A Call to Vol—How to Volunteer for Organized Play at Gen Con 50!

Monday, January 30, 2017

Hard to believe the year passed so fast, but it's time again to invite people to help out with Pathfinder Society activities at Gen Con. As in prior years, Paizo is once again a co-sponsor with our booth on the Exhibit Floor, seminars galore, and activities in the Sagamore Ballroom. But we have a few changes in store as well. So grab some coffee, get comfortable, and see what Organized Play has up its sleeve for the "Best Four Days in Gaming!"

Several weeks ago, I put out a call for volunteers to fill Department Head and Lead positions at Gen Con 50. It pleases me greatly to introduce this year's team. They and the PFS team will work closely to make Gen Con 50 the smoothest and most awesome event to date!

Leads

Jon Cary, Bob Jonquet, Todd Morgan, and Lucas Servideo

Department Heads

Kelly Brummond, Seth Brummond, Kevin Hanley, Tina Saunders, Walter Sheppard, Mark Stratton, and Dominick Trascritti.

What plans we have for this year! Adventure Card Guild (ACG) returns with play from all published Seasons, including Season of Plundered Tombs and Season of the Goblin. Back as well is the ever-popular Gen Con Open, bigger and badder than ever. On the Roleplaying Guild (RPG) side, we're offering a variety of scenarios from the current Year of the Stolen Storm, as well as some retro events from past Seasons. Season 9 takes off as well, though you'll have to wait until PaizoCon to hear the devious diabolical awesome plots concocted by John and the PFS team.

Following in the footsteps of last year's interactive, 8-00: The Cosmic Captive, Friday night's interactive will include both ACG and RPG components. Saturday evening will have a large event for RPG and Sunday sees the finals of the ACG Gen Con Open! The team has a few surprises up our sleeves, but the time is not yet ripe to share them. Once the schedule is finalized, we will share with our players via blog and Gen Con's event page!

Back again is Pathfinder Society Academy (PSA) returns, bigger than ever. This year, we reserved 15 tables for youth-friendly games. The schedule includes lessons—Beginner, Advanced, and Transitions—similar to prior years, as well as full scenarios from the Pathfinder Society catalog. Having a dedicated area for our youth and their families gives us the opportunity to offer positive experiences in a youth-friendly format.

At this time, we are still in discussions about what to do with our demo space. Until those are concluded, I don't want to make any announcements. Once we decide, we will reach out to the volunteer pool to fill the slots.

The past few years saw the HQ volunteers and the GM volunteers on vastly different schedules. While this helped with some of the logistics and people moving, the HQ slots were long and mixed groups couldn't match up their schedules. This year, we are trying a different approach. HQ schedules are shorter, but start an hour before the slot starts. We've adjusted the session requirements per Tier accordingly and returned the store credit to $10/slot for all volunteers.

The biggest change, besides HQ volunteer scheduling, is the addition of Midnight Madness. Well, midnight is a bit of a misnomer, since the slot starts at 2:00 AM. So I'll call it the "overnight" slot. We are keeping it small as we test the waters and see how many people are up and wanting to game. So our games this year run around the clock - (8:00 AM to 1:00 PM, 2:00 PM to 7:00 PM, and 8:00 PM to 1:00 AM, 2:00 AM to 7:00 AM), with the exception of Sunday (9:00 AM to 2:00 PM). I also need a few volunteers to help set up Wednesday Morning and teardown Sunday Afternoon. If you are interested in either of these slots, which don't count towards your Tier requirements but do earn store credit and pizza, please indicate your interest in the Notes section of the Volunteer Questionnaire.

Volunteer Slot Schedule

SlotGMsHQ
Wednesday Afternoon
Thursday Morning7:30 AM to 1:00 PM7:00 AM to 1:00 PM
Thursday Afternoon1:30 PM to 7:00 PM1:00 PM to 7:00 PM
Thursday Evening7:30 PM to 1:00 AM7:00 PM to 1:00 AM
Thursday Overnight1:30 AM to 7:00 AM1:00 AM to 7:00 AM
Friday Morning7:30 AM to 1:00 PM7:00 AM to 1:00 PM
Friday Afternoon1:30 PM to 7:00 PM1:00 PM to 7:00 PM
Friday Evening7:30 PM to 1:00 AM7:00 PM to 1:00 AM
Friday Overnight1:30 AM to 7:00 AM1:00 AM to 7:00 PM
Saturday Morning7:30 AM to 1:00 PM7:00 AM to 1:00 PM
Saturday Afternoon1:30 PM to 7:00 PM1:00 PM to 7:00 PM
Saturday Evening7:30 PM to 1:00 AM7:00 PM to 1:00 AM
Saturday Overnight1:30 AM to 7:00 AM1:00 AM to 7:00 PM
Sunday Morning8:30 AM to 2:00 PM8:00 AM to 2:00 PM
Sunday Afternoon

Volunteers may sign up for a number of shifts during the convention, which translates into Tier status. No volunteer should plan on volunteering for more than 8 slots. We want you to see the convention too! When filling out the Volunteer Questionnaire, please use the following chart to determine your Tier status.

Tier Status Chart

TierGMsHQ
Tier 18 Slots7 Slots
Tier 27 Slots6 Slots
Tier 36 Slots5 Slots
Tier 45 Slots4 Slots
Tier 54 Slots3 Slots
Tier 63 Slots2 Slots
Tier 72 Slots1 Slot
Tier 81 SlotN/A

Rewards are very similar to last year. Based on their tier, volunteers receive a variety of perks, including a free 4-Day Gen Con 2017 badge, 1/4 of a room at the Westin in downtown Indianapolis, a hardcover book, paizo.com store credit, and an exclusive tier-based boon (RPG) or reward (ACG). At this time, we are not sure which of the great books we are offering—too many great things coming off the presses. Once that is decided, I will let the volunteers know. Also, volunteers are given shirts every other year, based on the number of days they volunteer.

Volunteer Perk Chart

TierBadgeHotelBookT-ShirtsStore CreditBoon/Reward
1
Tier 2
Tier 3
Tier 4
Tier 5
Tier 6
Tier 7
Tier 8

We are putting the call out with the intent that we can let all prospective volunteers know their status before the Gen Con housing lottery goes live on February 12th, since housing in downtown Indianapolis is at a premium. As a side note, you need to have a badge to register for the housing. So if you volunteer as a Tier 3-4 volunteer and want housing downtown, you must purchase a GM badge from Gen Con and proceed to register for the lottery. When I receive our GM badge allocation, I will add a GM badge to your account and you may request a refund of the badge you purchased. This is the only way to access the housing lottery! For Tier 1-2 volunteers, I will send your housing information when our block is assigned in June.

Related to housing is roommate preference. To save my sanity when doing room assignments, volunteers may request either one roommate (to fill a bed) or three (to fill a room). It is imperative that roomies put each other on their questionnaire—so Bob lists Jon and Jon lists Bob and I put them in a room together. If you list someone that doesn't list you back, then I do not guarantee you will wind up in the same room. There is also a choice for "no preference". When assigning rooms, I tend to group like together. There is a Notes section of the questionnaire to supply more information. If there is anything I should take into consideration when placing you in a room, please add it here!

Summary (TL;DR)

  • Decide to volunteer—choose Tier based on charts above.
  • Ensure you have a Gen Con account (create at Gen Con Website)
  • Complete the Volunteer Questionnaire
  • Check your email for a letter confirming your volunteer status.

If you have any questions, send them via email to genconpfsvolunteer@paizo.com

For those looking to volunteer at PaizoCon, I'll be putting that call out in February.

Thank you to all our volunteers and players who make the Pathfinder Society so fantastic! The team and look forward to seeing you at Gen Con 50! Let's roll some dice!

Tonya Woldridge
Organized Play Coordinator

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Thea Peters wrote:
Gary Bush wrote:

Just as I expected, my confirmation came as soon as I left work.

Came at 5:25pm and Confirmed for Tier 1.

Just wondering what adjustments are made for Venture Captains.

Now to decide if I am going to fly or drive.

I will see you all there. I will be wearing a purple shirt. lololol

You only find out about the VC bump when you drink the kool-aid and join us

hops away chanting one of us, one of us, one of us

Bug Juice Thea, it's called Bug Juice :P

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Are we allowed to talk about that? :)

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5

Also got my approval email :D Super excited.

Horizon Hunters 4/5 5/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Indianapolis

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Tier 1 Confirmed, as well as Department Head for Demo Tables in both Sagamore and Exhibit hall. I'm gonna be busy!!!

Sovereign Court 4/5 * Organized Play Coordinator

Finished sending emails. If you haven't heard from me and filled in your questionnaire before 8 pm yesterday, please send me an email at genconpfsvolunteers@paizo.com so I can follow up.

Cheers!

Dark Archive 4/5 5/5 ****

Disciple of the Void wrote:
Gary Bush wrote:

It is all timing. I am pretty sure that everyone who stepped up initially will be accepted. Last year they had at least 2 more calls for volunteers. And even with that, at GenCon last year there was a Tier 1 spot open because of a last minute cancellation.

How does that work with hotels, anyway? Tier 1s are supposed to get rooms covered, but I'd guess a last-minute Tier 1 wouldn't get that.

And I'm on Central Time, so I don't know how that would affect the call-outs considering some people already have theirs.

I know for a fact that they still try and get you a spot as a friend volunteered less than 2 weeks to the show and got a spot.

Remember, if there is a cancellation a room opens

Shadow Lodge *

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

And...Tier 6 it is.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

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Two years ago, we were not able to make any room assignment changes after the "final" roster was submitted to GenCon. It meant that a few last minute replacement volunteers were not able to receive the room reward despite having a tier 1/2 schedule.

However, last year that was not the case. We were able to replace volunteers right up to the show including changes to the hotel reservations. Yes, its a chaotic process doing it on site, but it worked out. I can only assume the same goes for this year although I do not have confirmation either way.

That does NOT mean that you can/should wait until the last minute to volunteer and expect to get a room. If not for a few last minutes cancels last year, we were out of space. My advice is to get your application submitted ASAP. At this time we still have hotel space available, but that may not be the case, a day, a week, or a month from now.

The Exchange 1/5 5/5 ***

So excited! Tier 5 volunteer at my first GenCon! Really stoked that the 50th will be my 1st! Can't wait to meet and hopefully game with everyone!

4/5 ****

Not going to make it out this year. :(

Grand Lodge 3/5

Tier 6 this year, since I am coming with friends! May do Tier 1 again next year though and have it be alternating schedules.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Tier 1 GM Confirmed!

Now to start thinking about Minis and Terrain...

The Concordance 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Kansas City

Tier 6 confirmed and a 12:23 housing lottery time. Everything is proceeding as I have forseen... :D

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Awesome. My time is 2:32. 2 and half... We will see how that works out.

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Quinn Shannon wrote:

Tier 1 GM Confirmed!

Now to start thinking about Minis and Terrain...

Loved the props last year. I think Asmund kept some of the contraband. You know which....

12:18 lottery time. Shooting for the Westin.

1/5 5/5

Well, hopefully there'll be some closer rooms left, because I was 'gifted' with a *10:05PM* lottery time...

Silver Crusade 4/5

Yeah, my lottery time after 7 pm sucks, too.

1/5 5/5

Rumor has it that downtown rooms are already gone.

*sigh*

The Concordance 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Kansas City

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Rumor has it that downtown rooms are already gone.

*sigh*

Yeah, based on the various forums/FB groups I've watched, downtown is pretty solidly booked at this point.

Thankful to have snagged a spot at the Marriott.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

I am really interested in how this process worked this year, both technically and logistically. I know they were using a lottery of sorts to assign access times to book your rooms, but I was not aware it was still on a first come/first basis and that the rooms would be gone less than four hours into a program scheduled for 12+. If anyone has more insight, please give us an over-view. Thx

The Exchange 4/5 5/5

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Rumor has it that downtown rooms are already gone.

*sigh*

Not just a rumor. As of 5:15 EST, the airport was the closest you could get through the housing portal.

There are a few hotels offering rooms within walking distance (sometimes a long walk) NOT through the portal, but expect to pay $400+ per night.

The Exchange 4/5 5/5

Bob Jonquet wrote:
I am really interested in how this process worked this year, both technically and logistically. I know they were using a lottery of sorts to assign access times to book your rooms, but I was not aware it was still on a first come/first basis and that the rooms would be gone less than four hours into a program scheduled for 12+. If anyone has more insight, please give us an over-view. Thx

The first group to get access to the housing block (not including sponsors/exhibitors) was the VIGs (Very Important Gamers). Their housing was on a first come-first serve basis.

Housing availability dates
  • Renewing VIGs (Jan 29th) - first come first serve
  • New VIG program members (Feb 5th) - first come first serve
  • General ticket holders (Feb 12th) - lottery-assigned times starting at 1200 Eastern. You can access the housing portal any time after your assigned time but not before.

As I understand it the purpose of the lottery was both to reduce server stress from everyone trying to get "their" rooms the instant the portal opened (the same reason the event ticket purchase system just puts you in a queue rather than trying to process the requests of everyone who hits "go" at 12:00:01) and to give a more "fair" shot at the rooms to everyone. I'm not sure that second one succeeded.

Anecdotally (I don't have any inside confirmation on this) some of the skywalk hotels were out of double-bed rooms before the VIG housing registration ended.

For anyone wondering, the VIG program was $600 and the main benefits appear to be the early access to the housing portal, one hour exclusive access to the exhibitor hall on Thursday, and a dedicated Will Call/Registration area on site.

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Kevin Willis wrote:

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For anyone wondering, the VIG program was $600 and the main benefits appear to be the early access to the housing portal, one hour exclusive access to the exhibitor hall on Thursday, and a dedicated Will Call/Registration area on site.

I think they did away with the early access this year. Don't quote me on it though.

Even with my pre-12:30 time, I was only able to get into the Westin via a King room. Hope part of my crew doesn't change their minds or things might get a bit awkward.

1/5 5/5

The other horrific thing about VIG is that they don't let new folks sign up for it.

I actually tried the first couple of years and I guess I didn't make enough money/know who to... well.

Where would be the best part of Paizo Forums to put a 'room needed for GenCon' thread so as not to derail this thread, even though as a volunteer it does impact my ability to be in this thread?

3/5

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Where would be the best part of Paizo Forums to put a 'room needed for GenCon' thread so as not to derail this thread, even though as a volunteer it does impact my ability to be in this thread?

Probably, the GenCon forums. If you're trying to divide and conquer, I believe most people post GenCon stuff on the PFS general page.

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


The other horrific thing about VIG is that they don't let new folks sign up for it.

They switched to a lottery system for new people. In the October-November range, you can get your name added to a list and they draw for new VIG spots. Personally, it's not worth the price for me so I don't pay it much mind.

1/5 5/5

I trust the people on these forums more, though?

EDIT: Even more brilliant, the site appears to be *down*...

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
I trust the people on these forums more, though?

ahhh, that's sweet. Just don't turn you back on those cookies ;-)

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Bob Jonquet wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
I trust the people on these forums more, though?
ahhh, that's sweet. Just don't turn you back on those cookies ;-)

Wait.. cookies?

1/5 5/5

Bob Jonquet wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
I trust the people on these forums more, though?
ahhh, that's sweet. Just don't turn you back on those cookies ;-)

Welp, attempting to register experience says "DON'T TRY TO GO FOR MORE THAN THREE DAYS AND GET THERE BEFORE 1PM on registration day"

Seriously, is it that hard to get a week at a hotel these days?

Keeping an eye out, have a thread started with little hope over on the lesser forum.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

From what I saw last year keep an eye on the portal and GenCon forum.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Bob Jonquet wrote:
I am really interested in how this process worked this year, both technically and logistically. I know they were using a lottery of sorts to assign access times to book your rooms, but I was not aware it was still on a first come/first basis and that the rooms would be gone less than four hours into a program scheduled for 12+. If anyone has more insight, please give us an over-view. Thx

I had exactly the same experience this year as last year. My lottery time was 6+ hours past the start time, and there were no rooms available within 10 miles of the convention center when I logged in.

Last year, I just checked in to the housing portal several times per day in the last week or two before the deadline to cancel, and managed to snag a room at the Marriot across the street when someone gave it up. This year, more of my normal group of friends are going, and some of them got early lottery times and good rooms, so hopefully, I can bunk with them. Still coordinating the details.

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Just checked this morning. There is literally no in block housing for Friday night, anywhere, any room size. Everything else is by night and about 12 miles out.

Silver Crusade 4/5

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This is actually my biggest complaint about GenCon. The convention has outgrown the city. They need to move it somewhere with more hotel space.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Lots of discussion by people urging that course of action but from what people are saying, and taking what they as truth, there are limited areas that could handle a convention the size of GenCon. Chicago, Orlando, and Las Vegas are three I have seen.

Full debate is ongoing on the GenCon site and that is likely the best place to go to join that debate.

1/5 5/5

In the meantime...

Room/room-mate requirements if things come to a crunch:
Looking for room no further than five blocks from convention center with room-mate (two in a pinch) that bathe at least daily and bring clothes for every day. Heading down on Tuesday and back on Monday, willing to shoulder those days out of own pocket if needed.

I'm wondering if I'll get to HQ this year, or I'll end up back GMing. We'll see how it goes, right?

The Exchange 1/5 5/5 ***

Well, after all the stories so far on here, Im glad Im staying with friends just outside the city. I have no morning slots just for that purpose. Would be cool to stay close to the con but really doesn't seem worth the trouble.

3/5

Fromper wrote:
This is actually my biggest complaint about GenCon. The convention has outgrown the city. They need to move it somewhere with more hotel space.

Like New Orleans ;)

Since 2011, Indy has lost 1043 rooms (down 4.5%). I know people that don't go solely because of the hotel nightmare.

The Exchange 1/5 5/5 ***

Thought I read online that they had confirmed partnership with Indy through 2020.

3/5

Marc Waschle wrote:
Thought I read online that they had confirmed partnership with Indy through 2020.

I'm sure there are early termination provisions in the contract. If I had negotiated it, I would had included a provision for sufficient hotel space.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Three years ago, I was encouraged to try AirBnB to see if I could get something more affordable and/or closer to the convention center. It didn't work for me--ended up staying at a Motel 6 out by the airport (though that year GenCon had a shuttle system to hit the outlying hotels, so I only had to walk about .15 miles to get to the nearest shuttle stop). Don't know why they aren't continuing the shuttles--it was an extra cost that we had to pay, but I think I paid less than $150 for the Motel 6 room plus $50 for the shuttle, and it still was cheaper than almost any closer rooms I could find (and I had an early lottery time).

Anyway, back to topic, people could look on AirBnB and see if there's something available. Might be, might not be, but it's another resource.

This year, I'm a Tier 1, so I have my room all taken care of.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

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Robert Reine wrote:
Marc Waschle wrote:
Thought I read online that they had confirmed partnership with Indy through 2020.
I'm sure there are early termination provisions in the contract. If I had negotiated it, I would had included a provision for sufficient hotel space.

There might be a provision for it, or not, but if I were representing Indianapolis, I would fight very hard to keep it. If I recall correctly, Indianapolis makes more money the weekend of GenCon than they do any other time of the year, if not most of the rest of the year combined--with the possible exception of race weekend.

EDIT: Just based on a Google search, several articles say that GenCon 2015 brought in over $67 million in revenue to Indianapolis.

That kind of revenue stream is hard to ignore.

As for the suggestion for New Orleans, while I would love it if it was there, I am hesitant to agree. For one, New Orleans in August is very hot and muggy for those who aren't used to it. Hotter and more humid than Indy, for certain. Two, August is right around Hurricane season, and I would hate to tempt fate by gathering thousands in NOLA for another Camille or Katrina. Or, if one was to hit close enough, though early, I would hate to lose out on precious gaming time. Vegas or Chicago would probably be better from that standpoint--neither is close to where a late summer weather hazard would hit (other than heat, of course).

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Early August is normally ok for hurricanes. Late August, is more hit and miss. Heat is bad but we have so much more to offer than Indy (by the way, Im biased :) )

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Disciple of the Void wrote:
Robert Reine wrote:
Marc Waschle wrote:
Thought I read online that they had confirmed partnership with Indy through 2020.
I'm sure there are early termination provisions in the contract. If I had negotiated it, I would had included a provision for sufficient hotel space.

There might be a provision for it, or not, but if I were representing Indianapolis, I would fight very hard to keep it. If I recall correctly, Indianapolis makes more money the weekend of GenCon than they do any other time of the year, if not most of the rest of the year combined--with the possible exception of race weekend.

That kind of revenue stream is hard to ignore.

As for the suggestion for New Orleans, while I would love it if it was there, I am hesitant to agree. For one, New Orleans in August is very hot and muggy for those who aren't used to it. Hotter and more humid than Indy, for certain. Two, August is right around Hurricane season, and I would hate to tempt fate by gathering thousands in NOLA for another Camille or Katrina. Or, if one was to hit close enough, though early, I would hate to lose out on precious gaming time. Vegas or Chicago would probably be better from that standpoint--neither is close to where a late summer weather hazard would hit (other than heat, of course).

Back when Indiana passed their version of a religious liberty law and GenCon rattled their sabre over it, I think the amount was $50 million, plus or minus a couple million. I would not be surprised if it were higher than that.

There was a lot of talk/speculation/rumors about breaking the lease back then. GenCon also re-negotiated their lease of Lucas Oil Stadium right about this same time.

ETA: From what I have learned about location, it is important to the GEnCon staff that the con be within driving distance of the east coast.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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Can we please take discussion about Indy as future site to a different thread?

To that end, I have started a new thread called "Gen Con Future".

Here is the link Gen Con Future

Thanks.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Robert Reine wrote:
Early August is normally ok for hurricanes. Late August, is more hit and miss. Heat is bad but we have so much more to offer than Indy (by the way, Im biased :) )

I lived down in St. Bernard Parish for a year working with Camp Hope and Habitat for Humanity back in '07. It was one of the best years of my life. I'm planning on moving back in the next year or so. Believe me, from that point alone, I would be tickled pink if GenCon moved down to New Orleans. Turn it into a series of day-trips for me and I wouldn't have to worry about hotel costs.

But I remember that a lot of the other volunteers and out-of-state workers had problems with the heat and humidity, most notably a guy from New Hampshire who passed out while putting sheeting on the roof of a brand-new house.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea or even a game-breaker (pun intended). I'm saying that the weather is something that should be considered when making a decision.

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Now that the hotel lottery is over, if you did not "win" a room, remember that we still have tier 1 & 2 volunteer spots open for GenCon which earn you a complimentary quarter share of a hotel room at one of the nearby attached hotels. But don't wait too long. They usually go relatively fast and being on a wait list to see if you can attend the show can be stressful

The Exchange 4/5 Owner - D20 Hobbies

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Rumor has it that downtown rooms are already gone.

*sigh*

They were gone at 2:22 pm when my slot landed except JW marriot had King (no doubles).

I never have trouble getting a room at DragonCon with 77,000 attendees and always have trouble with GenCon.

I have a King JW I'd rather have a double, but I doubt I can find a trade partner.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

I've heard that sometimes there are other events in the area at the same time. A car show (or was it a bike rally?) a couple of years back is one. Apparently, because hotels were at a premium, those participants found it economical to buy a Gen Con badge despite not intending to attend just to gain access to the hotel block. Dunno if that is still happening

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