did we just inherit two avatars?
also I believe we are using different mechanics concerning bending yours involves seeds (based on what I read) mine are like martial arts katas.
two differnt write ups with the same premise behind it.
There is something else at work Lang, that's all I'll say. Ardiente is not the Avatar.
actually I am more interested in the game mechanics of the bending you use compared to mine -- like which refernce sources, becuase I am working to put this stuff together for my own game but I wanted a common set of rules that can mimic the show without breaking the game.
I pulled my stuff from this site.
The power level is a little low for Pathfinder I think, but I'm not too worried about it. The classes are good, the only things I don't really like is the restriction on the number of seeds you can have. If I were playing with these bender classes, I'd just do away with them. As long as people don't multiclass anyway.
https://sites.google.com/site/avatard20/home
This is the setting book that we are using. At least from what i can tell he is using this one as well. This should have everything you need to run a game in the avatar setting.
thanks I have been using the one on the pathfinder SRD site. which is a little different. I think there is a step up in power using the pathfinder one.
wonder if there could be a way to blend the two....hmmmm..
I like the versatility of the classes. Few classes can feel like you have mastery over an element as this one does. When put against pathfinder the power lvl really doesn't lack but rather the avatar has no defense against magic. Since the show has no magic involved in it the system didn't need one. But when you play it in a mash up as this one you can see where that hurts them a little.
Ardiente reminds me of a fanfic I read once, embers I think it was called, in the fanfic there were people who could bend 2 elements, they were called yaorin (Chinese for sorcerer) it was/is written by an anthropologist and it shows.
Hey Lyn just a quick question you might find funny. If I was to cover something or someone in small scratchws in an actual fight and throw lemon juice all over them how would you treat that? It wouldn't do much to hurt but it would sting. Maybe a little nonlethal. My DM friend said he would treat it as sickened for the next round just as a starting place. This isn't real important and doesn't need prompt response. Just curious.
Your DM sounds about right. Fort save (DC~13) vs. sickened for 1d4 rounds is what I would do.
I like the versatility of the classes. Few classes can feel like you have mastery over an element as this one does. When put against pathfinder the power lvl really doesn't lack but rather the avatar has no defense against magic. Since the show has no magic involved in it the system didn't need one. But when you play it in a mash up as this one you can see where that hurts them a little.
which is why Lang has some other things besides bending abilities... becuase of the magic.
however if I were to run an avatar game magic would have to be nearly at the point of non-existant.
of course another question is, how would it play out on these boards. and is it leagal to do so (copyright stuff an all)
Cool DM is Adon by the way in case that hasn't become apparent yet.
Ardiente reminds me of a fanfic I read once, embers I think it was called, in the fanfic there were people who could bend 2 elements, they were called yaorin (Chinese for sorcerer) it was/is written by an anthropologist and it shows.
The idea (for me anyway) originated from looking at the elementals in Bestiary 2 (Magma, Mud, Ice, Lightning) and thinking that combining two benders could make something similar (Lavabender for earth/fire, Mudbender for earth/water, etc). Lavabender was my favourite of any of those though... and I wanted to play a firebird, so it just kinda fell into place.
Strong enough firebender a can already bend lava, and its probably possible for an earthbsnder to do the same as shown when katara and Toph (my iPod autocorrects Toph to ropy for some reason unless I capitalize it) bent mud and sludge, they bent the parts of their element present in the others element, the Chinese believed that everything was made of a mix of these four, the trouble is finding those tiny pieces.
In the fanfic zuko bent the fire in hot water (this line is where non cannon starts)
I know, but still. It probably takes alot less energy to bend lava for an earthbender than for a firebender.
Honestly I just like the name: lavabender. Just sounds cool, ya know? ;)
Dragons are a little different, since they hatch fully conscious of themselves, but yeah. It's a good thing the Sunwakes are all bonded to long-lived species.
Edit: Except for Vai, now that I think about it. I have no idea what the energy in Fei is going to do for his lifespan... but... the saddest thing about relationships: A successful one ends in one person watching the other die.
...
I made myself sad.
You forget one thing, Grasshopper...only an individual from a long-lived race (or an especially long-lived strain of a particular race) can become a Champion.
That should unmake your sadness a bit...at least about death by old age, anyway ;)
Ah yes... I remember now. So either Fei isn't human, or there is something else in the works ;)
Well there goes my hopes of being the champion of madness.
Actually, Patrons just prefer the longer lived races. At least, that was my understanding. Ryo's kids couldn't be the Champion of Dreams otherwise.
"Anything shorter lived than an elf is just over too quickly to be bothered with." I believe that's what Lyn told me when we were discussing Vai's championship.
From what I looked up on the avatar wiki the only known person to bend lava was an avatar because of the blending of the two styles. How ever it is a wiki that I looked up that information so I take it with a grain of salt.
As for the legal issues the Avatar d20 is a OGL release by RPGnow as a free rule set to be used with the D&D 3.5 book. Not all the classes list in playable classes have there classes listed since they are with in D&D books. Only the classes that have been made by them are in there. It was released as a free download on there site as well. A friend of mine has the PDF of the game downloaded before the download disappeared. I actually prefur that version deflect attack better than the one list of the link that was given but since I can't find a link to it online I just used the one I can prove the rules of.
The other version was a negative to ranged attack rolls made against a bender character instead of an opposed attack roll. Though the opposed attack roll makes since.
As for want i would do if I was to do as a GM putting a character class for avatar d20 into a magic based setting is allow the bending feat that allows to defend agianst area based attacks to work as a bards Countersong and possibly give the evasion class ability to all effected by the feat at the time. The evasion is something I'm not sure of but it was a thought I had.
Negative - Lynora and I had to have a chat about Fei to get him 'officially' vetted as Champion material.
Short-lived races are not a good enough investment to the Aspects - too much turnaround to be worth the effort, basically :)
[EDIT]: And Ninja'd by Fireclaw. Now off to cook some dinner... ;)
In attempts to distract myself, I've found myself writing up a custom table for sample Primal Magic Events. Just to see all the wacky and entertaining effects everyone can come up with, I thought I'd ask if people would want to suggest anything, if it's alright with Lyn.
You'd think if they cared enough they would just make them not short lived.
One random targets outer layer of clothing clothing is removed washed, ironed folded and placed beside them.
if there was a champion of war, lifespan wouldn't be much of an issue. almost no chance he could die of old age.
You'd think if they cared enough they would just make them not short lived.
that would be cheating.
You'd think if they cared enough they would just make them not short lived.
This might step on the toes of either Life or Death though. Death particularly doesn't like having his domain messed with.
Politics. Feh.
In attempts to distract myself, I've found myself writing up a custom table for sample Primal Magic Events. Just to see all the wacky and entertaining effects everyone can come up with, I thought I'd ask if people would want to suggest anything, if it's alright with Lyn.
The spontaneous growth of mountain under the subject complete with plants and fauna as well as natural cave systems as if it had been there for always.
lyorna, did adon learn anything about the coin?
THE SUSPENSE! IS IT KILLING ANYONE?!
CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S STILL KILLING ME!!
I would imagine some Patrons wouldn't care about the Champion's lifespan, but I might be the tiniest bit bias because Dream choose 3 humans to be it's Champion.
i could imaging that war needs a new one every few years...
THE SUSPENSE! IS IT KILLING ANYONE?!
CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S STILL KILLING ME!!
nope.
I would imagine some Patrons wouldn't care about the Champion's lifespan, but I might be the tiniest bit bias because Dream choose 3 humans to be it's Champion.
Who is their mother anyway? I don't believe it's ever been mentioned. At least, that I've read. I easily could missed it. I haven't gone through ALL the backlogs (nor the old game).
Or is it SHUPER SHECRET?
nope.THE SUSPENSE! IS IT KILLING ANYONE?!
CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S STILL KILLING ME!!
Meh, not really.
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You guys suck. *pout*
It is me guess you can figure out why...
You guys suck. *pout*
Meh not really
It would be more suspenseful if you hadn'tbrought it up here although I'm fairly interested in it for rp reasons
It would be more suspenseful if you hadn'tbrought it up here although I'm fairly interested in it for rp reasons
Ooooohhh yeaaahhhh Master of killing the dramatic tension.
Poor Lyn is being bombarded today XD
I actually am quite interested.
To be fair though, I really love the stuff I've read between you older players, the Sunwake meeting, Vai and Fei, etc...so I might be a bit biased here, LOL.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm interested, but it's not suspenseful, cause of what tybalt said
Well, to be fair... those characters have been around for a LONG time. Getting to almost 400 pages since Vai was introduced, for example, and she was the last of the Sunwakes to be introduced (and didn't get adopted until like page 250). There's alot of history with them, and I think we're all used to writing for them. I'm still getting the hang of writing for Ardiente.
Yes, I'm fine with folks suggesting Primal Magic Events.
The Antairus kids' mom was a Hunter. There was a whole huge argument between Ryo and Aananda because she was pissed about him hiding the fact that he got married and had kids from her. Based on how Hunters were created, it is conceivable that they have longer than average life spans.
There isn't a Champion of War per se, that's covered under Wrath. And Wrath tends to choose...we'll just say sturdy Champions. :)
Yes, that effect sounds correct for the pouring lemon juice in a cut attack.
Err....sorry if I missed anything.
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I would imagine some Patrons wouldn't care about the Champion's lifespan, but I might be the tiniest bit bias because Dream choose 3 humans to be it's Champion.Who is their mother anyway? I don't believe it's ever been mentioned. At least, that I've read. I easily could missed it. I haven't gone through ALL the backlogs (nor the old game).
Or is it SHUPER SHECRET?
It was, briefly, when Ryo was telling Aananda after he let it slip that he had children. She died a few years ago.
Yes, I'm fine with folks suggesting Primal Magic Events.
The Antairus kids' mom was a Hunter. There was a whole huge argument between Ryo and Aananda because she was pissed about him hiding the fact that he got married and had kids from her. Based on how Hunters were created, it is conceivable that they have longer than average life spans.
There isn't a Champion of War per se, that's covered under Wrath. And Wrath tends to choose...we'll just say sturdy Champions. :)
Yes, that effect sounds correct for the pouring lemon juice in a cut attack.
Err....sorry if I missed anything.
does adon get any information on the coin in basic arcana?
my real big worry is that Ardiente starts meddling between Lang and Ignace
It's not a coin. It's a spoon with a partly real illusion on it. You have to disbelieve the illusion to get it to change into a spoon.
By touching it adon might break the illusion.