| Kain Darkwind |
Now, we just need for this AP to have two great "Pirate" themed adventures, then abruptly switch to an Underdark campaign.
Uh, why do we need this? I'm assuming that it is some sarcastic reference to one of the other APs, though I'm not placing it immediately.
I'll be happy with a large pirate themed game, myself.
| Sincubus |
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! Pirates and sea monsters!!
I have much fate in you guys that this will be the BEST Adventure Path this far, a huge task as most of the others are already extremly good!
I really hope you keep the current art-style non-touched, It would be a nightmare to see a totally new artstyle in the books as the current one was sooo good! (I didn't really liked the art-change in one adventure path, the one with the Springheel Jack in it... that artstyle was too gothic for my personal taste... I hope we don't see that back again!)
But anyway
Charybdis and Scylla, Sirens and Loreleis here we come!! (Don't forget to look-up the Symplegades from Greek mythology, those would be welcome in this sea-based adventure with much ships, blood and pirates.
GeraintElberion
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Lord Fyre wrote:Now, we just need for this AP to have two great "Pirate" themed adventures, then abruptly switch to an Underdark campaign.Uh, why do we need this? I'm assuming that it is some sarcastic reference to one of the other APs, though I'm not placing it immediately.
I'll be happy with a large pirate themed game, myself.
| vikingson |
** spoiler omitted **
Which actually was one of the most unsatisfying APs by paizo, ever.
bits and pieces salvaged from this rotten badly-sewn-togerther monstrosity crept up "in exilium" in other campaigns of mine, but that one.... *shiver*
Though I felt similarly after the change of focus in the "Serpent's Skull" AP after the islandish introduction.
As for this AP - will the .Pdf be out on time in mid-march ? or will taht be delayed due toe the chinese holiday as well. As a European subscriber, I am used to my "print" copy turning up several weeks after the online version (nice to have, though), so please, publish the pdf on shecudle, will you ?
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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As for this AP - will the .Pdf be out on time in mid-march ? or will taht be delayed due toe the chinese holiday as well. As a European subscriber, I am used to my "print" copy turning up several weeks after the online version (nice to have, though), so please, publish the pdf on shecudle, will you ?
Subscribers get their PDFs when their corresponding print edition ships, and non-subscribers can purchase the PDF on the book's retail release date.
| Peanuts |
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I though the players guide's came out like a week early.
I believe that is because it comes out when the Subscribers are shipped their copies, which is usually about a week before the official release date. :) The benefits of being a subscriber.
This will be my first time subscribed from the start of the Adventure Path though, so I may be wrong there.
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Mike Silva wrote:I though the players guide's came out like a week early.I believe that is because it comes out when the Subscribers are shipped their copies, which is usually about a week before the official release date. :) The benefits of being a subscriber.
This will be my first time subscribed from the start of the Adventure Path though, so I may be wrong there.
Avast! Ye be right!. Subscribers get t' PDF as soon as their cargo sails, which be usually a week early.
That ship still puts in at t' End o' March at t' soonest.
Gorbacz
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Here is my question in regards to this AP. I don't understand how it will fundamentally work (especially towards the end of the first installment). A pirate ship... has ONE captain. How can it be the basis for a party adventure.
Just like a kingdom having one king/queen was a basis for Kingmaker :)
| Zantumal |
Joshua Robertson wrote:Here is my question in regards to this AP. I don't understand how it will fundamentally work (especially towards the end of the first installment). A pirate ship... has ONE captain. How can it be the basis for a party adventure.Just like a kingdom having one king/queen was a basis for Kingmaker :)
More detail please. I haven't read/played Kingmaker. I own it, being a charter subscriber but my gaming group gets together approximately once every two MONTHS due to all of us being to busy with work and other obligations. I've got all these AP's and havent been able to use ANY of them because we can't finish a campaign.
michaelane
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In Kingmaker, one plays the role of King/Queen. Others play other roles, Spymaster, Magister, etc. Your kingdom gets a bonus on certain rolls by having people filling various positions. Here, in all likelihood, one will be the captain and others first mate, etc. I don't know if they'll carry forward similar mechanics.
ciretose
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GeraintElberion wrote:** spoiler omitted **
Which actually was one of the most unsatisfying APs by paizo, ever.
bits and pieces salvaged from this rotten badly-sewn-togerther monstrosity crept up "in exilium" in other campaigns of mine, but that one.... *shiver*
In mild defense, as I am also not a fan of the AP as a whole, Children of the Void was pretty great.
Galnörag
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Is the late April ship date a delayed ship date for this product? I'm a bit confused, I know Jade Regent jumped a month but shouldn't this be in the March product stream?
Actually looking at all 6 of these it seems compressed, April, May, May, June, June, July?
| macabre dragon |
Is the late April ship date a delayed ship date for this product? I'm a bit confused, I know Jade Regent jumped a month but shouldn't this be in the March product stream?
Actually looking at all 6 of these it seems compressed, April, May, May, June, June, July?
As I've preordered Slumbering Tsar, the new Rappan Athuk, the Pathfinder minis (pawns and plastic), and the Rise of the Runelords hardcover, over the course of April - June my bank account is going to scream "Uncle!"
| Liz Courts Contributor |
Any idea how soon we'll see the Player's Guide released for this Adventure Path?
We generally release the Player's Guide at the same time that the first volume of an Adventure Path becomes available, so I would look for it in mid to late April.
| Zaister |
Oh, late April now. Last we heard it was "early April, possibly late March". That means almost a quarter of a year between the last delivery and this one, that's really quite a lot. Ah, well.
| deinol |
Now, we just need for this AP to have two great "Pirate" themed adventures, then abruptly switch to an Underdark campaign.
To be fair, they advertised Second Darkness from the beginning as a drow campaign. Which means of course it will go to the Darklands. Last I checked, there were indeed drow in every volume.
It just happened to start in a pirate town. I will admit letting the PCs get settled in before sending them on the road was probably a mistake. On the other hand, most epic adventure stories involve the heroes leaving their home for one reason or another. Part of that mythic cycle and all that.
I may be biased because Second Darkness was the first AP I read, but I happened to like it. I think it's way underrated. If Second Darkness is the worst Paizo can do, then it's silver being compared to gold.
| Ice Titan |
Oh, late April now. Last we heard it was "early April, possibly late March". That means almost a quarter of a year between the last delivery and this one, that's really quite a lot. Ah, well.
Here's the thing-- Paizo knows that Gencon is when they need to release a new AP. It excites people and creates word of mouth. So, we're going to be seeing Shattered Star in mid-August. This is pretty much a given.
It's like an accordion of AP volumes. Usually it's stretched out, but it's going to squash together soon. 6 of them are going to come out between "late-April" and August 16th. And the RotRL book is going to come out. And Shattered Star #1. 13 AP volumes worth of material in 5 months.
Just wait for it. It's going to be absurd.
| Talon3585 |
Tarrintino wrote:Any idea how soon we'll see the Player's Guide released for this Adventure Path?We generally release the Player's Guide at the same time that the first volume of an Adventure Path becomes available, so I would look for it in mid to late April.
crossing me fingerrrrrs for mid april.
| deathbydice |
So we are not actually going to see this even in .pdf form for another month, or rather 40 days (typing this on March 16th) ? Due to printing constraints in China ?
Not even the "never in print" Player's Guide ? Don't even begin to see the logic in this, and having the AP delayed for up to approximately six weeks....(pdf is now listed as available April 25th...) nevermind than having the actual print copy stuck in the mail to Europe for another three weeks. Make that May ?
That's a major nuiscance, especially for those waiting to actually start that campaign. I don't really suppose that the authors did not finish their scripts months ago and I could care less for the PR at GenCon.
It pains me to say so, but.... that's lame.
| Dr. Johnny Fever |
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If I was Paizo management I would hopefully be thinking of one definition of insanity: Performing the same actions over and over but expecting different results. They (Paizo) were caught unprepared by a combination of weather and Chinese holidays. So be it; good companies will learn from this painful experience and prepare contingency plans for the next time.
If, come Dec 2012 - Feb 2013, Paizo (and by extension, us the customers) experience these same issues, my respect for Paizo's leadership would take a significant hit.
Or to look at things another way, the Chinese holiday will happen again, the same time every year. Extreme weather is not a matter of if, but when. Accounting for these occurences is not necessarily cheap in terms of time, scope and resources (re: money and people), also known as the holy triad of project management, but it has to be done.
DJF
| Dr. Johnny Fever |
Or they can start looking for printers in countries that don't celebrate Chinese holidays.
I don't have a clue as to the cost of changing from a Chinese printer to one in a different country but I do hope that, going forward, the fact that Chinese holidays can impact Paizo's shipping schedule is accounted for.
DJF