The Avalon Chronicles

Game Master lynora

This is a high level rules light game set in a school for magical kids, kinda a mash-up of Soul Eater, Harry Potter, and X-Men. :)


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Male Human Gestalt: Binder 16, Wizard (Enchanter) 6

Lose 2 feet in hight =) +4 vs poison +2 con


Human being Game Master and all round good egg
lynora wrote:

Fun fact about Aananda: her superpower is being able to copy and improve any tech she sees. She now has the tech and the know-how to build an AI. Has for a while. Hasn't. She actually really disagrees with some of the basic assumptions of Culture well, culture, and is choosing to take a different direction. This is part of why the nanites aren't given enough intelligence to be considered sentient.

Lyn and any one, I just had I think about this and its a bit shocking,really,:

Lets for the sake of a debate view point, you split the camps of sentient in to
Mecha and Orga, now "Aananda: her superpower is being able to copy and improve any tech she sees" If you place ALL sentient Mecha under the term
"Tech" it means she can control and manipulate all Tech and sentient Mecha/tech, in other words (as an extreme example could be come an Thrall mind for sentient Mecha/TECH. makes you think.

Are look at it this way, What if her superpower was being able to copy and improve any organic life or sentient organic life she sees.
Again makes you think.

I think the key thing is here CULTURE MINDS are not "TECH" they are vastly more sophisticated than that, their capabilities are truly for want of a better word god-esk. But in no way ARE they good, they are living beings, no matter how sophisticated they are barn, the live, they grow, they die.

I think meta game wise, for any one not at that level to try and copy and improve an CULTURE MIND Level AI they would have to gave high capabilities, if Aananda has that then fine, and also scary as hell.

What I think I am saying is tech dos not mean Mecha in all forms, case in point is some of the Construct races in Pathfinder, could some with
Aananda superpower abler to copy an "Inevitable"? make them better, if they are just viewed as tech?

Its something to think about,
I think as Tech was used then Aananda is fine and in game worrying, this could be why Storm left. If he had know what Aananda could do he would have gone in a moment and pulled all CULTURE level tech off the planet with him. For the reasons hes stated when asked to help defend the planet. "Smatter" being one, also cultural evolution must match technology evaluation. The value system of this hegemony is stile instinctual and personal. Now this is because the readership and players are human and we like a good human story etc. So meta game wise Storm had to go, to good, to smart, to nice for us blood thirsty and drama living humans.

With AIs they stroys tend to go 2 ways
EVIL ROBOT/AI/TECH -> Distopion future.
Good ROBOT/AI/TECH -> Techoption future.

Problem is any just utopia story is dull as hell to us blood thirsty and drama living humans.

So most SF writer go for "Distopion future"
yet if any thing the last 200 years has shown us its the Technological culture tend to be good ones, I like my car, modem house, my Iphone this laptop and the Internet we are talking on.

But we have been bent in our view of Technology just as Chines girls want to look like white models, because Media and story's push a view or idea, more than another,

But So

O please please lets have Johnny and Aananda about AIs,

Organic 1st, Distopion, AIs bad Camp
Vs
the non Distopion sentient is sentient, IAs good camp

You know you want to, its SOoo
full of WIN

Ok ill go away now I have vented

**walks away to get Kid ready for school**


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown

Spugs:
To clarify: Aananda doesn't think AIs are bad. Aananda thinks creating AIs would be bad.

It would take her a long time to build something on the level of Storm. She's a dragon. She's got time. She also thinks that people need room to change and grow and make their own choices and AIs tend to muddy things up because they also can make their own choices. Since as soon as you create them they change from 'machine' or 'tech' to sentient being. She's not wanting to go there.

There have been tech based characters in the game. She makes no move to copy them. She thinks it's wrong. It's as simple as that. Although warforged don't really count cause they're partially magic and she doesn't do magic.


Human being Game Master and all round good egg

Edit Lynora:

To clarify: Aananda doesn't think AIs are bad. Aananda thinks creating AIs would be bad.

Yep I think as the CULTURE books has AIs making AIs only, its a closed loop for them, and see below Organics long ago stopped having the skill and capacity to make Ture culture AIs, In fact in the books just one guy dos this as his lifes work.

"It would take her a long time to build something on the level of Storm. She's a dragon. She's got time. She also thinks that people need room to change and grow and make their own choices and AIs tend to muddy things up because they also can make their own choices. Since as soon as you create them they change from 'machine' or 'tech' to sentient being. She's not wanting to go there."

I think I'm a bit mixed with with In game and Meta game things there.
do you mean V PCs or as being, in game she dos not want the responsibility, just to know, Only Storm made sentient AIs in game, hes gone now, Johnny can't, they Two Drones left could if they had Drone sex, "The Rapture" but that would be a real big deal in game so not going to happen any time soon. + they must want to, just like others, fall in Drone love.

Making AIs like that is hard, you have to be supersmart, think as fast and paralleled as the AI your making, or let it remake itself in which case it will supass you real fast, (CULTURE MINDS did just that) until MIND level AIs make other mind level AIs, each time improving, in the culture books organics long ago got left behind in MIND design and creating. Also each and every mind makes its own, Mind, kind of like OS, in real time and at a scary speed, some so well the pop off out the universe and become gods in the realm of the sublimed, a problem with AIs that smart in the Banks books.
But that's another world, this is not that world, not this one :)

Well just wanted to say thanks letting me play in this one I have to go with local rules, eg what you say gos, Happy with that, nice to be allowed to play at all, So thanks for that.

"There have been tech based characters in the game. She makes no move to copy them. She thinks it's wrong. It's as simple as that. Although warforged don't really count cause they're partially magic and she doesn't do magic."

O did not know that, Magic yes, Johnny has a problem with that has well.

Melody song sweet


DB3: Tyrrin now has at least some control over her Seer powers, and so is able to use her Prophetic Visionary feat, except it can be used either as Augury... or, if she's asleep, it can be used as per Divination. She may be able to glean something about what they're going to face.

I'll let you decide, since it's your story.

Either way, you have Tyrrin's interest, and she'll help as she can. Getting away from her duties as Student Council Pres may prove difficult though.


Female [Classified] Bard 16 / [classified] 16

spugs thanks, just looking for something while waiting for next day.

I always put characters to bed way to early in this game.

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Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

sorry everybody, I was asleep, took a nap, was sooooo tired

I don't usually need much sleep, I take medicine that has side effects of making me really awake and really not hungry, today I forgot it
Sooooo hungry
Sooooo tired

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A wonderful idea, Fireclaw. I'll work on a PM to send with an explanation. Would you like me to work what Tyrrin sees, or come up with based on what I tell you?


Whatever you want to do DB3. I can write up a "dream sequence" or vision, but if you'd like to, I really have no preference. Again, your story. I'll work with what you can give me. I don't want to know TOO much, it'll ruin the surprise. :)


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
GM Spugly Fuglet wrote:
** spoiler omitted **...

Spugs:

It's partly that she doesn't want the responsibility and partly that she's afraid of where it leads. Because of her sense of morals she would have to make them able to grow and evolve on their own and she couldn't be sure doing that that she wasn't unleashing a terrible evil. They would start out near her level of intelligence which is genius level for a dragon and wouldn't have hard upper limits so pretty much you end up with who knows what. So she won't. She has the capability and will never, ever use it. The upside for someone like Johnny is that she can help if he ever needs something repaired. And I'm sure they could have some great philosphical discussions. But there is zero danger of her ever, ever creating anything like what they have in the Culture. She'll just copy the functionality of a couple interesting non-sentient doodads and that's about it. And I wasn't kidding about the time thing either. I figure it would take her near a century to build a proper AI the first time. Which is nothing to a dragon. But is a non-issue as previously stated.


Male Human Rogue 16/Magus 9
True Seeing:
He is wearing a blank white mask

Renkai has no words...


Human being Game Master and all round good egg

Ty please slow down, we went form Dave's in danger to Popping up in front of him saying "I can fix it your going to be all right"

Its killing the drama and build up, slow down, post the build up, this is a big event and popping to the end, just wastes chance for good drama.
You are leading this and Dave so make it Big, Chow down on the set.

lynora:

yep I think johnny if he had the time could make an AI that's truly sentient, but, he would just get board and walk off more like, 100 years around about right, it was about that in the books for a guy who did nothing but that.

And yes tech dos go bad, in the CULTURE books, "Smatter" being the big one, they even have a group with in the culture who do nothing with other higher races but stop our bakes of the stuff, Its a big problem

Gray Goo takes over the world etc, So Johnny knows not to make any thing THAT smart and uncontrolled.

:)

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A good point. Just a list of images then. :)


Male Human Gestalt: Binder 16, Wizard (Enchanter) 6

Yeah...can I ask bout tyb's teleport ability? Like all the info on it?


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.
Treisdan Achdarach wrote:
Yeah...can I ask bout tyb's teleport ability? Like all the info on it?

warlock's in pathfinder get wizard school abilities at will, he chose shift (conjuration/teleport specialist) he also has dimension door if I remember right


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16

Its shift for close range and as dimension door for far.


Human being Game Master and all round good egg
narrator wrote:
Okay, stepping in. I think Ana didn't come along, by her choice, Johnny. Tybs, it would take Dave a fair amount of time to gather all those scrolls. You guys would have the time to drive into Kuros and find him before he truly takes off. Jumping ahead in this situation just leaves Johnny out of the loop. Hang on.

more than that it kills the whole biuld up and trip, pop to stopping dave chat posts and done, kind of kills it and the sped jumping and post, you have to see that, I del a few posts as they where skilled before even read. Point is Aananda ask others to help as well like Jimmy etc, others are being left out here, letters have been sent, if its ended with TO and each, all the others will miss out, happy that it takes time but if its left as Ty gets to dave that fast in game, its going to kill it if otehrs read letters go looking for Dave and find him safe and well back and nothing to see here move along


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.

if I am remembering everybody, the only letter left to write for me is raelle, and ty
J you got one but you probably don't see it unless one of the drones find it and send you a digital copy or something
Ty, same deal for you
Dom: sent
Ardente: you have one but have already left for the sun so you'll get yours when you get back.
Raelle... how late are you going to be awake... I imagine this happening about 2am


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown

I was figuring Raelle wouldn't get hers since it would probably go to her room since Skeets wouldn't know she went to her parents place.

And I thought it was closer to eleven, maybe midnight.


Gift AC 12/FF10/T10 CMB 14 | F+4 R+2 W+2 | HP 16/16| Init+4 | PP23/23

Yes good point Dave Johnnys Drone room mate will do that.
Ill edit post


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16

I think it was via Skeets if I remember right. This might work too though.


Female Elf Gestalt Sorcerer (Starsoul) 16/Oracle (Heavens) 16

Lyn: Tyrrin did ask directly for Ginni's opinion on this business.


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.

gotcha, her room it is, this way we don't have to have do stealth rolls against Raelle's parents, I don't want to lose skeets, Dave would not leave without skeets, if skeets was found and destroyed in his current mental state.... not good


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
Tyrrin Denulia wrote:

Lyn: Tyrrin did ask directly for Ginni's opinion on this business.

Yep, but she asked more than one person at once and Ginni is deliberately fading into the conversational background. Same reasons as before.


Alright, just wanted to make sure you didn't miss that.

Tyrrin's not going to press the issue if Ginni doesn't want to, so /shrug.

We'll get miss smarty succubus out of her shell eventually. Maybe annoying her more with Anahita will work.


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16

I was expecting an "are you going to eat that?" From Roel

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Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
I was expecting an "are you going to eat that?" From Roel

me as well


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.

raelle's letter sent
I'm not happy with her's. dave has higher cha and int than me, he would have been able to write better.


Human being Game Master and all round good egg
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
I was expecting an "are you going to eat that?" From Roel

Things cats say 101

heehe

Work time for me, back soon.


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16

That's racist. ;P


male human gestalt fighter 15/duelist 9, rouge 5, monk 1
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
That's racist. ;P

spiciesist


male Aasimar Muse-touched Image gestalt waterbender 11/Disciple of the Healing Waters 5/ Bard (street performer/song healer) 16
FireclawDrake wrote:

Alright, just wanted to make sure you didn't miss that.

Tyrrin's not going to press the issue if Ginni doesn't want to, so /shrug.

We'll get miss smarty succubus out of her shell eventually. Maybe annoying her more with Anahita will work.

Nah just let her hang around Dom more often. She'll eventually realize that she's smarter than him and he doesn't keep acting dumb to get people to like him.


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16
Adon Derro wrote:
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
That's racist. ;P
spiciesist

*speciesist

And catfolk are a race. They arent nearly as cat like as this though. I think Tyb and his race might just be hybrids closer to actual cats than normal catfolk.


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.
Adon Derro wrote:
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
That's racist. ;P
spiciesist

semantics

a species is a race
also

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you meant
speciesist
Speciesism is the assigning of different values or rights to beings on the basis of their species membership. The term was created by British psychologist Richard D. Ryder in 1973 to denote a prejudice against non-humans based on physical differences that are given moral value


Both Doppelganger Except younger looking Factotum 16/Taskshaper 6/Chameleon 10(Gestalt)

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you know, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.

And Ace is the best :)


Male Merfolk (Strongtail) Gestalt: Sorcerer 8/Wizard 7/Frostmage 1

Hew/Zilla is proof of why children need to go to bed at a reasonable hour


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16
"Ace" wrote:

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.

And Ace is the best :)

in the world. We know.


Male Human-Reaper/obitu Death Mage 11/oracle 1/grim reaper 10
Sheldlonsorunsun Suressuseschi wrote:
Hew/Zilla is proof of why children need to go to bed at a reasonable hour

nice... +1

but what if you don't need to sleep?


Male Human Rogue 16/Magus 9
True Seeing:
He is wearing a blank white mask
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
"Ace" wrote:

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.

And Ace is the best :)

in the world. We know.

Like a broken record...


Both Doppelganger Except younger looking Factotum 16/Taskshaper 6/Chameleon 10(Gestalt)
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
"Ace" wrote:

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.

And Ace is the best :)

in the world. We know.

This coming from the self professed therapy cat...


Male sorcerer 16 wilder (leader/telepath) 3 elocater 2, thrallherd 1, pyrokineticist 10.
"Ace" wrote:
Tybalt Baneko wrote:
"Ace" wrote:

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.

And Ace is the best :)

in the world. We know.
This coming from the self professed therapy cat...

much as I want to argue... you do have a point


Male Icy Catfolk Image Warlock/Rogue 16

Mine is OK cause its funny and endearing. And Ty doesn't actually believe or call himself that. ;p


Lyn: quick reminder to drop off the bracelet/datapad. I kinda wanna see how awkward that scene gets, since Aananda's gonna have to open up the tent. xD


Both Doppelganger Except younger looking Factotum 16/Taskshaper 6/Chameleon 10(Gestalt)

Uh huh, if he didn't believe that, he wouldn't be rushing full tilt to "help at least one person tonight"...

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Thought of Avalon.


male Aasimar Muse-touched Image gestalt waterbender 11/Disciple of the Healing Waters 5/ Bard (street performer/song healer) 16
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Thought of Avalon.

Wait High School of the dead reminds you of Avalon?

So wish they would continue that one.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Gonna have to go to bed soon... Just as Avalon is about to wake up.


male human monk 16
Dom Waverider wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Thought of Avalon.

Wait High School of the dead reminds you of Avalon?

So wish they would continue that one.

I still think of avalon like this

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Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Thought of Avalon.

is that high school of the dead?

gotta say, I think that Avalon is more like Rosario Vampire than High school of the dead.


male Aasimar Muse-touched Image gestalt waterbender 11/Disciple of the Healing Waters 5/ Bard (street performer/song healer) 16

I can see rosario + vampire, Familiar of Zero school, or The Fairy Tail guild from Fairy Tail.

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