Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Daenan, Aubrey, Walker:
Aubrey: I may have misstated, but I intended to be one square to the left of where I landed on the map. I presume that would mean that Daenan's move would be 5' further left on his turn as I believe he was planning to be adjacent to the sabretooth.
Daenan stabs at the leder but some sort of magical barrier defeats his thrust. The old man just smirks. The dragon takes to the air and swoops overhead before landing on the beach behind Rish-cat. It spins, jaws wide.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Daenen, Aubrey, Walker:
The metagamer wants to RUN RUN RUN. The player thinks this might be one of the shortest-lived characters I've every played...
The sabretooth spins in response to the bite, charging and pouncing on the massive lizard.
Cyriphrain grabs the warrior and he, the warrior and Ujarak roll about in a tangle by the entrance. Cedric lashes out again with the brand and Ward gets to his feet. "Come on, lads, let's get this done!" yells Ward as he aims a kick at the warriors head.
Well I got 5 AoO so for simplicity let's say #1-5 in the same order. Mainly posting before bed(so hopefully no mistakes) in case a crit happens since that could actually change the battlefield(well a normal one might I don't know their HP)
To Hit #1:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (16) + 9 = 25dmg:1d8 + 11 ⇒ (1) + 11 = 12 To Hit #2:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (15) + 9 = 24dmg:1d8 + 11 ⇒ (7) + 11 = 18 To Hit #3:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (6) + 9 = 15dmg:1d8 + 11 ⇒ (2) + 11 = 13 To Hit #4:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (2) + 9 = 11dmg:1d8 + 11 ⇒ (7) + 11 = 18 To Hit #5:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (6) + 9 = 15dmg:1d8 + 11 ⇒ (7) + 11 = 18
Daenan takes full advantage of his longer reach and punishes those closing in.
HP 8/36
although this may change based off of those beastly damage rolls Daenan did...
1.) Swift Action: Scout sphere vs dragon.
arcana, DC 10+CR:1d20 + 9 ⇒ (18) + 9 = 27 This only reveals the target’s weaknesses, or lack thereof, (such as damage reduction types and vulnerabilities), and does not reveal any additional information about the target.
2.) free 5ft step to N11
3.) free action (Quick Draw): draw bow
4.) standard action: attack action: draw (Fast Draw talent) an improved acid flask and throw it at W2. This will do full damage to the target and all within 5ft. It will also hit W5 for a single point of acid damage. Controlled Rupture allows me to exclude myself and Daenan.
thrown flask ranged touch atk:1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15 acid damage:3d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 5) = 12
REF DC 16 halves damage for all except the main target (W2) who gets no save
Targets who take at least 2 points of acid damage from the initial attack take half the total damage again on the following round.
also i want to specifically see does this splash inside the cave or does it stop against a barrier (that dotted line).
5.) move action:load bow
"Go back where you came from! We belong to no one!"
One of the warriors shrieks as his flesh blisters horribly and he collapses. But the others manage to avoid the worst of Walker's acid.
W2 down.
The leader grits his teeth and casts s spell.
Concentration check 1d20 + 9 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 9 + 4 = 19 v DC 17 for the ongoing effect of the acid.
Unholy Blight, affecting Rish, Walker and Daeanan. 4d8 ⇒ (8, 6, 5, 8) = 27 damage. If you are Good, you are Sickened for 1d4 ⇒ 4 rounds, but a DC 18 Will save halves the damage and negates the Sickened effect. If you are not Good, you take half damage which can be reduced by half again by a Will save, and you are not Sickened either way.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Daenan, Aubrey, Walker:
Will DC 18:1d20 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10
Kaerishidlon is not good-aligned, so he takes 13 points of damage.
will save dc18:1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25 not good-aligned, so damage is 13 halved by my save making it 6 taken.
1. did my character see if the acid splashed against that dotted line or splashed past it? he was specifically looking for that.
2. did i get my scout on the dragon?
3. i read it wrong (didnt read, assumed), there is no reflex save. i assumed there was a reflex save since it was an area, but there isnt one in the ability description. thinking that was an oversight, i looked at the basic pathfinder alchemical thrown weapons and there isnt one on those either. so they all should have taken full damage.
3. on the beginning of their turn, the enemies will take 6 acid damage (except W4 who did not take damage to incur ongoing damage, and W5 will only take 1 damage since his original damage was 3)
4. the leader's concentration check should have been DC 20 due to the fact of there being no save. his damage would not have been halved by a save, therefore there would have been a higher DC. Up to you if you wanna retcon that since i goofed up here anyway.
And this is why I'm not keen on you having this bespoke character. You don't seem to know how it works and I certainly don't, so I can't correct you if you make a mistake. And I have no idea if what you are telling me is correct now, either.
I can jump out if it is disruptive. Just kill Walker off if you need to. Don't retcon it if you dont want to, it is totally understandable as i was the one who made the mistake.
OK, retcon, the spell fizzles, Daenan is not unconscious, no one takes damage from the spell. W3 also succumbs to the acid.
The dragon is vulnerable to fire. As for where the acid went, you haven't explained to me how this thing really works so I can't be sure. However, if it affects targets within 5', and since the dotted line is at 5', I would assume the acid doesn't go beyond.
makes sense RE:acid. it is an area effect and i wanted to see if that dotted line was the intangible barrier mentioned earlier when one of the others had an attack that failed due to a barrier of some sort. I wanted to see if i had a shot at running into that tunnel.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Ok, sorry if I was grumpy last night - I was tired. And potentially being confronted with an over-powerful PC.
However, it appears that Tenro was right the first time and that those caught in Walker's splash area get a Reflex save. It is written in his character sheet under the general rules for formulas and I assume is a cut and paste from the rules he is using. That seems reasonable and puts the damage on a reasonable par with similar characters, e.g. alchemists' bombs and so on, so I am reasonably content that this is balanced. However, Tenro has neglected to put the specifics of the Acid formula (i.e. the one he just used) in his character sheet, so I would be grateful if he would so I can get an idea how it works and scales per level.
So, since no one has posted yet, I am re-retconning the situation back to where it was before. Daenan is unconscious, Rish and Walker have taken the damage from the Unholy Blight.
Regarding the dotted line, bear in mind that is player knowledge from reading the map, not PC knowledge - Walker is unaware of any dotted line and so cannot check for its existence. But actually all it signifies is the location of the cave mouth roof.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Daenan, Aubrey, Walker:
Ouch. Correcting hp. I think it is the dragon’s go since Daenan is lying in the sand.
As Rish collapses with the pain, the dragon snakes out its head to seize Walker in its jaws.
Bite attack on Walker (the bite has 15' reach and you conveniently strayed into it with your movement)
1d20 + 16 ⇒ (19) + 16 = 35 to hit, damage 2d9 + 9 ⇒ (3, 2) + 9 = 14
It then shifts 5' closer.
The warriors rush to close and finish Walker but as they raise their clubs the leader barks an order and they pause. He looks at Walker expectantly, a smile playing on his lips. The dragon looms behind Walker, poised and waiting.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Daenan, Aubrey, Walker:
Kaerishidlon collapses with the dragon's strike. -5, so rolling for stabilization
ah, looks like it is in there, nestled away from where it would be written normally, which is why i missed it when scanning through again and my initial assumption was right. regarding dotted line, i was trying to see if that was the "invisible barrier" we were made aware of earlier. if that is not the invisible barrier, then his paying attention to it would have made no difference.
walker readies an action to attack if he is attacked. he will keep this ready every turn until he sleeps.
"Alright, well now that my friend who insulted you is down for the count, I suppose I speak for our group. We'll go peaceably, but I won't be surrendering. I will walk, unbound, with you and we can talk. Perhaps I can even be of use to you, I am a healer."
The man smiles. "Of course! We can stand here and discuss what you like. We have plenty of time for that. But in the meantime your friends will bleed to death." He goes down on one knee and casts a quick spell on the warrior who collapsed. "As you see, we don't need a healer. And we can kill you easily, but I don't want to lose any more men in the process if I don't have to. So will you just stand there and let your friends die? Or will you surrender, and save them as well as yourself?"
Walker watches him cast the spell. "Why don't we wait and see? If you don't need a healer, perhaps we could peaceably drink and come up with some other way I can remain helpful while free."
spellcraft:1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12what spell did he cast?
not a fan of lost player agency under any guise, so you're going to have to kill me or knock me out. i'd only give up my stuff if it meant sure escape, i could make more later. but i won't willingly give up my stuff and surrender to these folks. and if my stuff goes missing i will be very problematic about it later on. not trying to make it an issue now, just letting you know so you can decide if you want to kill walker or just knock him out. Either way i will take my readied action which will be my last acid (which i will add to my sheet if i survive, to correct my previous oversight).
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
[spoiler=Daenan, Aubrey, Walker]
-6 and rolling for stabilization Stabilization:1d20 + 1 - 6 ⇒ (20) + 1 - 6 = 15
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
Sorry about the spoiler, Aubrey. It’s too late to fix now.
OK, there've been comments about railroading and so on. I think it's best if Walker and Daenan leave the game, as it won't be to your tastes and you won't enjoy it. I thank you both for being honest with me, and I think I should be honest with you. Thank you both for taking part, hopefully I will see you around the boards.
And if others have qualms, please let me know now.
You know you are probably right. Was gonna wait and see as I noted in the PM, but really no reason to let the taste grow more sour. So happy gaming to the rest of ya'll.
PS. For those knowing me that wanna keep in touch shoot me a PM cause I ain't sticking around here.
Male Elf Shifter 4 Minor Aspect | AC 19, T 19, F15, CMD 25 | F 5 R 8 W 5, +2 vs enchantment | hp 16/33 | Init +4 | Perc +11 Stealth +11 Surv +12/13 | Minor aspect 7/8 | Major aspect 8/8 | Darkvision 60', Low-light vision
I'm still here. Sorry to see people unhappy, but ultimately, it's a game. If you aren't having fun, there's little reason to stay.
