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I find it irksome that this book is the first one that we won't have a free digital copy of... The last couple Varian and Radovan books that came out, I read the digital version as soon as it was available, because I didn't want to wait for the print version!
You can always just not subscribe and get the digital copies from B&N or Amazon like I do.

Itchy |

I'm sorry so is digital copies not going to be available here at all? Only on 3rd party sites? That will be nice on GenCon since my phone won't let me get the epub from here but kinda annoys me for every other one. Stupid semi-ocd now all the books wont be in the same program.
That is my understanding. The digital books will only be sold through 3rd party vendors and will not be available at Paizo.com.

Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |

*Sigh* No PDF format anymore... I guess I'm out. Being blind is a real drag sometimes. Hopefully it will come out in audio, although I'm certainly not counting on it.
I realize that what is practical is not always what exists in reality, but it should be easier to design a screen-reader to read an ePub document than a PDF.
If you have an Apple device, the built-in VoiceOver screen reader should be able to read books from the iBookstore or downloaded ePubs. What kind of platform are you using?

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Official release date from TOR still appears to be June 2, so I don't think you'll see it in Germany until then.
I don´t know - i received the april stuff 8 days before street date.
Sometimes i even get it 10 days before and sometimes 14 days days later than street date.
It depends on shipping issues i think.

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*Sigh* No PDF format anymore... I guess I'm out. Being blind is a real drag sometimes. Hopefully it will come out in audio, although I'm certainly not counting on it.
Hey Valantrix! Sutter is out today, but I'll point him at this thread when he's back in the office and maybe he can shed more light on the topic. In the meantime, I did a web search to see if Tor had any plans for an audio recording of this book, and they did solicit an audiobook version of it along with the print and digital formats, so it looks like there will be one. Their site doesn't mention a time frame for release, nor if other titles will have similar treatment, but it does look like this book, at least, will be released as an audiobook. Again, Sutter can likely provide more information when he gets back in the office.

Valantrix1 |

Valantrix1 wrote:*Sigh* No PDF format anymore... I guess I'm out. Being blind is a real drag sometimes. Hopefully it will come out in audio, although I'm certainly not counting on it.Hey Valantrix! Sutter is out today, but I'll point him at this thread when he's back in the office and maybe he can shed more light on the topic. In the meantime, I did a web search to see if Tor had any plans for an audio recording of this book, and they did solicit an audiobook version of it along with the print and digital formats, so it looks like there will be one. Their site doesn't mention a time frame for release, nor if other titles will have similar treatment, but it does look like this book, at least, will be released as an audiobook. Again, Sutter can likely provide more information when he gets back in the office.
Thanks Mark! This is why I love you guys!

Baroth |

James, are there any plans for subscribers to somehow receive the pdf or ebook?
I mean what you are basically tell me, as a subscriber, is that you have remodeled the tales line: It will have a new look, it will have the same word count (as Dave said above), it will not have the free digital copy, but still you will have to pay more. Correct me if I am wrong but this sounds like a really bad deal, especially for people from overseas.
What I really dislike here is that you announced the deal with TorBooks and said there will be better possibilities with digital formats and the next thing you do is to cut the digital version out of the subscription. Granted it is my fault to not read the next couple of lines in the mail as I simply have assumed that the additional possibilities in digital versions do NOT result in the removal of the digital copy. Nevertheless, I am disappointed and this may very well be the first subscription I have to cancel permanently, albeit with a heavy heart.
Edit: Never mind, I just saw the thread in the tales forum about it. Apparently, the answer is no. You guys are more concerned about reaching a bigger audience than the existing subscribers.

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All I can add to what Mark said is that big things are coming, and soon. Please stand by. :)
Audio versions of Dave Gross novels - i´ll buy that!
But i don´t think i´ll buy every Pathfinder Tales after Lord of Runes.
Liar´s Blade wasn´t that good but i´ll give Liar´s Island a chance because the other two "Reign" novels were pretty good.
"Beyond the Pool of Stars" is also a must buy for me.
The story of "Bloodbound" has been done a dozen times - from Barbara Hambley´s "Those who hunt the Night" to the Bloodborn and Bloodforged novels from Warhammer BUT i´ll give it a try because it´s from a good writer and takes place in Ustalav... ;-)

John Kretzer |

Just got my copy today...have not read it yet...I just got it 5 min ago I am not that fast of a reader...
The cover is great the print is easy to read...and the map is very well done.
I know I am a oddity in that I don't read much in electronic formats but to me the subscription is definitely worth the upgrade in the quality of the book.

Ed Reppert |

I've started it. Looks good so far. I still have to go back and read the last two books (Queen of Thorns, KIng of Chaos I think). There's a couple spoilers for those in this book if you haven't read the earlier ones.

Morbus Iff |

Received mine today. I _hate_ the new size. It is the difference between fitting them on my mass-media paperback shelves (where all the rest of my nearly 20 Pathfinder novels are) and having to be moved into an _entirely different room with bigger shelves_. If I want to keep the two different formats all together, I'm gonna have to move everything all around.
Annoying.
Not annoying enough to unsubscribe, mind you, but enough to sully the experience.
Will Paizo be selling non-Kindle versions of the ebooks? I'd prefer to keep all my notes, highlights, and annotations (and, again, along with all the other books) in my current ereader (iBooks) over splitting them (like shelves, but far more difficult to move) between iBooks and Kindle.

Itchy |

Mark Moreland wrote:Valantrix1 wrote:*Sigh* No PDF format anymore... I guess I'm out. Being blind is a real drag sometimes. Hopefully it will come out in audio, although I'm certainly not counting on it.Hey Valantrix! Sutter is out today, but I'll point him at this thread when he's back in the office and maybe he can shed more light on the topic. In the meantime, I did a web search to see if Tor had any plans for an audio recording of this book, and they did solicit an audiobook version of it along with the print and digital formats, so it looks like there will be one. Their site doesn't mention a time frame for release, nor if other titles will have similar treatment, but it does look like this book, at least, will be released as an audiobook. Again, Sutter can likely provide more information when he gets back in the office.Thanks Mark! This is why I love you guys!
Valantrix, it looks like you can get a pdf version through Google play.

Protoman |

Oh good. People have started reading it so I can feel safe talking about it.
But everything else? HOT DAMN! G#* d+#n orcs! Badass grey maidens! Happy birthday, Varian! Shoanti druid lady was fantastic! Brothers of the Seal seemed random but nice lil Kaer Maga flavour. Banner-fighting thief/mage was interesting and wouldn't mind seeing/learning more of her. The epilogue between the boys was sweet and awwww-worthy.
I don't know if it's the last adventure with the boys (I sure as hell hope not) but Lord of Runes would be a nice way to do it.

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In this post I list the places I've found where it's advertised to be released as an ebook on June 2. A couple of them indicate DRM-free. Google Play doesn't say the format, but a link from the page suggests that all of their ebooks are both epub and PDF.

Protoman |

Thanks for the kind words, Protoman. I'll just mention, all casual like, that it appears the reviews page is now open.
I take the opposite of offense from comparisons to Moffat's work, although I'm more a fan of Jekyll than of Who. You have seen Jekyll, haven't you?
After the website ATE the first attempt. I put up a more elaborated review up!
And unfortunatly, I haven't seen Jekyll.

Protoman |

Protoman wrote:And unfortunatly, I haven't seen Jekyll.It's on Netflix!
Not in Canada! Haha lame excuse for this day and age I know, but I'll have to look into it after this weekend. Still catching up on Penny Dreadful and planning on watching "period" movies for ideas for an Atomic Robo RPG game.

Ed Reppert |

Arni is definitely cool.
Dave, what are these "house drakes"? I look up "drake" in the bestiaries, and those are all large two-legged evil dragon kin. Whatever "house drakes" are, they aren't those things, I'm thinking.
Not finished the book yet, but I'm close. I'm getting the impression that Varian is
Am I close?

Ernest Mueller |
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Received mine today. I _hate_ the new size. It is the difference between fitting them on my mass-media paperback shelves (where all the rest of my nearly 20 Pathfinder novels are) and having to be moved into an _entirely different room with bigger shelves_. If I want to keep the two different formats all together, I'm gonna have to move everything all around.
Annoying.
Not annoying enough to unsubscribe, mind you, but enough to sully the experience.
Agreed but for different reasons. I didn't know this change was coming, and when I opened up my box I was like "what, is this now in large print for Grandma?" It looks wonky. I went and compared it to a bunch of other books I have of the same size (arbitrary pulls from the top of my to-read pile - Tim Butcher's Blood River, Philip Keith's Blackhorse Riders, P.G. Wodehouse's Leave it to Psmith) and I realized why - it hasn't been redesigned right for the new size factor, both on the cover and in the interior. The new size is fine in and of itself, and I have probably a full bookshelf of books with that exact size factor, but there's a design problem that makes it look like a kid in ill-fitting clothes.
On the cover, the logo is oddly placed (low) and all the fonts aren't just larger, but seem to be stretched vertically to try to use more of the space. The back cover, without more content, seems to be making the odd choice to put the UPC code in a prominent location to burn real estate. In the interior, the text is leaving a lot of the page blank especially at the bottom.
The existing design is fine for mass market paperbacks but it doesn't work "just bigger" for the new format. It makes it look clumsy and amateurish. It's like the cover expected to be a centimeter shorter at the top and the interior expected to be a centimeter shorter at the bottom. I strongly suggest going and pulling a bunch of books of that size factor and comparing how they do front and back covers and their internal pages.
The Wodehouse book is a good compare because it uses a front to back art piece like PFT does, but even with that on the back they put in an artist bio, a pull quote, etc. to make use of the real estate. It also comes in at 293 pages for what I'm betting is the exact same word count by better use of interior space.
Love you guys, love all (well, most, not a fan of the Greenwood one) the Pathfinder Tales novel, so this is loving constructive criticism - the design doesn't look comparable to other books of this size factor, and needs significant tweaking so it can look like "NYT bestseller" and not "self published like you see at a con" alongside other titles at the bookstore.

Ed Reppert |

The house drakes are pseudodragons.
I presume this is one of those cases where Paizo can't use the original name in the fiction?
Ah! Yeah, that makes sense, thanks.
I don't know why they wouldn't be able to use it. They used it in the Bestiary. Maybe just artistic license on the author's part.