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Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)

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A Campaign Fit For a Queen

The kings and queens of Korvosa have long ruled under the shadow of the Curse of the Crimson Throne—an infamous superstition claiming that no monarch of the city of Korvosa shall ever die of old age or produce an heir. Whether or not there is any truth to the legend of the curse, Korvosa's current king is but the latest victim to succumb to this foul legacy. Now, the metropolis teeters on the edge of anarchy, and it falls to a band of new heroes to save Korvosa from the greatest threat it has ever known! This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, including new and revised content and nearly 500 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

This hardcover edition of Curse of the Crimson Throne contains:

  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • An in-depth gazetteer of the city of Korvosa as it exists under the rule of its new queen.
  • An array of new rules options for characters, ranging from campaign traits to spells to magic items.
  • An expansive appendix with statistics, descriptions, backgrounds, and rules support for the 12 most important NPCs in the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring nine monsters from the original Adventure Path making their debut under the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, extensive new encounter locations, and more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-890-8

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The Gold Standard For Adventure Paths

5/5 —

This AP is widely considered one of the (if not THE) best Adventure Paths for good reason. It really is that good. Tons of really interesting NPCs and storylines. Lots and lots and lots of room for a GM to add their own touches. An excellent story that makes the PCs feel like heroes. Villains they really want to beat. Heck, it's even a good introduction to the pathfinder system and world.

Not only that, but since it's so popular, there's tons of advice about what changes to make, what to keep an eye on, and how to make changes that can improve it. This edition is a fantastic deal and an excellent campaign and I can't recommend it highly enough.

Frick it my review got deleted

5/5 —

I wrote fricking long review about great time I had with running the whole campaign(and post campaign) and then it got deleted by the fricking "too much backtracking" page dagnabbit

I'm not gonna write the entire thing again, so here is in short: This campaign has great recurring NPC cast(most of later APs have problem with introducing cool NPCs and then rest of books never mentioning them again), great themes, great villains, Kazavon's awesome hair, allows multiple approaches to different situations(such as infiltrating with sneaking or talking through places instead of just fighting through them. Kinda reminds me of Deux Ex computer games in a way), awesome locations, awesome post campaign potential and is one of my favourite APs ever.

Good value, but some reservations

4/5 —

Short Version: A smart buy but held back by structural issues.

It's hard to get better adventure value for your dollar than this or the Rise of the Runelords collected edition. If I were reviewing on that alone, this would be 5 stars and then some. But there's more to an adventure than that.

The AP's hook is quite good, but almost immediately discarded in favor of saving the city. This can be helped a good session 0, but still feels artificial.

Even looking at the new plot, many elements feel shoehorned in. People point to volumes 4 and 5 for this, but there are sections in 2 that exist only to kill time as the plot advances and an entire dungeon in 3 that is cool but can seem forced if the players don't kick in the door right away. Any of these alone would be fine, but each makes the next more obvious.

That being said, there's a lot of cool stuff going on here, it just takes at least a star's worth of work to stitch it together.

3.5 vs. Pathfinder comparison!

5/5 —

I´m gonna list the differences between the original AP#7s chapters and it´s adaption into the hardcover edition:

Inside front cover:
The "Korvosan Hierarchy" overview is not reprinted.
Part 1:
The illustration on page 6 is exchanged for a cartoony new one on page 12 of the HC.
Page 10 of AP#7 has a map where the 8 locations in Korvosa that are important for book 1 are marked and named. This map is reprinted on page 400 of the HC but that one shows ALL important locations of the campaign at once, marked with letters and numbers.
"Lamm´s Lambs" stats are upgraded to young human on page 18 of the HC.
"Yargin Balko" now has a full body illustration instead of an upper body one. "Hookshanks Gruller" gets a full body illustration. "Giggles" gets a fbi. "Gaedren Lamm" gets a fbi.
Part 2:
King Eodred Arabasti gets a head illu. "Imps and Dragons" gets an illustration. "Meet the mob" gets a "Amin Jalento" head illu and his battle stats.
Part 3:
The illustration of "Sabina Merrin" on page 25 is not reprinted (she gets a new one on page 455).
Part 4:
"Cressida Croft" gets a head illu (and fbi on page 443). The Queens gets a new veiled head illu (the old one is more mysterious). The "renegade guards" stats in "All the Worlds Meat" get new stats. "Verik Vancasterkin" is upgraded from fighter 3 to fighter 4.
Part 5:
The "Ambassadors Secret" gets a new head illu. The fbi of "Vencarlo Orisini" from page 34 is not reprinted. The fbi of "Devargo Barvasi" on page 37 is replaced with a new one that is very much less impressive. He is upgraded from rogue 4 to rogue 5. "Majenko" is changed from pseudodragon to house drake. The illustration on page 41 is replaced with a new one (page 57). Both are equally creepy.
Part 6:
The "Trinia Sabor" fbi from page 43 is not reprinted (she gets a new look on page 460, but the old one is flashier). She is upgraded from bard 4 to bard 5. "The Shingle Chase" gets a better illustration. Curiously it features the old flashier Trinia Sabor outfit instead of the new.
Part 7:
The Owlbear skeleton gets gorgeous art on page 59 of the HC. The cool illustration on page 52 is replaced by a cool new one on HC page 61.
Cabbagehead´s head illu is replaced by a fbi. The "Gaekhen" head illu is not reprinted. "Vreeg" gets a much better new fbi.
Concluding the adventure:
The famous "green dress Illeosa Arabasti" illustration from page 56 (on which the first miniature is based) is NOT reprinted!
The Blackjack illustration from page 57 is replaced by a much better one on HC page 67.
Appendixes:
The 4 page Harrow article is updated to a 14 page one!
The 8 page "people of the road" article about varisians is not reprinted.
The 6 page Pathfinder´s journal is not reprinted.
Bestiary:
The illustration of the "Dream Spider", the only creature that hasn´t been adapted to a Bestiary yet, is not reprinted from page 82 but it´s stats are.
Inside back cover:
The "Korvosas enemies" overview is not reprinted.

While the new edition HC is better overall and everything needed for playing the campaign is included, updated and streamlined, quite a few cool things are left out.
I´m glad i got the original AP #7 too.

Even better than the original

5/5 —

Read my full review at Of Dice and Pen.

It was perhaps inevitable that Curse of the Crimson Throne would one day also receive a similar treatment to Rise of the Runelords. There’s no special anniversary to celebrate this year, but does there really need to be? Much like its Runelords predecessor, the new hardcover compilation of Crimson Throne updates the adventure path to Pathfinder rules and also expands on the story where beneficial and streamlines in other areas. It also takes advantage of the most recent rules supplements, making use of newer monsters, classes, and feats where appropriate.

At nearly 500 pages in length, it is actually a substantially larger tome than the hardcover Runelords (a good 50 pages or so longer), and its extra length is certainly put to good use. Indeed, it manages to make one of the best adventure paths even better.

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Dark Archive

The cover illustration is great!

I'm just not a big fan of framework that boxes the image in.
It's something i don't like with the normal AP covers too, but on them we have the full body images to break the frames restrictions.

That said, i am looking forward to the new art pieces inside.
Silver Crusade
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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Does anyone else look at the final cover and think #SquadGoals ?
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Not everyone speaks in Twitter. :-)

Tammy sees a friend.
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Liz Courts wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
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Spoiler:
Man, all of these puns about Sial's class change are just painful

Chris,

I truly DO love this cover. It's a great art piece and a wonderful setup for this AP. So kudos!
Dark Archive
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mourge40k wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
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In my re-imagining Sial became a Cleric/Diabolist and Dr. Davalaus became a Vivisectionist Alchemist.

Silver Crusade

Ooo, pretty cover....
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The only problem i have is the 30 or so Bucks needed for the shipping.. Which is why, tough i am more than willing to pay for the book, i will most likely not buy this, at least not as a preorder. Maybe i'll just wait till it gets translated in italian. Such a shame.
James i apreciate honesty and disclosure more than an immaculate production record. So thanks for the insight!

Edit: just Tried to sidecart it.. And the shipping became 0.. Does this mean i get a discounted shipping or the 30$ will just be added to the other shipping fees?
Scarab Sages

Shipping is always zero in the sidecart, because it can't calculate the actual shipping cost until it know what all is shipping.

Ah. Ok.. still... Can't wait for this!
Marik Whiterose wrote:
mourge40k wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **
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In my re-imagining Sial became a Cleric/Diabolist and Dr. Davalaus became a Vivisectionist Alchemist.

I completely agree with Davalaus being a vivisectionist alchemist.

However I always picture Sial more as an inquisitor or maybe a warpriest.
Liberty's Edge
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Here's hoping that its sanctioned quickly for PFS
Thomas Seitz wrote:
Marik Whiterose wrote:
mourge40k wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **
In my re-imagining Sial became a Cleric/Diabolist and Dr. Davalaus became a Vivisectionist Alchemist.

I completely agree with Davalaus being a vivisectionist alchemist.

However I always picture Sial more as an inquisitor or maybe a warpriest.

According to James Jacobs on the AP seminars at Paizocon it's actually

Spoiler:
Unchained summoner, with the kyton eidolon included in the adventure

Tonlim,

I'm aware of that since I asked James Jacobs that a while back.
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I wonder what level it ends at, whether it's 16 like the original or if they're able to get another level on the fast track. :-)

Probably do the full 20, I think captain. But I could be wrong.

I doubt that, Runelords only goes to 17-18, I can't imagine this would top that. :-)
Scarab Sages
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Wrath of the Righteous is the only one to ever go all the way to 20 and that was a special case. The AP developers have been very open about why they don't want to take APs to level 20. In addition, on this rewrite, they've been pretty descriptive about what they're removing and what they're adding, and it doesn't seem like there'd be a net gain of XP of more than a level, if that.

Alright! I concede! 16 it is!
Paizo Employee Creative Director
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It's about the same as the Runelords hardcover. Fast track, ends at about 17th level or thereabouts.
Scarab Sages
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Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

I remember the original player's guide had a map of Varisia, but I like the parchment style better for player handouts. Do you think the Varisia player's companion pdf could be updated to have its central map included as its own pdf, like in People of the Sands or Bastards of Golarion?
Paizo Employee Creative Director
logic_poet wrote:
I remember the original player's guide had a map of Varisia, but I like the parchment style better for player handouts. Do you think the Varisia player's companion pdf could be updated to have its central map included as its own pdf, like in People of the Sands or Bastards of Golarion?

Not really... we don't update PDFs/products in this way.

I highly recommend the Shattered Star Map Folio, the map of Varisia is also in that. :-)
Silver Crusade
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captain yesterday wrote:
I highly recommend the Shattered Star Map Folio, the map of Varisia is also in that. :-)

And it is GLORIOUS.

So we've established that: 1) It ends at 17th level and 2) James Jacobs enjoys crushing my dreams. :p ;)
Scarab Sages
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Thomas Seitz wrote:
So we've established that: 1) It ends at 17th level and 2) James Jacobs enjoys crushing my dreams. :p ;)

Mark of a good writer.

Maybe so, Duiker.
Thomas Seitz wrote:
So we've established that: 1) It ends at 17th level and 2) James Jacobs enjoys crushing my dreams. :p ;)

Who wouldn't?

I like my dreams, Four. :p That's why I have them. If only because the dull pounding on my brain from this reality annoys the hell out of me.

Also I look forward to seeing how Chained Spirit and Danse Macabre turn out.
Scarab Sages
Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
logic_poet wrote:
I remember the original player's guide had a map of Varisia, but I like the parchment style better for player handouts. Do you think the Varisia player's companion pdf could be updated to have its central map included as its own pdf, like in People of the Sands or Bastards of Golarion?
Not really... we don't update PDFs/products in this way.

Thanks for the reply. And thanks to Captain Yesterday for pointing out I have a version in the SS poster map bundle.

Liberty's Edge

Will Curse of the Crimson Throne - Anniversary Edition be available at Gencon 2016?

Is there any indication when it might ship to those who pre-ordered it? Before or after Gencon?

Given that Vol 1 of Strange Eons is not going to be ready for release at Gencon this year, I'm not as certain as I might have once been that Curse of the Crimson Throne will be there.

I can't believe I hadn't noticed this up until now. I've been hoping more old Adventure Paths would get updated. I like the cover art. Those guards look awesome.
Steel_Wind wrote:

Will Curse of the Crimson Throne - Anniversary Edition be available at Gencon 2016?

Is there any indication when it might ship to those who pre-ordered it? Before or after Gencon?

Given that Vol 1 of Strange Eons is not going to be ready for release at Gencon this year, I'm not as certain as I might have once been that Curse of the Crimson Throne will be there.

It won't be shipping by Gencon, the street date is Sept 28 so my guess is shipping is somewhere around the 14th of September, assuming no delays, which happen from time to time. :-)

Liberty's Edge
captain yesterday wrote:
Steel_Wind wrote:

Will Curse of the Crimson Throne - Anniversary Edition be available at Gencon 2016?

Is there any indication when it might ship to those who pre-ordered it? Before or after Gencon?

Given that Vol 1 of Strange Eons is not going to be ready for release at Gencon this year, I'm not as certain as I might have once been that Curse of the Crimson Throne will be there.

It won't be shipping by Gencon, the street date is Sept 28 so my guess is shipping is somewhere around the 14th of September, assuming no delays, which happen from time to time. :-)

Well, the PDF is generally only available 30 days after it ships, which would put the release to pre-orders somewhere near the end of August.

But given that the additional profit from direct sales on the Gencon floor of such a book would provide Paizo with 30,000-40,000 Good Reasons Why this book should be available at Indy on August 4, I'm feeling somewhat sanguine about its presence there, just the same.

I hope you're right. :-)
Silver Crusade
Steel_Wind wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Steel_Wind wrote:

Will Curse of the Crimson Throne - Anniversary Edition be available at Gencon 2016?

Is there any indication when it might ship to those who pre-ordered it? Before or after Gencon?

Given that Vol 1 of Strange Eons is not going to be ready for release at Gencon this year, I'm not as certain as I might have once been that Curse of the Crimson Throne will be there.

It won't be shipping by Gencon, the street date is Sept 28 so my guess is shipping is somewhere around the 14th of September, assuming no delays, which happen from time to time. :-)

Well, the PDF is generally only available 30 days after it ships, which would put the release to pre-orders somewhere near the end of August.

But given that the additional profit from direct sales on the Gencon floor of such a book would provide Paizo with 30,000-40,000 Good Reasons Why this book should be available at Indy on August 4, I'm feeling somewhat sanguine about its presence there, just the same.

I can think of even more reasons why doing so would be bad. Namely the subscribers and everyone else who preordered having to wait an extra 2 months and not being happy in the slightest with that arrangement.

If it got bumped up early for everyone then cool though.
Community & Digital Content Director

I can confirm that the street date for the PDF version is the street date of the hardcover itself. This book will not be arriving in time for Gen Con, and is slated for release in September.
Liberty's Edge
Chris Lambertz wrote:
I can confirm that the street date for the PDF version is the street date of the hardcover itself. This book will not be arriving in time for Gen Con, and is slated for release in September.

Sadness. Q.Q

Oh well. Some thing to enjoy after Labor Day I'd imagine. :)

You know like chained spirit and deadly haunts.

OH! And blood pig! :D
Paizo Employee Creative Director
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Well, I guess the good news there then is that it's ABSOLUTELY gonna be out for Gen Con 2017! Way early even!
Grand Lodge

I'll pick it up a little earlier than that, thanks. Gotta see what that dungeon was put to use for after all!
James Jacobs wrote:
Well, I guess the good news there then is that it's ABSOLUTELY gonna be out for Gen Con 2017! Way early even!

HOLY CRAP!! :DDD Awesomesauce!

*pauses* Dammit now I figure out a way to get GenCon. :p
Silver Crusade
Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Thomas Seitz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Well, I guess the good news there then is that it's ABSOLUTELY gonna be out for Gen Con 2017! Way early even!

HOLY CRAP!! :DDD Awesomesauce!

*pauses* Dammit now I figure out a way to get GenCon. :p

GenCon 2017 is over a year away, so you have plenty of time.

Mm good point. I guess I can save up for 2017 starting now...

Now for the Eternal Question: Do I buy it on Amazon for $50 and free shipping, or buy it from Paizo for $60 and another $12 shipping. Hey, not trying to be disloyal or anything, but $22 bucks is $22 bucks. So the question is whether the PDF is worth $22 when you already own a hardcover.
Plus Amazon will likely have it closer to $40 by the release date.
Maveric28 wrote:

Now for the Eternal Question: Do I buy it on Amazon for $50 and free shipping, or buy it from Paizo for $60 and another $12 shipping. Hey, not trying to be disloyal or anything, but $22 bucks is $22 bucks. So the question is whether the PDF is worth $22 when you already own a hardcover.

Plus Amazon will likely have it closer to $40 by the release date.

Well, I think it usually comes out on Amazon a few months after it comes out on Paizo, so that probably depends how quickly you want it.

Will there be an interactive maps for this (like Runelords?)
Dark Archive
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Maveric28 wrote:

Now for the Eternal Question: Do I buy it on Amazon for $50 and free shipping, or buy it from Paizo for $60 and another $12 shipping. Hey, not trying to be disloyal or anything, but $22 bucks is $22 bucks. So the question is whether the PDF is worth $22 when you already own a hardcover.

Plus Amazon will likely have it closer to $40 by the release date.

That pretty much depends on whether you are going to run game online or want to print out handouts from the pdf

Maveric28 wrote:

Now for the Eternal Question: Do I buy it on Amazon for $50 and free shipping, or buy it from Paizo for $60 and another $12 shipping. Hey, not trying to be disloyal or anything, but $22 bucks is $22 bucks. So the question is whether the PDF is worth $22 when you already own a hardcover.

Plus Amazon will likely have it closer to $40 by the release date.

I'm fairly certain (as in 100%) Paizo will tell you to go with what works best for you, and I sincerely doubt disloyalty is a word they'd use for anyone buying their products.

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