Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Race Guide (OGL)

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Get the most out of your heritage with the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide! Embrace your inner monster by playing one of 30 iconic races from mythology and gaming history, or build an entirely new race of your own. If classic races are more your style, go beyond the stereotypes for elves, dwarves, and the other core races with new options and equipment to help you stand out from the crowd.

The Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide is a bold new companion to the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. This imaginative tabletop game builds on more than 10 years of system development and an Open Playtest featuring more than 50,000 gamers to create a cutting-edge RPG experience that brings the all-time best-selling set of fantasy rules into the new millennium.

The 256-page Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide includes:

  • New rules and options to help you customize all seven of the classic core races, including new racial traits, racial subtypes, and racial archetypes.
  • 30 exotic races, from mischievous goblins and reptilian kobolds to crow-headed tengus and deadly drow, each with complete rules for use as player characters, plus archetypes, alternate racial traits, and other options for maximum customization.
  • A complete and balanced system for creating an unlimited number of new races, mixing and matching powers and abilities to form characters and cultures specific to your campaign.
  • Tons of new race-specific equipment, feats, spells, and magic items for each of the races detailed!
  • ... and much, much more!

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Gotta be that guy

5/5

This book was wonderful, I've only read bits and pieces of it so far due to time constraints but everything I've read so far is gold.

My friend and I looked at the experimental gunslinger and the bushwhacker archetypes and we're already planning a battle between "seal team gnome" and the "tali-bold" and if you don't think that's awesome and funny....well then you sir have no sense of humor.

The fluff provided is great, getting a little more indepth into the dragon empire races would've been awesome, but I know most books work on the assumption of the Inner Sea as the main region, and of course simple size restraints.

I'll have to be honest I haven't really looked at the race builder yet, but I thought the playtest was okay, and hope that they worked out a lot of the kinks.

So all in all there is a little bit of something for everyone, even enough i'd say to warrant play a race, such as the kobold, that was always thought underpowered by most people (especially myself) just for the awesome flavor provided. Great job paizo, I'm pumped for Ultimate Equipment so hurry up!

P.S. and in reference to my review title, even though I know it's too new a race and probably wasn't popular enough to warrant going in here, to be that guy......NO KURU? AWWWWWW COME ON GUYS! KURU BARBARIAN ARCHETYPES WRITE THEMSELVES!


Homerun!

5/5

I've got a full review posted here: http://seekersofsecrets.com/?p=520

As others already noted this book channels what is great about the Advanced Player's Guide and is full of interesting options and choices for your Pathfinder game! The $9.99 pdf is a no-brainer purchase.


Decent, but not impressive.

3/5

I found this book to be a mixed bag and just barely worth the price of the PDF.

The first 3 chapters present every race that can be a PC and gives you a whole slew (yes, slew) of options for customizing each race. I found the majority of the options to be both useful and flavorful. All of these races are previously available, but it is convenient to have all the races in one book when you are creating your character. Of course, if you have access to modern technology in the form of a laptop full of PDFs or even a 3G smartphone, then the luxury of one book of races becomes slightly less impressive.

The fourth chapter is where things go downhill. The more I use their race creation system, the more I just plain dislike it for making balanced PCs. I disliked it during the play test and I dislike it more now. I build a lot of custom PC races for my campaigns, so I'm feeling more than a little let down by this part of the book. Another race building system was devised on the Paizo forums that blows this one out of the water, in my opinion. On the other hand, if I need to slap together a "savage" NPC or monstrous BBEG, I will probably use this system. So it's got that going for it, I guess.

The artwork is excellent, by the way. Every race gets a nice picture and the cool new monsters that Paizo tries to pass off as example races are especially cool.


Back to APG quality level!

5/5

OK, the inevitable racial splat book is here. Let's see what we get...

You know what I loved about APG? It was a book for everyone. It's universal appeal, combined with a reasonable amount of optional material, made it such a big hit.

Narrowing the focus and increasing the amount of "no thanks, will never use it" pages is what irritated me about Ultimate Magic and Ultimate Combat. The former was a particularily bad offender, with zero stuff for non-caster classes and a horribly big Words of Power chapter. So the question here is, is Paizo back on track?

Yes, I say. This book covers the core races extensively, deals with Featured Races (drow, kobolds, tengus, tieflings, aasimars...) and throws a bone to fans of Uncommon Races (duergar, grippli, Dragon Empires races...)

In every instance we get: alternate racial traits (first introduced in APG), racial subtypes (sets of racial traits that allow you to create, say, a Mountain Dwarf or an Arctic Elf), racial favored class options, racial archetypes for existing classes, equipment, feats, magic items and spells.

There's a mountain of material here, and that's a mountain anybody can climb. Whichever race you like, there will be something for you there. Dwarven hammer specialists? Yes. Half-orc paladins who are all about redeeming themselves and their race? Aye. Skaven Poison Globadier...errr, sorry, Ratfolk Plague Alchemists? Neek-neek!

Then comes the race creation chapter, which is reasonably sized and very useful for any GM who wants to create his/her new races or do what everyone is going to do: reverse-engineer warforged and thri-kreen. C'mon, I know you want to.

Great book, glad to see the APG mojo back.


Awesome Book!

5/5

I've had the opportunity to look at this book for several days and I have to say that it is simply amazing. Not since the APG has a book come out that has something for everyone. I'll break it down by chapter.

Chapter 1: Core Races: This part of the book describes the 7 core race and include a concept which IMO can create great character back story and RP opportunities. That’s the Racial Archetypes - Think Elven Bladesinger from the realms and you'll know what I mean. Finally something that most people in the world can't get but your race. In addition the core races have racial subtypes that don’t change the race stats, but do give flavor by changing the racial traits. Dread Gnome and Gear Gnome come into mind. Finally there are spells & magic items that are primarily used by each race, not exclusively but primarily.

Chapter 2: Focuses on the secondary less fecund races, many of which have been given out as Boons for the Pathfinder Society Games or have been played by fans of RPG games for decades. Fans and Foes of the Drow will be pleased as you can play a drow and work yourselves to becoming 'noble' by spending quite a lot of feats. IMO a balanced approach from what could have been a cheese-fest. There are equipment items which are found primarily (exclusively) in areas where the races are predominant. Some of which are really sweet RP flavor: I'm looking at you Fire Ink (Ifrit Equipment)!

Chapter 3: this continues with the more Uncommon races such as the Sulis, Samsaran, etc. This chapter is written in a similar format to the first two chapters with racial traits/Equipment/special rules all to flavor your character and create more RP opportunities for players. Some of my favorites races included in this were the Sulis and the Elemental Flux vial they can only use which can be both versatile as an player tool but can also be used by the GM to create some fun havoc (you'll see why).

Chapter 4: Was the Race builder where you are given the mechanic behind race creation. Many of the core races and some of the more common monsters were broken down to explain the point creation system. I didn’t tool around too much with this part as I'd rather just pay someone else to create the races for me to play with. But all in all its a simple race creator that doesn’t bog the system down with complicated calculations.

Appendix; This is one of my favorites parts. really you say. well it has something many gamers have been clamoring for years: The Starting ages, maximum ages charts and Height and Weights of the 35+ races featured in this book. How long can a Dhampir or Sylph live for? when do they reace middle age? What is their starting adventuring ages...its in the book!

A great book overall and very well done. This book has something for every player and GM. The Alternate abilities, Racial Traits, and options included in this are sure to make even the most ardent purist eyes light up. So go grab a copy and check it out.


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I remember awhile back that they were thinking of racial abilities you get based on your character level but I not sure why they change there minds. But as for me I like the idea always have.


Sorry if this has already been addressed elsewhere, but I was wondering if this means that playable races for PFS play will expand beyond the core 7. If so, then YAY!
If not, then ;_;

I'll still probably get it. Seems to be too interesting to pass up even if some of the things are going to be closed.


I haven't heard about any updates for the races for PFS ether.


I'm with Mikaze, hoping that some slight differences from the humanoid form will be possible in the race creation section, like Snaketails instead of legs or an extra pair of arms. The former especially shouldn't be a cause for huge imbalances, all it would probably do is change speed and a few movement related rules and maybe need something to deal with magical footwear.


Ajaxis wrote:
Golden-Esque wrote:
Mournblade94 wrote:
You certainly could not call them Draconians. But I do not think that creating a race of Dragon Warriors can be copyrighted. I remember a cool Dragon article from the 80's before dragon lance came out, where you cast spells on a Dragon's Tooth, plant it in the ground and a Dragon Warrior formed.
Considering that the concept of planting a dragon's tooth into the ground and warriors popping out is directly from Greek mythology and is therefore a trope "Older Than Writing," you are in deed correct in that it cannot be copyrighted :).
I'd forgotten all about that. How about Spartoi ("sown" per the Wikipedia entry) as the race of dragon-men.

Spartoi already exist in Pathfinder as undead warriors that spring from teeth planted in the ground. The singular form is Spartolos and the creature is listed in the bestiary for the Council of Thieves AP. They're undead warriors that spring-up from "Spartoi Seeds," which are teeth stained by ash. While usually appearing as dragon teeth, spartoi seeds sometimes also take the form of serpent, wolf, or human teeth. Spartoi gain special bonuses to flanking and channel resistance by working with other spartoi. Their illustration makes them look more like undead Roman legionnaires than any kind of dragon men.

Since the Spartolos appeared in Council of Thieves, hopefully it will be in Bestiary 3.


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Threeshades wrote:
I'm with Mikaze, hoping that some slight differences from the humanoid form will be possible in the race creation section, like Snaketails instead of legs or an extra pair of arms.

Interesting what some people consider a "slight change".

Changing legs to a snake tail shouldn't be possible for a humanoid. Snake tails should not appear on humanoids; that's for monstrous humanoids (four arms, too, probably), and I don't think changing creature type should be a bigger thing.


Merfolk are humaniods so having a snake tail is not that different.


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Dragon78 wrote:
Merfolk are humaniods so having a snake tail is not that different.

Huh, you're right. I always thought that humanoids were supposed to be, well, humanoid. :)

The rules for the humanoid creature type say "A humanoid usually has two arms, two legs, and one head, or a human-like torso, arms, and a head." Ah well, just usually, then.

For the monstrous humanoid type it says "Monstrous humanoids are similar to humanoids, but with monstrous or animalistic features." That makes me think that races like the merfolk should actually be filed in this category.


Zaister wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
Merfolk are humaniods so having a snake tail is not that different.

Huh, you're right. I always thought that humanoids were supposed to be, well, humanoid. :)

The rules for the humanoid creature type say "A humanoid usually has two arms, two legs, and one head, or a human-like torso, arms, and a head." Ah well, just usually, then.

For the monstrous humanoid type it says "Monstrous humanoids are similar to humanoids, but with monstrous or animalistic features." That makes me think that races like the merfolk should actually be filed in this category.

Well the description also fits gnolls and lizardfolk, both now humanoid (as opposed to 3.5 where they were monstrous humanoids) the category got broader I guess.


Threeshades wrote:
Well the description also fits gnolls and lizardfolk, both now humanoid (as opposed to 3.5 where they were monstrous humanoids) the category got broader I guess.

In 3.5 gnolls were humanoid (gnoll) and lizardfolk were humanoid (reptilian)


HalifaxDM wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Well the description also fits gnolls and lizardfolk, both now humanoid (as opposed to 3.5 where they were monstrous humanoids) the category got broader I guess.
In 3.5 gnolls were humanoid (gnoll) and lizardfolk were humanoid (reptilian)

Then it was 3.0.

Anyway the only major difference between a lizardfolk and a humanoid with a snaketail for legs or a merfolk is a pair of limbs, and that doesn't have to affect the rules any more than modifiying speed.


I remember Gnolls and Lizardfolk being classified as Humaniods since 3rd edition started, they were never Monstrous Humaniods.


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The mechanical difference between Humanoid and Monstrous Humanoid is currently defined by what spells affect and Favored Enemy details, for the most part. The tails, wings, etc has shrunk to the level of Fluff, again, for the most part. All in all, I think it works better.


I still would love some options for serpentine lower body, fish, horse, lion, etc.

hooved feat would be nice.

Magical Beast, Dragon, and Aberration choices.

Silver Crusade

Hooved feet without requiring the race to not be humanoids would be great, as would, again, snake-tail/no leg options and other such support for stranger anatomy.

I'm really hoping the calls for that stuff in the playtest forum were taken to heart.


Yes but deffinetly have to be monstrous humaniod, aberration, or outsider to have tentacles. Well of course plants would have tendrils or vines.

The only tiny sized creature type I would play would be Fey, but having the option for other types would be nice for variaty's sake.


Dragon78 wrote:

Yes but deffinetly have to be monstrous humaniod, aberration, or outsider to have tentacles. Well of course plants would have tendrils or vines.

The only tiny sized creature type I would play would be Fey, but having the option for other types would be nice for variaty's sake.

Don't forget the star-nosed mole: Youtube star-nosed mole

They have tentacles on their noses.

Guessing there are also some other creatures of the animal type that have tentacles.

Of course I suppose that's less relevant if we're talking about player races. But if gnolls are humanoids, then star-nosed mole people could be too. Or Squid people.


Dragon78 wrote:
Yes but deffinetly have to be monstrous humaniod, aberration, or outsider to have tentacles.

Why is that?

What exactly makes you draw the line at tentacles?

Silver Crusade

Threeshades wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
Yes but deffinetly have to be monstrous humaniod, aberration, or outsider to have tentacles.

Why is that?

What exactly makes you draw the line at tentacles?

Have to ask the same question.

I'd really rather not force any race intended to be a player option out of the stock "humanoid" classification for a lot of reasons, many of which involve rules effects which don't make any sense for the flavor.

Besides, not every homebrew world is going to adhere to the same strict standard expectations. That and I don't really see this body type as being any more monstrous than a merperson.

To require a race to be of a specific type to qualify for tentacles is like requiring a race to be Fey in order to be Tiny, really.


Exactly. Why create artificial restrictions to certain things when they're not necessary?

It's not like we're asking for options to make something completely insane like a snake-tailed, winged zombie-pigman with 3 heads, 17 eyes and 8 tentacles for arms, merely the option to exchange one or two humanoid features for something else, which doesn't even have to be an inherent bonus but can come with both advantages and disadvantages, simply for more variety.


Options for one eye or more then two eyes.

Liberty's Edge

If I missed this, I apologize - I only skimmed through the six pages worth of posts and did not really follow the playtest much.

It seems like most, if not all of the playable races are of the less than CR 1 type. Has there been any discussion about how more powerful monsterous races can be a balanced, playable PC race? Obviously there is no more level adjustment ...


Marc Radle wrote:

If I missed this, I apologize - I only skimmed through the six pages worth of posts and did not really follow the playtest much.

It seems like most, if not all of the playable races are of the less than CR 1 type. Has there been any discussion about how more powerful monsterous races can be a balanced, playable PC race? Obviously there is no more level adjustment ...

One suggestion was in the playtest document and will likely be in the book.

Liberty's Edge

Azure_Zero wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:

If I missed this, I apologize - I only skimmed through the six pages worth of posts and did not really follow the playtest much.

It seems like most, if not all of the playable races are of the less than CR 1 type. Has there been any discussion about how more powerful monsterous races can be a balanced, playable PC race? Obviously there is no more level adjustment ...

One suggestion was in the playtest document and will likely be in the book.

Do you by any chance recall what that was?

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Card Game, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Marc Radle wrote:
Azure_Zero wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:

If I missed this, I apologize - I only skimmed through the six pages worth of posts and did not really follow the playtest much.

It seems like most, if not all of the playable races are of the less than CR 1 type. Has there been any discussion about how more powerful monsterous races can be a balanced, playable PC race? Obviously there is no more level adjustment ...

One suggestion was in the playtest document and will likely be in the book.
Do you by any chance recall what that was?

Depending on how many points you use to build the race, and your character level, there is an adjustment to the APL of the party so that more difficult creatures turn up.

One of the example races in the back of the playtest doc is the Frost Giant, so the system is pretty capable...


Marc Radle wrote:
Azure_Zero wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:

If I missed this, I apologize - I only skimmed through the six pages worth of posts and did not really follow the playtest much.

It seems like most, if not all of the playable races are of the less than CR 1 type. Has there been any discussion about how more powerful monsterous races can be a balanced, playable PC race? Obviously there is no more level adjustment ...

One suggestion was in the playtest document and will likely be in the book.
Do you by any chance recall what that was?

On Page 3 of the ARG playtest

Challenging Advanced and Monstrous Races
Because they have powerful racial traits and abilities, advanced
and monstrous races require greater challenges, especially
at lower levels. The basic guideline for accomplishing this is
to treat a group of characters with advanced and monstrous
races as a level or more higher for a number of levels based
on their total RP spent, using the following chart. When you
create encounters or adventures for the group, treat them as
the adjusted level instead of their actual level. For groups with
mixed power levels, average the RP and round the results to
the nearest multiple of 10.
____________________Level
RP __1–5 ___ __6–10_ _11–15__ __16–20_
20 (+1 level) (+0 level) (+0 level) (+0 level)
30 (+2 level) (+1 level) (+0 level) (+0 level)
40 (+3 level) (+2 level) (+1 level) (+0 level)


Didn't they have a sneak peek of the real cover?

Grand Lodge

Are we going to see additional favored class options, like what we saw in Advanced Player's Guide? Specifically, are we going to see an addendum to those rules to make up for the classes that came after that book was published, namely the Magus, Gunslinger, Ninja, Samurai, and Antipaladin?*

*Yes I know antipaladin was in APG.


Strife2002 wrote:

Are we going to see additional favored class options, like what we saw in Advanced Player's Guide? Specifically, are we going to see an addendum to those rules to make up for the classes that came after that book was published, namely the Magus, Gunslinger, Ninja, Samurai, and Antipaladin?*

*Yes I know antipaladin was in APG.

That was requested and is likely to be printed, but no guarantees at this point.

Grand Lodge

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I'm pretty sick of Aasimar and Tieflings; I was hoping for Lawful and Chaotic plane-touched getting equal billing. Surely I can't be alone in this?


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RedBeardSean wrote:
I'm pretty sick of Aasimar and Tieflings; I was hoping for Lawful and Chaotic plane-touched getting equal billing. Surely I can't be alone in this?

I wouldn't mind seeing those and a Neutral plane-touched as well.


Well, at least we are getting at least some sort of description for the various races. If I remember correctly, we did not get that kind of treatment of these races in 3.5.

Concerning something else, I will be playing a newly created Sylph air elementalist wizard in a new campaign. Did anything change concerning the abilities of the Sylph? Most importantly, does Air Affinity now help with being an air elementalist wizard (as it currently helps a sorcerer and a cleric, but not a wizard)?

Silver Crusade

I know there's going to be plenty of mechanics present for these races, but I wonder how much flavor is going to be there for the races getting the 6-page treatment, especially since it doesn't have to be bound to what's canon in Golarion. Could we see some interesting non-always-evil cultural details or suggestions for races like orcs, goblins, etc.?

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Mikaze wrote:

I know there's going to be plenty of mechanics present for these races, but I wonder how much flavor is going to be there for the races getting the 6-page treatment, especially since it doesn't have to be bound to what's canon in Golarion. Could we see some interesting non-always-evil cultural details or suggestions for races like orcs, goblins, etc.?

Hopefully a lot of flavor!

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Well... it seems there's a lot more stuff to add the Ogerkin templete to.


Spiral_Ninja wrote:
RedBeardSean wrote:
I'm pretty sick of Aasimar and Tieflings; I was hoping for Lawful and Chaotic plane-touched getting equal billing. Surely I can't be alone in this?
I wouldn't mind seeing those and a Neutral plane-touched as well.

Trippo and ditto.

Grand Lodge

I believe the actual cover of the book is previewed in the back of the Pathfinder Society Scenarios just released.

Page 25 of #03-11
Page 25 of #03-12

~@~

Dark Archive

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The cover art is also in the newest Wayfinder #6


Will this book give us back things like "wood elves" or "forest gnomes" and the like?

Dark Archive

Lord Fyre wrote:
Cat Girls?

Bestiary 3 has it.


So how many pages are the base races getting?

Grand Lodge

Can't wait the book to come out.


Troy70 wrote:
Can't wait the book to come out.

Your not the only one.

I would like it now, but would prefer a well polished product than a half-baked one.


Gururamalamaswami wrote:
Will this book give us back things like "wood elves" or "forest gnomes" and the like?

Not as a separate subrace, but probably as Alternate Racial Traits. With the exception of the Drow, Paizo has done a good job at preventing subrace bloat (and even then, the drow are a classic subrace that are actually interesting. Wood Elves are just elves that live in the woods and have slightly different racial stats to make the min-maxers happy).


I thought wood elves were already discussed in Elves of Golarion?


With the addition of gunslingers in Ultimate Combat I would love to see the Giff make an appearance.


Thunderforge wrote:
With the addition of gunslingers in Ultimate Combat I would love to see the Giff make an appearance.

A Giff gunslinger with a brace of a half dozen pistols and a wide bore musket. Johdpurs and monocle required.

Silver Crusade

Leo_Negri wrote:
Thunderforge wrote:
With the addition of gunslingers in Ultimate Combat I would love to see the Giff make an appearance.
A Giff gunslinger with a brace of a half dozen pistols and a wide bore musket. Johdpurs and monocle required.

Don't forget your epaulettes!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Giffs are WotC IP, so no go.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Giffs are WotC IP, so no go.

So, folks can just create their own homebrewed race of pachyderm-like humanoids with a penchant for firearms and travel to otherworlds with an urge to conquer... four-armed Elephant Men of Mars... er, Castrovel... FTW! ;)

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