I also like the idea of racial archtypes.
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?
Can't wait to see the example races for the race creation section and all theinteresting options for the races I would like to play.
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?Anything and everything Forgotten Realms is not OGC.
Would make for a decent fan conversion Magus archetype, though.
Bladesigners are not FR, they were introduced in the Complete Book of Elves (2e).
Same thing for dual weapon wielding drows, they were an option in Gygax' Unearthed Arcana (1e).
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?Anything and everything Forgotten Realms is not OGC.
Would make for a decent fan conversion Magus archetype, though.
Bladesingers are not FR, they were introduced in the Complete Book of Elves (2e). Besides, wardancers from Warhammer are not that dissimilar, I guess the cocnept is not that weird.
Dual weapon wielding drows aren't FR either, they were introduced in Unearther Arcana (1e) as well.
I hope so we something that makes an Elf Ranger even more badass.
I am happy that the Catfolk, Dhampir, Asimar, Tiefling, and the elemental races got 6 pages but I do wish that the Vanara, Gripli and the races from the Tian Xia books got the 6 page treatment as well. But I still can't wait for this book.
Dual weapon wielding drows aren't FR either, they were introduced in Unearther Arcana (1e) as well.
Yes, I think drow were the original dual-wielders. Remember that joke in the Gygax memorial panel about female drow cavaliers dual-wielding lances and riding unicorns?
Personally, I'm hoping for subraces, archetypes etc that play with the racial modifiers a bit. Athasian elves (not called that, obviously) without a penalty to constitution, urban dwarves that aren't socially challenged monk-wannabes, perhaps half-orcs that are truly bestial and not yet another +2 to stat of your choice race...
I have had to resort to summoning the help of the MRA (Monster Reformation Alliance) to rectify the grievious error of not including the mite in this product!
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?Anything and everything Forgotten Realms is not OGC.
Would make for a decent fan conversion Magus archetype, though.
You are mistaken about where they come from. They were introduced in 2nd editions Complete Elves handbook and were not campaign specific. FR just likes to gobble everything up and act as if it was their idea.
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?
You might want to check out the Singer of the Blades magus archetype in The Secrets of the Magus (also here on d20pfsrd.com). It also stacks with the Bladebound archetype.
Edit: And now that I think of it, there is also the Spire Defender magus archetype from Inner Sea Magic (also here).
I am happy that the Catfolk, Dhampir, Asimar, Tiefling, and the elemental races got 6 pages but I do wish that the Vanara, Gripli and the races from the Tian Xia books got the 6 page treatment as well. But I still can't wait for this book.
Yeah, I was disappointed when I heard that the new Tian Xia races weren't going to get 6 pages too. Hopefully they still get some cool stuff and this product could be used to test the waters for an Advanced Race Guide II or something.
Maybe we will get a bladesinger for the elves or is that not OGL?You might want to check out the Singer of the Blades magus archetype in The Secrets of the Magus (also here on d20pfsrd.com). It also stacks with the Bladebound archetype.
Edit: And now that I think of it, there is also the Spire Defender magus archetype from Inner Sea Magic (also here).
Thanks!
Well if they all get racial archtypes and other cool abilities in those two pages then it will be worth it.
I... Want... This... Book... but it hurts to wait!
Your not the only one.
This is like races of the dragon, on pcp. I'm not even interested in the race builder, but mmm archetypes and alternate traits... yum.
Your not the only one who wants this book ether.
Your not the only one who wants this book ether.
Considering you post in this thread weekly like clockwork to remind us how much you want this book, I don't think anyone believes that they're the only ones excited for it. :-P
Have there been any more previews placed online?
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All I got to say is, "Look at those kobolds bravely taking on that black eyed monster invading their home! Down with the black eyed monster!"
Preordered this and Ultimate Equipment.
If you a subscription, you get the PDF for free, wish I started my subscription much earlier so I would have been able look at the last two beastiaries early.
I hope this book gives either different stats or traits or something (ala Infernal Bastard for Tieflings)to bring all the non-core races at least somewhat more in line with the core races. I would let my players play whatever they want but then we would get a party with: Drow, Kobold, Orc, Sylph and Human. The Kobold complains he is UP, the Human compares himself to the Drow and says the Drow needs a nerf or he needs a buff, the Orc says "Raaage!" and cuts someone in half because he's power-gaming a Barbarian and the Sylph is lol-ing at the party.
I would just like to see all the races being close to balanced so people can play what they want without problems 9although within reason...I don't let my players have a full-party of rare races. 1 rare race and 2 uncommon races per party, max.
They'll do fine with any race. Except kobolds, I guess.
@ Cheapy -- why not kobolds?
Kobolds are in the book, Cheapy is just trying to be funny.
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Of course kobolds are in the book. Just try keeping kobolds out of a place they want to be. :D
He just means there won't be much a power nudge for kobolds and their crippled stat block, via something infernal bastard-esq. I don't think they'll have many "blood of fiends" style stat block changes, but maybe some light things via traits, or alt race features. We might see a mild chromatic dragon set, of alt stat blocks, but that might be saved for a "Blood of fiends" style book. "Blood of Dragons" does have a ring to it.
I feel like kobolds are handicapped to non-melee, support roles. OP drow due to what, SR? they have to turn it off for spell healing no? Out of all the PC races,from gilmen to even vanilla Hobogoblins, kobolds has hideous stat blocks. Way to go pun pun. Heck they don't even appear in APs that much, they're so bad.
Yeah, I've seen that they (kobolds) get a full 6 page spread! I hope for many great options to be included -- ones that make it more viable as a PC race (like including the alternatives from Classic Monsters Revisted) :-)
Does anyone know if rules will be included in the ARG for having alternate versions of a race (as in "sub-races"), with say alternate bonuses to ability scores?
So far, Paizo has seemed reluctant to include the idea that there are many, many, (and still even more) version of a race like "Elf" -- what with High/Grey/Moon/Sun/Wood/Wild/Etc (Faerun had like 12 different flavors of elven subraces) all being slightly altered versions of the base "ELF" race. They have the "alternative racial traits" rules, which I love, but the way those rules are written up it is as if any elf may have an alternate racial trait.
In various campaigns I or my GM have just ruled that a particular "sub-race" always has specific traits, for instance, Woodcraft instead of Elven Magic, to reflect that sub-races' connection with the forest over magic. This has worked well enough, but I really wish Paizo would include specific rules for the idea of a sub-race, going so far as to allow base attribute bonuses to be altered between one sub-race and another (so my Wild Elf doesn't have to lose two points of Con, despite having grown up in the harsh forest of Whereeverland).
I know I could just alter them as I see fit, or use the race building rules to make an almost exact replica of the standard elf, just slightly different, but for official games and rule-lawyer GMs there is always a hangup unless it says it in the book. I tried scanning over and then searching this thread but I haven't found the answer yet.
Well giving Kobolds some dragon related abilities like energy resistance 10, resistance(or immunity) to sleep and paralysis, etc. would be nice.
Just a few more weeks!
More then a few more weeks, actually almost six.
question for Mr. Jacobs, or whoever the person is to ask as I'm sure Mr. Jacobs can get the right person to ask....
will this book contain the half- monster breeds?? such as half fiend, half celestial, and half draon as well as the half-dm headache?
I was just wondering with the release of the blood of fiends/angel/etc if those template were going to get an update if they were to appear in this book???
its no problem if they dont and all... just wanted to ask
I read in a few threads (including the Ask James Jacobs thread)
and the answer for more half-breed templates or modifications to them and if it would happen.the answer is "No."
it was very recent
I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like Paizo's design team could post a blog on the Advanced Race Guide a day until release and it still wouldn't be enough to sate my craving for this book. : /
I hope to see more kitsune and halfling love!
Maybe Lizardmen or Dragonbornesque creatures. Are the Dragonborn owned by Wizards?