Variel's WotR

Game Master Neltji

The reason I mentioned it for Garith is because the Banded mail only allows you to use your Dex up to +1. The breastplate and the elven both allow you to use your entire Dex bonus. And both of them are also at +8. That's why I thought it might be something you'd be interested in.

But, as far as your breakdown is concerned as per the armors, that works for me.

@Pakak: You got it.

herderp, that's a very good point. . . I am a pretty dexy paladin. That is a +2 for me if the others don't mind. I'd really rather enjoy the movement from the Elvin chain

Mael, you mind if i snag that?

I'll take a minute to re-equip before going to the next door.

as for the army, I'd like to get Irabeth in here and with the party and make sure we don't get flanked, and introduce her to Maranse.

I get cleaqring the whole level before letting the civilians in cause we're a bunch of big damn heroes but nows a good opportuity to get out backup.

I'd hate to deprive Irabeth of her grudge-match too.

I'm gonna break this down in the discussion so as not to clutter up the gameplay.

Alright, here's what I'd guess it looks like:

adamantine battleaxe, (Morgrym)
75 +1 arrows (Zeriax)
2 arrows of humane? :) slaying, (Zeriax) Lol! At least Zeriax can slay the bad guys in a nice way. :) It's funny how a simple word changes if you accidentally add a letter that just so happens to fit and give it a whole new meaning. Pretty funny stuff.
a +2 breastplate,
a +1 keen longsword, (Zeriax)
a +1 darkwood composite longbow (+2 str), (Morgrym. It's better than the half-orcs. Initially I was thinking Zeriax but he has one already.)
a +1 flail, (Anybody?)
a +1 mithral heavy shield, (Garith)
a +2 elven chain

Now, according to herolabs, it says elven chain slows. Is this accurate?

And I'm torn on the armor.

Now if Garith picks up either armor, AND he picks up the shield, then his AC increases by 3! That's pretty awesome considering he'd be sporting a solid 25 AC.

Maelchar broke his down in the game thread. (My question on the elven chain slowing was due to your increased movement you listed. I don't see why it would slow seeing how it's made out of mithral. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm also not real trusting of herolabs when it comes to these type of minor rules.)

Morgrym's AC goes up 3 if he uses either one. Which a 20 is obviously waaaaay better than the wimpy 17 I'm sporting right now. Personally, I'm partial to the elven chain because it's less of a hit on the skills. Even though the -2 still makes me cringe, I can't go around rolling with a 17 AC the whole time. I've got to at least be marginally defended.

But regardless of what armor slows, it won't affect Morgrym seeing how he's a dwarf. So it may be beneficial for one of the others to take the elven chain so they can get their movement back. That is, of course, if it doesn't actually slow.

If Zeriax is something, humane it is :D

And obviously the loot distribution is looking good from where I stand (already gave my opinion on the other items).

As for the longsword, I was just commenting - Zeriax can carry and wield it if needed, though I suspect it will never leave its scabbard, so there isn't much point in actually claiming it. If no one wants it, I can keep it until we sell it ;)

Though, actually I'm gonna grab a second longbow - if no one claims that darkwood one, I'll keep it as backup. Just realized I don't have a backup bow :O

Okay, I didn't realize Nasira uses a shield.

I thought Garith was the only one. You know with this new shield, Garith, if you're not gonna take it I'd recommend it going to Nasira. She has just a regular heavy steel shield.
Either that or give her one of your other ones if you decide to take that one. I'd gather the +1 Heavy steel of blinding seeing how you mentioned you like using the light one with the spikes more.

Just an idea though, nothing more.

@Nasira: According to your profile, you have a 21 AC due to armor, shield and dex. But I noticed you have a ring of protection +1. With that being the case, your AC should be 22. :)

@Zeriax: The bow is yours, bud. Ranged combat is Morgrym's last resort anyway.(By the way, I snagged all the half-orc's arrows. If you want any right now or at any time later, just say so because their team arrows! :) Plus, that many of those suckers weigh a bunch.)

Okay, new list:

adamantine battleaxe, (Pakak)
75 +1 arrows (Zeriax)
2 arrows of human slaying, (Zeriax)
a +2 breastplate, (Gar, Mael, Mor)
a +1 keen longsword, (Zeriax)
a +1 darkwood composite longbow (+2 str), (Zeriax)
a +1 flail, (Morgrym. Mainly because nobody really wants it)
a +1 mithral heavy shield, (Garith or Nasira)
a +2 elven chain (Gar, Mael, Mor)

As far as the armor, I'll throw this out there:

With the elven chain, Garith or Maelchar can decide who gets that. Then which ever one does, the other can get the breastplate. And Morgrym will take Maelchar's current armor.

How does that sound?

Well, I don't mind, but then I'm the greedy grabber for spell books so the axe is a nice perk at most right now ;)

When we get some down time, Pakak may try his hand at making magic arms and armor, so gold and materials for it may come handy

Maelchar will defer to Morgrym re: the +2 breastplate and take the NEXT upgrade that comes up that he can wear. Morgrym needs more ac than maelchar does.

You know what, I've contemplated it and I believe I'm gonna have to pass on it. I know it sounds crazy but the ACP is just too much for me. Acrobatics is pretty key for me in attempting to avoid AoO's. And I know that's a crazy reason but I'm good with it. The "cringe" factor at the skill penalty is just too dang unbearable. Even the elven chain was bothering me. I just can't shake it. A -1 I can tolerate but once it gets higher than that then I'm a bit unnerved by it.

So go ahead and grab it, Maelchar, please, Morgrym counts on all you folks to keep him alive anyway. ;)

And let's not forget this: Link to Stuff

I know we haven't "officially" identified the Breastplate armor, but it's something for someone to consider in the future maybe. If Pakak decides to roll with crafting, he can always enhance it further.

Do we have all this stuff written down somewhere? That's a TON of cash we found. If we do have it, where are we keeping it? Do we have a base or something?

I will fix Nasira's AC, thanks.

Nasira will defer on any armor - she will be fine with hand-me-downs. She would happily take a shield if there's one to pass on to her.

There's a link to the loot list at the top of the page. I believe Garith is the keeper of the data.

Okay, the loot list says "Wrath and Winter". Does that mean this stuff also belongs in another game?

And I notice you still have Reiko on there. And also Sam on there. I'm guessing the items they collected should be deleted?

I've added the money but not the items. I've got to go out today and i'll do the list this afternoon. I may try to build a more simple version cause it's kinda a lot to deal with.

I emphasize the bolded part because I think that would be a good idea. Because there is so much going on with the current chart I'm having a hard time deciphering it. Okay, I'll be honest... I'm pretty much lost. :P

I could attempt to help with the list a bit at some point(especially once I figure it out or if you do make a simpler one). I've got that job in another game solely and it is truly time consuming and difficult to keep up with. Posting takes enough of my time as it is. I understand your pain in keeping up with it, Garith. It's brutal.

I will throw out one suggestion: I'd delete the stuff that's been acquired by a pc. It'll help clear things up.

all the itmes that we have listed are in, Just need to get the values added and the list should take care of adding the out balance and the available shares we all have.

Also can People make some roles to verify that we aren't looking at some fake? cause I'd really hate for this to be a demon's trap...

paranoid?

Just waiting for Zeriax, to clue me in

If I understand, we have a lot innocent crusaders bespelled and about to be killed

Can a mythic dispel free them all by breaking the spell itself on them? or can it only get one?

Normally a dispel magic can only affect a single spell. Since the crusaders are each under their own domination spell it would tak multiple castings of dispel magic. However if you are using a mythic point I will grant you the option of either casting a mythic dispel magic on one of the crusaders or a standard dispel magic on both.

Pardon Pakak's snapishness folks. He's not normally a voice of authority on the team, but he feels there's just no excuse for a warrior that skilled to kill bespelled folks when he doesn't have to.

That, and he's feeling a wee bit useless

You are all good Pakak. You have your reasons and Maranse has his. I just hope I am getting the right message across to you all through him.

for ease of accounting I'm going to round off the original weapon cost if it is insignificant. +1 breastplate will be 1350 1000 for the +1 and then 150 for mwk, 200 for the piece of armor. a +1 greatsword, call it 2300, 2000 for the +1, 300 for mwk, and not bothering with the cost of the sword cause it's like 20gp or something insignificant.

Are we gonna leave Reiko in there? It says she owns Radiance.

And I see that both Garith and Maelchar own a +1 Evil Outsider Bane longsword(per character sheets)? If so, you should start using that bad boy, Maelchar. And maybe Garith bust out with some Radiance in one hand and the Bane sword in the other. That'd be cool. Well, except for the minuses involved. Still cool though. :)

Edit: What is "Distro" on the loot list?

It's like Disco but the mirror ball shoots flames at you instead of light spots

Cooooooool. A flaming mirror ball. I wonder if we can take it with us?

And I just fell out on this:

Pakak would like to know its offensive capabilities, what defenses it has against what types of spells/energies, and her phone number, in that order... okay, forget the number.

Good one! And the Jeopardy response was brilliant. I was like: "Well done!" on getting it right. I'm glad Variel didn't ask me because I had NO clue.

+1 to Pakak for the Mythic point gained win!

Who carries the bag of holding?

Who carries the Handy Haversack?

Efficient quiver? That would obviously be good for Zeriax.

And there's like a million scrolls that one of our resident magic people can use.

Distro means Distributed, everybody has an even share of those potions. If we have 6 of them

Not sure who is holding out bags. But we've had them as group loot. I'd say the haversack should go to someone that needs to pull random stuff out, maybe Pakak for scrolls?

So are you gonna keep Reiko in there? Don't mean to be a bothersome punk or rude about this but it is like the 3rd time I've asked. You've either missed the question or just flat choose to ignore me, I'm not sure which.

All I'm looking for is some type of confirmation. If you wanna respond: "I have no desire to respond to that question so stop bugging me about it, chump" then that's fine. No worries. I won't bug you about it again.
I only ask because it doesn't make sense to me as to why she's left in there. I tend to ask about things I don't understand. Sorry, it's a habit.

UNLESS, she's coming back at some point. Then it would make sense.

Also, looking at your loot sheet and how involved it is - and this is a total guess here - it would seem the sheet and its calculations would fly into a "really jacked up" type stage.

Don't mean to offend. Just curious.

sorry, yeah, you're not being a bothersome punk or anything, I've jsut been flaking on replying about her entry, thinking I'm pulling her, and forgetting that i haven't said anything about it.

I pull her and am replacing her entry with yours, just need to tweak a few more things and I'll be able to import the list.

actually Right now I'm making an updated list for this game that's a little more straight forward and easy to work with.

Mael, Looks like the value of the Demonslayer Bane longsword out of your share on the list.

Ah. Gotcha. Thanks!

new list is up, I'll start marking what people have claimed and stuff

People, just wanted to let you know I am going on vacations with my family next Monday, and won't be back until Sunday.

Tomorrow I am probably available to post, and during the remaining days I should have access to a laptop and internet, but as you may presume, RPG is not going to be a priority during these days - it is possible that I may drop a line or three, but feel free to bot me at any given point if needed.

Will do and thanks for heads up.

new list is up, I'll start marking what people have claimed and stuff

Nasira has claimed the wand of bless. I will record it and mark off the charges used for Maranse and Morgrym.

Other things Nasira might claim:

She will hopefully take an upgrade of her armor or shield after the frontliners have their pick.

The wand of spiritual weapon is probably not usable by anyone else, so she'll take it. The wand of cure light wounds with 46 charges appears to be a new item - I need to replace Sam's as I've almost burned it out.

If I remember correctly, Zeriax had claimed:

- Efficent Quiver
- Javelin of Lightning x2 (until we get a chance to sell them)
- Darkwd comp bow +1 (+2) [backup weapon]
- 2 Arrow Human Slaying
- 75 Arrow +1
- 63 C-Iron Arrows
- 46 arrows

Wouldn't mind getting that amulet of Natural Armor if it does not make the frontlines (doubtful ;)

The 46 is the one Sam had, a not a new one. I'll remove it that was my bad

Hey, Zeriax, Morgrym's got 240 arrows. You want like half of 'em? Or like 180 of 'em? 200? Let me know.

Morgrym's obviously only gonna use arrows when he has absolutely no other choice in the matter. So he doesn't really need them all. He's just carrying them because 240 arrows have some weight to them.

• There are two Amulets of NA. But I believe one has yet to be identified. I actually could use 1 of those if that's okay. And I've got no problem waiting on the unidentified one.

• @Nasira: If Mael doesn't claim that +2 Breastplate, you might as well.

• @Mael: Do you really have a +1 and a +2 cloak of resistance? If so, I think the +1 would be good for either Nasira or Pakak.

• @Garith: If you're not gonna claim that Mithral Heavy shield, I'd recommend that going to Nasira. If you do, then maybe you could spare her the +1 Heavy shield of Blinding? Because those are the only two that will actually benefit her.

Man I just noticed that our Bag of Holding is a Type IV! It weighs 60lbs but it holds 1,500 lbs. That's freaking awesome.

And this is what's inside the Bag of Holding IV: Inside is a set of 24 books that give +4 to know planar checks when referenced and are worth 3000gp themselves.

And who wants these:

Ring of the Ram
Ring of Featherfall

I think Pakak wanted the Ring of the Ram, though if I asked for it I never put it on my list. Something about using it to topple towers (Combined with his knowledge skills) if need be

Maelchar and Pakak were going to share the books in the bag of holding if I recall, or at least Pakak asked.

Anything that lets runty wizards carry more is welcome but everyone loves bags of holding

You know, I was thinking the Ring of the Ram would be good for Pakak as well. Take it, bud. Slap that sucker on your sheet. The books too.

As far as the Bag of Holding goes, I figure that thing would be used to hold the loot we all don't want to carry. Honestly, I figure either Morgrym or Pakak - really doesn't matter to me - could carry it seeing how we're dwarves and don't have to sweat encumbrance. That sucker does weigh 60lbs after all.

But it does bring another question to mind: Is encumbrance being kept track of? Or is it something to the effect of: "As long as it's not too ridiculous, don't sweat it" type thing? You know, the whole "Well I've got 8 plate mail armors I want to sell that I just so happen to be carrying around."

I just wanna be clear on how you all are rolling with that.

*Snatches Ring of the Ram* mwhahaha *Puts it on sheet*

For the most part encumber acne is not that big of a deal to me. Everything that is not claimed gets put in the bag of holding until claimed or sold. If you want to claim something out of the bag of holding it is a full round action to get it out that provokes attqcks of opportunity. That keeps items still available but not in combat.

For the most part encumber acne is not that big of a deal to me. Everything that is not claimed gets put in the bag of holding until claimed or sold. If you want to claim something out of the bag of holding it is a full round action to get it out that provokes attacks of opportunity. That keeps items still available but not in combat.

Cool. That's exactly what I was wondering. Thanks!

And I just fell out on this:

Due to an alternate reality affecting the natural order of things in this reality Morgrym misses twice and Maelchar misses once as well.

Lol! Boy ain't THAT the truth. :P

Appreciate you looking over the inventory, Master DeLeon. I will hold off until those with priority have spoken with regards to the armor and shield.

Garith: Bummer about the wand of CLW. I was hoping it was new.

I'd like one of the new armors... would prefer the chain, but will take a breastplate better than +1 if avail. and if I have 2 cloaks, will be happy to put the +1 back in the mix... didn't mean to have 2.

Garith, your character inventory has several armors and shields; it's hard to tell what you are using. Are you using different ones in different scenarios?

It looks like you have an elven chain +2 and a mithril heavy shield on your sheet - are those the ones we just found?

yeah, they are the new ones. Mael, we can swap out after this fight if you want the chain. I was liking the movement, but i can totally swap out for the Plate.

I just added my new stuff, but the Shield of Binding is up for grabs. Haven't had time to put it back on the list.

It's okay - I'd only want it for the increased move rate too - it would give me a 40 move... but I can live with 30 - that way we're both at 30 and can maneuver together more efficiently. I'll take the +2 breastplate if that's okay with everyone.

sweet

Hey, Garith, I went an added names to who owns what. But that's all I did, I promise!
I can also promise you I won't even dare mess with the numbers. I'm not gonna even try to decipher all that. Adding names is easy.

Nasira, I put your name next to the +1 Shield of Blinding. Go ahead and mark that down.

@Nasira: Do you have the wand of Bless with the 18 charges? Is that the wand you used on Morgrym?

I worry Pakak is not the one to sway anyone back to the good side. Not enough Charisma, but he's trying

Actually it was a very nice post, and pretty near to what I was about to post myself, but probably better put. Thanks...

Better schmetter, get to swaying with that 20 charisma, pretty boy

;)

Nasira, I put your name next to the +1 Shield of Blinding. Go ahead and mark that down.

Will do.

@Nasira: Do you have the wand of Bless with the 18 charges? Is that the wand you used on Morgrym?

I do now and it is. I just added it to my list recently.