
brvheart |

Ok, I think I'm missing part of a side conversation here. To be clear, no one has thrown any fireballs around. I'm not sure what the bit about Energy Resistance (Fire) is...
Fralk has chucked a web spell from a wand.
PS. Thoron, how can you know about the dragon? No one has actually said anything (up until me, know), and you can't have gotten to line of sight...
Actually that was the half-fiend not the dragon.

Fralk ibn Sabbah |

Alright folks, I was away a bit and missed a few things :(
How many rolls does the Gobbo need to make to take care of his new friend, Terodius?
Trap Door
Desk
Invisible Chest
Is that Search for Traps for each... and Disable Device for each... ?

Ratel Dier |

Nomi, I could not figure some of these out, can you get what I missed please, my humble apprentice?
Thoron Palehorn wrote:I try to ID the two bottles that weren't Id'd and the desk.
[Dice=Spell Craft]1d20+51st bottle oil of darkness
[Dice=Spell Craft]1d20+52nd bottle
[Dice=Spell Craft]1d20+5 desk
No-me-name, it appears we could still use spell craft on the 2nd bottle and the desk.

brvheart |

Did the party decide what to do with the two from upstairs? The dumbish girl and her companion.

Ratel Dier |

Did the party decide what to do with the two from upstairs? The dumbish girl and her companion.
I just assumed we left them to their own devices. But I don't remember any conversation about it.

brvheart |

brvheart wrote:Did the party decide what to do with the two from upstairs? The dumbish girl and her companion.I just assumed we left them to their own devices. But I don't remember any conversation about it.
b) Skelly and Orsen. Are they considered in the march order?

Terodius Mitrakin |

That's me you're quoting, BrvHeart, and it was a question that never got answered. I kind of thought we were taking them along, but I'm surely not the person who'd be making the decision...

brvheart |

Is that a Hydra in the corner of the room?
Edit:Yep it was a hydra
six heads

Ratel Dier |

Please tell me the fishing boat is from the pirate game!
Nope, that clearly washed through the door behind the hydra...

Terodius Mitrakin |

..
E) As this is the first time we have dealt with this, Thoron's Glove og Invulnerability is not penatrable by spells of level 3 or less. This cannot be turned off. So no bless, haste, etc
So can I smell my own ass roasting or not?

Ratel Dier |

so no, he is not a mage. Ratel you have no idea where the mage is. I will have Jim attack the fighter instead.
Sorry saw the furry fellow on the map and assumed he was the wizard. May I instead assume he's the fighter that him ran into?

Ratel Dier |

Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat. As he steps forwards he tells the ape, "I'll deal with you in a second." Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard.
Apparently the heavy bearded fellow in the doorway is not the wizard, but in fact a fighter. Sorry about the assumption. Brv, please have Ratel's attack on Friday apply to the bearded fellow :)

Fralk ibn Sabbah |

Ratel Dier wrote:Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat..."[/b] Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard....Brv, please have Ratel's attack on Friday apply to the bearded fellow :)
I think the fighter was invisible and took an AoO against you. You being unaware of him.
I hope I'm not adding to the confusion! Oh my.

"Slim" Jim |

Hmm invisible combatants are going to be tricky to deal with. If they 5' step away, I suppose we need to use a move action and pass a DC 20 perception check to pinpoint which square they're in now (unless there's only 1 choice).

Ratel Dier |

Ratel Dier wrote:Ratel Dier wrote:Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat..."[/b] Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard....Brv, please have Ratel's attack on Friday apply to the bearded fellow :)I think the fighter was invisible and took an AoO against you. You being unaware of him.
I hope I'm not adding to the confusion! Oh my.
The aoo would have been against Jim, he attacked first and Ratel is fighting with a reach weapon.

Fralk ibn Sabbah |

Fralk ibn Sabbah wrote:The aoo would have been against Jim, he attacked first and Ratel is fighting with a reach weapon.Ratel Dier wrote:Ratel Dier wrote:Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat..."[/b] Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard....Brv, please have Ratel's attack on Friday apply to the bearded fellow :)I think the fighter was invisible and took an AoO against you. You being unaware of him.
I hope I'm not adding to the confusion! Oh my.
See, I goofed! You are right!

brvheart |

correct, he was invisible until the AOO. Your bars are causing a problem. Can you cut it down to at most 2 please?

Ratel Dier |

It is hiding the creature who is a human fighter. Pleast cut off one of the bars Ratel
I'll try, not sure how to.
Edit: Also, someone, other than me, moved Ratel next to the pink fighter. Which was incorrect. Ratel is fighting with the long spear so he would be using reach to attack the fighter.

brvheart |

brvheart wrote:It is hiding the creature who is a human fighter. Pleast cut off one of the bars RatelI'll try, not sure how to.
Edit: Also, someone, other than me, moved Ratel next to the pink fighter. Which was incorrect. Ratel is fighting with the long spear so he would be using reach to attack the fighter.
Ok, but two diagonals is 15' if you are not a large creature.

Ratel Dier |

I'm not sure what the confusion was. Before combat started I had Ratel just north of the door. He 5 ft stepped northwest, to where I have him placed now. I'm not sure what diagonals you're talking about. Here is Ratels original postRatel Dier wrote:Ok, but two diagonals is 15' if you are not a large creature.brvheart wrote:It is hiding the creature who is a human fighter. Pleast cut off one of the bars RatelI'll try, not sure how to.
Edit: Also, someone, other than me, moved Ratel next to the pink fighter. Which was incorrect. Ratel is fighting with the long spear so he would be using reach to attack the fighter.
Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat. As he steps forwards he tells the ape, "I'll deal with you in a second." Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard.
- 16 HP, 5 ft step Full attack +2 glass-steel demon bane longspear, flankPA, PF if needed
[dice=attack]1d20+13+2+2-3 [dice=damage]1d8+7+2+9
[dice=attack]1d20+8+2+2-3 [dice=damage]1d8+7+2+9
I realize, other than calling the bearded fellow that just appeared a wizard, I'm not sure what I did wrong or why he's being moved.

brvheart |

the two diagonals to the dire ape. But attacking the fighter, he is 15' away.brvheart wrote:I'm not sure what the confusion was. Before combat started I had Ratel just north of the door. He 5 ft stepped northwest, to where I have him placed now. I'm not sure what diagonals you're talking about. Here is Ratels original postRatel Dier wrote:Ok, but two diagonals is 15' if you are not a large creature.brvheart wrote:It is hiding the creature who is a human fighter. Pleast cut off one of the bars RatelI'll try, not sure how to.
Edit: Also, someone, other than me, moved Ratel next to the pink fighter. Which was incorrect. Ratel is fighting with the long spear so he would be using reach to attack the fighter.Ratel Dier wrote:Seeing Jim approach from the north, Ratel decides the wizard is the most immediate threat. As he steps forwards he tells the ape, "I'll deal with you in a second." Dropping the tip of his longspear, he thrusts it twice at the wizard.
- 16 HP, 5 ft step Full attack +2 glass-steel demon bane longspear, flankPA, PF if needed
[dice=attack]1d20+13+2+2-3 [dice=damage]1d8+7+2+9
[dice=attack]1d20+8+2+2-3 [dice=damage]1d8+7+2+9I realize, other than calling the bearded fellow that just appeared a wizard, I'm not sure what I did wrong or why he's being moved.

Ratel Dier |

the two diagonals to the dire ape. But attacking the fighter, he is 15' away.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Terodius Mitrakin |

Ok, I am taking this to the discussion thread, because I don't want to clutter the main thread...
Terodius Mitrakin wrote:...2) I was protected by Thoron's GoI - I have not been fireballed ......
2) No. As it keeps Thoron from casting any spells himself he does not wear The Girding of Mitra. I don't think anyone that has owned the three has..
So once again, everyone IS HIT BY THE FIREBALL>
...
Globe of Invulnerability doesn't do that: "... Any type of spell, however, can be cast through or out of the magical globe... Note that spell effects are not disrupted unless their effects enter the globe, and even then they are merely suppressed, not dispelled."
If you are inside the globe, you can chuck spells at stuff outside the globe with no issues...

brvheart |

Regardless, you are presuming things that happened prior to you being a member of the party. The alternative is Thoron uses the Topaz to surpress the ability for 1-5 rounds in order to receive spells which he never does. I have been running this module for 40 years now and almost no one has chosed to wear all three at once. It comes with too many resctrictions. I would appreciate no more comment on this.

Ratel Dier |

@Party - Leave the hydra! It can't pursue us through these man-sized doorways. This is a hammer and anvil ambush. Rather than let them play divide and conquer on us, we want to move away from the anvil, and focus all our efforts on the hammer. After that's done, we can come back to fight the anvil at our convenience...
@Jim, next action, delay for Ratel to act; hopefully between us we will have taken out 'Hargo'; then you can rush the wizard (green box). Even if we haven't taken our Hargo - rush the wizard anyways (eat the AoO), we need to get pressure on him!
While your tactics are sound, I have a mechanical question and an RP request.
The mechanical question, do the characters know that the wizard is in the hallway? I realize we the players do, but to the characters.
The RP request. Not bad ideas, but I/Ratel will be more likely to respond to comments from the character in game.

brvheart |
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Terodius Mitrakin wrote:@Party - Leave the hydra! It can't pursue us through these man-sized doorways. This is a hammer and anvil ambush. Rather than let them play divide and conquer on us, we want to move away from the anvil, and focus all our efforts on the hammer. After that's done, we can come back to fight the anvil at our convenience...
@Jim, next action, delay for Ratel to act; hopefully between us we will have taken out 'Hargo'; then you can rush the wizard (green box). Even if we haven't taken our Hargo - rush the wizard anyways (eat the AoO), we need to get pressure on him!
While your tactics are sound, I have a mechanical question and an RP request.
The mechanical question, do the characters know that the wizard is in the hallway? I realize we the players do, but to the characters.
The RP request. Not bad ideas, but I/Ratel will be more likely to respond to comments from the character in game.
no the party has no idea

Ratel Dier |

Haffrung casts Cone of cold on the three of you
It doesn't look like Haffrung moved, Ratel gets an AoO to see if he gets that spell off, right?

"Slim" Jim |

Brv can we redirect Jim's attack to the wizard? Thanks!

brvheart |

Brv can we redirect Jim's attack to the wizard? Thanks!
I did but moving 10' you only get 1 attack

brvheart |

brvheart wrote:Haffrung casts Cone of cold on the three of youIt doesn't look like Haffrung moved, Ratel gets an AoO to see if he gets that spell off, right?
Negative, he is displaced and thus is not subject to AOO.

Terodius Mitrakin |

Ok, I am travelling from 25 Sept to Oct 2. I hope to be able to keep up with posting, but if not, feel free to bot me...

brvheart |

Ok, I am travelling from 25 Sept to Oct 2. I hope to be able to keep up with posting, but if not, feel free to bot me...
Yeah, I have zero know inq so if someone wants to volunteer to bob I open to that.

Ratel Dier |

Just a heads up. I'm headed out of town this afternoon. My laptop is broken enough I can't take it with me, so I won't be back online/in games until sometime Sunday afternoon