
GM Derek |

Has the game stalled? Are we just waiting for Doc's Diplomacy roll? GM Derek, can you roll for him? It looks like he last posted on gameplay almost 2 weeks ago. Hope he is alright.
Any limits on what we can purchase? Can we upgrade from a +1 item to a +2 with the cost difference or have to purchase separately?
Game has not stalled, I don't think. This is the natural murderhobo counting the loot and planning purchases part of the game. Normally, I'd roleplay some of the in-town interactions to buy stuff, but I'm slammed at work for the next 10 days (out of town, actually), so you should equip yourselves and we'll handwave the bargaining roleplay at the forge.

GM Derek |

Any limits on what we can purchase? Can we upgrade from a +1 item to a +2 with the cost difference or have to purchase separately?
You can upgrade non-unique armor and weapons with bonuses (+1 +2 +3 etc) by paying the cost difference.

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

I'm good to go with the 15,618 gp. IF we want to buy more CLW wands, I'm happy to chip in.
Is it possible to purchase a Wayfinder?

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Ayita will offer up to about 4000 gp to get more CLW wands but also to help fund restoration spells for Doc and whoever else needs them.

GM Derek |

I'm good to go with the 15,618 gp. IF we want to buy more CLW wands, I'm happy to chip in.
Is it possible to purchase a Wayfinder?
A Wayfinder is certainly available.

GM Derek |

Ayita will offer up to about 4000 gp to get more CLW wands but also to help fund restoration spells for Doc and whoever else needs them.
Ayita brings up a good point. Don't forget to pay for the restorations.

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Frantino had already deducted the cost of the restorations & 3 CLW Wands out of the cost. Without selling the Clay Golem Manual we would each get 15,618 gp each.
You can upgrade non-unique armor and weapons with bonuses (+1 +2 +3 etc) by paying the cost difference.
What about magic items worn such as rings or cloaks, etc.?

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It's also slower, and sometimes speedy access to hit points is critical. Hopefully we'll have enough spellcaster healing though, Doc has a lot.
Perhaps a few potions would be good, or scrolls; scrolls are cheaper.

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Draft list of drain/level issues:
Ezranadir: -5 Con drain
Nasir: -5 Con drain
Doc: Down 1 level (was 2, 1 was restored)
Anything else?

Frantino Kaddren |

The GM posted in the main chat last week what the costs were and we took care of it, I recommended that we pay for the spellcasting out of group funds and no one suggested otherwise. I already subtracted it from the group loot and the 15,618 gp we each get is after these expenses (and buying 3 wands) were handled.
The trip back to Magnimar is successful. Upon your arrival, a representative of the Sihedron Council invites you all to report back on what you've discovered.
Doc, Nasir, and Ezranadir will miss the council meeting, as the are seeking spellcasting services to address their various infirmities.
Costs: 1280gp for Doc, 280gp for Nasir and Ezranadir, each. The Sihedron Council is unable to cast these for you at this time. You'll need to find somebody else in time.
This will resolve Con drain.
@DOC - this resolves your remaining negative level. Remember to update your character sheet to return yourself to normal 7th level functioning.

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Wonderful, thank you!
Ayita, Ter, and Yazhi go shopping. They try to get you others to go with them, but you might have had experience already with Ayita's love of examining colorful Varisian scarves over multiple hours.

GM Derek |

Frantino had already deducted the cost of the restorations & 3 CLW Wands out of the cost. Without selling the Clay Golem Manual we would each get 15,618 gp each.
GM Derek wrote:You can upgrade non-unique armor and weapons with bonuses (+1 +2 +3 etc) by paying the cost difference.What about magic items worn such as rings or cloaks, etc.?
Yes.

GM Derek |

Are we going to use the Clay Golem Manual or sell it & split the gold? Would like to know before shopping.
Per previous post, it cannot be used. Selling it for 50% is an option.

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That would provide 6000gp, I think?
The group could get for this:
Scroll
Scroll case
3 Restoration spells (700gp each)
3 x 1000gp in diamond dust
or
1 Raise Dead spell
a 5000gp diamond
(we'd have to put in a little more than 6000gp for that)
(Assuming someone has a decent chance of casting successfully from the scroll)

GM Derek |

Sorry for delay in posting. Traveling on business until Friday, so posting is intermittent.

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Hi GM Derek - I know you're busy traveling, just wanted to be sure you saw the DM I sent.

GM Derek |

Please update your characters with new loot, equipment and revised/healed abilities (I'm lookin' at Doc's neg level) by Monday.

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What do people think about using most of the gold from selling the golem manual for 3 scrolls of Restoration, with 3K gp diamond dust?

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A note: I've rebuilt Ayita a bit w/GM Derek's approval; she is now Hunter 7 instead of Hunter 6 / Rogue 1. The "Patient Ambusher" Hunter Archetype provides trapfinding, with the addition of building traps, and subtracting some hunter team feats etc. Adds level 3 spells, gives better BAB. In most other ways she is similar; she still has Ter and Yazhi.
In the Magnimar Market she picked up a bunch of alchemy fires and other trap-related gear and is planning to play with them in the new traps she's learned. Occasional explosions might happen. (The traps aren't that powerful though.)
Draft Magnimar purchase list 3/01/2025
2 x Cloak of Resistance +1 (1 for each animal). 2000gp
+2str Composite Longbow upgraded to +3str, +1 magical Composite Longbow . 2400gp
+2 Headband Aerial Agility - wisdom. 4500gp
+1 studded leather traded for group's +1 lamellar leather armor --
+1 Amulet of Natural Armor (free from group)
+1 Amulet of Might Fists (for Yazhi) 4000gp
For traps: Alchemy fire(x9) (180gp)
Twine, Wire, Adamantine wire saw (150gp), pitons
Blackberry brandy (20gp), Critter treats (20gp)
Blunt Arrows (20), more Regular Arrows (now has 40)
Scarfs, snacks

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

We have 8 Alchemists fire in our loot that you can have. No need to buy.

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

That would provide 6000gp, I think?
The group could get for this:
Scroll
Scroll case3 Restoration spells (700gp each)
3 x 1000gp in diamond dustor
1 Raise Dead spell
a 5000gp diamond(we'd have to put in a little more than 6000gp for that)
(Assuming someone has a decent chance of casting successfully from the scroll)
I say we split the money and if you want, contribute to a pool for scrolls.

GM Derek |

2 x Cloak of Resistance +1 (1 for each animal). 2000gp
Ter can't fly with a cloak on. Nor can Yazhi run with a cloak, without tripping.
I think there are other resistanct/protection items made for animal companions.

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Ayita of the Hawk Clan wrote:2 x Cloak of Resistance +1 (1 for each animal). 2000gp
Ter can't fly with a cloak on. Nor can Yazhi run with a cloak, without tripping.
I think there are other resistanct/protection items made for animal companions.
Ok. I haven't found any resistance items for them; there are rings, but I don't think Ter or Yazhi get those slots.
A note - She's sold the Carpet of Flying, partly to get the Ring of Maniacal Devices. A high Disable Device skill is good for the group.
Ayita uses her share from the Golem to get a Scroll of Restoration plus diamond dust. The scroll is in a watertight scroll box.

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I had to find a message from the GM from 2022. :)
Hatfield gets a restoration for the neg level (1,000 GP) and purchases headband of mental prowess +2 (10,000 gp).
Looks like, in my error about neg levels, I missed the fact that I never took my 7th level revelation. Hatfield can now Channel Positive Energy.

Frantino Kaddren |

Hatfield gets a restoration for the neg level (1,000 GP) and purchases headband of mental prowess +2 (10,000 gp).
No need for you to pay for a restoration to fix the permanent negative level, we paid 1280 gp out of the group loot before we split up the remaining funds.

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With the sale of the Golem Manual and adding his own funds & the GM's permission, he purchases:
Headband of Intellect +2 upgrade to +4 (12,000 gp)
Cloak of Protection +1 upgrade to +2 (3,000 gp)
Purchase 4th level spell - Firewalker's Meditation (160 gp)
Purchase 4th level spell - Greater Celestial Healing (160 gp)
Purchase 4th level spell - Purge Spirit (160 gp)
Purchase spell component - Soothing Incense (x2)(800 gp)
Purchase spell component - Ink consisting of squid secretion & black dragon blood (x2)(500 gp)
Purchase spell component - Vial of Holy Water (50 gp)
Total cost - 16,830 gp

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It sounds like our characters have a little more gold, then;
we're not paying for Doc's restoration, and we split up the Golem sale proceeds.
6000+1000? / 4 = 1750 or more?

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It sounds like our characters have a little more gold, then;
we're not paying for Doc's restoration, and we split up the Golem sale proceeds.
6000+1000? / 4 = 1750 or more?
As Frantino stated, he had already subtracted the cost for all of the restorations & negative level fix for Doc. The Council paid for the cost of the Raise Dead & Restoration spell for returning only 1 negative level. Doc was still down 1 negative level so that was taken care of. The total funds everyone gets is 15,618 + sale of golem manual 6000/5 (there are 5 party members) = 16,818 gp.
Also, Doc, the headband of alluring charisma upgrade from +2 to +4 would cost 12,000 gp. (+2 cost 4,000 & +4 cost 16,000. The difference is 12,000 gp).

GM Derek |

Ayita wrote:It sounds like our characters have a little more gold, then;
we're not paying for Doc's restoration, and we split up the Golem sale proceeds.
6000+1000? / 4 = 1750 or more?
As Frantino stated, he had already subtracted the cost for all of the restorations & negative level fix for Doc. The Council paid for the cost of the Raise Dead & Restoration spell for returning only 1 negative level. Doc was still down 1 negative level so that was taken care of. The total funds everyone gets is 15,618 + sale of golem manual 6000/5 (there are 5 party members) = 16,818 gp.
Also, Doc, the headband of alluring charisma upgrade from +2 to +4 would cost 12,000 gp. (+2 cost 4,000 & +4 cost 16,000. The difference is 12,000 gp).
Re: Doc's levels - Ezranadir is correcct. Doc was down TWO, but only a single Restoration is possible at a time. So, upon return to Magnimar, he needs a second Restoration cast to return him to full 7th level functioning. The second Restoration is not covered by the Sihedron Council.

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Sorry so spacey... I need a smart familiar in real life.

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

Added in the extra gp from the Golem manual to my loot.
Here are my transactions:
Sold +2 Chainmail
Bought +2 Deathless Plate Mail
Bought Wayfinder
Upgraded sword from +1 Scimitar to +1 Flaming Scimitar
Bought Ring of Protection +1
I have some money left over that I would contribute toward more wands of CLW, but if that's not needed, I will just use it to buy some emergency CLW potions.
It sounds like we will be in town for a while, so maybe we don't need to make this decision now?

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

I'm going to take Frantino's advice and not buy the ring of protection so that I have enough money to buy an Elixir of spirit sight and a scroll of fly.

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Ezranadir has the ability to cast Fly (7 min) or Gaseous Form which lasts twice as long but you cannot attack up to 4x/day but takes up all of his 3rd level spell slots.
Also, I misstated the cost of Purchasing spell component - Ink consisting of squid secretion & black dragon blood (x2)(500gp). It is actually 60gp so purchasing X5 at 300gp & purchasing x2 potions of CLW at 100gp, & Ivory Plaque worth 50gp.

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There is also Holy Weapon Balm, at just 30 gp per pot. It makes more sense to use for arrows... Ayita will buy several at the market.
"This violet balm comes in a small ceramic pot. When applied to a weapon as a standard action, it forms a transparent coating. Weapons coated in this balm deal an additional 2d4 points of damage to undead or evil outsiders. A creature affected by the balm must succeed at a DC 10 Reflex save or take an additional 1d4 points of damage the following round. Any nonmagical weapon coated with the balm affects incorporeal undead or evil outsiders as if it were a magic weapon. Any magic weapon coated with the balm affects incorporeal undead or evil outsiders as if the weapon had the ghost touch special ability. The balm remains effective until you make a successful attack with the weapon or until 1 minute has passed, whichever is sooner. Each dose of balm can coat one weapon or 10 pieces of ammunition."

GM Derek |

@GM Derek, Do we know what a Morhg is other than it's undead? What about its abilities, special attacks, immunities and such?
It's tongue, while not causing damage, will paralyze you if it touches you.

GM Derek |

TALISMANS OF FREEDOM
There were eight of these talismans. Frantino & Ezranadir split them. Nobody else used them.
Frantino 1 - vs Blightspawn
Frantino 2 - vs spider queen
Frantino 3 - vs tiger grab
Frantino 4 - vs mohrg
Ezranadir1 - vs spider queen
Ezranadir2 -
Ezranadir3 -
Ezranadir4 -

GM Derek |

TALISMANS OF FREEDOM
There were eight of these talismans. Frantino & Ezranadir split them. Nobody else used them.
Frantino 1 - vs Blightspawn
Frantino 2 - vs spider queen
Frantino 3 - vs tiger grab
Frantino 4 - vs mohrg
Frantino 5 -
Ezranadir1 - vs spider queen
Ezranadir2 -
Ezranadir3 -

GM Derek |

I'm out of the country until Wednesday. Won't be able to post until then.

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

While looking for stuff we might have for trade with this gargoyle, I took the time to clean up our loot sheet on Roll20. Unfortunately, we sold a ton of strange things we might have been able to trade here, but thems da breaks.
So I was checking the thread here and it looks like we never settled on who is getting the Ring of Protection +1, Amulet of Natural Armor +1, and the Ring of Feather Falling we still have. Any takers? If so, speak up and I'll update the loot sheet to distribute it to you.

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While looking for stuff we might have for trade with this gargoyle, I took the time to clean up our loot sheet on Roll20. Unfortunately, we sold a ton of strange things we might have been able to trade here, but thems da breaks.
So I was checking the thread here and it looks like we never settled on who is getting the Ring of Protection +1, Amulet of Natural Armor +1, and the Ring of Feather Falling we still have. Any takers? If so, speak up and I'll update the loot sheet to distribute it to you.
Sure, if nobody else needs 'em.
Thanks for managing the loot!

Nasir al-Rafik Kamal |

Okay. I'll assign them to you. I know that was talk about maybe you using talismans instead of the Amulet of Natural Armor, but not sure whatever happened with that.