Awesome, i really like Padrig, and the gargantuan red dragon looks vicious!
This has got to be one of my favorite sets so far, there are so many interesting creatures in it, that i am looking forward to.
Question to Eric* Do you still plan to add the Derakni demon in a future set? I remember a post back in Wrath of the Righteous previews where it was said that the Locust Demon accidentally took the place of Derakni demon in that set, and that you planned to include him in a future set.
Would really love to see that creature made it into a set.
Wish a great time to all that can manage to go to PaizoCon, i will eagerly await for Dungeons Deep to release next month.
Cheers!
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Sorry but i´m not thrilled about these (to me) obsolete miniatures.
I don´t want to buy the Iconic Heroes 3 Box (which i will) in may and find 2 of the included miniatures a few weeks later looking ALMOST THE SAME in some Dungeons Deep booster!
I imagine it was planned long ago to include these miniatures (to complete the APG characters) in this set of Pathfinder Battles but it would have been better to cut them and replace them with something else.
It probably could´nt be done on time and so we get them twice.
To sell that as a good thing is inappropriate.
I could understand it if they looked different - Imrijka the half-orc inquisitor is a good example as she has a very different pose in her Wrath of the Righteous incarnation than in the Iconic Heroes 3 one - even if a melee weapon would have been better.
Also the pose of the Gargantuan Red Dragon is really bad - it looks as it is attacking something OVER him and that should not be the case.
The Shemhazian Demon is much more massive like a real Gargantuan creature and costs $10 less so why the price increase?
I think i´ll pass on the case.
Most of the other minis from this set look great though.
Now only one Dungeon Dressing is missing.
Have fun at Paizo Con! ;-)
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I also find it odd to see Balazar and Padrig in this set and the latest iconics set. I assume, as Marco eluded, the decision was made some time back to include them in this set. Of course its only 2 rares in the set so it doesn't have a great impact. On the plus side both look good - I'm assuming these are paint masters though.
As a counterpoint to one of the comments above I find myself liking that Dragon more and more with each reveal, mind you I loved the promise the digital sculpt held anyway. The pose to me looks like the classic "roaring to the heavens before I swat the annoying little folk". What makes it better for me is the uniformity with the small to huge we got in the evolution pack, a set I wish we could have seen more of - still need the blue, green and black.
Marco is right that leaves only one piece of dungeon decor to be revealed, so with that in mind let me say well done on this set. Take pride in the work Erik, this set is exceptional. Now I just have the impatient run to the actual release.
With PaizoCon around the corner are we liekly to hear any word on the future of the battles line. Obviously the next set is a little way off yet but I'm keen to hear about the next iconics or other planned sets - Evolution? Huge? Themed packs?
LOL passing on the set because of three minis.
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.
If I may be so bold: When you're done, pal, just give me a call. I'm ready! =7
I know there's no pleasing anyone, but given how confident I am that you share the same collecting bug that we do (one of us, ONE OF US!!!) and have at least as long a list as any of us has of minis we still want to see, I imagine it would be hard to walk away.
So, have we done Gargantuan minis of all the chromatics now? If so, any chance we'll see some Gargantuan Metallics up next? Cause I sure would love to see a Gargantuan Silver and a Gargantuan Gold. ^_~
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LOL passing on the set because of three minis.
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.
I said "I think i´ll pass on the case." because i don´t like that dragon enough to pay $50 for it.
I WILL buy one or two bricks like i have been doing since "Heroes and Monsters".
Also i like the Balazar and Padrig minis but not enough to have 2 almost identical versions of them. ;-)
Subscribe to the case, and pay a lot less than $50 for the dragon!
So, have we done Gargantuan minis of all the chromatics now? If so, any chance we'll see some Gargantuan Metallics up next? Cause I sure would love to see a Gargantuan Silver and a Gargantuan Gold. ^_~
Sorry there is still a gargantuan black to make.
If you take into account the shipping delays and whatever voodoo witchcraft is going on over at Wizkids, you'll see these Balazars weren't meant to come out so close to one another. The Iconic Heroes Set #3 was originally announced as a March release. That means that had everything been on time, there would have been a 2+ month gap between each piece, not the much closer 2+ weeks.
Also, @Marco:
How do you figure that Erik promoting the Battles line Balazar is inappropriate? If it's some sort of cash-grab trick as you seem to imply it is, then it's a flawed one. Promoting the Battles case Balazar over the Iconics Hero version indirectly suggests to pass on the Iconics Hero set. And while theoretically more money could be made by going for the Battles case over the Iconics Set, nobody is going to base their decision to plunk down $300+ on a case on the quality (or preference) of one individual miniature.
This isn't Sideshow Collectibles, where they make a billion different variants based on one character or sculpt.
For the record, I love this Red Dragon pose. He's grounded (my favorite) but still dynamic in appearance. For my purposes, he's looking up above him at the Ranger archer that has taken high ground. I've never been in a battle with a gargantuan dragon where one of the fighters fails to take the high ground.
Marco does bring up a good point about the $10 increase. That is a 25% increase over the cost of the previous gargantuan piece.
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Now that we've got the Core and APG Iconics, how about some love for Reiko and Hayato? I'd love to see the Ninja and Samurai get their day in the sun.
Balazar and Padrig look cool, but as a GM I would have rather rounded out the list of UC pregens. Still super excited for the set, and here's hoping for the next one!
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I don't think there's a pregen version of the summoner for PFS, but I hope they make one so this set can hit the table more often. . Those are some pretty cool minis. I'm really digging this whole battles set and I think its convinced us to get a subscription. Love the dragon and can't wait to see more dungeon decor
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One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.
Well that's just great. What about ME, Erik? Who's going to pick miniatures for me then? Did you think about that? Huh?
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LOL passing on the set because of three minis.
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.
I said "I think i´ll pass on the case." because i don´t like that dragon enough to pay $50 for it.
I WILL buy one or two bricks like i have been doing since "Heroes and Monsters".
Also i like the Balazar and Padrig minis but not enough to have 2 almost identical versions of them. ;-)
Yeah, never mind me. Those are legitimate gripes. I was just really grumpy earlier today.
Happily, I just got out of Mad Max a few minutes ago, and I am now cured.
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Now that we've got the Core and APG Iconics, how about some love for Reiko and Hayato? I'd love to see the Ninja and Samurai get their day in the sun.
They're coming in the Iconic Heroes sets.
As for the ACG iconics being in this set instead of Balazar, to be honest with you I'm not 100% certain they even existed when we built the set list for this set.
The lead times on these things are craaaaaazy.
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One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.Well that's just great. What about ME, Erik? Who's going to pick miniatures for me then? Did you think about that? Huh?
I'm building a set list in about two weeks.
Give me a suggestion you know we have cool art for, and if I agree I'll try to sneak it in.
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Now that we've got the Core and APG Iconics, how about some love for Reiko and Hayato? I'd love to see the Ninja and Samurai get their day in the sun.
They're coming in the Iconic Heroes sets.
As for the ACG iconics being in this set instead of Balazar, to be honest with you I'm not 100% certain they even existed when we built the set list for this set.
The lead times on these things are craaaaaazy.
Cool! Thanks for the response! I'm glad to hear Reiko and Hayato will have their chance to shine. I'm not as worried about the ACG iconics, they're still new, they'll get theirs. Thanks again!
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.Well that's just great. What about ME, Erik? Who's going to pick miniatures for me then? Did you think about that? Huh?I'm building a set list in about two weeks.
Give me a suggestion you know we have cool art for, and if I agree I'll try to sneak it in.
You're awesome, Erik.
I'm in Thailand for a week, but I'm going to take you up on this when I get back to my books! :)
Now that we've got the Core and APG Iconics, how about some love for Reiko and Hayato? I'd love to see the Ninja and Samurai get their day in the sun.
They're coming in the Iconic Heroes sets.
As for the ACG iconics being in this set instead of Balazar, to be honest with you I'm not 100% certain they even existed when we built the set list for this set.
The lead times on these things are craaaaaazy.
I'm building a set list in about two weeks.
Give me a suggestion you know we have cool art for, and if I agree I'll try to sneak it in.
So, you're probably building the set list for the December 2016 release ...
Here are a few suggestions ...
Someone with a bastard sword.
Rust Monster (bestiary 238)
A wolf, lion, or cheetah with armor but no saddle to represent an animal companion
An elf with an Elven Curvedblade
The Hunter iconic with it's wolf
Just My Thoughts
My suggestions for new mini:
Monster - Pactmaster
Humanoid - Chelaxian soldier(s)
Grassk Uldeth (I probably botched the spelling; the biggest baddest orc in Belkzen)
A cleric of one of the good or neutral deities (plenty of good illustrations of Calistrians, for instance).
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Happily, I just got out of Mad Max a few minutes ago, and I am now cured.
It's damned good isn't it? Way out there but very entertaining. Did you like the Doof Wagon?
As for not doing this. You just wait until you've completed all the minis I desire, although admittedly this set knocks a few of those off, well a lot really. For the next set let me just say two words - Red Mantis. The artwork from inner sea codex is good, at least I think it was that, the one with the fully dressed female standing in the Crimson mist. Now I'll have to go check. Maybe four more words- small and large Spriggan.
It's damned good isn't it? Way out there but very entertaining. Did you like the Doof Wagon?
Happily, I just got out of Mad Max a few minutes ago, and I am now cured.
Pulse pounding! I ended up buying the OST which I rarely do. A great action film.
Dungeon's Deep will be my third Pathfinder Battles set. I am really looking forward to it.
I suspect part of what Eric needs is a page number (like you did with the rust monster) because they very, very rarely make minis without their being original artwork (Up until this set, I don't think they had at all, but DD has a few in it).
Giant Mantis from the cover of Reign of Winter: The Snows of Summer
Plant Eidolon on page 25 of Heroes of the Wild
Machine Soldier on page 10 of Trial by Machine (I'm sure it's elsewhere)
Female Monk from Can't remember what book
ANY of the ACG Iconics.
More GIANTS!
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.Well that's just great. What about ME, Erik? Who's going to pick miniatures for me then? Did you think about that? Huh?I'm building a set list in about two weeks.
Give me a suggestion you know we have cool art for, and if I agree I'll try to sneak it in.
Kyton, Interlocutor p 174 bestiary 3
Yah-thelgaad p 90 valley of the brain collector AP 88Phantom Armor p 213 Bestiary 4
How about an underdark set with the various creatures who dwell in the sunless world below ground. A couple of drow (not too many though), duergar, svirfneblin, hook horrors, cave fishers, could put more aberrations in there (from the depths of the earth, where the magic is oldest).
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It's good to see Balazar and Padrig; the Summoner was one of the more interesting concepts to come out of the APG.
I suspect we won't see multiple sculpts for Padrig at different sizes, but that's understandable for a niche figure, and I can always cobble one or two together in my converting laboratory.
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I suspect part of what Eric needs is a page number (like you did with the rust monster) because they very, very rarely make minis without their being original artwork (Up until this set, I don't think they had at all, but DD has a few in it).
Giant Mantis from the cover of Reign of Winter: The Snows of Summer
Plant Eidolon on page 25 of Heroes of the Wild
Machine Soldier on page 10 of Trial by Machine (I'm sure it's elsewhere)
Female Monk from Can't remember what bookANY of the ACG Iconics.
More GIANTS!
That monk is from the article on Irori in Jade Regent, Book 5. I don't know if she reappears in Inner Sea Gods.
I'll be back with more info/mini ideas. ^_^
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LOL passing on the set because of three minis.
One day, I won't be doing this anymore, and a part of me will be very relieved.
I said "I think i´ll pass on the case." because i don´t like that dragon enough to pay $50 for it.
I WILL buy one or two bricks like i have been doing since "Heroes and Monsters".
Also i like the Balazar and Padrig minis but not enough to have 2 almost identical versions of them. ;-)
Yeah, never mind me. Those are legitimate gripes. I was just really grumpy earlier today.
Happily, I just got out of Mad Max a few minutes ago, and I am now cured.
No hard feelings Eric. :-)
I read great reviews and have said it has the best visual trailer i´ve seen in a long time. I will watch it on tuesday.
I realize you probably only meant Steve Geddes with your offer but i´ll throw in my 2 cents too:
1 Ankheg (Bestiary Box art) large
2 Cockatrice (Bestiary art) small
3 Coloxus Demon (Bestiary 3 or Wrath of the Righteous interior art) med
4 Demon Lord, Kostchtchie (Book of the Damned Vol. 2 Lords of Chaos interior art) large
5 Devil, Erinyes (Bestiary or Daughters of Fury Module cover) med flying
6 Dragon, Imperial Sovereign (Jade Regent AP#54: The empty Throne interior art) large flying
7 Drow (Second Darkness AP#13, 15, 16 & 18 cover art)
8 Giant, Cave (Bestiary 3 or giantslayer AP#91 cover art) large
9 Golem, Flesh (Classic Horrors Revisited interior art or Carrion Crown AP#44 cover art) large
10 Pony (Bestiary) medium
11 Lykanthrophe, Werebat (Blood of the Night interior art)
12 Nightmare (Carrion Crown AP#47 Ashes at Dawn page 6)
13 Giant Octopus (Bestiary) large
14 Red Mantis Assassin (Inner Sea World Guide interior art)
15 Rust Monster (Bestiary) medium
16 Skullripper (Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition Bestiary art)
17 Urdefhan (Serpents Skull AP#41 The thousand fangs below interior art) medium
18 Vargouille (Bestiary)
19 Vegepygmy (Bestiary)
20 Vermin, Giant Ant Soldier (real ant photo) medium
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Just so Steve doesn't feel like he gets all the fun. Here are some of the art pieces I think would make great minis and have enough to actually make good art references.
Ilee, distant worlds, page 46. Out there and difficult but very creepy
Baragara, bestiary 3, p34
Kyton interlocutor, bestiary 3, p174
Troll hound, bestiary 3, p274. Sadly I'm not sure the art is that good for sculpting from
Manacielo gremlin, bestiary 4, p144
Sacristan Kyton, bestiary 4, p177
Tooth fairy, bestiary 4, p262. Creepy, and somewhat oddball fey. Great art.
Bugbear tyrant, NPC codex, p27
Fire giant queen, NPC codex, p32
Pugwampi gremlin, bestiary 2, p144. THE single most annoying creature ever.
Qlippoth cythinigot, bestiary 2, p 221. Seriously creepy
Morgh, bestiary, p208. Give is almost transparent purple innards and I think it would be a winner.
Male drider, the inner sea would guide, p61. Perfect reinvention of the drider and a perfect dark echo of the females already out there.
Knight of abendego, the inner sea world guide, p177
Thin man, inner sea bestiary, p52. It's a fey! Creepy too.
Shadow giant, inner sea bestiary, p15. I know we've had a LOT of giants but these just exude evil and cool in equal measure.
Death whisperer, NPC Codex, p158
God Stealer, NPC codex, p207.
Chaos arrow, NPC codex, p 203.
Red mantis assassin, inner sea NPC codex, p 47
Thanks.
To be honest, I would post my suggestions but the list is so long as to be silly.
I will trust you, Erik, to select for us. :-)
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Yeah, I also figured it was for Steve only. That said, I suppose offering my opinion can't hurt. ^_^
As before, Lady Andaisin (AP #8, pg. 55)
Red Mantis Assassin, male (based on existing mini)
Red Mantis Assassin, female (Inner Sea NPC Codex, pg. 47)
Red Mantis Commander (AP #39, cover image)
Sabina Merrin (AP #7, pg. 25)
Laori Vaus (AP #9, pg. 19)
Radvir Giovanni (AP #47, pg. 40)
Eccardian Drovenge (AP #30, cover image)
Tetisurah (AP #81, cover image)
Erinyes (Bestiary, pg. 75)
Kyton evangelist (Bestiary, pg. 185)
Vanth psychopomp (AP #47, pg. 88)
Strix (Advanced Race Guide, pg. 200)
Aldori Swordlord (Inner Sea NPC Codex, pg. 4)
Old Ones Cultist (Inner Sea NPC Codex, pg. 41)
Priest of Razmir (Inner Sea World Guide, pg. 161)
Gray Gardener (Inner Sea World Guide, pg. 73)
Each of these is either likely to be relevant multiple times during an Adventure Path, as well as useful outside it; OR, is generally useful; OR fills a relevant niche (such as wielding a specific weapon).
Regarding the Red Mantis, if the paint job can be done simply enough, I'd like to see multiple, similar to the Grey Maidens from Shattered Star or the Lamashtu cultists. Two low-rarity and a rare "commander", ideally.
Thank you for reading this. ^_^
I'll probably give the Dungeon Deep summoner and eidolon to my nephew or a friend and keep the iconic versions for myself. Or, vice versa. Either way, I'm still very excited for both DD and Iconic Heroes 3.
Bestiary 3 has some monsters and art I'd love to see as minis in an upcoming set:
River Drake - A medium flying creature that can terrorize lower level characters. I've used river drakes in two different scenarios with low level PCs and received good feedback both times. They're excellent in random wilderness encounters. I think the mini would look great too, as the art shows the creature with bold, distinct features that would stand out in miniature form. I think there has been 4 drakes so far, all large. A medium would be welcome.
Suli - The fire erupting from the man's forearms in translucent plastic would look spectacular. It would be a useful mini as well, pulling double duty as a player character or as a baddie.
And I know it's an incredible long shot:
Tzitzimitl - Seriously. A flying, 50 foot tall, stone covered skeleton with translucent purple plastic gas and lightning effects would be the most amazing promo yet. I think it would stand a bit taller than the white dragon gargantuan.
Honestly, if you fine people at Paizo put out a line of huge, gargantuan and colossal monster miniatures I'd be all over it. Imagine, linnorms, imperial, primal and outer dragons, bandersnatch, xacarba....
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Those are the ones I really wanna see in prepainted plastic.
I want to second the Large and Small spriggans; that would be SO helpful.
And I also can't believe we've never seen a Red Mantis in prepainted plastic yet. That's crazy. My favorite would be Chivane, the sexy elf mantis leader from the cover of the 3rd Serpent's Skull adventure.
And I'll make my regular plea for a shocker lizard, too :-)
Hm. Still not liking the dragon's looks; its neck-to-head proportions are weird.
Padrig's looking cool, though - I might pick him up as a single.
Ruyan.
I'd like to see some more minion type creatures like:
4. Female orc Scout (monster codex pg. 169)
That would be great. Paizo has made some of the best looking PPM orcs, but no one has ever made a full-blooded female orc. It would be great to have a couple female orc minis. Not all female orcs are relegated to a breeder role :)
Ilka, on page 19 of Daughter's Fury would also be a great looking orc female mini.