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There are things that dwell in the dark places of the world, in long-abandoned crypts or musty attics—terrible things that can destroy your body and shatter your mind. Few individuals would think to seek out such nightmares, but those drawn into the darkness often find it infecting them, corrupting them in ways both subtle and disgusting. Some believe those who die facing such horrors are the lucky ones, for the survivors are forever scarred by their experiences.

Pathfinder RPG Horror Adventures gives you everything you need to bring these nightmares to life. Within these pages, you'll find secrets to take your game into the darkest reaches of fantasy, where the dead hunger for the living, alien gods brood in dreams, and madness and death lurk around every corner. Rules for players and GMs alike pit brave champions against a darkness capable of devouring mind, body, and soul. To prepare to face such torments, the heroes can take new feats, learn powerful spells, and even acquire holy relics—for they'll need every edge possible to survive!

Pathfinder RPG Horror Adventures includes:

  • Corruptions that can turn your character into a powerful monster, from a blood-drinking vampire to a savage werewolf. The only cost is your soul!
  • Character options to help heroes oppose the forces of darkness, including horror-themed archetypes, feats, spells, and more!
  • A detailed system to represent sanity and madness, giving you all the tools you need to drive characters to the brink and beyond.
  • Tips and tools for running a genuinely scary game, along with an in-depth look at using horror's many subgenres in a Pathfinder campaign.
  • Expanded rules for curses, diseases, environments, fleshwarping, haunts, and deadly traps.
  • New templates to turn monsters into truly terrifying foes, from creatures made of living wax to a stalker that can never be stopped!
  • ... and much, much more!

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Spooky Fun, Can't Wait to Curse My Players

5/5 —

I am in love with this book. The themes for archetypes are spot on and everything goes beyond horror basics, it's much more than vampires, werewolves, and zombies (though they are included). Some of my favorite elements are the Deep One corruption (corruptions in general are sweet, this seems like a well balanced mechanic for horribly warping the PCs into monsters, while still giving them a way to fight it) and the Gingerbread Witch. The Deep One corruption is a great example of the depth of horror this book includes, this plays on a less often used horror theme of the paranoia of harming oneself (in this case, by drowning). This reminds me so much of elements from the book The Boy Who Drew Monsters, and the mom's terrible fascination with people who drowned in a shipwreck a hundred years ago. You could adopt this same corruption for vertigo or even a bodily harm thing. On a lighter side, the Gingerbread Witch made me so, so happy. It's a well thought out archetype, I'm not sure they'd be great as a player character (but there aren't evil restrictions, so have at!) but I can't wait to insert a horrible Gingerbread Witch near some unassuming town, with her creepy haunted gingerbread house and evil delicious familiar.

I just can't say enough good things about the mechanics. They are flexible enough that you don't have to have a horror specific campaign to use elements from this book. The fear and sanity rules can be used with any campaign to add realism or more of a gritty fantasy feel. If your level 1 characters just killed a person for the first time, maybe they should lose some sanity and wrestle with that emotion. If they are in a dank, creepy dungeon with skeletons, maybe some of them would be spooked. The rules for adapting fear resistant characters like Paladins are also nicely balanced and I appreciate that attention to detail - your paladins don't have to yawn at the sideline, they're vulnerable too, just in a way less debilitating way that actually paints them as more of a hero around evil and undead.

Lastly, the warning about needing consent before using this book in a campaign was a very nice touch. That totally hooked me when starting to read this book. I kind of thought I'd just have spooky themed elements, but that paragraph inspired me to try to take this to the next level. How fun would it be to have a session that turns your actual living room into a haunted house, or to be the director of the scariest experience your friends have had all year?

If Halloween is your favorite holiday or you love low, gritty fantasy, I highly recommend this book. I will be reading this one cover to cover and am excited to use its elements for many, many sessions.

An Endzeitgeist.com review

5/5 —

This massive hardcover clocks in at 255 pages - if you take away editorial, index, etc., you still arrive at 249 pages of content, which is A LOT.

I was gifted a copy of this book for the purpose of a fair and unbiased review. My review is based on the hardcover of this book.

Now, the first thing I'd ask you to do, is to read the series of Miscellaneous Musings I wrote on horror gaming in general. Or least the last one. Why? Because it is my firm conviction that one has to establish realistic expectations in order to review a book such as this.

(The articles are fully linked on my page.)

Alternatively, if you already own it, there is a sentence in the advice chapter on running horror games that should be taken to heart: "Pathfinder is not designed with horror in mind." I'd like to elaborate on this, at least briefly. As I have established in my long, long rants on the subject matter, it is my firm conviction that you can run horror in PFRPG, even purist horror, but that the base system per se is more conductive towards playing the angle of pitting horror against the angle of heroism, of allowing PCs to have a shot against the darkness. While you can modify PFRPG to play akin to CoC, the game is simply more conductive towards the heroic angle.

It is a testament to PFRPG's versatility that horror of any way works in the first place, in spite of the focus of the game. Now secondly, I'd like to address two aspects of the game and what we can expect, with the first being character options. We are all aware of the vast array of built-options available for PFRPG and thus, it should come as no surprise that yes, we do receive a significant array of player- (or at least character-)centric options. Which would bring me to the first observation: It is my firm convictions that players should stay out of this book.

No, really. You see, quite a lot of the new class options, like the blood alchemist, elder mythos cultist, hexenhammer or medium spirit-variants like the butcher or lich (for champion and archmage, to give two examples) scream "NPC" for me. I know, it is perhaps not what you'd expect me to do, but ultimately, I consider the material here to be mostly intended for the GM. Yes, we have martyr paladins with stigmata and bloody jake slayers and serial killer vigilantes. Yes, some players will want to play these...but from my experience as a horror-GM, it may actually make sense restricting these...or simply not telling the players about the rules. Before you're asking, btw.: From a min-maxing perspective, you'll probably find better options anyways...but if that's a consideration for you when playing in a horror game, I'd strongly suggest thinking about priorities and of what makes for a fun game for everyone - see my long, long posts on the necessary contract/gentlemen's agreement between the GM and player.

That being said, there is one aspect I am holding against this book, in spite of the aforementioned previous considerations, and that would be that there is no dividing line between content obviously designed for players/good guys and that for villains - it does show in the archetype-section and, more than that, in the feat-section, where we can find REALLY cool Story-feats alongside a bunch of feats intended for evil characters or monsters - in the latter case often enhancing universal monster abilities and providing further numerical escalation - which would be less of an issue, if PFRPG didn't have this many options to gain access to precisely these abilities. In short, we are catering to a mindset here that kinda undermines the horror premise the rest of the book is trying hard to set up. In short: We also get a lot of alternate racial traits for the core races, which generally fit with the themes of horror, though the fortification they offer against these challenges don't really fit my personal vision of what I like to play in the context of such a campaign, but your mileage here may obviously vary. These are my least favorite aspects of the book.

But let's move back to the very beginning: The advice given for players when making characters for horror adventures is extremely sound and should most certainly be read carefully - the book spells pretty much out what I did, minus the advice on Achilles heels, but I guess you can't have everything. The notes on making a compelling personality etc. makes sense, and so does the advice of roleplaying fear. I am a big fan of the note that the book emphasizes conspiration and communication with the GM here.

One of my favorite parts herein would be the more diversified take on Fear: We are introduced to a 7-step progression tree of various states of fear, including rules on immunity to fear and how it should be used in conjunction with this system. It works pretty seamlessly, though I honestly wished the already widely in use cowering condition had been implemented here as well - considering the effects of the highest fear-level "horrified", the differences are not that pronounced. And yes, I am aware that this adds a bit of potential complexity to some options, but here at least, I consider the trade off worth it.

Sanity...is a bit more clunky. We get a relatively simple system: Add mental attributes together and you have the sanity score; half of that is the sanity edge. This determines the severity of the madness incurred when something exceeds your sanity threshold - which is equal to the bonus of the highest mental attribute bonus. When you incur a sanity attack and its damage exceeds the threshold, you gain a madness - simple, yes...but it does ultimately reward characters that are SAD on a mental attribute, whereas in my opinion, sanity-shattering effects often are made worse by understanding them properly, perceiving them properly, etc. The system is not bad per se, but it requires managing three scores and for that, it doesn't deliver the results I'm personally looking for in such a system. Your mileage may vary, obviously, but yeah.

The star-subsystem here would be basically PFRPG's take on dark powers-checks, so-called corruptions. These tie in with character flaws of the PC and represent a dark and malevolent stain on the character that slowly mutates them, granting benefits, while at the same time driving them further down the dark path. Where previously, in Ravenloft, you ultimately became a darklord, corruptions now have 3 stages, with the final stage usually turning you NPC. Progression along this path is via a variety of actions and they generally have a catalyst to first spring them on a character. These corruptions also feature tempting powers, so-called manifestations, which also come with a stain, a drawback, that is in relation to the behavior in question.

Now, first things first: At one point, I wrote a pretty long essay on how to tempt both players and PCs at the same time with horrific power and the psychological reasons to do so - while it has been cut and never been published, let me summarize: I argued that a weakness of the monster-transformation aspect championed by Ravenloft was, that on the one hand, the PC should be horrified by what he does, while craving the power in question. Similarly, the player should feel the same.

If there is a disjoint between player and PC, roleplaying suffers. The corruptions, when looking at them, are surprisingly tame - not in their visuals, mind you: The hive, for example, is really icky. Still, it is somewhat surprising to see the heavy penalty of corruption stage 3...and at the same time, the significant array of manifestations each corruption offers. Now, some folks have complained about the risk of being turned NPC being too high (it's a sort of game over, after all), but from a meta-design perspective it can be a motivator for munchkins to take heed.

There is another aspect to the system pretty much every review I read did not pick up on - and I don't get why. In my third essay on horror gaming, I talked about the realities of being a big publisher and not one of the underground one-man operations. I also talked briefly about the witch hunts our hobby is subject to, one that continues in some regions and circles. More than that, moral and aesthetic limitations vary within persons - more so between folks. As the big dog that Paizo is, it is pretty hard to sell "play a monstrously vile thing and the descent into evil" to a part of their demographic - though, in particularly the hardcore horror fans will want exactly that, the teetering on the edge of damnation experience, for from this precipice, the best redemption stories are woven.

Here's the beautiful thing about the corruption system: The increase of manifestations is not tied to the corruption stage progression. At all. You can retain the whole save mechanics, variants and the whole rest and just throw out the three stages. You can introduce as many stages as you'd like (perhaps 7 or 5, as previous editions of the game did - perhaps 13, if you want to go an occult angle...) - the system's validity remains. And yes, I'll confess, my kneejerk response was like that of many out there, to complain and curse about the 3 stages - but know what? This is by far the best and most detailed (and balanced) such system I have seen for a d20-based game. It covers the company and at the same time, easily allows for PCs and NPCs, for GMs and players alike, to enjoy a system I never expected to see in this shape or form from a big publisher. Now personally, I would have actually increased the potency of the corruptions if you're running with the stage-limit and NPC-threat...but, once again, that is if you're planning on playing a relatively tame campaign. The fact that each manifestation has its custom gifts and stains, completely divorced from the stages, means that you retain maximum control when tweaking the system to your needs. The fact that the save to resist progression is tied to compulsive behavior means that even it, as an aspect, remains valid, its tie to further manifestations in the save-calculation providing a roleplaying catalyst even without the presence of the threat of NPCdom.

The chapter on magic provides a wide array of thematically fitting spells that range from the subtle to the in-your-face blunt - sleepwalking suggestions, massive, gory blood effects and cursed terrain generally make sense and even otherwise pretty standard damage spells included herein sport nice visuals: Screaming flames? Yes, I can see that working. I am honestly more in love with the fact that we get a 5 pretty neat occult rituals here that all are amazing in their own way, with each having the potential to act as a proper plot-cornerstone. I wished we got more of them!

Now, I mentioned that I consider this to be a GM-book and indeed, the GM-section is a bit of a treasure trove in some aspects: We get a couple of new curses and advice on making more, as well as notes on cursed lands and items - if the topic interests you: Both Legendary games and Rite Publishing have released whole supplements dealing with curses, often in really creative ways, but that as an aside. Curse templates allow for the customization of curses herein. Now, the disease chapter gets my full-blown applause for disease templates - and e.g. the one named "incurable." It actually does what it says on the tin! (minus the usual wish/miracle-caveat) - this is amazing. I mean it. Diseases have, in pretty much every d20-based system, been afterthoughts, crippled, lame and ultimately were the lame brothers of poison. This changes that. The sample diseases like "brain moss" or "gore worms" also make me tingle and twitch in a good way.

Speaking of things I like: We get a vast number of cool terrain hazards, haunted spots and the like to add to encounters, allowing for quick and easy eerie customizations. Domains of Evil can also be found. You know. Domains. With dread fog. That modify how magic works. With hazards and potentially different flow of time. That are haunted. Yeah, let's stop teh pretense here: If you're like me and a sucker for Ravenloft, then this chapter will have you smile from ear to ear, even before the rules on nightmares and the couple of traps. These, btw., unfortunately are the roll to see and disable kind - particularly in a horror game, team effort, complex traps that require multiple tasks make for the more compelling option, but I digress.

Now, the next section of rules is something that I was looking forward to, since it had been featured, but never codified properly in rules at least not by Paizo (there are a couple of 3pp-forays into that territory)- fleshwarping! And yes, it is cool. It sports a ton of nice effects, but the system is, to a degree, a double-edged sword: On one hand, fleshwarping works really well and on the other, its price is perhaps a bit too high: Let me elaborate: Fleshcrafts can either be permanent grafts or temporary mutations, instilled by an elixir that requires succeeding a Fort-save to gain the benefits. The temporary prices and benefits and being keyed to slots etc. makes sense for the elixirs, but since the effects also sport a penalty, the price for the respective fleshcraft grafts is still pretty high when compared to magic items - baseline for the grafts seems to have been 1/2 of a comparable item's base price to make up for the drawback. Considering the disfiguring nature of these options, that may still be pretty high, though. It depends a bit. Chaotic fleshwarping mutations can also be found - and unlike the chaositech mutations of yore, these generally are detrimental.

The extensive section on haunts that follows includes templates for them (called haunt elements) as well as variants like dimensional instabilities, maddening influence, magical scars and psychic haunts. The array presented ranges from humble Cr 1/4 to CR 20, including classics like being buried alive or the twisted wish. Madnesses are codified in lesser and greater madnesses - big plus here: For once, a supplement does not confuse schizophrenia with dissociated identities. (Seriously, if I had a buck whenever I saw that being confused...)

Now, one of the most useful sections regarding GM-considerations would be the massive chapter that deals with running horror games - which not only classifies and quantifies horror sub.genres, their tropes, etc., but also mentions all the classics like lighting, music, creating an undisturbed environment, etc. - tricks for dealing with various snags, how to encourage horror roleplaying etc. - and it is sad, but obviously necessary that, beyond talking about what does and does not fly with individual players, overdoing it does not work. HOWEVER, I do actually disagree with one aspect - involving outside people. To have an unrelated accomplice like a spouse play with the light on e.g. a stormy evening - not all the time, but once or twice, can be rather effective...but I generally get why these disclaimers are here. This section, obviously, is targeted at less experienced GMs in the genre - and in particular such GMs will also appreciate the section on improvising rules for e.g. being buried alive, crumbling structures, etc.

Part II of my review can be found here!

Subpar book, mostly for GMs

2/5 —

This book has a lot of systems, mechanics, archetypes, feats, spells, environment challenges, haunts, curses, etc. While most of it is clearly presented and has enough flavor text to give you some ideas on how to use it, everything just seems to fall flat.

My two biggest gripes (I have more than just two):
1) The sanity system is horribly balanced, heavily penalizing martial characters, and it's effects are easily cured by powerful spells. Really poorly executed, why make the gap between martials and casters even worse?
2) Most of the Archetypes are realistically for GM use only, as they are very niche. I wanted to give my players a lot of cool horror themed archetypes to play with, instead they got a scant few.

This book really could have been SO much better. Disappointed.

Paizo Knows Horror and Here's Their New Toolkit!

5/5 —

Paizo reviews come in two forms: players that whine because they wanted something other than what was in the book (^^^)and then gamemasters/players that actually review the material provided. This is a review from the latter.

Paizo has created some of the best horror themed adventures for Pathfinder and Dungeons and Dragons over the course of their existence. In this book, they round it all up and spell out all of the tricks and tips they use to make it happen.

I have written everything from adventures to comic books to film scripts and I would easily hand this book over to a non-gaming writer that needed advice on how to create horror. This book goes to great lengths to provide players with archetypes for classes to use in horror themed adventures as well as giving gamemasters tools they need to create horror in session after session.

Players get archetypes, feats, spells and new gear with which to battle the horrific forces of the multiverse. GMs get a ton of new tools including a nifty new Bestiary that brings us Pathfinder versions of Alien-style xenomorphs called the Hive AND a nice analogue for the Slender Man called the Unknown. Horror requires more than monsters, so you also get new rules on corruptions, curses, diseases, horrific environments, fleshwarping, haunts, madness and more!

Creating horror is more than giving players more 0's they can add to their attacks. It involves setting, tone, atmosphere and management of expectations. If you want to run a game that makes your players fear for their characters lives, then pick up this book and give it a read. Follow up with the recommended reading and required viewing and you'll get a feeling for how to instill dread in everyone sitting at your table.

More Like Evil Adventures

3/5 —

This book feels more like Pathfinder's version of the Book of Vile Darkness then horror themed adventures. Also this is a very DM heavy book though I thought it would be 70% player 30% DM but is actually the other way around.

The Good
-I loved the Dread Lord, Hive, Trompe L'Oeil, Unknown, and Waxwork Creature.
-I like the Corruptions.
-I like the reprint/expanding of madness rules.
-I like some of the magic items like mantle of life, monster almanac, and elder sign.
-I liked a few archetypes like the two for witches.

The Bad
-Too many evil archetypes, spells, etc.
-Do not like the sanity rules.
-Do not like the fleshwarping rules for characters.
-Most of archetypes were lacking or unusable for players.
-Very few interesting spells that are player friendly.
-Very few interesting feats.
-Not enough character options related to specific class features like wild talents, bloodlines, rogue talents, oracle curses/mysteries, etc.

I feel this book was a missed opportunity for same great horror based player character options. Such as expanded options for void kineticist like fear effects, controlling/creating undead, etc. new psychic disciplines, sorcerer/bloodrager bloodlines, oracle curses/mysteries, hexes, phantom emotion focuses, etc. I could even see some interesting ideas for rogue talents, rage powers, slayer talents, etc. I would have been fine with reprints like the pestilence sorcerer bloodline, kineticist void element, and other fitting options from past books.

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Dragon78 wrote:

Are there any artifacts?

Cup of Forbidden Knowledge, Dark Grimoire, and the Elder Sign are the three artifacts listed and are all Minor Artifacts.

Silver Crusade
Dragon78 wrote:

Are there any artifacts?

What is the painting based monster like?

Yep, Cup of Forbidden Knowledge, Dark Grimoire, and the Elder Sign.

Trompe l’oeil is a template and armor bonus type changes if it's actually painted with armor or not, it can go into any painting it touches, and it will respawn as long as it's original painting is still intact.
Silver Crusade
Matrix Dragon wrote:

I'm going to have to read the pdf when I get it, but my current plan to balance the corruptions in a party is to make a player have to pay for them with picks from my magic item replacement system. Basically, for every few levels of corruption the character gains, he would effectively be losing a magical item upgrade.

In theory, this would make corrupted characters balanced with standard characters. I'll have to read the system for myself first though.

This isn't really necessary. The Stains (aka the bad stuff you get with EACH Manifestion) aren't anything to scoff at or easy to mitigate.

Trust me, a lot of people will probably be very wary about willingly wanting to get a Corruption when they see what all the risks are.
Matrix Dragon wrote:

I'm going to have to read the pdf when I get it, but my current plan to balance the corruptions in a party is to make a player have to pay for them with picks from my magic item replacement system. Basically, for every few levels of corruption the character gains, he would effectively be losing a magical item upgrade.

In theory, this would make corrupted characters balanced with standard characters. I'll have to read the system for myself first though.

The issue here is you're equating a magical item with a manifestation, and while the manifestations can have a nice bonus, they also come with a potentially very ugly penalty. That just really isn't going to override the desire for a magical item, and that's not even including the Russia roulette aspect. To take away a magical item from a PC to gain... this... seems significantly unfair to the PC.

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Rysky wrote:


Trust me, a lot of people will probably be very wary about willingly wanting to get a Corruption when they see what all the risks are.

Geez, who would have thought something called "corruption" would have drawbacks? I guess it's why they aren't called "super happy fun time bonus boosts" instead.

Silver Crusade
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Generic Villain wrote:
Rysky wrote:


Trust me, a lot of people will probably be very wary about willingly wanting to get a Corruption when they see what all the risks are.
Geez, who would have thought something called "corruption" would have drawbacks? I guess it's why they aren't called "super happy fun time bonus boosts" instead.

Oh no, they are called that.

By the Ustalavic Board of Tourism.
Sczarni
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Matrix Dragon wrote:

I'm going to have to read the pdf when I get it, but my current plan to balance the corruptions in a party is to make a player have to pay for them with picks from my magic item replacement system. Basically, for every few levels of corruption the character gains, he would effectively be losing a magical item upgrade.

In theory, this would make corrupted characters balanced with standard characters. I'll have to read the system for myself first though.

In all honesty, Matrix, The corruptions are already balanced.

Take for example this, "Stench of the Grave"

You get an aura of decay that can sicken people around you.

The result? Any creature you encounter has a starting attitude of 'one less' than their normal attitude.

Get the upgraded Greater Stench of the Grave?

They become nauseated for one round THEN sickened for 1d6 rounds, but also living creatures with a sense of smell REFUSE to engage with you at all, so you fail ALL diplomacy and handle animal checks immediately and don't even get to try them.

All of the corruptions are like this.

Plus the risk that if they are corrupted, there is a chance they might lose their character (with enough failed saves)

So losing a magical item upgrade PLUS having these detriments would probably be way too much. I think they are balanced as is.

Any spells with the "light", "force", or "sonic" descriptor?

Does the hive have any DR/resistances/immunities?
Designer

To be fair to Matrix Dragon, I read it that he's planning on replacing item upgrades as a way to balance "beneficial" corruptions where the corrupted PC skips the stains and possibly the catalyst progression, but without having every character be corrupted as the beneficial corruptions variant suggests.
Dragon78 wrote:

Any spells with the "light", "force", or "sonic" descriptor?

Does the hive have any DR/resistances/immunities?

I too am curious about these types of spells and who gets them...

Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.

Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Silver Crusade
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.
Mark Seifter wrote:
To be fair to Matrix Dragon, I read it that he's planning on replacing item upgrades as a way to balance "beneficial" corruptions where the corrupted PC skips the stains and possibly the catalyst progression, but without having every character be corrupted as the beneficial corruptions variant suggests.

:)

Yea, I'm a big supporter of character customization, so my goal is probably going to be to find a way to let players gain some of the bonuses from corruptions in a manner that isn't crippling and is balanced with 'normal' party members. With my houserules, simply making the corruptions cost magical item bonuses is the simplest method to maintain party balance.

I might simply remove the downsides of the corruptions (via the Beneficial version that you mentioned) because some of the downsides sound harsh enough that it would cause trouble for the entire party and I'm not sure that I want to encourage players to pick up that kind of stuff.

Like I said though, I'll have to read up on the corruptions to see how viable this is. Balance between players and inter-party harmony are just as important as customization options. Plus, in some cases the corruption downsides are important flavor.
Sczarni
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Second Chance is an amazing ability. You get it at 2nd level and can set triggers such as "when I become paralyzed" or "When I fall unconscious".

The Tortured crusader gets this as part of its "package"
Silver Crusade
Verzen wrote:

Second Chance is an amazing ability. You get it at 2nd level and can set triggers such as "when I become paralyzed" or "When I fall unconscious".

The Tortured crusader gets this as part of its "package"

*nods*

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Verzen wrote:


And not much in this book will be PDF legal it seems.

Aw, man! Does that mean the entire book will have to be converted to .docx, .txt, .png, .tex, or .html? Ya know, since it will be illegal to store the book's contents in PDF form.

Sczarni
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Matrix, for flavor wise, I'd highly suggest playing as is with what the rules state. The corruptions are ALL SORTS OF flavorful.

One of them is that if you have the ghoul corruption, you must eat sentient human flesh (at least a small creature) every week. If you don't, you start hungering and hungering and hungering, eventually losing control of your character and your character starts hunting some creature to eat. That's your first corruption. Then you eventually gain a second corruption level if you continue, then a 3rd and the 3rd, you lose control of your character for good.

BUT you can halt this progression by just feasting on sentient creatures. Every time you refuse to eat sentient creatures, though or can't feast on them, the DC increases by 2 the next time you make a will save to resist the corruption.
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

So lemme get this straight. A WIS based Oath of Vengance Paladin with

4+INT skill points ...sounds like a dream come true!

Edit: I'm getting so exited about this I'm sure it won't be PDF legal...
Sczarni
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Rysky wrote:
Verzen wrote:

Second Chance is an amazing ability. You get it at 2nd level and can set triggers such as "when I become paralyzed" or "When I fall unconscious".

The Tortured crusader gets this as part of its "package"

*nods*

Almost forgot part of it hah.

It's a lay on hands trigger that you set...

So if I fall unconscious, I can set a lay on hands trigger to be cast on me automatically without spending an action.

Or I can have a mercy to cure me from paralysis if I become paralyzed.

Anyhow, which, if any, of the following are contained in this book?
a)Traits
b)Flaws/Drawbacks
c)Prestige classes
d)Cleric domains
e)0th level spells
f)9th level spells
g)Templates which are either +0 CR or reduce the creature's CR.
h)0HD races
i)Traps
j)Story Feats
k)Teamwork feats
Verzen wrote:

Matrix, for flavor wise, I'd highly suggest playing as is with what the rules state. The corruptions are ALL SORTS OF flavorful.

One of them is that if you have the ghoul corruption, you must eat sentient human flesh (at least a small creature) every week. If you don't, you start hungering and hungering and hungering, eventually losing control of your character and your character starts hunting some creature to eat. That's your first corruption. Then you eventually gain a second corruption level if you continue, then a 3rd and the 3rd, you lose control of your character for good.

BUT you can halt this progression by just feasting on sentient creatures. Every time you refuse to eat sentient creatures, though or can't feast on them, the DC increases by 2 the next time you make a will save to resist the corruption.

Hmmm. Yea, these are flavorful, but not really something that I can see most parties wanting to deal with on a regular basis, lol. I'll have to see if I can find some sort of balance between the two extremes.

I *could* just let my players use their hero points to suppress the downsides of their corruptions, lol.
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Alex Mack wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

So lemme get this straight. A WIS based Oath of Vengance Paladin with

4+INT skill points ...sounds like a dream come true!

Yep! they also get Stealth AND Perception as class skills!

Squeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.

Designer
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Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.

Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!
Designer
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Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

... I hadn't even checked since Inquisitors aren't really my thing...

*checks*

Heh. Zohls. Wait... Is that some kind of innuendo for the Living Grimoire wanting someone to discover what's behind the belt buckle?
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Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

... I hadn't even checked since Inquisitors aren't really my thing...

*checks*

Heh. Zohls.

You speak Verity. As to whether it was a metaphor for discovering the secret of the clasp, that's just an added bonus of how it turned out. Mostly just seemed an appropriate patron for the Intelligence-based thinking inquisitor, and of course the book holy symbol doesn't hurt.

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

I actually missed the Martyr-Vildeis connection, though it probably should have been obvious!

I did notice the Inquisitor bit, though. Wasn't sure on the meaning of any of the runes on the book meant. It took me a while to figure out the paintbrush, but eventually it clicked.
Designer
Xethik wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

I actually missed the Martyr-Vildeis connection, though it probably should have been obvious!

I did notice the Inquisitor bit, though. Wasn't sure on the meaning of any of the runes on the book meant, though! It took me a while to figure out the paintbrush, but eventually it clicked.

As per the order, those are just cool-looking "strange patterns" on the book, so don't worry about that one.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

... I hadn't even checked since Inquisitors aren't really my thing...

*checks*

Heh. Zohls.

You speak Verity. As to whether it was a metaphor for discovering the secret of the clasp, that's just an added bonus of how it turned out. Mostly just seemed an appropriate patron for the Intelligence-based thinking inquisitor, and of course the book holy symbol doesn't hurt.

I appreciate these little details you put into your art orders ^w^

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Anyone care to divulge a bit on the new Medium spirits?
Designer
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Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

... I hadn't even checked since Inquisitors aren't really my thing...

*checks*

Heh. Zohls.

You speak Verity. As to whether it was a metaphor for discovering the secret of the clasp, that's just an added bonus of how it turned out. Mostly just seemed an appropriate patron for the Intelligence-based thinking inquisitor, and of course the book holy symbol doesn't hurt.
I appreciate these little details you put into your art orders ^w^

Thanks! I really appreciate just how great a job our art team and artists do in bringing them to life. It's really exciting to see the order transformed into a real picture. I think we've pointed out most of little details I remember for this book (the others being the foot of the serial killer vigilante and the tricky to spot eyes of the dreamstalker mesmerist).

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d@ncingNumfar wrote:
Anyone care to divulge a bit on the new Medium spirits?

Butcher - Champion

Deceiver - Trickster
Heretic - Hierophant
Lich - Archmage
Warmonger - Marshal

All very, very evil.
Sczarni
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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

You forgot one, Rysky. Terminator - Guardian
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Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

... I hadn't even checked since Inquisitors aren't really my thing...

*checks*

Heh. Zohls.

You speak Verity. As to whether it was a metaphor for discovering the secret of the clasp, that's just an added bonus of how it turned out. Mostly just seemed an appropriate patron for the Intelligence-based thinking inquisitor, and of course the book holy symbol doesn't hurt.
I appreciate these little details you put into your art orders ^w^
Thanks! I really appreciate just how great a job our art team and artists do in bringing them to life. It's really exciting to see the order transformed into a real picture. I think we've pointed out most of little details I remember for this book (the others being the foot of the serial killer vigilante and the tricky to spot eyes of the dreamstalker mesmerist).

^w^

I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Mark Seifter wrote:
Xethik wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

I actually missed the Martyr-Vildeis connection, though it probably should have been obvious!

I did notice the Inquisitor bit, though. Wasn't sure on the meaning of any of the runes on the book meant, though! It took me a while to figure out the paintbrush, but eventually it clicked.

As per the order, those are just cool-looking "strange patterns" on the book, so don't worry about that one.

That's exactly what someone covering up a massive conspiracy would say!

Looking at the archetype itself again, I totally missed that you could play some Lovecraftian tome wielder, not just a holy zealot of your god. Minor reflavoring, sure, but a very interesting premise for me. Brandon Hodge did a great job with that one! Fits multiple themes of the horror archetypes. Using the word of their god to smite foes or inflicting madness (and pain) with eldritch tomes!

Im gonna assume that the Living Grimoure either loses or alters monster lore.

What does it get?
Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Rysky wrote:
d@ncingNumfar wrote:
Anyone care to divulge a bit on the new Medium spirits?

Butcher - Champion

Deceiver - Trickster
Heretic - Hierophant
Lich - Archmage
Warmonger - Marshal

All very, very evil.

Thanks!

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Deadkitten wrote:

Im gonna assume that the Living Grimoure either loses or alters monster lore.

What does it get?

Book weapon.

Designer
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.
Designer
Xethik wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Xethik wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alex Mack wrote:
Xethik wrote:
The Wisdom Paladin is in this book, as a heads up.
Awesome. Finally I can build a Dwarven Paladin. Am I correct in assuming that the archetype looses the equivalent of Divine Grace?

Yes.

But you also gain TWO MORE SKILL POINTS! you can actually play a Paladin with ranks in stuff!

More seriously the archetype (tortured crusader) is actually really awesome.

All the Paladin archetypes scream "Vildeis" to me.
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Once you get the book, check the art of the martyr carefully. ;)

hehe I saw that.

Now THAT'S a Holy Symbol!

Well done indeed! But did you notice what the living grimoire's belt-level cloak clasp entails? It's trickier to spot, and I might not have had I not been the one to order it.

I actually missed the Martyr-Vildeis connection, though it probably should have been obvious!

I did notice the Inquisitor bit, though. Wasn't sure on the meaning of any of the runes on the book meant, though! It took me a while to figure out the paintbrush, but eventually it clicked.

As per the order, those are just cool-looking "strange patterns" on the book, so don't worry about that one.

That's exactly what someone covering up a massive conspiracy would say!

Looking at the archetype itself again, I totally missed that you could play some Lovecraftian tome wielder, not just a holy zealot of your god. Minor reflavoring, sure, but a very interesting premise for me. Brandon Hodge did a great job with that one! Fits multiple themes of the horror archetypes. Using the word of their god to smite foes or inflicting madness (and pain) with eldritch tomes!

Yeah, they're a little similar in niche to the "archivist" concept in that sense.

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Verzen wrote:
You forgot one, Rysky. Terminator - Guardian

Ah, I did! Thankies :3

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...
Designer
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Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...

Huh, hadn't even thought about the fact that it wound up with a similar outfit to the reference pic. Well spotted!

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...

Huh, hadn't even thought about the fact that it wound up with a similar outfit to the reference pic. Well spotted!

Thankies :3

1 person marked this as a favorite.
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Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...

Huh, hadn't even thought about the fact that it wound up with a similar outfit to the reference pic. Well spotted!
Thankies :3

Yeah I couldn't tell you why, but when I saw the art I just knew it was a Changeling. Like it wasn't a consideration or anything. The artist did a great job at giving off that fact without it being written in text. But I had to zoom in REALLY hard to see the difference in color. Might be tough to spot in print, but I also always do VERY poorly on those color-difference tests, so maybe that's just me.

Designer
Xethik wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...

Huh, hadn't even thought about the fact that it wound up with a similar outfit to the reference pic. Well spotted!
Thankies :3
Yeah I couldn't tell you why, but when I saw the art I just knew it was a Changeling. Like it wasn't a consideration or anything. The artist did a great job at giving off that fact without it being written in text.

I love it when a plan comes together! Seemed a missed opportunity for a dreamstalker not to be a changeling.

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I'm really torn between using my Paizocon voucher to get the PDF for free and holding off until I have money so I can buy the hardcover for $35.

I have never been this excited about a Paizo release. Not since the last issue of Dragon, or maybe the Age of Worms hardcover that you've totally been keeping under wraps all this time I know it's on its way DON'T TRUST THE PAIZO-RUN MEDIA WAKE UP SHEEPLE
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Mark Seifter wrote:
Xethik wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
Rysky wrote:


I caught the Mesmerist without even looking at her eyes, the outfit and pose gave her away immediately.

For the Serial Killer? I want to say Mel but I don't think that's right...

The outfit and pose gave her away in what way? My guess it that her eyes give something additional away, but I might be wrong.

As to the serial killer, it's nothing complicated, just a hint at what her two identities are, tying into why she uses a misaligned Midwife Harrow card as her calling card.

Here's the very first piece of Changeling art that Paizo put out, back in Carrion Crown.

*scratches head for the Serial Killer*

You're gonna make me overthink this one...

Huh, hadn't even thought about the fact that it wound up with a similar outfit to the reference pic. Well spotted!
Thankies :3
Yeah I couldn't tell you why, but when I saw the art I just knew it was a Changeling. Like it wasn't a consideration or anything. The artist did a great job at giving off that fact without it being written in text.
I love it when a plan comes together! Seemed a missed opportunity for a dreamstalker not to be a changeling.

Definitely, Thankies :3

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