Still working but I think i will pick the spellscar mystery and build a blaster oracle, to supplement our arcane blasting while still possessing the divine spells for control and such.
Good idea :-)
Updates tomorrow wife wanted to hang out tonight, cramping my game time!
Will post updates Sunday to give the rest of the PC's time to post and Lothhryin time to update his character. That night I will advance the plot to the meeting with your secret benefactor.
Thank you so much, I have a question as well. If I were to build an oracle with a slight focuse on dispelling would I be disappointed in this campaign. Feel free to remain silent if it gives too much away as I have never run it.
IMHO, I don't think a counter spelling build is useless is nearly any campaign. The enemies need clerics and wizards in order to function, especially when they are actually the ruling/civilized class. Perhaps Kingmaker is an exception, but beyond niche campaigns like that, spellcasting is always being thrown at the party.
Thank you so much, I have a question as well. If I were to build an oracle with a slight focuse on dispelling would I be disappointed in this campaign. Feel free to remain silent if it gives too much away as I have never run it.
I am not sure, I have only read through the first installment of the AP. I would agree with Nathaniel though, it can't hurt especially at higher levels where I am sure there will be at least a few spellcasting Heroes you will want to bring low.
The post which begins Act II is up. I know there was some chit chat with the slaves but they are so thoroughly dominated that they simply cater to desires without asking questions.
What will it be ladies and gents, will you all accept the Cardinals offer? :-)
Dispelling will be a good investment. We're going to run into a lot of clerics and angels down the road. Getting rid of things like Consecrate, Magic Circle Against Evil and stuff like that will really pay off.
I'd venture a guess that counter-spelling will be helpful, since one would assume we'll be fighting lots of Paladins and Clerics and good-aligned outsiders. Also, random enemies might have spells or spell-like abilities we can negate if you focus on it. I think it's a good idea.
Once everyone agrees or disagrees we can move on with the scene. :-)
Ok I have decided to go that route however I am tied up until after Christmas with family, and I just got done with a weekend with my friends and I am sorry for my absence. Also my role play may change depending on my character build because I have not chosen my deity yet and that will likely alter things. I think I may end up playing an oracle who does not worship a deity and knows not where her power comes from and is looking for someone to guide them.
Could be interesting to play an Oracle of Mitra who is spiteful and angry about having their life stolen by a god without asking.
I can't imagine that idea working. While it may seem interesting, IMHO any truly devout follower of Mitra would betray Thorn and the rest of the PCs, even if it meant they were personally damned.
Of course that's coming from the guy playing a schizophrenic, multiple-personality CE dragonrider.
I can't imagine that idea working. While it may seem interesting, IMHO any truly devout follower of Mitra would betray Thorn and the rest of the PCs, even if it meant they were personally damned.
The signing of this contract followed by betrayal would certainly be an interesting RP opportunity! Of course it makes it hard to remain WITH the group but I spent 3 years running 7 separate campaigns within the same PbP the characters interacting whenever the storyline deemed that it should happen on my Vamp thread here on the boards so it can be done.
Of course, if I remember correctly Oracles don't have to actually be worshipers of their deity, necessarily. They get their powers much like a sorcerer, so they don't actually have to follow or even like the deity that gifted them their powers. An oracle of Mitra could despise the faith, and seek to remove her from power as the chief religion without any repercussions.
Yeah that's why I considered the godless approach, and while I do not doubt your ability to run it I really dislike pvp cause I always makes me spiteful.
Of course, if I remember correctly Oracles don't have to actually be worshipers of their deity, necessarily. They get their powers much like a sorcerer, so they don't actually have to follow or even like the deity that gifted them their powers. An oracle of Mitra could despise the faith, and seek to remove her from power as the chief religion without any repercussions.
^ This.
Nah, I understand. It makes sense for your character to not respond quite so eagerly as say, Soren did.
Heya gang. I'm not being difficult. Just roleplaying my girl IC.
No worries, well not from the Shining Host anyway. :-)
The Cardinal on the other hand...
Do we have any possessions at the moment or no, also how do you rule divine spells in armor. I have had GM's rule that spell failure applies and some say it doesn't how do you stand.
Spell failure chance absolutely does not apply to divine spells. The full term is "Arcane Spell Failure Chance".
That's part of what makes divine casters like clerics really good; they can benefit from buffing themselves and wading into battle with things like heavy armor without it screwing over their spellcasting.
I had a dm who once refused to think of the rule that way, it was very frustrating but I had to make do no matter what the evidence I provided.
If spell failure effected divine spells, then why would clerics get heavy armor proficiency?
Do we have any possessions at the moment or no, also how do you rule divine spells in armor. I have had GM's rule that spell failure applies and some say it doesn't how do you stand.
On the side of common sense, no spell failure applies to Divine spells while wearing armor.
No possessions for those of you who were locked in prison. Those who came on the transports have gear though.
Yuck, is there anyway to handle this without killing other players no offence to others but I really dislike games that end in that. I understand that if it is necessary so everyone can role play there character correctly than I will oblige but I would love another solution.
Shalewigg signs the contract :-) avoids ugly PVP.
Literally, if the characters refuse to sign, the Cardinal kills you all. Here just one refused to sign so... The Cardinal did not go to Evil clerical school for 6 years to be ignored in his demands!
In many ways this is really a great scenario and I am glad at least one of you put up some resistance.
Well RP'ed Shalewigg!
I have a feeling this will go less "we kill Shalewigg" and more "she signs the contract and already we begin plotting for our inevitable betrayal of Adrastus Thorn", if you ask me. Soren will serve him until such a point that she can exploit the written loophole present in the contract to dispose of him, even disregarding the fact this instance. That's just how Asmodean politics works. Throw in the fact that he's asking her to kill an ally she believes will be key in overthrowing the Mitrans, well...
Besides, we're evil. We have to betray SOMEONE, right? Might as well be him instead of each other.
I have a feeling this will go less "we kill Shalewigg" and more "she signs the contract and already we begin plotting for our inevitable betrayal of Adrastus Thorn", if you ask me. Soren will serve him until such a point that she can exploit the written loophole present in the contract to dispose of him, even disregarding the fact this instance. That's just how Asmodean politics works. Throw in the fact that he's asking her to kill an ally she believes will be key in overthrowing the Mitrans, well...
Besides, we're evil. We have to betray SOMEONE, right? Might as well be him instead of each other.
That's just crazy talk ;-)
I think the Shining Host is handling the matter pretty well. Signing really isn't a choice. It's either join him or die. I'm pretty surprised Aurex even got that little caveat.
I think the Shining Host is handling the matter pretty well. Signing really isn't a choice. It's either join him or die. I'm pretty surprised Aurex even got that little caveat.
Dragons lifetimes span the millenia, thus dealing with them is different to be sure. Still considering the wording on that contract :-)
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I specifically asked not to be required to worship Asmodeus. It was granted on the grounds that I was not a divine caster, held no god, and maintained a good story without screwing up the party.
Now that was out of character, and I've stayed in character pretty well. I'm just not super fond of my request from before character creation being ignored. So I'll find a way to sign this contract in character, but "sign or everyone dies" doesn't mean much to a serial killer who was ale=ready consigned to death.
We'll see how this next one goes.
I had a character in a another WotW game that re-wrote the contract in a way that the Cardinal found sufficient. It mostly involved some legalistic writing and a good diplomacy check.
It's an unfortunate aspect of the Adventure Path that essentially requires the PCs to sign the contract and work for Asmodeus. As I understand it, the contract is symbolic, and not actually any kind of Geas or Curse. Lying is an option.
Part of signing on to play the Way of the Wicked adventure path is following Asmodeus. I have no problem with a little difficult roleplaying as long as it doesn't get some or all of us GM bolted by Thorn (who I'm sure if far beyond our capabilities right now).
The fact of the matter is that serving Admodeus is the major theme of the campaign.
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Sure it is. And Shalewigg will. But when we began this whole endeavor, I offered a number of choices for PCs and Shalewigg was the one the GM chose. Part of the deal was she served Famine, but wouldn't try to betray Asmodeus or the PCs. Just a chance to add flavor to the game while still carrying the campaign out as designed. Also...Shalewigg's inclusion was supposed to underscore the reality that fiends use each other, including their worshipers. Daemons, going all the way back to yugoloths, have a mercenary relationship with demons and devils. If the campaign starts with "you signed a Faustian deal, now you worship Asmodeus and you're Lawful evil", that's boring and I should have played someone different.
Might be this is the product of having to go through three GMs to find someone worthy of our party, but I think Shining Host exchanged a few messages about this to make sure.
In any event, the contract is more or less signed as offered. As long as Shalewigg's alignment and eternal destiny remain unchanged, all is well and we can get to killing fools.
I wouldn't argue that the AP as written is boring by any stretch.
But Thorn can be played many different ways. I'll let our GM handle it how he sees fit, I'm sure he has something up his sleeve.
I just wanted to make sure everyone can role play there characters properly without them having to die. I understand the necessity of signing the contract I was just voicing my concern of possible future events. Also I have decided to go with a flame oracle for some blasting because it's fun and the dispel idea comes online to late for what I want.
Unrelated is Aurex in a human form at the moment.
Yes Aurex is in human form.
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Please send me your wish lists up to 1,500 GP including magic items for the Cardinal to supply to you.
~Wishlist~
+1 Chain shirt barding (1400gp)
Potion of CLW x2 (50gp each)
May I suggest we consider pooling some money and getting a wand of cure light wounds because potions are so expensive, and i have a 10 umd which allows a very reasonable chance of success. Or if we want to rock the evil theme a little more a wand of infernal healing is similar. Thoughts?
I second the idea of getting a healing wand, but I would suggest a wand of infernal healing instead. It is more bang for you buck, although it doesn't heal as quickly. Plus it is very thematically appropriate.
And Lothryin, you're an oracle. You can use either wand without a UMD check since the spells are both on your spell list.