerably from the depiction in Distant Worlds, I don't think that figure on the left is a Sarcesian. The Sarcesian in Distant Worlds is 10 to 15 feet tall (not about human size like the guy on the cover above) and has a very different look to his face.
My guess would be that this guy is either a Vercite or a Summerborn Triaxian. I would give the nod to Vercite since the planet Verces orbits closer to the sun than the far more distant Triaxus. Either way, this guy would then have to be manifesting wings from a class power -- maybe he is a Solarian?
And then there is that robot on the right. Since neither of the other two characters on the cover appears to be a Mechanic, I don't think he is a robot companion. Maybe he is an Aballonian?
If these two guys are our missing iconics, then the seven core races in Starfinder would be Human, Lashunta, Ysoki (Ratfolk), Kasatha, Android, Vercite, and Aballonian. That list would cover most of the races from People of the Stars (omitting only the Triaxians) without leaving any other obvious holes.
Archmage Variel |
Unless they modified the race considerably from the depiction in Distant Worlds, I don't think that figure on the left is a Sarcesian. The Sarcesian in Distant Worlds is 10 to 15 feet tall (not about human size like the guy on the cover above) and has a very different look to his face.
My guess would be that this guy is either a Vercite or a Summerborn Triaxian. I would give the nod to Vercite since the planet Verces orbits closer to the sun than the far more distant Triaxus. Either way, this guy would then have to be manifesting wings from a class power -- maybe he is a Solarian?
And then there is that robot on the right. Since neither of the other two characters on the cover appears to be a Mechanic, I don't think he is a robot companion. Maybe he is an Aballonian?
If these two guys are our missing iconics, then the seven core races in Starfinder would be Human, Lashunta, Ysoki (Ratfolk), Kasatha, Android, Vercite, and Aballonian. That list would cover most of the races from People of the Stars (omitting only the Triaxians) without leaving any other obvious holes.
I think he's probably a Sarcesian since the race is mentioned in the description and honestly, they looked a little weird in their previous depiction. I would've changed they're look too if I was paizo. Plus there's always the possibility they evolved to be shorter in stature to better suit flight.
Torbyne |
I love the new designs but as far as them being core races... i thought the two unseen races were supposed to be much more alien than what we've seen so far and neither of those seem exceptionally beyond the four armed Kasatha we know of and the Androids we've already seen at the table. But on the other hand, Battle Droid as a player choice? YES PLEASE!
David knott 242 |
I do remember reading about one of the races being distinctly non-humanoid, which to me would suggest Aballonians, Formians, or possibly Trox. Other candidates would all seem to have problems operating in the Earth-like environments that the other PC races would favor.
I am also having a great deal of trouble figuring out how Vercites could possibly not be a core race in the Starfinder setting. People of the Stars suggests using the stats of elves or half-elves for this race, but we already know that those races will not be core races in Starfinder. Vercites have an interesting and distinct culture that would make for a variety of interesting PC backgrounds. They are the dominant race on one of the inner planets of the solar system and were traveling through space even during the Pathfinder era. There would have to be a major catastrophe to their civilization to demote them to non-major status.
Ashanderai |
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A sarcesian iconic? I don't think that's the iconic, but I would love to have one of these aliens among them. Especially as the mystic. Their energy like wings would fit the class, I suppose.
I totally just accidentally read that as, "A sarcasm iconic?" Now, I really want to play a character with the Sarcasm class, complete with sarcastic class features and a bonus (penalty?) to the Diplomacy skill.
Cthulhudrew |
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David knott 242 wrote:Unless they modified the race considerably from the depiction in Distant Worlds, I don't think that figure on the left is a Sarcesian. The Sarcesian in Distant Worlds is 10 to 15 feet tall (not about human size like the guy on the cover above) and has a very different look to his face.I think he's probably a Sarcesian since the race is mentioned in the description and honestly, they looked a little weird in their previous depiction. I would've changed they're look too if I was paizo. Plus there's always the possibility they evolved to be shorter in stature to better suit flight.
I'm pretty sure that, as this isn't the final cover, they just used artwork from elsewhere as placeholder pieces. And that is probably the Sarcesian artwork from First Contact.
As to the size difference, as these pieces are most likely from three different sources and not one illustration (note that they've used the same image of Navasi on three of the different mockup covers), that the sizes of the different characters shouldn't necessarily be taken relative to one another. If they are all standalone pieces (as I suspect), then they could all frankly be any size at all, from tiny to gargantuan.
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
Can anyone from Paizo tell us how applicable these pawns will be to the Dead Suns adventure path? I'm sure there will be some overlap, but the tabletop minis market is mostly geared toward fantasy and there are absolutely no Starfinder minis, yet.
I'm wondering how much support this pawn set will provide for folks who are anxious to jump into the AP before the AP collection is released (which is usually after the last AP issue).
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
The AP is going to introduce a lot of its own NPCs and monsters, but it's also going to use stuff from the Core Rulebook and the Alien Archive as well. This set probably won't be *quite* as helpful as the Alien Archive Box or the eventual AP set, but I don't think you'll regret having it... and it might at least give you some properly themed stand-ins until those other sets arrive.
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
The AP is going to introduce a lot of its own NPCs and monsters, but it's also going to use stuff from the Core Rulebook and the Alien Archive as well. This set probably won't be *quite* as helpful as the Alien Archive Box or the eventual AP set, but I don't think you'll regret having it... and it might at least give you some properly themed stand-ins until those other sets arrive.
That's what I thought. I'll be picking up both the core set and the Alien Archive set. I was just curious about what to expect.
Thanks, Vic!
Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
Opsylum |
There are a lot of PC/NPC options in there, yes. Also, the iconic characters are in there too, though they're not specifically named as such; for example, the Android Operative pawn is Iseph.
Does this mean the Starfinder Core Rulebook will contain an NPC section with statblocks? Or will that feature be left to the Alien Archive?
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Does this mean the Starfinder Core Rulebook will contain an NPC section with statblocks? Or will that feature be left to the Alien Archive?
The Starfinder Core Rulebook's Classes section provides guidelines for creating characters using different character themes for each class, and that's where a lot of these tokens come from.
NPC statblocks aren't a significant part of either the Core Rulebook or the Alien Archive, just as they weren't a significant part of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook or Bestiary.
James Martin RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32 |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
James Martin RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32 |
Tonya Woldridge Organized Play Coordinator |
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@James -
We released the information today that we will have the Starfinder maps for use by the Quest GMs. We are bringing pawns as well.
GMs need to bring Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Chambers and Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Corridors, as well as bases for the pawns.
The Leads will send this information out in the next weekly update so that all GMs know what to expect.
bugleyman |
@James -
We released the information today that we will have the Starfinder maps for use by the Quest GMs. We are bringing pawns as well.
GMs need to bring Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Chambers and Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Corridors, as well as bases for the pawns.
The Leads will send this information out in the next weekly update so that all GMs know what to expect.
Not a Gencon GM, but where does Starship Corridors appear? It's not listed for the three (pre-ordered-able scenarios). The special?
James Martin RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32 |
@James -
We released the information today that we will have the Starfinder maps for use by the Quest GMs. We are bringing pawns as well.
GMs need to bring Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Chambers and Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Corridors, as well as bases for the pawns.
The Leads will send this information out in the next weekly update so that all GMs know what to expect.
That is EXCELLENT news! Thanks, guys! I very much appreciate the assistance and prompt replies!
bugleyman |
Tonya Woldridge wrote:Not a Gencon GM, but where does Starship Corridors appear? It's not listed for the three (pre-ordered-able scenarios). The special?@James -
We released the information today that we will have the Starfinder maps for use by the Quest GMs. We are bringing pawns as well.
GMs need to bring Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Chambers and Pathfinder Map Pack Starship Corridors, as well as bases for the pawns.
The Leads will send this information out in the next weekly update so that all GMs know what to expect.
Never mind; I found the answer in this thread.
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
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captain yesterday wrote:Can't you just use Pathfinder bases. :-)I could if I had them -- and I have already ordered the Starfinder ones.
You might try contacting Customer Service and replacing your order of the Starfinder pawns with the regular pawn bases (product link).
The bases are the same.
David knott 242 |
Thanks, Vic!
I think my group will use that time to plan our campaign -- after all, it would be a bit ambitious for me to try to run a Starfinder game the moment I get the core rulebook -- especially given the number of non-subscribers among my players who probably won't have the rulebook before late August or early September anyway.
bugleyman |
David knott 242 wrote:"Some reason" = They didn't arrive from the manufacturer in time.It looks like these pawns won't work properly (as in, they will keep falling over) for about a month since for some reason the sale of the pawn bases has been pushed back until September.
Well, to be fair, that is in fact "some reason." ;-)
bugleyman |
Thanks, Vic!
I think my group will use that time to plan our campaign -- after all, it would be a bit ambitious for me to try to run a Starfinder game the moment I get the core rulebook -- especially given the number of non-subscribers among my players who probably won't have the rulebook before late August or early September anyway.
On the off chance that you live in metro Phoenix, I can hook you up. I have a stupid number of bases (and plan to buy still more when the new colors come out)!