KaiserBruno |
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^Erinyes Company? Is this a company of people seeking to become Erinyes (like a certain nearly extinct Sisterhood in Westcrown), or a company of Erinyes that managed to get long-term residence on Golarion?
The Eyrines Company are a bunch of former Gray Maidens that pledged loyalty to Abrogail after Ileosa's death. They were mentioned in the Gray Maidens article in the second book of Shattered Star.
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Circuit Judge
* Picks an area, gains bonuses to Intimidate, Knowledge: Local, Sense Motive, and all law-related skill checks while in that area. The area expands as the judge gains levels, and they get to pick other areas. Replaces Tactician line.
* Gains a 1/day ability to hit a target with a sentencing that applies an Inquisitor judgment. Replaces challenge.
There's also the Order of the Ennead Star, which focuses on enforcing the law and fighting chaos.
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Godclaw Mystery
* Revelation options include a boon from each of the Godclaw deities.
* There's a boon in there that makes *every* one of your damage-dealing spells that includes a save auto-inflict shaken for a number of rounds equal to spell level upon failed save.
* There's a revelation in there that gives you Divine Obedience as a bonus feat, but lets you swap out some of the additional boons for other Godclaw deities' base obediences if you so desire.
* One of the revelation gives you heavy armor proficiency and lets you teleport armor on/off as an immediate action.
* The capstone is a mixed bag of mini-powers, several detects at-will, armor-penalty-removal, max DEX bonus increase, 1/day crushing hand.
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Kalindlara Contributor |
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This might have been asked before, but any spells show up here?
There's a few. ^_^
Brand of conformity - target loses racial/ethnic languages
Brand of hobbling - target's speed is halved
Brand of tracking - lets you learn the creature's location 2/day
Infernal challenger - summons a barbazu for a duel
Shackle - summon restraints, either in hand or on a touched creature
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David knott 242 |
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One particularly interesting spell, Infernal Challenger, provides a moral loophole for administering the Hellknight test. That spell summons a Bearded Devil who will attempt to kill the creature designated as its challenger. The Bearded Devil will remain to do that until a condition that ends the fight is met, at which point it disappears. The summoner cannot give the devil any specific orders.
The loophole is that casting this spell is an evil act (and has the Evil descriptor) if it is used for any purpose other than administering the Hellknight test -- so a lawful good Hellknight presumably could cast this spell to administer the test.
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One particularly interesting spell, Infernal Challenger, provides a moral loophole for administering the Hellknight test. That spell summons a Bearded Devil who will attempt to kill the creature designated as its challenger. The Bearded Devil will remain to do that until a condition that ends the fight is met, at which point it disappears. The summoner cannot give the devil any specific orders.
The loophole is that casting this spell is an evil act (and has the Evil descriptor) if it is used for any purpose other than administering the Hellknight test -- so a lawful good Hellknight presumably could cast this spell to administer the test.
I'm still waiting to have this appear as a spell that some how the PCs end up triggering.
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Well, a lawful evil Hellknight NPC who can cast this spell would have no compunctions about casting this spell against a PC foe -- although, admittedly, the conditions for ending that spell would be way too easy for a party of player characters to meet unless he can also bluff them into believing that something horrible would happen to anyone who interferes with the "duel".
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I suppose somebody could rig a trap that isolates one party member from the others and then casts that spell with the victim as the designated foe. If properly designed, the only conditions for ending the spell that would still work would be the death of the bearded devil, the death of the victim, or (if the victim can somehow hold the devil at bay indefinitely) the expiration of the spell duration.
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May we get some hints as to what the Godclaw oracle mystery is like?
And does the book make it seem like an Infernal bloodline Bloodrider or Steelblood bloodrager could become a Hellknight? The whole 'rage' aspect seems like it'd stand in the way.
Bloodragers and Skalds (and even Viking Fighters) aren't restricted from being Lawful, even though Barbarians for some strange (legacy) reason are; no reason Lawful people can't have rage (they even have a spell named Order's Wrath). Actually, I'd like to see a Hellknight Shock Trooper (or Stormtrooper) archetype of Barbarian (probably some kind of hybrid of Armored Hulk and Urban Barbarian, which are not normally compatible).
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What are the Orders on the cover? I don't recognize the far left and middle, but pretty sure mid-left is Scourge, Mid-right Godclaw and far right Nail.
Is the middle Rack?
Lets see we have an going left to right, Order of the Pyre, Order of the Scourge, Order of the Rack, Order of the Godsclaw, and Order of the Nail.
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DragoDorn wrote:Has anyone heard what parts of this will be PFS legal yet?Nothing's been announced yet on that front.
Hopefully as much as possible.
The Hellknight PRC as it stands is a confused mess mishmash between Paladin and Fighter and subpar at both, only played by the faithful who love them despite their shortcomings :p
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The Hellknight PRC as it stands is a confused mess mishmash between Paladin and Fighter and subpar at both, only played by the faithful who love them despite their shortcomings :p
Expectation Management: if you don't think the Hellknight prestige class is up to snuff, this book won't do a ton to help.
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can anyone give some information on the Order of the Glyph ?
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Lord Gadigan wrote:** spoiler omitted **Why does that make me think Lyssala ?
It's much more of a reference to their (sort-of) patron Geryon, who has a similar visual motif. Given her historical obscurity, it's unlikely that they even know who Lissala is. (What Geryon knows is another matter entirely...)
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Berselius wrote:The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.Now why would they do that? There is no shortage of bad intentions. ;)
Because Devils would probably enjoy leading the righteous and just down the path of Damnation and that road probably always starts with the excuse that an evil act was "for the greater good".
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David knott 242 wrote:Because Devils would probably enjoy leading the righteous and just down the path of Damnation and that road probably always starts with the excuse that an evil act was "for the greater good".Berselius wrote:The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.Now why would they do that? There is no shortage of bad intentions. ;)
Ah, "for the greater good." The four most dangerous words in the English language.
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Berselius wrote:Ah, "for the greater good." The four most dangerous words in the English language.David knott 242 wrote:Because Devils would probably enjoy leading the righteous and just down the path of Damnation and that road probably always starts with the excuse that an evil act was "for the greater good".Berselius wrote:The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.Now why would they do that? There is no shortage of bad intentions. ;)
No, that's the four most evil words. The four most dangerous are "What does this do?"
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FedoraFerret wrote:No, that's the four most evil words. The four most dangerous are "What does this do?"Berselius wrote:Ah, "for the greater good." The four most dangerous words in the English language.David knott 242 wrote:Because Devils would probably enjoy leading the righteous and just down the path of Damnation and that road probably always starts with the excuse that an evil act was "for the greater good".Berselius wrote:The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.Now why would they do that? There is no shortage of bad intentions. ;)
I've always felt that "Here, hold my beer" was a strong contender for most dangerous.
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"There are times when the end justifies the means. But when you build an argument based on a whole series of such times, you may find that you've constructed an entire philosophy of evil."―Luke Skywalker (Legends version) during the Swarm War
"I really like beer"
- Wolverine
Berselius |
Berselius wrote:"There are times when the end justifies the means. But when you build an argument based on a whole series of such times, you may find that you've constructed an entire philosophy of evil."―Luke Skywalker (Legends version) during the Swarm War"I really like beer"- Wolverine
I believe every dwarf ever has also said that as well Gor. ;)
Berselius wrote:The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.And I'm sure the product addresses that.
Of that I have no doubt. I think Paizo has already well established a link between diabolism and the Hellknight Orders.
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Also, it may be just me, but holy hell does that armor those Hellknights are wearing on the cover look tough as nails to put on.
I wish Paizo had included the Fast-Donning Straps armor accessory (or something similar) from the Races of Stone book of Wizards of the Coast.
Maybe then armor wouldn't be such a pain to endure for Fighters.
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Also, it may be just me, but holy hell does that armor those Hellknights are wearing on the cover look tough as nails to put on.
I wish Paizo had included the Fast-Donning Straps armor accessory (or something similar) from the Races of Stone book of Wizards of the Coast.
Maybe then armor wouldn't be such a pain to endure for Fighters.
Armor Training (Ex): Starting at 3rd level, a fighter learns to be more maneuverable while wearing armor. Whenever he is wearing armor, he reduces the armor check penalty by 1 (to a minimum of 0) and increases the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor by 1. Every four levels thereafter (7th, 11th, and 15th), these bonuses increase by +1 each time, to a maximum –4 reduction of the armor check penalty and a +4 increase of the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed.
In addition, a fighter can also move at his normal speed while wearing medium armor. At 7th level, a fighter can move at his normal speed while wearing heavy armor.
Also, Armor Master's Handbook has the Quick Donning advanced armor training feature, whereas you can swap out your -1 ACP + Max Dex for ability to don and discard armor faster and with a chance for no penalties at all.