Announced for July!
Another Thursty adventure - I can't wait!
My two cents, I believe the two old nemeses will be:
No way you'd face the actual recurring villains in a 3-7, right?
I sure hope not! But who knows, maybe it's a suicide mission?
I'll be at PaizoCon this year, so swing by to punch me in person.
ISWYDT.
Now available!
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That's odd. I'm guessing all those scenarios where not supposed to have been released yet?
I will not run them early, I honestly just saw new stuff and grabbed it, assuming it was just coming out. I can't see the release dates, but when does Assault on the Wound become good to go?
Thank you for understanding. July 4th is a good date for the first time it can be run.
Huzzah, it's back up again!This scenario is the suq. It haz no llamas in it ;-)
Now Mike, it's not Thursty's fault that we switched the giant llamas for demons. That's just rubbing a salt on the wound.
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Now Mike, it's not Thursty's fault that we switched the giant llamas for demons. That's just rubbing a salt on the wound.Huzzah, it's back up again!This scenario is the suq. It haz no llamas in it ;-)
There is no excuse for not including atl east one llama that yells, "CCCAAARRRRLLLLLL" and enjoys the taste of hands.
I guess I really need to include a millipede on the Moonscar...
Only if you want to play the part of Abbott.
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I truly enjoyed the mass combat. It's kind of confusing at the beginning. I would love to see a few of these each season. Sure it takes away from roleplaying but that's ok, having something change every once and awhile is a good thing. Only thing I could ask for is to have have a super easy gimp encounter before the first real bad so how its supposed work can be visualized.
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I spotted that there is a formatting typo on the chronicle; is the PDF expected to be updated in the next week or two? Or should we work with it as it is now?
Is there any chance of getting an easily-printable version of the first map with only the player-friendly markings and labels, i.e. one that can be blown up to ~A2 size?
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The tier is off. Two of the armies come from 7-11 missions and one other from 5-9. Even if all of the others were 1-5, the chances of still having your character in 3-7 after all this time is fairly remote. Also not sure why junior Pathfinders would be leading the charge... Oh. Wait a minute, what was the alignment of the Ten?
I guess I will just have to go with Plan A and use my armies to conquer Absalom now that I'm out of tier.
Also, Marcos Farabellus explains why there aren't a lot of high-level Pathfinders on hand to lead the armies when he gives his mission briefing.
Hope that helps.
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I see a lot of polarized reviews, it averages out to 3, but most of the reviews are 1 or 5, and from reading them I suspect the 1's wish that 0 was an option. It seems to break down to love/hate mass combat == love/hate the scenario. Beyond the boss fight are all the encounters mass combat, or is there a mix?
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It is absolutely a love/hate of mass combat rules.
My particular objection is that mass combat means you're not really playing your character (outside of their Charisma modifier) for several hours. You can certainly roleplay "Mammoths! Charge!" a few times, but it starts to get old for a lot of players quickly. Some tables are spending 3 hours on mass combat. I know some of the PaizoCon tables didn't do all the mass combat engagements due to time restrictions (such a single token one for flavor) and it's possible those are the ones actually getting higher reviews since less time is spent in mass combat.
And the mass combat rules are a bit clunky because they don't favor holding strategic locations, so you'll see a lot of tables that simply group up as one large army and run around... typical strategic war-gaming places strategic emphasis and rewards from holding locations. The scenario could've been written with some of this (i.e. simultaneously achieve these 3 goals) which would've allowed more tables to experience more variety (as 6 armies would need to split into 3 armies each composed of 2 players or such).
(To be fair, there's two other parts that will garner love/hate responses as well, but I won't mention those here since that are spoilery)
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The impact of a PC's charisma is somewhat negligible at least at the times I've seen this scenario in play.
The PC armies are rarely routed (usually hot dice mean an army is straight destroyed, and a routed army with 3hp left isn't really much of a factor anyway), and folks don't generally shift tactics such that a morale check is required.
When I ran the scenario, the PCs with the hottest dice were generally the strongest. How hot your dice are matters a lot more than usual in mass combat because damage dealt is the excess in which the OM roll exceeds the DV. When I last ran the second engagement, my dice were rolling very well and the PC army's were grouped up and I grouped up the demon armies in response. PCs were focus firing demon armies, so the demon armies had responded by focus firing PC armies. When running the demon armies, you'd likely attack whichever PC army is being reckless and employing raging brutality, which essentially means their DV may be like 12. With a handful of armies (say 4) all attacking that reckless PC army, if you roll a 14,16,17,19, you're looking at a destroyed PC army the first round.
Sadly, I'm not generally a fan of mass combat since in order to enjoy it, it requires the players to run their armies in a mechanically suboptimal fashion and to create situations on the battlefield ("Oh! My army doesn't need any help with these demons, why don't you go after those others on that hill there...") that are beyond those the scenario presents. Once one army groups up into a "mega-stack", the other army should follow and then it's just a bunch of fairly uninteresting rolls until it's resolved.
