Seven Sins from Seven Virtues, and then...? (Spoilers)


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Is there a 'virtue' intended to have been corrupted by Liralarue to become her runemagic of vainglory? Possibly cooperation, as she seemed to find it an aspect of Emperor Xin that was naive?

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There is not, since vainglory and divination focus is a "home-brewed" thing that she worked on outside of the whole paradigm that First Emperor Xin and the original runelords built their traditions off of.

If there were, I think the best virtue would probably be modesty. But again... the traditions the runelords and Xin drew from only incorporated seven virtues. If it were eight, then the Sihedron would be an eight-pointed star and vainglory would have been part of the thing from day one.


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James Jacobs wrote:

There is not, since vainglory and divination focus is a "home-brewed" thing that she worked on outside of the whole paradigm that First Emperor Xin and the original runelords built their traditions off of.

If there were, I think the best virtue would probably be modesty. But again... the traditions the runelords and Xin drew from only incorporated seven virtues. If it were eight, then the Sihedron would be an eight-pointed star and vainglory would have been part of the thing from day one.

Makes sense, thanks! I have a player with a story hook in their backstory that suggests they might enjoy running into something about the virtues that preceded sin magic, and I've been trying to come up with some ways to fit that in with Liralarue's theories in this AP. That gives me some ideas...

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