Darkrose50 |
How many of each figure do you get, on average, in a case of Rusty Dragon Inn?
How does that break down in a case?
**********Below is my guess**********
[Part 1]
-----Large-----
08 Rare / Large [~1 of each]
24 Uncommon / Large [~3 of each]
32 Total Large per case
[Part 2]
-----Rare-----
08 Rare / Large [~1 of each]
11 Rare / Medium & Small [~1 of Each]
19 Total Rare per case
-----Uncommon-----
24 Uncommon / Large [~3 of each]
33 Uncommon / Medium & Small [~3 of each]
57 Total Uncommon per case
-----Common-----
52 Common / Medium & Small [~4 of each]
52 Total Common per case
[Part 3]
-----Total-----
19 Total Rare per case [~1 of each]
57 Total Uncommon per case [~3 of each]
52 Total Common per case [~4 of each]
128 Total per case
**********Above is my guess**********
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Marco Massoudi |
How many of each figure do you get, on average, in a case of Rusty Dragon Inn?
How does that break down in a case?
**********Below is my guess**********
[Part 1]
-----Large-----
08 Rare / Large [~1 of each]
24 Uncommon / Large [~3 of each]
32 Total Large per case[Part 2]
-----Rare-----
08 Rare / Large [~1 of each]
11 Rare / Medium & Small [~1 of Each]
19 Total Rare per case-----Uncommon-----
24 Uncommon / Large [~3 of each]
33 Uncommon / Medium & Small [~3 of each]
57 Total Uncommon per case-----Common-----
52 Common / Medium & Small [~4 of each]
52 Total Common per case[Part 3]
-----Total-----
19 Total Rare per case [~1 of each]
57 Total Uncommon per case [~3 of each]
52 Total Common per case [~4 of each]
128 Total per case**********Above is my guess**********
Almost.
You get 20 rares per case:One of #33-#44 (12 total) and one of each dressing piece plus one additional piece of two different dressings (8 total).
That accounts for 6 of 32 larges and leaves 26 uncommon larges.
There are 8 different large uncommons.
You get 4 of some, 3 of others and 2 of the rest.
That still leaves 82 small and medium minis.
There are 13 different common minis and 19 different uncommons (8 of them large, 11 small and medium).
You should get about 4 of most commons (5 of some, 3 of a few) for about 52 total.
That leaves about 30 uncommon (small and medium) minis.
You should get about 3 of each (2 of some).
20 Rares
56 Uncommons (26 of them large)
52 Commons
So you were pretty close.
Darkrose50 |
Rusty Dragon Inn Figure Random Distribution
[~4.00 of each of 13 = 52.00] Common / Medium & Small
[~2.73 of each of 11 = 30.03] Uncommon / Medium & Small
[~3.25 of each of 08 = 26.00] Uncommon / Large
[~1.00 of each of 08 = 08.00] Rare / Medium & Small
[~1.00 of each of 04 = 04.00] Rare / Large
[~1.33 of each of 06 = 08.00] Rare / Dungeon Dressing
[~1.00 of each of 01 = 01.00] Rare / Replacement Feiya
[~1.00 of each of 01 = 01.00] Rare / Replacement King Irovetti
056 Uncommon
052 Common
020 Rare
002 Special Rare Replacement
130 Total
Thank you for your help. My logins at work needed to be corrected, so I had to do something to pass the time while I wait, and this puzzle was one such thing I used to pass the time.
Sometimes people become resentful of people that enjoy buying, selling, and trading trading things they find fun, such as game items.
So before I ramble on my goals are to: (a) have fun, (b) break even, (c) obtain miniatures for playing with, and (d) trade miniatures online and at local shops around Chicago, and (e) to gain a variety of miniatures from different sets.
I will need to learn where to trade miniatures. There are local game shops to visit (Games-Plus being a huge and popular local shop), but also I need to find a good webpage or two in order to do some trading.
I enjoy buying, selling, and trading things for fun (resource management, like playing a cleric). My gaming group would like some new miniatures, and I thought that I would have plenty of time to invest in buying some miniatures, sorting them, listing them on eBay, and trading them at local shops. The goal would be to have fun trading, help my friends get some new miniatures, break even so my wife did not take offence, and to see my enemies driven before me. The job seems to be extended, but I am yet exited about selling, and trading some miniatures none-the-less.
I ordered 10 cases, 10 Inns, and 10 Beds. This should be a fun experiment at playing merchant.
I also built an inventory spreadsheet, and researched the apparent popularity of each figure on Miniature Market, Troll & Toad, and Cool Stuff Inc. I need to look at eBay at home at it is blocked at work.
If anyone know more places to look for the trade value of each figure, then please let me know.
This far I have this (likely flawed) list of trade value:
GHOUL CULTIST (2) Common Medium $2.91
GHOUL HUNTSMAN (3) Common Medium $2.99
FARMER (4) Common Medium $3.33
VAMPIRE SPAWN (5) Common Medium $3.16
SERVING GIRL (6) Common Medium $3.33
BUNNYIP (7) Common Medium $2.49
PIOUS GUARD (8) Common Medium $3.49
CUTPURSE (9) Common Medium $3.08
GUARD (10) Common Medium $3.99
DANCING GIRL (11) Common Medium $5.33
BUGBEAR MYSTIC (12) Common Medium $2.99
BUGBEAR LURKER (13) Common Medium $2.91
GNOME WIZARD (14) Uncommon Small $3.74
KOBOLD TRAPMAKER (15) Uncommon Small $3.24
DWARF BARD (16) Uncommon Medium $4.16
DWARF WIZARD (17) Uncommon Medium $3.41
ARISTOCRAT (18) Uncommon Medium $3.99
GHOUL MONARCH (19) Uncommon Medium $4.16
GRACEFUL SLAYER (20) Uncommon Medium $4.08
RIDING DOG (21) Uncommon Medium $4.66
MERCHANT (22) Uncommon Medium $5.16
BUGBEAR TYRANT (23) Uncommon Medium $4.49
CITY WATCH COMMANDER (24) Uncommon $4.16
RIDING HORSE (25) Uncommon Large $5.16
DRAFT HORSE (26) Uncommon Large $5.83
KIRRIX (27) Uncommon Large $3.99
FROST GIANT ICE MAGE (28) Uncommon Large $5.16
BUGBEAR FLESH GLUTTON (29) Uncommon Large $3.66
FLESH GOLEM (30) Uncommon Large $4.49
GORGON (31) Uncommon Large $3.91
BEAKY (32) Uncommon Large $4.49
HALF-ELF BARD (33) Rare Medium $16.33
HALF-ELF ENCHANTER (34) Rare Medium $13.99
ALLEVRAH, ELF GENERAL (35) Rare Medium $16.66
GOBLIN VULTURE PILOT (36) Rare Medium $14.33
GHOUL CHAMPION (37) Rare Medium $15.66
BARTENDER (38) Rare Medium $16.66
RANZAK (39) Rare Small $13.33
CAYDEN CAILEN (40) Rare Medium $14.99
SILVER DRAGON (41) Rare Large $26.66
QUIVERING CUBE (42) Rare Large $26.33
ZILVAZARAAT (43) Rare Large $11.16
ORC RIDER ON DIRE WOLF (44) Rare Large $18.66
CRATE* (--) DD Medium $7.99
BARREL* (--) DD Medium $9.66
TABLE* (--) DD Medium $15.66
BED* (--) DD Large $11.66
CART* (--) DD Large $18.33
WAGON* (--) DD Large $17.33
Feiya Replacement Special $16.66
King Irovetti Replacement $10.99
The following seem to be quite popular (based on how many are in stock at Miniature Market):
FARMER (4)
SERVING GIRL (6)
CUTPURSE (9)
GUARD (10)
DANCING GIRL (11)
-----Uncommon-----
GNOME WIZARD (14)
DWARF BARD (16)
ARISTOCRAT (18)
RIDING DOG (21)
MERCHANT (22)
BUGBEAR TYRANT (23)
CITY WATCH COMMANDER (24)
RIDING HORSE (25)
DRAFT HORSE (26)
-----Rare-----
HALF-ELF BARD (33)
HALF-ELF ENCHANTER (34)
ALLEVRAH, ELF GENERAL (35)
GOBLIN VULTURE PILOT (36)
GHOUL CHAMPION (37)
BARTENDER (38)
RANZAK (39)
CAYDEN CAILEN (40)
SILVER DRAGON (41)
QUIVERING CUBE (42)
ZILVAZARAAT (43)
ORC RIDER ON DIRE WOLF (44)
BARREL* (--)
CRATE* (--)
TABLE* (--)
BED* (--)
CART* (--)
WAGON* (--)
I think perhaps the dragon is overpriced, priced for the long haul, or perhaps there are lots of dragons out there . . . as there are many more of this rare than the other rares.
The barrel is popular, but less popular than the other dungeon dressings . . . I do not understand it . . . perhaps their were more of them made somehow.
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Based on how many of the commoner types of miniatures are sold out (even the common miniatures, and I think this is quite telling) there seems to be a hunger for normal people and objects like furniture, and dungeon dressing.
Perhaps a set based around townsfolk, and terrain items (stalls, crates, horse tying post, and whatnot) for the town would be popular.
A blacksmith miniature, and an anvil miniature.
Merchants, some stalls, and a peddler cart.
A huntsman, and hunting dogs . . . different working dogs . . . bullmastiff, german shepherd, dachshund, and bird(s) or prey (perhaps the bird on the huntsmans arm).
The Zombicide dogs sold out fast when they were first introduced, and the $20 set was selling for ~$35 for a while there . . . unpainted. You guys should definitely make some dogs.
Animals to hunt (?) . . . boar, fox, dear, rabbit, moose.
Trees and bushes (trees were / are quite popular from the Heroscape line).
Shepherd, sheep, and sheepdog.
Cow and milkmaid.
Different working people and things they interact with: washbasin, fish drying rack.
A fire, bedroll(s), tent(s)?
A raft.
Darkrose50 |
If you're looking for an official answer... WizKids doesn't share that kind of breakdown. (But I can say that the dungeon dressing is technically its own rarity, which is roughly equivalent to rare in that you will generally get 1–2 of each per case.)
I think some trees and some dogs would be quite popular.
As I mentioned above the Heroscape Trees were and are quite popular. Encounters around trees are quite common. I can see people wanting lots of trees and bushes of various types.
As I mentioned above the Zombicide dogs were/are quite popular ($20 retail price and were selling on eBay for ~$35 for a while). I think a lack of painted miniature dogs is an incentive to make some.
If the low price of oil is making plastic cheaper, then perhaps now is the time to make and stock up on larger items like trees.
RyanH |
Vic Wertz wrote:If you're looking for an official answer... WizKids doesn't share that kind of breakdown. (But I can say that the dungeon dressing is technically its own rarity, which is roughly equivalent to rare in that you will generally get 1–2 of each per case.)I think some trees and some dogs would be quite popular.
As I mentioned above the Heroscape Trees were and are quite popular. Encounters around trees are quite common. I can see people wanting lots of trees and bushes of various types.
As I mentioned above the Zombicide dogs were/are quite popular ($20 retail price and were selling on eBay for ~$35 for a while). I think a lack of painted miniature dogs is an incentive to make some.
If the low price of oil is making plastic cheaper, then perhaps now is the time to make and stock up on larger items like trees.
I don't know how cost-effective trees would be given the options that already exist. With trees you need quite a few, and they're big. You simply can't beat the price of something like these trees crafting and hobby stores have them, they look nice, and you can find the sizes and types you want. I just buy a little tacky putty to keep them fixed in place ... quick little forest that looks great!
Darkrose50 |
RyanH wrote:The Rusty Dragon in introduces 51 figures... does that include the Bar, or is it 52 with the bar?Never mind, duh, I just looked at the singles page ... and it looks like 53 minis, but the product page says 51, so that's odd.
50 minis + bar + 2 special repaints of fixed sculpts that had messed up faces that resulting in sub-par paint jobs (1/each per case).
RyanH |
RyanH wrote:50 minis + bar + 2 special repaints of fixed sculpts that had messed up faces that resulting in sub-par paint jobs (1/each per case).RyanH wrote:The Rusty Dragon in introduces 51 figures... does that include the Bar, or is it 52 with the bar?Never mind, duh, I just looked at the singles page ... and it looks like 53 minis, but the product page says 51, so that's odd.
Thanks!
Marco Massoudi |
Darkrose50 wrote:Thanks!RyanH wrote:50 minis + bar + 2 special repaints of fixed sculpts that had messed up faces that resulting in sub-par paint jobs (1/each per case).RyanH wrote:The Rusty Dragon in introduces 51 figures... does that include the Bar, or is it 52 with the bar?Never mind, duh, I just looked at the singles page ... and it looks like 53 minis, but the product page says 51, so that's odd.
The miniatures are numbered 1-44.
The bar is the unnumbered 45.There are 6 unnumbered dressing pieces.
There are repainted King Irovetti and Feiya minis from the "Legends of Golarion" and "Reign of Winter sets.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
A couple notes:
1. I can confirm that this set is doing well. But even if WizKids has sold out (which I am not able to confirm or deny), that doesn't mean that all of the distributors they sell to have necessarily sold out, so retailers may still be able to buy some.
2. We have talked about the possibility of reprints with WizKids in general terms, but if they have committed to a reprint for this set, I haven't heard it yet. (That doesn't mean it's impossible.)
Marco Massoudi |
A couple notes:
1. I can confirm that this set is doing well. But even if WizKids has sold out (which I am not able to confirm or deny), that doesn't mean that all of the distributors they sell to have necessarily sold out, so retailers may still be able to buy some.
2. We have talked about the possibility of reprints with WizKids in general terms, but if they have committed to a reprint for this set, I haven't heard it yet. (That doesn't mean it's impossible.)
1. You are most probably right that some distributors have sold out and others have not.
2. My local german dealer has very good connections all over europe, so if he tells me he can't get any more boosters, bricks or cases till the reprint in may, i believe him, as he has been right 90%+ in the past.
The fact that this set sells so good is great. The quality of the faces went up considerably and that seems to have a direct impact on sales.
I feel happy that the future of the line seems to be assured and remains in the capable hands of Eric Mona (and all others involved) who worked hard to ensure this.
Thank you!
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
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Marco,
I have verified with WizKids that they have not announced a reprint of this set. (To give you an idea of how unlikely reprints are with them, in the last six years, they have only reprinted one thing: their Dice Masters launch, where the initial supply was vastly lower than the demand.)
Marco Massoudi |
Marco,
I have verified with WizKids that they have not announced a reprint of this set. (To give you an idea of how unlikely reprints are with them, in the last six years, they have only reprinted one thing: their Dice Masters launch, where the initial supply was vastly lower than the demand.)
Thank you for asking WizKids and letting me/us know, Vic.
I will talk to my dealer about this.Do you know if WizKids sold out of the set?
Thx
Marco
Cpt_kirstov |
Wizkids has always been very conscious of how reprints will affect new stock, One of the Early DC Heroclix sets sold out in under a month, and had multiple figures going for over $100 each, and was not reprinted, because said reprint run would have come out around the same time as the next Marvel heroclix set. (At least that was the reason the heroclix community was given) I could see something similar here.
LadyIrithyl |
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I finally got this set. Needed to order it online, as my local shop was unable to get it in stock as their distributor hasn't had any new pathfinder miniatures come in for months. So I;m still out of luck for Iconics 4,5 and 6 :(
Anyway, the figures are great overall. And I'm really happy with the two replacement figures, save for the fact that they are both bug-eyed! It's like the painter went overboard making sure eyes were on these figures. But at least Feiya doesn't have a melted face so if I want repaint the eyes I at least can do so.
I just have to say that I love this set and see why it's popular. I actually think that my favorite miniature is Beaky. He is one of the best looking owlbear miniatures I have seen and I'm glad I got four of him so I can use him in some great encounters.
Already had a fun scenario play out with my husband as we were unpacking the set.
Quivering cube slides up to the bar: "I'll have a human please"
Drunken farmer sitting beside the cube: "If it was that easy, I'd already have a wife!"
Steve Geddes |
Laurial |
Picked up a brick + one booster yesterday. Fantastic job on all the humanoid figures this time. All the characters were very evocative and fun. I didn't catch any with bendy sword syndrome. All the figures had great details. I was a little bummed in that one of my boxes was a complete dupe of the other (the riding horse, bugbear mystic, dwarf bard, and barrel). But what can you do. I ended up with 3 dwarf bards, two dancing girls, a serving girl, the draft horse, wagon, silver dragon, owlbear/beaky, kobold devilspeaker, kobold trapmaker, farmer, ghoul huntsman, ghoul monarch, two bunyips, vampire spawn, two pious guards, guard, dwarf wizard, aristocrat, riding dog, bugbear tyrant, frost giant ice mage, bugbear flesh glutton, flesh golem, Ranzak, and Cayden Cailen.
Cpt_kirstov |
Are you guys considering another printing of this so that new subscribers can start with this set?
This is a Wizkids product not a Paizo one, so paizo has no control over if a new printing. Historically, I don't think wizkidz have ever done a second press of a set since they have been owned by NECA .
Steve Geddes |
It's also not yet out of print, it's just that Paizo either reduced the number of cases they ordered this time around or they sold more than usual (or both).
Noble Knight Games only just sold out and they say they've got more on order (although I don't always trust those "more on the way" listings).
Sara Marie Customer Service Manager |
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We've just finished freeing up some stock of the Rusty Dragon Inn Cases that were in stuck orders. If you add the case to your cart as a regular order, you can add the case premium, the Rusty Dragon Inn Bar, for $49.99. If you start a subscription this will happen automagically and you will receive a 75% discount on the case premium in addition to the subscription discount on the case.
Kalindlara Contributor |
Cpt_kirstov |
As a store, opening a pack gets you about $20-25 worth of minis on average. Setting up product pages for 45 new products takes time costing wages, for not much additional gain over a sealed pack. it also takes additional time fore the warehouse crew to find the correct mini, and additional issues with minis breaking when in the warehouse.