
FallenDabus |
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If Todd keeps putting out proteans in here like this, I'm going to have to shift my purchasing priorities around.
If Todd every makes the Storyhour into an adventure path, I'll go bankrupt. Until then, I'll just continue with my usual strategies of buying everything he writes.

KaiserBruno |
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Now if only we could get more Inevitables and Aeons...
Iron Gods gave us an inevitable and the Occult Bestiary gave us an aeon.
But I do agree. The law/chaos axis line outsider groups need some more support. Though I think the new proteans plus the new protean planetouched in Distant Shores are a sign that Paizo's attention has at least diverted towards them.
Here's hoping to a new singing chaos snake filled future at any rate!

KaiserBruno |
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KaiserBruno wrote:If Todd keeps putting out proteans in here like this, I'm going to have to shift my purchasing priorities around.If Todd every makes the Storyhour into an adventure path, I'll go bankrupt. Until then, I'll just continue with my usual strategies of buying everything he writes.
Im still waiting for Paizo to finally get around to getting him to do a Great Beyond Hardcover.
Or a Book of the Damned style book for the proteans.
Or hell anything. Everything this man puts out is golden.

Barachiel Shina |
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Barachiel Shina wrote:Now if only we could get more Inevitables and Aeons...Iron Gods gave us an inevitable and the Occult Bestiary gave us an aeon.
But I do agree. The law/chaos axis line outsider groups need some more support. Though I think the new proteans plus the new protean planetouched in Distant Shores are a sign that Paizo's attention has at least diverted towards them.
Here's hoping to a new singing chaos snake filled future at any rate!
They really do. I have been GMing long enough to be rather tired of the Demon/Devil trope. It's as bad as WotC and their Drow. Something new and fresh is needed and I see that potential in the Law/Chaos type enemies. I can do so much with them, but I lack many of them to toy a real campaign with

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Still nobody willing to share the monsters with us unlucky few? :-p
Sorry, between work and home, I still haven't had time even to read my whole PDF.
Procyal Agathion - CR 8 raccoon Agathion, focused on keeping the balance between society and the individual.
Morgodea - CR 4 fey focused on swarms and vermin.
Pelagastr Protean - CR 8, focused on ringing chaos to the inhabitants of the mortal realm, while most Proteans focus on chaotic change of the physical realm.
Tenome - CR 4 monstrous humanoid - bizarre... thing with its eyes in its hands, can liquify a target's bones and drink them out of a body if it establishes a pin.

Myth Lord |
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Thanks!
Morgodae sounds awesome, but should have been higher CR, much like the vermin lord.

Fourshadow |

Myth Lord wrote:Still nobody willing to share the monsters with us unlucky few? :-pSorry, between work and home, I still haven't had time even to read my whole PDF.
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Very cool! I am loving this AP and I don't even own it yet! Will eventually have to get the complete set. Fortunately, my players are mired down in The Emerald Spire, so I can just enjoy this AP when I get the cash to own it...or when Christmas comes around, whichever happens first.

Generic Villain |
Good lord does the city of Vyre have some powerful occupants. In the Notable NPCs section we have, from weakest to strongest, a...
*Female Halfling Swashbuckler 16
*Female Tiefling Aristocrat 2/Witch 17
*Female Lunar Naga Sorcerer 13
*Male Human Rogue 3/Cleric of Norgorber 17 (whose illustration screams magnificent bastard)
*Female Jorogumo Rogue 10 (that's a challenge rating of 22 right there)
I wonder what made all these luminaries settle in Vyre? Each one (swashbuckler aside) could probably conquer a small nation, Razmir style, without too much trouble.
Also cool that only the cleric is a man. Ladies got this place under control.

Evil Midnight Lurker |

...aren't invisible stalkers intelligent and capable of speech?
Shouldn't eating them be a pretty darn evil act, and thus potentially cause not just diplomatic failure but complete destruction of the banquet itself at the hands of at least some characters? I can see a paladin refusing to allow the dish to be served to anyone.
EDIT: Int 14, alignment Neutral, speaks Auran and Common. Yeah, there's a lot of people I've gamed with, not to mention myself, who would just plain no longer want Manticce's support at that point.

Generic Villain |
...aren't invisible stalkers intelligent and capable of speech?
Shouldn't eating them be a pretty darn evil act, and thus potentially cause not just diplomatic failure but complete destruction of the banquet itself at the hands of at least some characters? I can see a paladin refusing to allow the dish to be served to anyone.
EDIT: Int 14, alignment Neutral, speaks Auran and Common. Yeah, there's a lot of people I've gamed with, not to mention myself, who would just plain no longer want Manticce's support at that point.
It's no more evil than, say, skinning a dragon and using its scales for armor. Which is to say... ambiguously so? The hostess also doesn't outright say what's on the plate, though I imagine PCs would figure out pretty quickly. Looks like an opportunity for roleplaying to me.

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Her divine realm is called Voiporl. It's a massive cavern filled with a desert of violet sand; holes rent in its ceiling show alien constellations dancing about. Scattered around it are great onion-domed-temples, massive pillars, and jungle-sized gardens. It occupies a space between Phlegethon and Stygia and contains giant serpents, dragonflies, desert witches, medusas, and undead.

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Good lord does the city of Vyre have some powerful occupants. In the Notable NPCs section we have, from weakest to strongest, a...
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I wonder what made all these luminaries settle in Vyre? Each one (swashbuckler aside) could probably conquer a small nation, Razmir style, without too much trouble.
Also cool that only the cleric is a man. Ladies got this place under control.
Thing is, they aren't interested in conquering nations. They're pretty comfortable where they are. As for why they're so powerful... MAJOR SPOILERS...

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...aren't invisible stalkers intelligent and capable of speech?
Shouldn't eating them be a pretty darn evil act, and thus potentially cause not just diplomatic failure but complete destruction of the banquet itself at the hands of at least some characters? I can see a paladin refusing to allow the dish to be served to anyone.
EDIT: Int 14, alignment Neutral, speaks Auran and Common. Yeah, there's a lot of people I've gamed with, not to mention myself, who would just plain no longer want Manticce's support at that point.
Yup; the idea of eating invisible stalker is FULLY INTENDED to make folks a little squeamish if they think about it. It's not entirely an evil act (not much more so than using dragon parts to make armor as someone mentioned above), but it's pretty close. I likely wouldn't make a paladin fall from grace for eating the stuff, as long as the paladin was squeamish and felt guilty about it in the end. It's also a great example of why lawful characters aren't the best choice for Hell's Rebels... something I've been saying from before day one.
That all said... a character who makes a scene or doesn't eat the invisible feast doesn't automatically screw things up for the whole party... but that does make the other courses more important.
If it were an easy and pleasant and obvious choice to make an alliance with Manticce... it wouldn't be a challenge and wouldn't be something that required diplomacy and so on.

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I am confused...
How do you EAT an Invisible Stalker? They have organs? Substance? They're just air that likes to coalesce together and pound your brains out...right?
And it's hard to be disgusted by something you eat if you can't even see what it is you're eating...being invisible and all.
They have bodies. They're not incorporeal. There's SOMETHING there. See the adventure for a description.

RuyanVe |

I am confused...
How do you EAT an Invisible Stalker? They have organs? Substance? They're just air that likes to coalesce together and pound your brains out...right?
And it's hard to be disgusted by something you eat if you can't even see what it is you're eating...being invisible and all.
Just imagine Labskaus.
Enjoy your meal!
Ruyan.

Axial |

So, the part of the adventure which concerns influencing the noble houses makes it clear that you can't recruit the pro-Thrune houses into joining the rebellion.

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The chronicle sheet for this part has a boon that says "Manticce Kaleekii: The Queen of Delights is a rich and influential leader in Vyre. Check one Loyalty box, and increase this Chronicle sheet’s gold reward to 19,000 gp (9,500 gp for slow experience progression)."
But the reward for normal progression is 27.766 gp should one of those numbers be different?