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*fingers crossed for a Bard archetype*
I don't actually want to play one, and neither do my players. I just really want to be able to make some "Blood of the Beats" jokes.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm personally hoping that this leads to a future product that is to Inner Sea Races as Inner Sea Faiths was to Inner Sea Gods—a small scale look at a few uncommon races that essentially gives those races the full "Inner Sea Races" treatment. I don't have any influence over the product schedule at all, but I figure if I can get the community to sing its praises over this book, then maybe that'll happen someday!
That sounds very good to me.
We got lots of players who scramble at every opportunity to play a character which isn´t core or even inner sea and tell new and different stories with them. Such a product would be really welcome there.Of course personaly i hope that will go along with more material of other regions than the inner sea, especially Tian Xia.
I want "Blood of the Fey".
Yes they do but blood of golems, blood of the undead, blood of robots, blood of plants, blood of oozes, etc. would be a problem;)
I think they work like geniekin and other native outsiders -- once you come up with something that mixes human with something else, there is enough human in them that they actually have blood.
Blood for the Blood God of Blood!
I hope there will be a product art and description update soon.
it will also helps us get more context as to how far or deep the coverage goes for a 32 page PDF for 6 races.
....unless the page number was increased. Nah.
It is going to be hard to cram a lot good stuff for 6 races in one 32 page book.
That works out to four pages each, with front and back matter taking up the remaining four pages. That's plenty of material- enough for (for instance) some alternate racials, alternate FCBs, some art, a unique thing, some intro fluff, and a trait or two. (The unique thing being an archetype, racial spells, special feats, or class options like special Vigilante talents.)
Now, I'm probably a little optimistic on how tightly packed things are, but one page related to a race I like catches my interest, and two makes me happy. Three or four is fantastic, and most people like several of the races.
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It is going to be hard to cram a lot good stuff for 6 races in one 32 page book.
But far from impossible. It's why we hire professionals to outline, write, develop, lay out, and edit our books to provide the best possible experience and content.
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ITS A COOK BOOK!
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Please, not more teamwork feats though. It seems like half of these are stuffed with teamwork feats that you know no one can use except hunters and cavaliers. (i'm looking at YOU heroes of the wild)
ITS A COOK BOOK!
I thought it was a races book...
Also thank you John Compton!
If I even see one teamwork feat in this book...
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Please, not more teamwork feats though. It seems like half of these are stuffed with teamwork feats that you know no one can use except hunters and cavaliers. (i'm looking at YOU heroes of the wild)
The Inquisitor says "Hi!"
I loved "Heroes of the Wild". The swappable racial traits are marvelous (Feyborn!), IMO.
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If I even see one teamwork feat in this book...
Twinned Tails lets Kitsune characters add up their tails for the purpose of determining the SLAs, granting a Kitsune Fighter duo access to Dominate Person at fourth level.
By Our Powers Combined allows two or more beastfolk to merge forms, transforming into a platypusfolk.
You Scratch My Back allows Catfolk to receive double Aid Another bonus, but restricts them to the Aid Another action in return next turn, also with doubled bonuses.
How Many Swarming Options Do You Need allows Ratfolk to possess one another at will, as per Greater Possession, making it so they not only occupy the same square but the same body as well.
*doesn't mind teamwork feats* I have a cohort dhampir Ghost Rider Cavalier Order of the Shroud. He MIGHT find one he likes. Maybe.
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]You Scratch My Back allows Catfolk to receive double Aid Another bonus, but restricts them to the Aid Another action in return next turn, also with doubled bonuses.
Catfolk bards need a Subharmonic Purr feat.
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Blood of the Elements failed in that it tried to fit five races into half a player companion, making two pages for each. Blood of Shadows was exceptionally well received... and had four pages to each race with some extra content for anyone. I expect there to be four pages for each race in this, which could make a lot of people happy, no matter what kind of animals they prefer.
I agree, blood elements was a big disappointment and blood of shadows is awesome.
]You Scratch My Back allows Catfolk to receive double Aid Another bonus, but restricts them to the Aid Another action in return next turn, also with doubled bonuses.Catfolk bards need a Subharmonic Purr feat.
Also a meow for food, play and cuddles type song!
Must be of course irresistible.
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I would expect this to be very option-oriented. Its a Player Companion, and the line has evolved to be more about player options than a player's place in the campaign setting.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm personally hoping that this leads to a future product that is to Inner Sea Races as Inner Sea Faiths was to Inner Sea Gods—a small scale look at a few uncommon races that essentially gives those races the full "Inner Sea Races" treatment. I don't have any influence over the product schedule at all, but I figure if I can get the community to sing its praises over this book, then maybe that'll happen someday!
You also speak for me, good sir! I would "SQEEEEEEEEEE!!!" with delight to have such a book. I loved Inner Sea Faiths. A similar companion for Inner Sea Races would be an instabuy for me.
Now, who do I need to poke and/or prod to make this book a reality? Which rooftops do I need to sing its praises from?
SM
Ah, this should be interesting and make my son happy. He has discovered grippli and will go crazy over more material.
Yeah blood of the elements could use a follow up, especially now that kineticists exist^^
Yeah blood of the elements could use a follow up, especially now that kineticists exist^^Hmm...
AH that fled my mind^^
Didn´t remember there´s so many player options in a campaign setting?
Hopefully by the end of the week this one will get updated.
I agree, blood elements was a big disappointment and blood of shadows is awesome.Certainly our intention is to learn from that fact.
It remains to be seen how we did. :)
If it's any consolation, Owen and I had this discussion before I signed onto the team, and I will say this: don't expect Blood of Angels-style overviews, but also don't expect Blood of the Elements. I think Blood of the Beast hits a happy middle ground.
As a side note, I personally believe that the thoroughness of Blood of Angels is better categorized in the Campaign Setting line in modern Pathfinder products, but that's my own opinion-not Paizo's.
I would love a 64 page campaign setting book full of player options...if they are all kineticist related.
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I wouldn't mind a 64-page Campaign Setting book full of player options.
We usually get at least one a year—Inner Sea Combat, Inner Sea Intrigue, and Inner Sea Magic all immediately come to mind. Inner Sea Faiths has deific obediences for all of its deities. Most nation gazetteer also have some player-oriented content too.
From my own educated observations, "Player Companion" means "Player-Oriented Options with Golarion setting flavor" while "Campaign Setting" means "Golarion setting flavor that sometimes includes player options."
If you go by my definition, the old Blood of Angels and Blood of Fiends and Halflings of Golarion PComps are more like Campaign Setting products than Player Companion products, because they focus on Golarion Setting flavor first and include player options second. To be honest I don't know precisely what lines determine which product goes where, but I'm going on my second year as a subscriber to both lines and have written extensively for one of them, hence why call my observations "educated."
In an effort to twist this line of conversation back around to Blood of the Beasts, my gut says that if you want more setting-oriented material on these races, then the Campaign Setting line is the place where that wish will come true. Blood of the Beasts simply needs to prove that further emphasis on these races is warranted in the Campaign Setting line, and that's where the Pathfinder consumer base comes in. You want more? Well, talk is cheap—pay up for Blood of the Beast! ;-)
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IF you´re saying that halflings should get a whole campaign setting book dedicated to them, i will fully agree!
Something for halflings from every corner of Golarion!
... so that leaves us with kind of a hole for things that are NPCs only, "GMs' eyes only", etc...
... which would be a hard sell for Paizo, seeing as most groups are (generally) 4+ players to 1 GM.
That's why a GMG2 or the like is an idea most GM's would want, but Paizo is reluctant to discuss.
Anyway: Looking foreward to Blood of the Beast.
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I wouldn't mind a 64-page Campaign Setting book full of player options.
I would.
I invest in campaign setting materials for books like the nation/setting gazetteers, monsters revisited/unleashed, "Realms" books, and "Book of the X" series. I find that stuff a lot more entertaining to read when I don't get to game much or am stuck on the other side of the GM screen.
We have a monthly PC series, and at least two hardcover RPG books a year devoted to player content. I don't mind a little bit of PC material where appropriate, but lets keep the player options most in the players book and the campaign setting/GM material in the campaign setting line.
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Updated with final product image and description!
More shapechange feats? Well now I'm double-sold.
I find the cover both horrific and yet perfect for the people who are clamoring for this book.
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Kitsune Mesmerist? Please..... :}
Nice cover but of course none of them are catfolk art:(
Well at least some racial feats will be in the book.