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For the record, my order started to finalize today. I received a notice that part of my order was shipping out. Indeed, it has been split.

It's also worth pointing out that when I added up the Subtotal, Sales Tax, and Shipping, the total was actually $5.65 more than the total that was listed. As far as I can tell, this $5.65 was the cost to ship that one book separately.

I created a new thread down below, but I'm posting here because I saw a bunch of people that had their order split; those of you that did might want to go check to see if it added an extra shipping cost. You might have to do the math yourself, despite what the listed order total says on the page.


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My order contained 3 items:
Pathfinder Adventure Path #154
Pathfinder Adventure Path #155
Pathfinder Bestiary 2
Subtotal: $77.47
Estimated Sales Tax: $5.24
Shipping & Handling: $7.89
That SHOULD be an order total of $90.60

Instead, the order shows $96.25

I realized this was because for some reason the order was split into two shipments, AP#155 and then AP#154 & the Bestiary 2. This split order appears to have added an additional $5.65 to the order.

I posted about this in the May shipping thread a week back, but decided to wait and see if it was fixed once the order was finalized.

Today I received an email that Pathfinder Adventure Path #154 was shipping out, separate from the rest. So apparently nothing has been fixed. With orders already shipping out I know they obviously can't be shipped together, to save that extra $5.65. But I at least wanted to make you aware that there are still problems with the system.

Thanks for your time!


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For Paizo Customer Service,

The good news is my order spawned, and the three things (Bestiary 2, AP #154, AP #155) all were included. And the Bestiary 2 digital charge was not, so that's wonderful.

Still, a couple important things and a question:

1. The bug is still there that prevents the system from pulling the full order amount (tax included) from the store credit. I don't think it will be a problem for my order this time around, as the card I put on file for my subscriptions has more than enough to cover the shipping charge. But I thought it important you know that particular bug still needs squashed.

2. While I'm thrilled the order itself spawned and appears to be playing nice with my card, my three book order was split up into two separate shipments. Instead of including all three books for the $8+ in shipping that was foreshadowed, it sent out two books with a $7.89 shipping fee as one shipment and the other, singular book with a $5.65 shipping fee.

My question is...Was this an oversight, or is this just the new normal with shipping? It added nearly $5 toward my shipping cost, with three books totaling $13.54 in shipping and handling. That seems...excessive.

Thank you in advance.


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Thanks for looking into it and getting back to me.

For whatever reason, it declined the order yesterday and again this morning. It did this despite indicating it had applied full store credit-including the tax this time-to the order. I'm not sure what the issue was this time around, but I really hope it goes through or you can force it through before order spawning starts tomorrow (on Thursday).

Speaking of order spawns, I used a completely new card to purchase more than enough store credit to cover me for May's shipment (including the Adventure Path from April). So with regards to having enough store credit for the coming order spawn, I'm set.

Also, after that purchase, I went in and made the card I used for the store credit the new payment method for March's subscription order, 18576373. This SHOULD work, given that I just used it on store credit. March's order is currently Pending, again, as I type this; but I'm hoping it will come through tonight or early tomorrow. Once it does, I'll set it as the new payment method for all my subscriptions going forward.

Thanks so much!


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Dear Paizo,

A few things:

1. The $14.44 in store credit has disappeared from my account. From rummaging around it appears it's been charged to another order, Order 12656259, despite the fact that order had been suspended. Can one you kind customer service folks please officially cancel out that order and add the $14.44 of store credit back into my account. Again, that's Order 12656259. Thank you very much.

2. Have you fixed the system issue where even if you have the full amount of store credit, the system tries to charge the card listed for tax instead of pulling it out of the store credit? After two months (January and February) of dealing with this issue, it happened again in March. And it's been holding up that order (Order 18576373) ever since.

3. Whether you have it fixed or not, could somebody please push through Order 18576373? It's from back in March. Customer Service told me the tech team was working on it, but I haven't heard anything about it since then. I understand the Covid-19 virus has thrown everyone into chaos, but I certainly would appreciate some sort of response or update on that front, even if there is little or nothing to tell.

4. On April 7th, I asked for my future orders to be suspended, starting with the April spawn, until the issue with the system was able to be fixed. (And Virginia J. did respond on April 8th confirming it was suspended). I didn't want to deal with the April order until the March order problem was fully cleared up (and maybe shipped, depending on how your warehouse was operating; shipment itself isn't my major concern). My reasoning was because I didn't want to buy more store credit to fully cover April's order until I knew the spawn would finally pull the tax from said store credit and not charge the card. I didn't want to have multiple orders still trying to charge my card and thus stuck in perpetual Pending/Declined status.

5. Whether the actual system bug has been fixed or not, I don't want to hold things up any longer. If it doesn't look like things can or will get fixed on your end, it makes sense for me to change things on my end. I've added another card as a payment method that has enough money on it to cover the shipping for the March order (18576373) and the eventual April order (it's just the one Adventure Path). As soon as the March subscription order is pushed through and the separate order (12656259) mentioned above is cancelled out with the $14.44 in store credit returned to my account, I'll purchase the necessary remaining store credit for my April order spawn.

6. Somebody will have to reactivate my suspended subscriptions for all this to happen. And you have my permission to do that.

7. I will point out that when I added the new card just now as the payment method to the March Order 18576373, it tried to charge the whole thing ($24.33) to the card; it didn't even take into account the $23.14 in store credit that had already been applied to the order back when it first spawned. So you'll have to add back the $23.14 in store credit (in addition to the $14.44 from the order mentioned above) before it can charge the card for the $1.19 tax amount. I hope this makes sense.

8. Once those orders are finished I can buy the necessary store credit for this month of May and we should be back on track for the May 7th order spawn. Hopefully that bug will be fixed by next week, but there should be enough left on that payment method to handle the tax on May's order spawn if necessary.

9. Feel free to call me at the number listed in my account info, if you need to contact me. It might make for a more smooth transaction process.

10. Thanks for all you've been doing; please stay safe and enjoy your Friday.


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My March Subscription Order, #18576373, is still on hiatus. At this point, my concern isn't the book or PDF, rather that the bug in your system is still there. When processing the order, it appears the website refuses to pull out the tax from my store credit--despite my account being set up to use any store credit first. As you can see if you are able to pull up the order #, it's still trying to charge the $1.19 to the listed card, instead of pulling from the $14.44 I still have in credit.

I was hoping the bug would have been squashed prior to order spawning for April, but it doesn't look like that is going to be the case. I said in my last post about this issue, about three weeks ago, that I'd prefer to suspend my subscriptions starting this month if the bug wasn't fixed. I know it's an easy, 30-second fix once the order process actually fails and a customer service member goes in to the account manually. But until the bug in the system itself is fixed I just don't see the point of continuing with my orders; they will continue to fail and it gets frustrating having to deal with this every month.

Either way, at this point it doesn't matter. I don't have quite enough store credit left to cover the April subscription. I'd love to buy more store credit, but I use Visa or MasterCard pre-paid gift cards to purchase the Paizo store credit. To buy those pre-paids I must use my checkbook, and I can only do that at a store in-person. (It appears I can't use PayPal to buy pre-paid Visa or MasterCard gift cards online). I'm blessed to be in a position right now where I don't have to go into a store (or anywhere public for work) during this Covid-19 outbreak; I plan to take full advantage of that as long as I can.

So please put a hold on all my subscriptions. I plan to pick them up as soon as your team can fix the bug in the system that's causing the problem, and as soon as things get safe enough for me to enter a store again without fear so I can buy a pre-paid to purchase enough Paizo credit for April.

Thank you in advance.


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Sounds good to me.

I'd like to point out that the tax bug--where the system doesn't charge my store credit for tax on an order, thus leaving a Declined status and holding up payment/shipment--still seems to be an issue. As I mentioned in my post in the forum about it, I'm in no rush for the book (or PDF, even), but I'd love to see that bug get patched up. I'm not sure when the next official spawning date will end up being, but at this rate I'm considering just putting all my subscriptions on indefinite hold until the bug is fixed. It's a bit frustrating to deal with the same issue each month and have my subscription (and PDF's) held up in the process.


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Joan H. wrote:

Hi Pigraven,

I looked into your order and our tech team is looking into it now! They may not have a resolution right away but just wanted you to know it's on their radar. Once they have had a chance to see what the underlying cause is, I'll fix that up for you. Thanks for your patience!

No problem. Now more than ever it's a "it'll get fixed when it gets fixed" sort of thing. The key for me is knowing it's on their radar.

Y'all take care!


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I only have the one item (Adventure Path) in my cart. For the second month in a row, it appears that the system has charged my store credit the appropriate amount for the item itself. However, for whatever reason it refuses to also charge the cost of shipping to my store credit, and thus my order has come up declined. It's not a matter of insufficient funds, as I still have $14.00+ in store credit available.

It's just the one book for me this month. Like most others, I don't need it in any hurry--I primarily do in-person play only, and I've suspended them indefinitely. In other words, it's not a pressing matter by any means, and others should definitely come first.

For the record, Diego was kind enough to help me out last month via phone, and it didn't even take more than minute or two. But he was at the actual building, so that might play a role.

Long term outlook: You all obviously have bigger fish to fry at the moment. But this is the second time in two months the same issue has happened on my account, so there is definitely a bug. It's something for the tech folks to take a look into whenever they catch a breather from other, more pressing issues.

Thanks in advance for the time and effort put into this matter.

Please take care and stay as safe as humanly possible.


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To the fine Customer Service folks, it looks like there is an issue with my order again this month, as it is coming up declined. I did send an email a couple days ago so I don't plan on making a new thread below. I chose to mention it here just for the sake that it's a bit of weird issue I haven't yet seen.


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
Now that Wizkids have announced their product, nothing keeps Paizo from doing their minis blogs.
It's true that WizKids' announcement means our window to talk about the set is now open... but unfortunately, the two people who would be best prepared to write that blog aren't available to do so. We're discussing possible solutions.

Obviously staying in-house is always a solution, provided you can find the right person.

Should you choose to go outside the box and tap someone not directly employed by Paizo, I suggest either the gentlemen from the Gallant Goblin YouTube videos or the gentleman who runs the Minisgallery site. (I want to say Berk The Black on these boards and theirs).

Gallant Goblin has raised the bar to all new levels when it comes to miniature reviews. It's an opinion I feel many others share. Their pre-release product reviews of both your miniatures offerings and those from competitors have single-handedly persuaded me to buy the products in question. Their videos do a great job of showing the miniatures as most people will see them around the table, and maybe a little closer. Most pictures I've seen from retailers are super close-ups that often make them look far worse than they are once I get them in my hand.

If I'm not mistaken Paizo has previously had some experience with Gallant Goblin. If it's still a healthy working relationship, you could take this opportunity to expand on it. Perhaps send them the relevant information and renders. They should easily be able to do a few videos showing off those renders. One great feature they've been including in their actual miniature reviews has been packing each video full of relevant information about the pieces in the sets. It wouldn't hurt to have a preview video that talked about each creature and character a little bit. Finding relevant stat information would be very customer friendly; it might even convince a few extra viewers to pick up the source material. And while such information was sometimes included in the descriptions for past sets here in the blog section, it too often was not.

If such an approach is taken, Gallant Goblin could post the videos on their site and you folks here at Paizo could post non-YouTube versions of those same videos in a blog section here at the same time.

Alternatively, you could go with the Minisgallery man himself, should he have the time and desire. He's been keeping the miniature collectors together for so long with his Gallery, and most recently the Forum Discussion.

Finally, as Marco stated, he'd do it for free. And there are few people on the boards as helpful in other subject as Marco has been when it comes to miniatures.


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My order was also resolved. Thank you so much Sarah, Diego and everyone else on the CS team.


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I'm assuming the Core Rulebook and Bestiary in this line are still First-Printings w/o any of the Errata?


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Sounds good.

I noticed that most recently, the numbers on my order were zeroed out except for the appropriate store credit. Even the payment method was cleared. I've seen it look like that before, and usually it goes through shortly after that happens. The status is currently Pending again, though it does show that on Saturday it was declined. Of course, that Decline could have come before the system was most recently maneuvered (as it doesn't show me the times).

I'll be eager to see how things turn out today. I've got what I need for more store credit to cover Thursday's spawning period and beyond, though I'm holding off on purchasing it until January's order is sorted out.

Good luck to you and team today. It sounds like you've got enough challenges to keep you quite busy!


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Sara Marie wrote:

Folks, Will let me know that they've shipped the subs that automatically came up. They've got folks coming in tomorrow to work on additional orders. I haven't been able to check on my end what unfulfilled orders for subs look like, but will let the folks who will be in tomorrow know that there are clearly some orders that should be kicking out when they pick orders.

~sara

Sounds good. I've got my fingers crossed.


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Jib916 wrote:

Is something wacky going on with the people who use store credit for there subs? I saw some similar things in some other of the customer service forums so it had me wondering.

I use store credit. Any others in the same boat?

Yes. I use store credit, too.

I don't use a credit card for purchasing store credit, instead I use those Pre-paid Visa or MasterCard gift cards. That part is fine, and goes off without an issue.

You still have to put a card on file, though, and I use the pre-paid card as a fill-in. And that SHOULD be okay. But in practice, even though I have more than enough store credit to cover my order, it tries to ping the Pre-Paid card first. And because it's a pre-paid card and I've already used most of the amount to buy the store credit, when it pings and charges the card it automatically fails. At least I think that is what has been happening.

It's been an problem for awhile now. This is my fourth or fifth month in a row where there was an issue. Granted, one was my fault because I forgot to grab the store credit before order spawning that month. But the reality is it probably doesn't matter and I'm sure it would have been messed up anyways. Customer Service rep Diego has helped me a few times over the last year. He says that in theory as long as I have enough store credit to cover the cost of the order, it should ALWAYS pull from that first (like it says it will) and not worry about the card.

It's also possible that the issue stems from it taking so long (sometimes more than 10 days) to actually charge the source. So even if I have enough money to cover, maybe if it doesn't get to charging the order within those ten days, it has to start the process over again. I don't know.

Most recently, I purchased store credit back before the order spawned for January. Everything was fine, and the order was pending. But then I noticed a bunch of PaizoCon Exclusive Miniatures had gone up for sale, so I purchased a bunch. I charged the order to the Pre-Paid Visa card, which still had enough money on it to cover the cost. I set the order to ship individually, and NOT with my subscription order. Sure, I was going to pay for shipping twice, basically, but at least I was going to keep the orders separate. (Or so I thought).

However, a day later, the Subscription order (using store credit) merged both my orders into one order as my January tried to spawn. (Despite my explicitly setting it not to do this). And while overall I had more than enough to cover everything (between card and store credit), it immediately tried to pull the entire total from the store credit. But I didn't have enough of just the store credit (because it was only supposed to handle my two subscription items). And because I'd used the same pre-paid card as my temporary fill in, it then tried to charge the card. But because I'd already actually used the card for that $40.88 order of miniatures, it was sort of "set aside" or whatever it's called. So it automatically failed.

At least, I think that's what happened at that point. Diego helped fix it last Thursday. (Or so we thought). He added enough credit back to cover the order. Everything looked good. That night it appeared to take the appropriate amount of store credit out, but it also automatically declined payment. And I think that's because, again, the system made it ping the card first instead of (or in addition to) taking it from the store credit only.

He just fixed it again about an hour or so back. But not only has everyone left, but I noticed the whole thing appears to have automatically declined again. Which means it's still touching the card when it isn't supposed to be doing that.

That last part, as I've said, has happened before. And usually they have to manually push the entire thing through.

So...that's my story.

I have to admit, I feel like I'm coming to the end. I've been a subscriber since 2014, and I've never had this many problems on a consistent basis. Add in all the problems everyone else is having, and the backlog of emails that grew to over 500+ by mid-week, and it's all just very frustrating.

I'm not typically someone that needs everything on release day. I run four 2e campaigns, but I use my own worlds (usually). I like getting the AP to read through, though. And everything else I can use at my table as it comes. Even if it my subscription doesn't ship until release day, I can always grab the PDF. But usually I just wait for it to show up at my door, and use the Archives if necessary.

Sometimes Paizo can make me so frustrated. And lately it's just been getting worse. My experiences are far from the worst, but they seem to pile on top of one another. It's slowly grinding away at me...


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Diego Valdez wrote:

Hello Pigraven,

I got order 14240064 fixed, but it has a new order number now. Order 14982667. I think the warehouse folks are all out for the day by now, so it won't ship out until Monday.

The suspended order will stay suspended until you let us know you're ready. So no need to worry about that. When you are just let us know and we can get it taken care of, and apply any store credit you need to have applied to it.

Thanks.

Just a heads up, but it looks like that Order 14982667 has already been declined. It's the same thing as earlier, I think. It keeps trying to ping against the card or whatever. I don't know if it's still a bug or what. It shows that it once again applied the proper store credit amount, but for whatever reason seems compelled to also ping the card.

I don't mind that it's not officially shipping out until Monday. Does that mean I'll have to wait another weekend before I get my PDF of Gods and Magic? I'm not usually a big PDF downloader, as I often run my own adventures and I'm more of a book at the table-type DM. But I've actually got a new campaign starting tomorrow, and folks looking for Character options during our Session 0/Character Creation.


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Jib916 wrote:
Really hoping for a response/update before weekend, the radio silence since Wednesday is rough...

What is it you're waiting on? Your subscriptions to clear and ship out?


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I was following this thread from the start but didn't want to comment because I had just started 2e and wanted to get some experience under my belt. Now that I've got about 3+ months of 2e DM experience, I'd like to share what has worked best at my table with regards to Incapacitation.

The Bards in one of my groups summed up best what most felt about Incapacitation:

"In other editions I love to focus on Enchantment SoS because the all-or-nothing nature is really fun and doesn't hurt my regular Bard duties when the spells mostly fail. With so few spell slots in 2e, let alone spells known, I probably couldn't even afford such a one-dimensional magic build like that and stay viable. But it frustrates me most that I don't think I can afford to take even one or two of the SoS's throughout my adventuring career. With so few spell resources, each of my spell known selections I spend on an offensive spell must have at least a small chance to work as intended. Otherwise, what's the point of casting it? I'd rather have a chance, no matter how small, at them succeeding in full than not at all and receiving table scraps. I understand how Incapacitation is helpful for balance issues, but if it balances the fun right out of a build for me, what does it really matter? That's not real game improvement, even if it does mechanically work better. Sure, I can always swap out the spells in a level or two once they become irrelevant, but then all I'm doing is sacrificing my thematically relevant spells due to mechanical reasons. And that was the problem with things like HD caps in PF1."

While I don't know if I agree that I'd rather have my own spells be all-or-nothing over something-or-less, I do see his point. Especially for something like the SoS spells, given that the thematic nature of them tend to cry out, "go big or go home".

Our solution was a rather simple one. For each opponent of an appropriate level where the Incapacitation trait may apply, the DM rolls a 1d8 in private. If it's for a boss character, rolling a 1 means it can initially be affected by a Spell or Effect with the Incapacitation trait. If the opponent/s in question is high enough level but not a boss, rolling a 1 or 2 means it can initially be affected by a Spell or Effect with the Incapacitation trait. Once such a creature is hit with a Spell or Effect with the Incapacitation trait--whether this initial Spell or Effect succeeds or not--the Incapacitation trait applies normally for any future Spell or Effect used against the creature for 24 hours.

This doesn't change anything about the way the Incapacitation trait works. It only changes the frequency for whether the trait initially applies or not. If it's a boss character, there is a 12.5% chance that a SoS spell at least has the potential to work. And if it's a powerful character but not quite a boss, that chance doubles to 25%. This doesn't mean a spell WILL work, only that there is now a small percent chance it CAN work.

This helps maintain the excellent balance that I feel the Incapacitation trait brings to PF2e. But it also allows for an opportunity that such a powerful spell can work in full against any creature, thus preserving the flavor of most of these spells. Because it's a private roll on the DM's end, the characters won't know at first if the Incapacitation trait applies or not. Spellcasters can still cast their favorite such spell with confidence, knowing there is at least a chance it could work in full. And even if the Incapacitation trait applies from the start or the Spell or Effect can apply but fails, it's not a total waste of a spell slot.

So far all the players in my ongoing campaigns love this rule. I've kept track, and out of the 19 bosses faced so far, only four times did I roll a 1. Out of those four, only once did a boss roll a fail. Naturally the numbers were a bit higher for non-bosses, but not so high that it completely distorted the fights.

I hope this helps anyone still looking for a good solution. It's definitely not perfect, but it sort of bridges the gap a bit between the two schools of thought that seem prominent in this thread.


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I give up.


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This is for anyone from Paizo's excellent customer service, but Diego was great and helped me on the phone last week so he probably has a better understanding of what is going on with this wacky order.

It looks like the order (which was split) is correctly applying the appropriate store credit now. And of course that's enough to cover the subscriptions for January. But it's still trying to use the Visa card as a payment type--even though with the appropriate amount of store credit being available and used, the card itself shouldn't have been brought into play. I know this is one of the weird hiccups of the system, as it's happened before. I don't know the exact steps, but someone may need to manually push it through, forcing it to ignore the card pin or whatever happens. Otherwise, despite the appropriate amount of store credit being charged (and available), it's going to keep pinning the card for whatever reason--and that will continually fail.

Please let me know if there is anything left for me to do on my end to make this possible.

Thanks so much in advance!

PS. As for my Suspended Order, the Visa rep I spoke with on Friday wasn't helpful (and didn't seem particularly knowledgeable on Visa Gift Card issues), so I decided to call it a day and try again this week. I won't be able to do that until Wednesday at the earliest. At this point I'll probably buy enough store credit to cover the suspended order and still have enough credit leftover to cover the February order spawning that begins next week. At this point that seems the easiest move, and hopefully I'll still get access to whatever is left on my previous Visa pre-paid soon enough.

Having said all that, I don't want to buy more store credit until the January subscription order is pushed through, just to prevent it possibly double-charging or something from whatever credit I put in for February. My goal here is to muddy the already cloudy water as little as possible.


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Anguish wrote:
Pigraven wrote:

This is good to know ahead of time, thank you.

I have a clarification question: Am I correct in assuming we won't be taxed for the free PDF/s we receive as part of our subscription? We will be charged tax for the physical copies, of course. But we won't be taxed for the free counterparts, correct?

$0 times any percentage taxation is $0.

Or am I misunderstanding what you're asking?

No, you are correct. However, I've seen it where sometimes a company will still charge something for an item that is free. The most common is charging shipping and handling for a free item, which makes sense. But there have been occasions where I've seen online vendors charge tax on a free item because in their system they use a placeholder dollar amount as part of their code, and only zero out the cost of the item after everything, including tax, is tallied. I don't know how legal that is, but I can confirm it's a thing that happens.


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Cap'n Nemo wrote:
I love the Deluxe editions, but I wish the Deluxe editions had the regular book cover as the first page. All the art is so good it's a shame not to have it included.

At the very least it would be nice to receive a loose leaf 8" x 11" Poster sheet. I can understand not wanting to add an extra page, in the event that would mess with the page count and potentially cause unnecessary confusion with future products that references back to page numbers. But receiving a quality printing that can be displayed in the home would be great.


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This is good to know ahead of time, thank you.

I have a clarification question: Am I correct in assuming we won't be taxed for the free PDF/s we receive as part of our subscription? We will be charged tax for the physical copies, of course. But we won't be taxed for the free counterparts, correct?


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Sam Phelan wrote:

Hello Pigraven,

I've given the order the nudge it needs and it should leave our warehouse soon. if you have any further questions or concerns, please let us know. Thank you!

Thank you so much, Sam. I'll be sure to check back on its status tomorrow afternoon.

And... Sorry if I came off sounding like a sassy seahorse. It wasn't my intent. I've had numerous issues with orders in the past--some of my making, some due to bugs in the system--and you fine folks have always been so great and eventually get things squared away. I have faith it will be so again.

I don't necessarily mind all the issues that crop up. But when there is a lack of communication or extended periods of time without it, I find myself wondering where I fall between the "squeaky wheel gets the oil" and the "squeaky wheel broke off at the axle and went rolling down the hill unnoticed" situation. And that makes me both nervous and anxious.

Anyways, thanks again.

Enjoy the rest of your day!


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It's been a week now since I responded here that the order was still having problems, and I've yet to receive a response. I did just send off an email for the first time regarding the situation.

Would the folks at customer service prefer/suggest I always use email instead of these boards? Should I just call whenever there is an issue? I'm not sure which is the best way to contact you to resolve the issue. I know it's busy season and there are holiday sales orders to deal with and likely employee absences thanks to winter illnesses. Still, a week seems a bit long to wait for a response when there's been no posts up in the Sticky section to indicate the crew is behind schedule.


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Bumping this in the hopes that someone sees it. It would be great to get the AP shipped out before week's end.

Thanks in advance!


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Unfortunately, the order didn't take. It's back to declining the payment method despite the setting for it to pull from my store credit first.


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Hello good folks at Paizo,

I hope you can help me push through my December order. The late November spawning date completely slipped my mind and I forgot to make sure I had enough store credit to cover the order. This one is 100% all on me; we've had a once in a decade flurry of family activity this last couple weeks and things have been slipping my mind left and right.

I purchased some more store credit Sunday night to make sure this order is covered. I also switched the Visa card on file used for subscription orders, but when the order tried to spawn yesterday (12/2) it tried to take the whole amount from the card instead of pulling from the store credit I had purchased the day before. The site shows my subscriptions are still set up to pull from any available store credit first, so I'm not sure why it didn't happen yesterday. The only reason I can come up with is because it's the same order number as the previous failed attempts, perhaps it's "locked in" to pulling from the card before the store credit, despite my current settings.

Regardless, there is now enough store credit to handle the order in full. I would greatly appreciate it if you could jingle and jangle what you need to in order to push it through using my store credit.

PS. It looks like I had $9.36 left in store credit when the order originally tried to spawn on November 21st. I purchased $49.00 more in store credit Sunday. On 12/2 the order tried charging the new card the full $22.32, instead of the $12.96 it had been charging the previous card. I hope I can still get that $9.36 in previous store credit added back to the $49.00 in credit I just purchased. If my math is right the total store credit should officially start at $58.36, and I should have $36.04 credit remaining once the $22.32 goes through for the Broken Promises AP (my only subscription item shipping this month).

Thanks so much in advance. I apologize for the mess. And I hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Sincerely,
Pigraven


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I received my case and I'm happy to report I received a full set. I'll be posting a full review in the review section at some point. In the meantime, here are some of my general thoughts:

1. Paizo needs to start photographing their pieces in-hand much earlier and releasing said photos to online shops. Seriously. I'm not sure where the pictures come from that many of these shops use, but they look terrible. For some reason, people take photos so close up, and it makes the overall quality of the Battles pieces look disgusting. If I were new to Paizo and had never purchased a case, there is no way in any universe I'd purchase a brick, case, or any individual pieces before seeing a video review.

I've been a Paizo/Pathfinder Battles customer and fan for a long time. I've been through the ugly days where there were multiple pieces per set that looked horrible in-hand. That hasn't really been the case for awhile. Sure, there are still pieces in a set that I don't like, but most often that's not a quality issue. Every set typically has a Dweomer Cat-like unacceptable quality miniature. But usually it's just limited to one per set these days. Paizo does itself a real disservice not putting out in-hand pictures immediately after getting in an early set.

2. If Paizo is too strapped for time when it comes to taking pictures, it's time to officially team up with Gallant Goblin, the YouTube channel. They do an excellent job in their reviews of rotating the in-hand miniatures, with great lighting, great resolution, etc. The product isn't so close that it distorts the on-table appearance. That is, when you see the miniatures in those videos, they better represent what you're visually going to get with each piece when used at your table.

Otherwise, potential buyers are going to look at these super zoomed-in shots on the third-party sites and bulk at purchasing them. And yes, you being to see more and more of the imperfections. That's to be expected from hand-painted miniatures from humans that likely have a running clock on how long they can take per miniature. But at no point have my eyes ever zoomed in as close to a miniature as some of these shots. Our eyes can't zoom that way. So it's time for Paizo to get actively involved and borrow still shots from Gallant Goblins' videos. Start sending them an early case, not just a brick. Let them break it all down, and in return use their shots to distribute as official in-hand pictures for all the third-party websites.

3. Paizo should error on the side of "bigger" miniatures when determining miniature size. While I'm happy to finally have an official Paizo Aboleth, it's a bit on the small side. I'm pretty sure the Large-sized Aboleth (or whatever it was called) from a handful of sets ago was slightly bigger. This isn't a bad miniature, just a bit underwhelming.

4. The Giants in this set are no doubt in correct proportion to their Pathfinder scale. The Storm Giant itself is a nice miniature, though one wishes there were some sort of indication that he was indeed a Storm Giant. Some lightning, perhaps?. The Cloud Giant variations are both fine, if not exactly exciting. I can appreciate that Paizo has preserved through its two editions the size of Giants from D&D 3.5. But when using them at the table, it's sort of disappointing when dragging out the box of Giants and seeing how puny these giants look compared to the bigger 5e versions. If there has been one saving grace for me, it's that 90% of the time, I much prefer the look of Pathfinder giants over their 5e counterparts.

5. While on the subject of small-looking miniatures, the Chimera comes off looking pretty small here. I think it's actually pretty close to scale, but without it's wings outstretched, it feels pretty tiny. I'll have to drag out all my Chimera miniatures and compare them.

6. The Pteranodon also feels small, though it's possible the scale is just right. Per Wikipedia, male Pteranodons had an average wingspan of 18 feet (females were 12 feet). I feel like the size of this miniature is actually correct, but Paizo missed a great opportunity to give the miniature much more presence. Had they gone with a sculpt with outstretched wings instead of raised wings, it would have felt more imposing at the table. Still, the miniature itself is decent.

7. Less surface area of a miniature generally means a lower quality paint job. Unless a miniature has a rarity of Rare, the more colors involved seem to increase the risk of a messy paint job. Never is that more evident than on the Gnome Rogue. None of my Gnome Rogues were as bad as some in-hand pics I've seen from others. However, there's just so much going on color-wise with these little things it looks like Jackson Pollock got upset with Raggedy Ann and through buckets of paint on her.

8. I'd love to see Paizo follow the lead of Wizards, and release previously unpainted (Deep Cuts) miniatures as high-quality pre-painted miniatures. Especially when it comes to humanoids. The fewer humanoids that show up in the Battles sets, the less chance to underperform on their face. WizKids still struggles a bit with light-complexion humanoids. Even the Rare Halfling Wizard in this set doesn't approach the quality of most of the Iconic Heroes line. However, none of them stick out as particularly horrible in this set, in my opinion.

9. I agree with Kor about the Orcs. The sculpts are a letdown from previous versions, no doubt. The older sculpts packed a lot of character into them, even the ones that received poor paint jobs. Between helmets crunching faces and the darker colors used for the skin, these just aren't as impressive to me. What is impressive is that I have sixteen new Orcs for my horde, and that doesn't even count the ones I received in the preview packs.

10. Speaking of preview packs, I'd love to see more of them. The paint job looks a bit higher quality than their counterparts in the Battles case. And it would be a great way to increase our hordes even more. Sign me up for more Kobolds, especially non-red versions.

11. Not really related to this set, but... I'd love to see the Battles line put out a few sets of Pathfinder Battles: Familiars and Pathfinder Battles: Animal Companions. I know some creatures can be found in similar sizes in toy sections. And I definitely appreciate the multiples of animals that make it into the main Battles sets. But I have to imagine that a Legendary Adventures Preview-style set of high-quality Familiars and Animal Companions would sell. Maybe not with so much unnecessary packaging this time around. Speaking of animals, the illustration of the Halfling on the Riding Dog found on page 102 of the PF2 Bestiary would make for a great Rare Medium-sized miniature sooner than later. You could then put a riderless version in the Pathfinder Battles: Animal Companion set.

12. Despite all the issues I brought up earlier, I really do love this set overall. I'm thrilled to be able to continue filling out the armies of more low-level creatures. Many of the Huge pieces look great, including the Dragon Turtle. And I appreciate that the Bugbears and (especially) Hobgoblins now look closer to Goblins in their facial features.

I can't wait to see what is next.


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I did not receive a letter either, but I'm listed as Pending.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Reprints of the first older Pathfinder Battles sets seem to be available already.

I ordered a Rise of the Runelords brick and it arrived yesterday.

I am very pleased with the quality, it even seems to have increased a little from the original august 2012 release.

I had zero breakage, no bad paint jobs and only a few very slightly bended weapons.

I had 5 rares, 2 large and 3 medium.

Interesting. Same paint schemes, as far as you can tell?


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Sara Marie,

I sent an email about this early this morning but decided to post here, too, because sometimes the system gets weird with my orders. Like Fumarole above me, I notified a CS rep last week and asked them to ship my Battles & Incentive. They put the order through, it charged me (store credit, like I have it set up), but it's still marked Pending. I know sometimes it takes awhile to go from Pending to shipping out, but it's been over a week now.

I know you've been having issues with UPS Ground, outages, and short-handedness. But recent history has taught me that sometimes even when I think everything is okay with my order, there's a small hiccup somewhere. So I thought I'd mention it, Order 8189904, just in case that's what's happened here.

Please let me know if there is something else I need to do on my end. Thank you.


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Cat-thulhu wrote:
My battles sub still says pending and payment method required. I checked the new payment according to the email and it appears correct. Is there a issue I should be concerned about?

I have the same issue, and emailed them about it the other day. They said they are having some issues with UPS Ground shipping, and that's apparently what's caused the weirdness. I use store credit to pay for my order. It's already taken payment out of my store credit (and the email assured me I wouldn't be charged for shipping again). So all I'm waiting for at this point is for them to literally ship the boxes out.

I'm not going to lie..at this point it's getting a bit frustrating. I won't air my grievances here, but it certainly seems as if it's been one thing after another.


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One quick way to find out shipping is to add a case and the incentive piece to your actual cart, as if you were going to buy them that way without the Battles subscription. Go through the order process as normal, but only up through and including Step 2: Shipping. Make sure you choose the shipping method that your subscription uses (most likely the cheapest available). This will give the shipping and handling rate for the case + incentive.

Don't worry that the total price will probably be different: The case will likely be discounted at the normal $279.99 USD, but the incentive might list at $69.99 USD instead of the $24.99 USD. That's because the system still applies your 30% off a Battles product (case). But this method isn't applying the 75% off the Incentive, instead it's taking just 30% off. None of that matters, though, as the goal here is simply to find out how much shipping and handling will be for the case + incentive. Once you've determined the cost of shipping & handling (and any other applicable overseas costs), just go back to Step 1: Shopping Cart, and remove both the case + incentive.

Whatever you do, don't hit the red Place Your Order button under Step 4: Place Your Order while the case + incentive is still in your cart.

I don't know if the $10.00 USD off shipping that Paizo offers on an order of $100.00 USD or more applies to international customers or not. If it does apply, make sure you subtract the $10.00 USD from the total shipping and handling charge you get from Step 2: Shipping.


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This information is intended to help fellow Battles subscribers regarding the Legendary Adventures case, Goblin Village set, and any choices he or she might need to make about one or both of these items. Obviously for folks in other areas of the United States, things will be different.

Location: Northeast Ohio (specifically, the Akron/Kent area)

Shipping Method Used: UPS Ground (1-5 business days, cheapest option available)

Scenario 1 = 2 Items/2 shipment packages:
Shipment 1: Legendary Adventures Case: $279.99 +($51.94 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 12 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 29 lbs.
Shipment 2: Legendary Adventures Incentive: $24.99 (+$28.97 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 4 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 12 lbs.

Subtotal: $304.98
Shipping & Handling: $80.91
Paizo Shipping & Handling Discount: -$10.00
Final Order Total = $375.89

Scenario 2 = 1 Item/1 shipment package:
Shipment 1: Legendary Adventures Case: $279.99 +($51.94 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 12 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 29 lbs.

Subtotal: $279.99
Shipping & Handling: $51.94
Paizo Shipping & Handling Discount: -$10.00
Final Order Total = $321.93

Summary/Thoughts: The Goblin Village adds an additional $28.97 in shipping & handling on top of the already steep $51.94 shipping charge for the Legendary Adventures Case. Add in the $24.99 Battles-subscriber cost of the Incentive itself, and that’s a total of $53.96 you can save by passing up on the set this time around. If you use dungeon dressing and set pieces, it’s possible you feel the extra cost is completely worth it. If, like me, you only use Creatures/PCs/NPCs in your campaign, you might decide it makes more sense to sit the Goblin Village out.


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In the October shipping thread in the customer service forum, Sara Marie said we can get the ball rolling on our Legendary Adventures subscriptions if we are okay with the higher costs of shipping. If you are satisfied with the higher costs this time around, shoot off an email to customer service to let them know they can start the order and get it shipped out as soon as possible. Make sure you include the word Battles, Subscriptions and Legendary Adventures in the subject headline.

If you have a Battles subscription and want to figure out about how much the total shipping will be, add a case of Legendary Adventures to your cart, and the Goblin Village Incentive that comes with it. Go through the checkout process to Step 4 (Place Your Order). This will let you see what your shipping total is with the $10.00 Paizo shipping discount applied. Just make sure you don't hit the red Place Your Order button. Instead go back to Step 1 (Shopping Cart) and remove the items from your cart.

*Don't be alarmed at the higher subtotal. It will show higher this way because it's not an actual subscription, so the Goblin Village discount will only list at $69.99, (30% off), instead of the usual 75%. However, the shipping & handling total should come out about the same.


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This information is intended to help fellow Battles subscribers regarding the Legendary Adventures case, Goblin Village set, and any choices he or she might need to make about one or both of these items. Obviously for folks in other areas of the United States, things will be different.

Location: Northeast Ohio (specifically, the Akron/Kent area)

Shipping Method Used: UPS Ground (1-5 business days, cheapest option available)

Scenario 1 = 2 Items/2 shipment packages:
Shipment 1: Legendary Adventures Case: $279.99 +($51.94 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 12 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 29 lbs.
Shipment 2: Legendary Adventures Incentive: $24.99 (+$28.97 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 4 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 12 lbs.

Subtotal: $304.98
Shipping & Handling: $80.91
Paizo Shipping & Handling Discount: -$10.00
Final Order Total = $375.89

Scenario 2 = 1 Item/1 shipment package:
Shipment 1: Legendary Adventures Case: $279.99 +($51.94 S&H)
Estimated Package Weight: 12 lbs.; Adjusted Dimensional Weight: 29 lbs.

Subtotal: $279.99
Shipping & Handling: $51.94
Paizo Shipping & Handling Discount: -$10.00
Final Order Total = $321.93

Summary/Thoughts: The Goblin Village adds an additional $28.97 in shipping & handling on top of the already steep $51.94 shipping charge for the Legendary Adventures Case. Add in the $24.99 Battles-subscriber cost of the Incentive itself, and that’s a total of $53.96 you can save by passing up on the set this time around. If you use dungeon dressing and set pieces, it’s possible you feel the extra cost is completely worth it. If, like me, you only use Creatures/PCs/NPCs in your campaign, you might decide it makes more sense to sit the Goblin Village out.


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Also, I think that technically the 15%-off Paizo Advantage plan also applies to the Battles line. So if you only had the Paizo Advantage plan, you could still order products from the Battles line at a 15% discount.

However, the Pathfinder Battles subscription discount of 30% off the case and 75% off the incentive is separate from the Paizo Advantage. Despite being separate, it supersedes (and does not stack with) the 15%-off the Paizo Advantage offers.


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I posted this in the other thread, but I'm pretty sure this answer is correct:

My understanding is that the "Legacy Advantage" applies in two big ways:

1. It retains for PF1 Adventure Path subscribers the ability to retain their (near) site-wide 15% Paizo Advantage on products and other subscriptions alike without needing four or more subscriptions.

2. It retains the 30% off the Pathfinder Adventure Path subscriptions we were getting pre-PF2.

The "Legacy Advantage" applies for those people who were signed up for the Adventure Path during the PF1 run, and the switch over to PF2.

In other words, the "Legacy Advantage" is a way to maintain the status quo for the many long-time subscribers like you and me (and many, many others).

If you signed up post-PF1, the Adventure Path subscription counts as just one of FOUR total subscriptions you need to obtain the 15% (near) site-wide Pathfinder Advantage. And from what I can tell, under this deal you only get 15% off the Adventure Path, effectively dropping the price from $24.99 to $21.24. (Instead of down to the 30% off price of $17.49).


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JohnF wrote:


I believe the Legacy advantage means that as long as you keep the Pathfinder Adventure Path subscription (which is what used to earn the 15% Paizo Advantage discount) you qualify for that discount even if you don't subscribe to four or more qualifying product lines (the new way to earn Paizo Advantage).

As a Pathfinder Battles subscriber you should be getting 30% off the Iconic Heroes Evolved set (which you are). I'm not sure why you seem to be getting 30% off the Pathfinder Adventure Path; I would expect that to only get the 15% Paizo Advantage discount (plus the free PDF, of course).

My understanding is that the "Legacy Advantage" applies in two big ways:

1. It retains for PF1 Adventure Path subscribers the ability to retain their (near) site-wide 15% Paizo Advantage on products and other subscriptions alike without needing four or more subscriptions.

2. It retains the 30% off the Pathfinder Adventure Path subscriptions we were getting pre-PF2.

The "Legacy Advantage" applies for those people who were signed up for the Adventure Path during the PF1 run, and the switch over to PF2.

In other words, the "Legacy Advantage" is a way to maintain the status quo for the many long-time subscribers like Steve and me (and many, many others).

If you signed up post-PF1, the Adventure Path subscription counts as just one of FOUR total subscriptions you need to obtain the 15% (near) site-wide Pathfinder Advantage. And from what I can tell, under this deal you only get 15% off the Adventure Path, effectively dropping the price from $24.99 to $21.24. (Instead of down to the 30% off price of $17.49).


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Sara Marie wrote:
Pigraven wrote:

My order, Order# 8184209, spawned, but it appears the Legacy AP discount did not apply on my Lost Omens book. It should be $29.74 instead of the regular $34.99.

Again, that's Order 8184209

For the record, this is now three spawning periods in a row where the Legacy Discount has failed to apply on the initial spawn. While it is nice that it was eventually fixed the last two times, it's a bit frustrating it has happened again.

Discount applied. I'm also seeing that our system is having a difficult time determining which payment method is the one set to your subscriptions. If you could reply to the confirmation email or give us a call to let us know the last four digits of the correct card, we will get that squared away.

(Edit: nm, I see the order is covered by store credit, however, we still need to know which card the subscriptions should be attached to).

I just selected the card for which they can be attached, since maybe your system requires one. However, I'll only ever be using store credit from here on out (as I have been for the last year+), so hopefully this isn't a problem for the future. (It hasn't been for most of the past year, once Diego and I got things squared away). This is also the reason why I have posted every so often about the importance of getting a fairly accurate description as quickly as possible of what shipping would be each month. (And why it was hard to get that when the Battles incentive price and shipping weight kept changing, such as with the two individual Elementals).

However, because I now realize that sometimes you don't know the exact details until the product literally arrives at the warehouse, advance notice isn't always something I can count on. And because my way of ordering (with store credit) is the anomaly here, I've since decided to just purchase more store credit than I clearly need every month. This way, no matter what bugs may occur (like the Paizo Advantage not applying) or hiccups pop up (different weight and increased shipping for Battles/Incentive) I am always covered. I figure if an issue does arise on the Paizo end of things, I can always get it fixed retroactively, instead of taking the chance of not having enough store credit (my end of things). Better to be safe than sorry.

Speaking of the Battles line, it currently shows that my Battles case will cost roughly $331.93 with shipping. That doesn't include the $24.99 for the incentive, nor any extra cost for incentive shipping. Adding the incentive makes it a total of $356.92, with an unknown shipping price for that incentive. I can't imagine the shipping for the incentive alone is over $40.00. And as far as I know, the $10.00 shipping Paizo pays on orders over $100 hasn't been applied to that suggested shipping cost on the case yet. So I'm pretty sure the $407.+ I still have in store credit will cover the total Battles case, incentive, and shipping cost. Can you confirm this on your end?


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My order, Order# 8184209, spawned, but it appears the Legacy AP discount did not apply on my Lost Omens book. It should be $29.74 instead of the regular $34.99.

Again, that's Order 8184209

For the record, this is now three spawning periods in a row where the Legacy Discount has failed to apply on the initial spawn. While it is nice that it was eventually fixed the last two times, it's a bit frustrating it has happened again.


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Thanks so much for the update!


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Thanks so much. As someone only interested in the four books and nothing else, I feel like there's a good chance they will be cheaper upon release than the combined $216+ (including shipping) they want through the crowdfunding site.


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Pigraven wrote:
After the relative disaster that was the Falling Star ship...
That's the only setting piece I have any use for (I think it was done exceptionally well!). May I ask what you didn't like about it?

To be fair, I don't think the piece itself looks bad. I bought it but gave it to a friend's son that is currently obsessed with ships in general. (And because I needed the space). But I really don't have problems with the ship itself looks.

I guess I'm just basing it on the fact that most sites had it listed for roughly the suggested $250 during pre-sale and a week after release. There were exceptions, of course. Within two weeks on the market, though, it was still available on most sites, listed at most for $199.99 USD. It was routinely in the "On Sale" section in many sites for $174.99 or $179.99. I realize this is pretty much all anecdotal observation based on no actual sales figures. But I can't imagine the piece is selling too well given the huge decrease in price and frequent availability of the piece.

As nice a piece as it is, I'm not sure I'd pay over $150.00 if I could do it all over again. It does look nice, but some the pieces just felt too cheap in-hand.

I'd also like to point out that this was only ever seen as a collection piece for me. I knew going in I was never going to use it in a campaign. When it comes to any spatial-related pieces, like ships or cemeteries or the like, I've found it far more functional to just draw up my own 2-D maps or even use a Pathfinder 2-D map. The point I'm trying to make here is that I'm sure it could be a functional playing piece for the many folks out there that are more liberal with their use of terrain/sets.


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I know it might make better sense for Paizo to continue to include playsets like the Goblin Village as incentive pieces over individual Gargantuan monsters. If the popularity of terrain and playset pieces trumps the general interest in one simple creature, it makes sense to continue down that path. Hopefully, Gargantuan and Colossal-sized miniatures can still see the light of day.

Here are a couple suggestions:

Cave Worms:

Cave worms are among some of the coolest looking Gargantuan creatures, and have long been one of the more popular creatures in fantasy games. The PF2 Bestiary lists three cave worms (pages 56-59), all of Gargantuan size. While all three of these creatures look awesome, I can't imagine it would be profitable to release three as incentives across three different Battles sets. As a collector of miniatures and cool looking things for my shelves in general, I'd gladly shell out $100.00 USD for a set of the three Gargantuan-sized cave worms.

If Paizo released a Pathfinder Battles: Cave Worms Creature Pack, or something of the like, I'd look for one of each in the box:
Azure Worm - x1
Crimson Worm -x1
Purple Worm -x1

This would give DMs and collectors alike a chance at three creatures not likely to otherwise see the light of day (at least in this size). The cost usually ends up being a bit cheaper whether using our Paizo Battles discount on this site, or through third-party online shops. So the functional price for many buyers wouldn't seem too outrageous. Besides, having a set of three awesome looking, Gargantuan-sized, uniquely looking cave worms to put out on general display in a game room would be spectacular.

Alternatively, you could make all three and sell them separately, letting buyers pick and choose. Depending on packaging logistics, this might be the better choice.

Linnorms:

Linnorms are another immensely popular creature that play a prominent role in Pathfinder lore and the world of Golarion. Since I first started collecting Pathfinder miniatures, I've seen repeated requests for Linnorm miniatures. I've noticed in the PF2 Bestiary, there are four Linnorms listed (pages 224-227), all of Gargantuan size. Packaging all four Linnorms together seems like a packaging and pricing nightmare. But I could definitely see a release of 2 Gargantuan-sized Linnorms per box. Or even just each of the four Gargantuan-sized Linnorms released individually. I could see the following:

Pathfinder Battles: Linnorm set 1:
Crag Linnorm - x1
Ice Linnorm - x1

Pathfinder Battles: Linnorm Set 2:
Tarn Linnorm - x1
Tor Linnorm - x1

or, as I mentioned above, each one packaged individually.

Regardless, this would allow DM's and collectors alike to finally obtain long-sought miniature representations of some of the most prominent big bads in the Pathfinder (1 & 2) world. All without having to try and fit them in as incentive pieces for the regular Battles line.

I realize bigger-sized creature packs weren't a hit five or six years ago. But if the Icons line is over there selling Colossal-sized plastic knight statues, certainly there is an opportunity to try putting two sets of classic fantasy monsters out into the world.


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While I'm on the subject of Battles miniatures I'd really like to see made, let me state that at this point for Pathfinder 2, I'm going to need to see the Battles line actually try and support the PC-options provided to us in the source material.

The Legendary Adventures set is so appealing to me in part because of the lack of human pc-type miniatures. The old Wizards line started in 2003, I think. So that's like sixteen years or so of Human miniatures to draw on if we need a particular mini look from that race. If you really need a human PC and can't find one out there, you're probably not trying hard enough. Plus, there is always HeroForge or whatever, which appears to have more options for Humans than any other race.

Throughout Pathfinder 1, Paizo went crazy introducing many different non-human playable races in their source materials. Sadly, minis of certain races were never made. In fact, many of these races fell by the wayside from day one even in subsequent source material. How many options were made for Grippli's, for example, after they appeared in the Race Guide? Despite all the rules bickering and inconsistent balance issues throughout PF1's reign, I always felt like their biggest flaw was introducing some different--but interesting--material, then letting it hit the cutting room floor with seemingly little investment.

I'd like to see Pathfinder 2 avoid this mistake. If we're going to new ancestries in the coming books, how about we see them better represented in both source material and on our table in miniature form. I've not really been keeping up with news on forthcoming PF2 source material, but I've heard Leshies might be a playable ancestry at some point. Sounds totally awesome! So how about we get a few Leshy miniatures to reflect that?

In addition to more non-human playable PC-types, the Battles line for PF2 offers us a chance to catch up on some underrepresented creatures, like Plant and Fey-types. I feel like these creatures were all over the Adventure Paths and in the Bestiaries 2-6, but we rarely received plastic representatives. I think some of that was due to a lack of Huge-sized miniatures to represent many of the beautiful Huge plant creatures in the Bestiaries. But that shouldn't be much of a problem anymore.

As I'm looking through the PF2 Bestiary, I'm excited for some of the possibilities. I know that many people don't want to see too many recycled monsters when we are missing so many creatures from PF1 already. But I do think if Paizo is smart about their choices, it won't be too bad. While I like many of the PF1 Battles creatures we received, there is without a doubt a few from every set that seemed more letdown than anything. Releasing updated versions of these offers a chance to "redeem" the former release; Wizkids just needs to deliver on their end.


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After the relative disaster that was the Falling Star ship, the last thing I'm going to do is pay money for any type of Skyship. Granted, space adventures aren't my jam, so I likely wouldn't anyways. But the completionist-gene in me has been made dormant with all the non-monster incentives we've received over the years.

Still, looking beyond myself, it's pretty obvious they are popular with many other collectors. We've seen them increase in frequency in both the Icons line and Pathfinder Battles line. And I believe Wizards has already come out with their own terrain-type line, yes? So I do understand there is a major desire there.

At the end of the day, I just want more Gargantuan and/or Colossal-sized creatures. I don't really care how they get here. I bought that big Colossal-sized (I think) knight statue from Icons back in August, and it looks freakin' awesome. Imagine getting some actual creatures of that size to use in campaigns at the table?

I can't tell you how happy I am that Pathfinder is finally getting Huge-sized creatures. It's a big plus for me. Combined with the Huge-sized pieces from the Icons line, we should be able to cover many of the source books in that size in relatively little time. But there are still some Gargantuan-sized creatures that need to see the light of day. Not to mention the Colossal creatures.

As for the Starfinder minis... While I personally won't be buying cases, I'm hoping there are a few crossover monsters from both Starfinder and PF1 that show up in that set so I can cherry-pick them on here and from secondary shops. Again, I'm not completely familiar with the Alien Archive and other creature sources, but crossover is somewhat inevitable, I'd think. And a set like Starfinder would seem a perfect place to release more Lovecraft-like, weird-looking creatures that might not be as popular or fitting in the Pathfinder line. It could go a long way towards putting some of the more interesting looking creatures from the PF Bestiaries 2-6 line on our table.


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Can anyone from Paizo or familiar with this backing situation answer me the following question? Thank you so much in advance!

Will the following books eventually be available for public sale?:

Pathfinder 2.0 Kingmaker Adventure Path
Pathfinder 2.0 Kingmaker Companion Guide
5e Kingmaker Bestiary
Pathfinder 1.0 Kingmaker Bestiary

I understand the price will likely be different for each book. But will these four books eventually be available for sale, both from the Paizo website AND 3rd-party sellers?

*Edit* In addition, am I correct in reading that both Bestiaries, the 5e version and the Pathfinder 1.0 version don't come with PDFs of their own?

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