
GM Spugly Fuglet |

Fun fact about Aananda: her superpower is being able to copy and improve any tech she sees. She now has the tech and the know-how to build an AI. Has for a while. Hasn't. She actually really disagrees with some of the basic assumptions of Culture well, culture, and is choosing to take a different direction. This is part of why the nanites aren't given enough intelligence to be considered sentient.
Lets for the sake of a debate view point, you split the camps of sentient in to
Mecha and Orga, now "Aananda: her superpower is being able to copy and improve any tech she sees" If you place ALL sentient Mecha under the term
"Tech" it means she can control and manipulate all Tech and sentient Mecha/tech, in other words (as an extreme example could be come an Thrall mind for sentient Mecha/TECH. makes you think.
Are look at it this way, What if her superpower was being able to copy and improve any organic life or sentient organic life she sees.
Again makes you think.
I think the key thing is here CULTURE MINDS are not "TECH" they are vastly more sophisticated than that, their capabilities are truly for want of a better word god-esk. But in no way ARE they good, they are living beings, no matter how sophisticated they are barn, the live, they grow, they die.
I think meta game wise, for any one not at that level to try and copy and improve an CULTURE MIND Level AI they would have to gave high capabilities, if Aananda has that then fine, and also scary as hell.
What I think I am saying is tech dos not mean Mecha in all forms, case in point is some of the Construct races in Pathfinder, could some with
Aananda superpower abler to copy an "Inevitable"? make them better, if they are just viewed as tech?
Its something to think about,
I think as Tech was used then Aananda is fine and in game worrying, this could be why Storm left. If he had know what Aananda could do he would have gone in a moment and pulled all CULTURE level tech off the planet with him. For the reasons hes stated when asked to help defend the planet. "Smatter" being one, also cultural evolution must match technology evaluation. The value system of this hegemony is stile instinctual and personal. Now this is because the readership and players are human and we like a good human story etc. So meta game wise Storm had to go, to good, to smart, to nice for us blood thirsty and drama living humans.
With AIs they stroys tend to go 2 ways
EVIL ROBOT/AI/TECH -> Distopion future.
Good ROBOT/AI/TECH -> Techoption future.
Problem is any just utopia story is dull as hell to us blood thirsty and drama living humans.
So most SF writer go for "Distopion future"
yet if any thing the last 200 years has shown us its the Technological culture tend to be good ones, I like my car, modem house, my Iphone this laptop and the Internet we are talking on.
But we have been bent in our view of Technology just as Chines girls want to look like white models, because Media and story's push a view or idea, more than another,
But So
O please please lets have Johnny and Aananda about AIs,
Organic 1st, Distopion, AIs bad Camp
Vs
the non Distopion sentient is sentient, IAs good camp
You know you want to, its SOoo
full of WIN
Ok ill go away now I have vented
**walks away to get Kid ready for school**

lynora |

It would take her a long time to build something on the level of Storm. She's a dragon. She's got time. She also thinks that people need room to change and grow and make their own choices and AIs tend to muddy things up because they also can make their own choices. Since as soon as you create them they change from 'machine' or 'tech' to sentient being. She's not wanting to go there.
There have been tech based characters in the game. She makes no move to copy them. She thinks it's wrong. It's as simple as that. Although warforged don't really count cause they're partially magic and she doesn't do magic.

GM Spugly Fuglet |

To clarify: Aananda doesn't think AIs are bad. Aananda thinks creating AIs would be bad.
Yep I think as the CULTURE books has AIs making AIs only, its a closed loop for them, and see below Organics long ago stopped having the skill and capacity to make Ture culture AIs, In fact in the books just one guy dos this as his lifes work.
"It would take her a long time to build something on the level of Storm. She's a dragon. She's got time. She also thinks that people need room to change and grow and make their own choices and AIs tend to muddy things up because they also can make their own choices. Since as soon as you create them they change from 'machine' or 'tech' to sentient being. She's not wanting to go there."
I think I'm a bit mixed with with In game and Meta game things there.
do you mean V PCs or as being, in game she dos not want the responsibility, just to know, Only Storm made sentient AIs in game, hes gone now, Johnny can't, they Two Drones left could if they had Drone sex, "The Rapture" but that would be a real big deal in game so not going to happen any time soon. + they must want to, just like others, fall in Drone love.
Making AIs like that is hard, you have to be supersmart, think as fast and paralleled as the AI your making, or let it remake itself in which case it will supass you real fast, (CULTURE MINDS did just that) until MIND level AIs make other mind level AIs, each time improving, in the culture books organics long ago got left behind in MIND design and creating. Also each and every mind makes its own, Mind, kind of like OS, in real time and at a scary speed, some so well the pop off out the universe and become gods in the realm of the sublimed, a problem with AIs that smart in the Banks books.
But that's another world, this is not that world, not this one :)
Well just wanted to say thanks letting me play in this one I have to go with local rules, eg what you say gos, Happy with that, nice to be allowed to play at all, So thanks for that.
"There have been tech based characters in the game. She makes no move to copy them. She thinks it's wrong. It's as simple as that. Although warforged don't really count cause they're partially magic and she doesn't do magic."
O did not know that, Magic yes, Johnny has a problem with that has well.
Melody song sweet

FireclawDrake |

DB3: Tyrrin now has at least some control over her Seer powers, and so is able to use her Prophetic Visionary feat, except it can be used either as Augury... or, if she's asleep, it can be used as per Divination. She may be able to glean something about what they're going to face.
I'll let you decide, since it's your story.
Either way, you have Tyrrin's interest, and she'll help as she can. Getting away from her duties as Student Council Pres may prove difficult though.

lynora |

** spoiler omitted **...

GM Spugly Fuglet |

Ty please slow down, we went form Dave's in danger to Popping up in front of him saying "I can fix it your going to be all right"
Its killing the drama and build up, slow down, post the build up, this is a big event and popping to the end, just wastes chance for good drama.
You are leading this and Dave so make it Big, Chow down on the set.
yep I think johnny if he had the time could make an AI that's truly sentient, but, he would just get board and walk off more like, 100 years around about right, it was about that in the books for a guy who did nothing but that.
And yes tech dos go bad, in the CULTURE books, "Smatter" being the big one, they even have a group with in the culture who do nothing with other higher races but stop our bakes of the stuff, Its a big problem
Gray Goo takes over the world etc, So Johnny knows not to make any thing THAT smart and uncontrolled.
:)

David.De'Foul |

Yeah...can I ask bout tyb's teleport ability? Like all the info on it?
warlock's in pathfinder get wizard school abilities at will, he chose shift (conjuration/teleport specialist) he also has dimension door if I remember right

GM Spugly Fuglet |

Okay, stepping in. I think Ana didn't come along, by her choice, Johnny. Tybs, it would take Dave a fair amount of time to gather all those scrolls. You guys would have the time to drive into Kuros and find him before he truly takes off. Jumping ahead in this situation just leaves Johnny out of the loop. Hang on.
more than that it kills the whole biuld up and trip, pop to stopping dave chat posts and done, kind of kills it and the sped jumping and post, you have to see that, I del a few posts as they where skilled before even read. Point is Aananda ask others to help as well like Jimmy etc, others are being left out here, letters have been sent, if its ended with TO and each, all the others will miss out, happy that it takes time but if its left as Ty gets to dave that fast in game, its going to kill it if otehrs read letters go looking for Dave and find him safe and well back and nothing to see here move along

David.De'Foul |

if I am remembering everybody, the only letter left to write for me is raelle, and ty
J you got one but you probably don't see it unless one of the drones find it and send you a digital copy or something
Ty, same deal for you
Dom: sent
Ardente: you have one but have already left for the sun so you'll get yours when you get back.
Raelle... how late are you going to be awake... I imagine this happening about 2am

Johnny Panic |

Yes good point Dave Johnnys Drone room mate will do that.
Ill edit post

Tybalt Baneko |

I think it was via Skeets if I remember right. This might work too though.

David.De'Foul |

gotcha, her room it is, this way we don't have to have do stealth rolls against Raelle's parents, I don't want to lose skeets, Dave would not leave without skeets, if skeets was found and destroyed in his current mental state.... not good

Dom Waverider |

Alright, just wanted to make sure you didn't miss that.
Tyrrin's not going to press the issue if Ginni doesn't want to, so /shrug.
We'll get miss smarty succubus out of her shell eventually. Maybe annoying her more with Anahita will work.
Nah just let her hang around Dom more often. She'll eventually realize that she's smarter than him and he doesn't keep acting dumb to get people to like him.

Tybalt Baneko |

Tybalt Baneko wrote:That's racist. ;Pspiciesist
*speciesist
And catfolk are a race. They arent nearly as cat like as this though. I think Tyb and his race might just be hybrids closer to actual cats than normal catfolk.
David.De'Foul |

Tybalt Baneko wrote:That's racist. ;Pspiciesist
semantics
a species is a racealso
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"Ace" |

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you know, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.
And Ace is the best :)

Tybalt Baneko |

Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.
And Ace is the best :)
in the world. We know.

"Ace" |

"Ace" wrote:in the world. We know.Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.
And Ace is the best :)
This coming from the self professed therapy cat...

David.De'Foul |

Tybalt Baneko wrote:This coming from the self professed therapy cat..."Ace" wrote:in the world. We know.Or you know, her boyfriend can help with that. Cuz you, boyfriends do that kinda sh!t. At least the good ones.
And Ace is the best :)
much as I want to argue... you do have a point

Tybalt Baneko |

Mine is OK cause its funny and endearing. And Ty doesn't actually believe or call himself that. ;p

"Ace" |

Uh huh, if he didn't believe that, he wouldn't be rushing full tilt to "help at least one person tonight"...

Dom Waverider |

Thought of Avalon.
Wait High School of the dead reminds you of Avalon?
So wish they would continue that one.

Lang Fei |

Dragonborn3 wrote:Thought of Avalon.Wait High School of the dead reminds you of Avalon?
So wish they would continue that one.

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Thought of Avalon.
is that high school of the dead?
gotta say, I think that Avalon is more like Rosario Vampire than High school of the dead.
Dom Waverider |

I can see rosario + vampire, Familiar of Zero school, or The Fairy Tail guild from Fairy Tail.