And now that the pdf is available...
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Oh so many goodies! I'll definitely be getting this book.
One question for now: what does 'Superior Shapeshifting' do for Kitsune?
Ah! Thanks, Luthorne.
Do Kitsune get anything here to aid with their human-form shapeshifting, like a way to take on other forms besides the one human alternate form they all get?
Ah! Thanks, Luthorne.
Do Kitsune get anything here to aid with their human-form shapeshifting, like a way to take on other forms besides the one human alternate form they all get?
There is nothing for other human forms. The Fox Shape feat already existed before this book.
There are alternate racial traits that let them pick up a human's extra skill ranks or learn more languages (with the primary bonus language being the language of the human ethnicity that they live among).
Can you spoil what the FCBs are for nagaji. Like you have the list of which classes, but I'm super curious what they actually are. Nagaji are a preferred race for me.
Perhaps I am once again slow on the uptake, but Prowler at the World's End is stackable with Rageshaper! Catfolk Prowler/Rageshaper Bloodrager?! Yes, thank you very much! Take Cat Pounce Feat at level 10 and their FCB along the way and watch your Cat-Rager run and slay all over the battlefield.
This book is sooooooooooo cool.
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This sounds like a really cool book, but I play mostly Pathfinder Society, so I'm still waiting until I see what's legal for PFS play from it. Hopefully, that'll be in next month's Additional Resources update for PFS.
Also, I'll probably want to buy it in hard copy instead of PDF, so I'll wait until the FLGS that hosts our PFS group has it in stock. I'm a big believer in supporting our local stores. Plus, that gives me the added bonus of being able to look through the book before I buy it.
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Can you spoil what the FCBs are for nagaji. Like you have the list of which classes, but I'm super curious what they actually are. Nagaji are a preferred race for me.
To avoid spoiling too much, I will leave out the numbers and a few other technical details:
Cavaliers: Boosts speed of mount.
Mesmerist: Boosts hit die limits targeted by some spells.
Oracle: Boosts effective level for one revelation.
Paladin: Boosts duration of divine bond with weapon.
Ranger: Adds skill ranks to snake animal companion.
Slayer: Adds Slayer talents.
Sorcerer: Boosts caster level for some spells.
Warpriest: Boosts daily uses of some Blessings.
I kinda feel like the Naga Aspirant Druid archetype from ARG feels off compared to the Naga Bloodline in this book. I feel like the Power of the Naga should have the effect of "the Naga form becomes her natural form, though she can transform into her original nagaji shape at will".
The Naga bloodline should become just as permanent as the druid archetype.
It still hasnt shipped :( i feel like a kid on the night before christmas. Can i get some FCB's for grippli spoiled pls?
Bloodrager with level 5 and 6 Spells? What did I miss?And now that the pdf is available...
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Needless to say, lots of good stuff in this book!
More like what they missed. Enjoy easier scroll use, though!
More like what they missed. Enjoy easier scroll use, though!Bloodrager with level 5 and 6 Spells? What did I miss?And now that the pdf is available...
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Needless to say, lots of good stuff in this book!
One problem: At what level do Bloodragers gain access to 5th and 6th level spells? You would need to know that to calculate the chance that a scroll with Naga Shape II or III fails for them.
You know, I'm surprised that kitsune didn't get a kineticist favored class bonus. I guess Pathfinder kitsune really aren't going to get any of the old 'fox fire' themes aside from Dancing Lights.
I kinda feel like the Naga Aspirant Druid archetype from ARG feels off compared to the Naga Bloodline in this book. I feel like the Power of the Naga should have the effect of "the Naga form becomes her natural form, though she can transform into her original nagaji shape at will".
The Naga bloodline should become just as permanent as the druid archetype.
There is a LOT more power in sorcerer spellcasting than druid spellcasting, though. Wildshape at will is also generally more powerful than most sorcerer bloodline 20th level abilities.
Bit of Luck is a personal spell that gives you a pool of luck points that can be spent to add d8's (number determined by caster level and points spent) to any d20 rolls made while the spell is in effect.
Curse of Befouled Fortune is a really nasty spell that curses the target with bad luck. They cannot benefit from luck bonuses, rerolls, multiple rolls where they take the best result, or any ability that lets them set the result of a d20 roll to a given number (so they cannot take 10 or take 20). Once per turn when they would succeed on a roll, they must roll twice and take the lower result.
More like what they missed. Enjoy easier scroll use, though!Bloodrager with level 5 and 6 Spells? What did I miss?And now that the pdf is available...
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Needless to say, lots of good stuff in this book!
One problem: At what level do Bloodragers gain access to 5th and 6th level spells? You would need to know that to calculate the chance that a scroll with Naga Shape II or III fails for them.
It'd be up to your GM, but if you run the "beyond 20th level" rules as-written, Bloodragers would get access to 5th level spells at level 21 and 6th level spells at level 23.
It's more than likely an oversight though, and those spells just probably shouldn't be on the bloodrager spell list to begin with.
I would agree. They just copied and pasted stuff from the lower level versions of the spell to the higher levels and forgot to remove Bloodrager from the lists.
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You know, I'm surprised that kitsune didn't get a kineticist favored class bonus. I guess Pathfinder kitsune really aren't going to get any of the old 'fox fire' themes aside from Dancing Lights.
Space was tight. Kineticist was on my list, but I scrapped it for the "all classes" FCB option because I felt it was more important to the race's fantasy.
But hey, all of you consumers at home have a pretty big impact on what gets published. Prove that the thing you love is economically viable for sequels and it'll happen.
Style Strikes? Ki Powers? Monk/Brawler FCBs? Advanced Weapon Trainings? Vigilante Talents?
This is the type of product that makes me cry about only owning American Express for credit card...
EDIT: If you can spoil any of the above I'd appreciate <3
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I would agree. They just copied and pasted stuff from the lower level versions of the spell to the higher levels and forgot to remove Bloodrager from the lists.
This is indeed an error. Spells listed as bloodrager spells of levels above 4 should not be on the bloodrager spell list.
Bit of Luck seems like Improvisation from 3.5, one of my favorite Bard spells. It even has a level discount for Bards. I approve!
Bit of Luck is a personal spell that gives you a pool of luck points that can be spent to add d8's (number determined by caster level and points spent) to any d20 rolls made while the spell is in effect.
Nope, only attacks and skill rolls. It's already way to close to being mythic surge, at least you can't apply to saves or SR checks.
What's wrong with Realistic Likeness from the ARG?Ah! Thanks, Luthorne.
Do Kitsune get anything here to aid with their human-form shapeshifting, like a way to take on other forms besides the one human alternate form they all get?
Nothing except that I forgot about it like a total dummy.
Anyone answer me this about versatile performance stuff: Does the Masterpiece thingie grant you masterpieces or what?
Also could I get a list of the magic items perhaps?
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Anyone answer me this about versatile performance stuff: Does the Masterpiece thingie grant you masterpieces or what?
Kal,
Thank you and cool! :) I might now have to start looking into Bards with that little trick.
Do you have any clarifications on the issues with Prowler at World's End?This is indeed an error. Spells listed as bloodrager spells of levels above 4 should not be on the bloodrager spell list.I would agree. They just copied and pasted stuff from the lower level versions of the spell to the higher levels and forgot to remove Bloodrager from the lists.
Second this!
Second this!Do you have any clarifications on the issues with Prowler at World's End?This is indeed an error. Spells listed as bloodrager spells of levels above 4 should not be on the bloodrager spell list.I would agree. They just copied and pasted stuff from the lower level versions of the spell to the higher levels and forgot to remove Bloodrager from the lists.
Third! My favorite archetype in this book (and that is saying something as there are some good ones!).
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Bit of Luck seems like Improvisation from 3.5, one of my favorite Bard spells. It even has a level discount for Bards. I approve!
Yes, that was my thought as well. Improvisation had some issues: in one book it was 5th level (Complete Adventurer I think?) and in another (Spell Compendium?) it was 1st level, IIRC. Either too high in level to be useful or ridiculously OPed as a 1st level spell.
Bit of Luck is a Bard must-have-spell, IMO.
What's so special about this 'Bit of Luck' spell that some of you are so delighted with?
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What's so special about this 'Bit of Luck' spell that some of you are so delighted with?You get a pool of 1d8s you can add to your rolls, and at higher levels you can spend more points to add multiple d8s to the same roll.
Okay, that is pretty good. Thank you.
What would be good items to go along with this work, from those that have seen it?
You know, I'm surprised that kitsune didn't get a kineticist favored class bonus. I guess Pathfinder kitsune really aren't going to get any of the old 'fox fire' themes aside from Dancing Lights.Space was tight. Kineticist was on my list, but I scrapped it for the "all classes" FCB option because I felt it was more important to the race's fantasy.
But hey, all of you consumers at home have a pretty big impact on what gets published. Prove that the thing you love is economically viable for sequels and it'll happen.
Here's hoping that this book is actually popular enough to lead to us getting a hardcover Campaign Setting book. That way we can get setting details AND additional character options at the same time ;)
Right now we still know next to nothing about these races in Golarion. Do we know of even a single leader level NPC of *any* of the "beast races"? Half of these races don't even have a single home town or organization to their names. We just kind of have a vague sense of what regions they live in and what their general tendencies and themes are.
Any info on the Style Strikes, Ki Powers, Monk/Brawler FCBs or Advanced Weapon Trainings?
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Here's hoping that this book is actually popular enough to lead to us getting a hardcover Campaign Setting book. That way we can get setting details AND additional character options at the same time ;)
Right now we still know next to nothing about these races in Golarion. Do we know of even a single leader level NPC of *any* of the "beast races"? Half of these races don't even have a single home town or organization to their names. We just kind of have a vague sense of what regions they live in and what their general tendencies and themes are.
Not doubt I'm missing a few, but yes, we have seen many of these groups in action.
** spoiler omitted **Here's hoping that this book is actually popular enough to lead to us getting a hardcover Campaign Setting book. That way we can get setting details AND additional character options at the same time ;)
Right now we still know next to nothing about these races in Golarion. Do we know of even a single leader level NPC of *any* of the "beast races"? Half of these races don't even have a single home town or organization to their names. We just kind of have a vague sense of what regions they live in and what their general tendencies and themes are.
Ahh, I stand corrected. I haven't played PFS in a few years so I haven't seen any of that XD
Edit: It *would* be nice to get some of this information outside of PFS though.
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** spoiler omitted **Here's hoping that this book is actually popular enough to lead to us getting a hardcover Campaign Setting book. That way we can get setting details AND additional character options at the same time ;)
Right now we still know next to nothing about these races in Golarion. Do we know of even a single leader level NPC of *any* of the "beast races"? Half of these races don't even have a single home town or organization to their names. We just kind of have a vague sense of what regions they live in and what their general tendencies and themes are.
..and the people you talk to could be kitsune. Anywhere. At any time.
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And the people you talk to could be kitsune. Anywhere. At any time.
;) Dumb Bunny...
Hm. Bit o Luck seems like the next go to bard spell next to sound strike and/or bladed dash perhaps.
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Hm. Bit o Luck seems like the next go to bard spell next to sound strike and/or bladed dash perhaps.
I like Bit of Luck because it make the math much easier on my maximized Spellcraft theory crafting to use the Codex of Infinite Planes safely. There have been some good skill boosting spells of late.
