Suicide Squad

Game Master Patrick Curtin

Chandi wrote:

Eddin Costayne wrote:

Mythaniel Barronion wrote:

Oh we are all gonna just positively love one another! :-)

F is for friends who do stuff together...

That bass hurts my hippocampus.

Eeeexcellent...

Wow. I SING bass and that is,... Bassy. :/

Indrana wrote:

@ Ragadolf

It depends on the insult I imagine. Of course it could just be that she takes him up on his interest and f@&&s him to death. He'd die but he'd die very happy.

If your gonna go, go with a smile! ;)

This game will be rated R for violence, not sex. >.<

Yeah, this isn't RPOL where that could actually be done. So Patrick, what is the verdict on both background skills and the requirement (or lack there of) of the Fiendish Heritage feat for the variant tiefling types?

Excellent questions,

Are we presuming the Standard 2 traits at creation?
(You may have already answered that one and I don't recall because,... well, being me basically) ;P

Ragadolf wrote:

Indrana wrote:

@ Ragadolf

It depends on the insult I imagine. Of course it could just be that she takes him up on his interest and f@&&s him to death. He'd die but he'd die very happy.

If your gonna go, go with a smile! ;)

This game will be rated R for violence, not sex. >.<

Yeaaaaaah,... Sorry.

I'll just go get that out of my system now. ;P

Folks, I'm just dealing with a spot of depression right now. I apologize for my absence, but it's been a hard week, and I am hoping that things will improve soon. I should have some time to update either early Wednesday or Thursday morning.

Yeah, this isn't RPOL where that could actually be done. So Patrick, what is the verdict on both background skills and the requirement (or lack there of) of the Fiendish Heritage feat for the variant tiefling types?

Background skills are fine. Go ahead and take the fiendish heritage feat if you eish

Sorry to hear that man.

The question was whether we have to take the feat for variant heritages, not if we could. It's one of those questionable feat taxes that isn't seemingly required anymore due to more recently published materials but has never been explicitly said to not exist just been left out since the conversion from 3.5 to pathfinder.

While not the GM, I will say that based on the lack of mention of the Fiendish Heritage feat in anything but the Bastards of Erebus (an Adventure Path book), the lack of mention in the Blood of Fiends (the Tiefling splat book), and the "missing" identical requirement for aasimars and dhampirs (typically considered equal half-races for these discussions); I believe that typically, unless a GM wants the feat to be there, the assumption is it is not required.

Personally, I think it was only included in the Council of Thieves since that AP was the first official PFRPG AP and was still transitioning from the 3.5/OGL format/rules. The feat may even have been just an "accidental inclusion" after the AP was converted prior to release since we all know the APs are written well ahead of time to allow testing and editing. I have no doubt that Council of Thieves began its life as 3.5/OGL while the PF beta testing finished up and then was converted.

Of course, Patrick may be a stickler for RAW or die! (I have seen no evidence to support this) and make you take it. But there's my support for "This is not the feat you are looking for."

/handwave

^That sounds well reasoned. I concur

And there we go, issue clarified.

Congrats my tiefling brother, you now have one free feat to spend. You're welcome.

And there we go, issue clarified.

Congrats my tiefling brother, you now have one free feat to spend. You're welcome.

~Stares without expression~

And there we go, issue clarified.

Congrats my tiefling brother, you now have one free feat to spend. You're welcome.

Cool, thanks. Another feat!

@Patrick: Do the Restraining Collars count as the Neck magic item slot? There's a magic item I really want to use, a Pallid Crystal, that's typically worn on a necklace unless you'd be willing to let Atma wear a necklace as a head chain with the Pallid Crystal resting on her forehead.

Also, what would be an appropriate deity to trigger the second ability? Or alternatively, that requirement can just be ignored if you wish.

By the way, I've made some changes to Mareth's build; as well as adding background skills, changing up the fiendish heritage feat and adding in favoured class bonus (which I had forgotten), I've tweaked some other things, mainly around his choice of weapon (from heavy flail to earth breaker).

Oh yeah! Background skills! Oops.

I'll need to make my own adjustments...

Having a blast with thus crew so far! :-)

@Patrick: Do the Restraining Collars count as the Neck magic item slot? There's a magic item I really want to use, a Pallid Crystal, that's typically worn on a necklace unless you'd be willing to let Atma wear a necklace as a head chain with the Pallid Crystal resting on her forehead.

Also, what would be an appropriate deity to trigger the second ability? Or alternatively, that requirement can just be ignored if you wish.

Since the collar is mandatory I will not call it a slot filler. So you can wear another neck piece

Any deity is fine. This world is just filler, I'm making it up as I go, so any deity I can shoehorn into the pantheon

I'm making it up as I go

I'm assuming that this also applies to the oblique references Eddin's been dropping about a war between Argoan and Dargestan at some point in the recent past?

I can work that in

I can work that in

If you can't, don't worry about it. We can always chalk it up to him being a pathological liar.

LOL

Yeah, I need to finish the background stuff for Ash too. Traits mainly. I think I have everything else ready to go. :)

And yeah, this group is gonna be a hoot! :)

Patrick Curtin wrote:

I can work that in

If you can't, don't worry about it. We can always chalk it up to him being a pathological liar.

Nah it's cool. A conflict with Dargestan actually works nice. Gives a bit more depth to things. Ideological differences, and all that.

I have a border war in Mareth’s background; perhaps it’s the same war against Dargestan that Eddin fought in? It could give the two of them something to talk abo - oh, never mind.

There you go, you're practically brothers

LOL,

Brothers who fought on opposite sides in the Civil Argoan and Dargestan War? O_o

Dear gods! I am away from the boards for one weekend and the thread blows up! It took a good half hour to read everything. Loving these characters!

Once the white haired monster exits Myth strips down...

This cracked me up. XP

Oh yeah, this is great stuff! I don't know HOW I'm gonna keep up with all of you guys! :)

Mythaniel Barronion wrote:

Once the white haired monster exits Myth strips down...

This cracked me up. XP

Well, she IS a monster. :-)

Is there any magic item type or modifier that allows clothes to change shape?

I have been scouring everything I can find, but so far haven't seen anything like it. That definitely surprises me.

Is there any magic item type or modifier that allows clothes to change shape?

I have been scouring everything I can find, but so far haven't seen anything like it. That definitely surprises me.

3.5 had glamoured armor, maybe a similar ability to that exists in Pathfinder and can be applied to clothes?

Mareth, already dressed in his all-concealing suit of armour, makes no attempt to bathe or clean himself. He stands facing his new companions, idly swinging and hefting his two handed warhammer not a euphemism, as they each in turn bathe and dress. The sound of his breathing can be heard echoing within the confines of his helmet, which otherwise conceals his features and gaze.

… creep …

[heavy breathing]

If you are willing to give up your wrist slot there are Sleeves of Many Garments.

Glamor is also a thing.

3.5 had glamoured armor, maybe a similar ability to that exists in Pathfinder and can be applied to clothes?

Pathfinder has that, too. It's actually what made Atma's armor vanish, but I was looking more for an ability to have the Body Slot use magic clothes which could be altered at will. I guess they figured people would just use the disguise spell, but having magic clothes seems way more efficient to me!

EDIT: Sleeves! I would never have thought to look in that Slot list! That appears to more or less be what I'm after...

Mareth isn’t actually planning on attacking anyone here (although that won’t be obvious based on his actions) – nor does he particularly want the horse (I’m sure he’d get an unpleasant surprise if he tried to mount a ranger’s animal companion). He’s trying to provoke Chandi into using the amulet (taking a calculated gamble that she won’t use it to behead him over a minor altercation) so that he can determine, prior to them being in a crisis situation, how much provocation she needs to use the amulet, what the ‘punishment’ effects are, and whether he can determine how she activates it (which is why he’s tried to enlist the help of the magic user to watch for him).

I was going to say Sleeves of Many Garments, But Drog beat me to it! :)

Geygar 'Ash' is actually wearing a Hat of Disguise. All the better to sneak in where he doesn't belong! ;P

Mareth isn’t actually planning on attacking anyone here (although that won’t be obvious based on his actions) – nor does he particularly want the horse (I’m sure he’d get an unpleasant surprise if he tried to mount a ranger’s animal companion). He’s trying to provoke Chandi into using the amulet (taking a calculated gamble that she won’t use it to behead him over a minor altercation) so that he can determine, prior to them being in a crisis situation, how much provocation she needs to use the amulet, what the ‘punishment’ effects are, and whether he can determine how she activates it (which is why he’s tried to enlist the help of the magic user to watch for him).

Ooooo, yeah, I knew that! ;P

That was totally what I was thinking! :)

Is Chandi intended to be a real PC, or is she essentially an NPC and therefore eligible for Diplomacy/Intimidate checks?

So quite frankly, my high level equipment purchasing knowledge is...well, non-existent. Here's a list of the stuff I bought, most just because it tickles my fancy. The tattoos seemed like fun especially since now no one can cast a spell within 60 ft of Atma without her knowledge plus giving her the +1 to every spell DC. I'm totally open to suggestions or critique if I'm totally wasting money as I have rarely ever played at this level where we didn't just have whatever we found in the wild.

*One note, given that Atma is reverse on the pos/neg energy healing, the Pallid Crystal is kind of a must in order for her not to be a strain on the party and healing.

Combat Gear pallid crystal, runeward tattoo (abjuration), runeward tattoo (conjuration), runeward tattoo (divination), runeward tattoo (enchantment), runeward tattoo (evocation), runeward tattoo (illusion), runeward tattoo (necromancy), runeward tattoo (transmutation), vampiric gloves[UE]; Other Gear +1 elf-defiant glamered mithral chain shirt, ring of sustenance, secure paypack, sleeves of many garments[UE], bedroll, belt pouch, blanket[APG], chest, small (treasure), chewing stick, comb (0.2 lb), copy of a key[UE] (2), grooming kit, hairbrush (0.3 lb), mirror, nail file (0.1 lb), scissors (0.3 lb), skeleton key[UE], soap, sponge, tooth powder (0.1 lb), 2,110 gp, 8 sp

Is Chandi intended to be a real PC, or is she essentially an NPC and therefore eligible for Diplomacy/Intimidate checks?

Not to speak for Pat, but I would assume that Chandi is a real PC and therefore immune to attempts to change attitude and request aid via Diplomacy and Intimidate. That doesn’t make her immune to demoralise attempts though!

In this case I didn’t specify exactly what Mareth is attempting rules-wise; I guess treat it as a demoralise attempt, but I’m really trying to provoke a reaction. Being a PC, you can choose how Chandi reacts (which may not be the way Mareth expects).

Don’t behead me though please ;-)

So quite frankly, my high level equipment purchasing knowledge is...well, non-existent. Here's a list of the stuff I bought, most just because it tickles my fancy. The tattoos seemed like fun especially since now no one can cast a spell within 60 ft of Atma without her knowledge plus giving her the +1 to every spell DC. I'm totally open to suggestions or critique if I'm totally wasting money as I have rarely ever played at this level where we didn't just have whatever we found in the wild.

*One note, given that Atma is reverse on the pos/neg energy healing, the Pallid Crystal is kind of a must in order for her not to be a strain on the party and healing.

Combat Gear pallid crystal, runeward tattoo (abjuration), runeward tattoo (conjuration), runeward tattoo (divination), runeward tattoo (enchantment), runeward tattoo (evocation), runeward tattoo (illusion), runeward tattoo (necromancy), runeward tattoo (transmutation), vampiric gloves[UE]; Other Gear +1 elf-defiant glamered mithral chain shirt, ring of sustenance, secure paypack, sleeves of many garments[UE], bedroll, belt pouch, blanket[APG], chest, small (treasure), chewing stick, comb (0.2 lb), copy of a key[UE] (2), grooming kit, hairbrush (0.3 lb), mirror, nail file (0.1 lb), scissors (0.3 lb), skeleton key[UE], soap, sponge, tooth powder (0.1 lb), 2,110 gp, 8 sp

I’m not much used to mid-high level play or equipment purchasing either. I … have no idea what most of the magical items you list are / do …

Chandi wrote:

Is Chandi intended to be a real PC, or is she essentially an NPC and therefore eligible for Diplomacy/Intimidate checks?

Not to speak for Pat, but I would assume that Chandi is a real PC and therefore immune to attempts to change attitude and request aid via Diplomacy and Intimidate. That doesn’t make her immune to demoralise attempts though!

In this case I didn’t specify exactly what Mareth is attempting rules-wise; I guess treat it as a demoralise attempt, but I’m really trying to provoke a reaction. Being a PC, you can choose how Chandi reacts (which may not be the way Mareth expects).

Don’t behead me though please ;-)

Yeah I am assuming Chandi is a PC with full rights and privileges. That is a hell of a demoralizing intimidation though. Fingàl is not a push-over.

The good news for Chandi is that Fingal took the demoralise hit - I can only get one target per round (at this stage).

High level gear is tricky. There are a LOT of good items out there, but I never get to buy them as I rarely get to play at this level either. :)

And I'm so Old school I'm still of the "we found it so we use it" magic Item mentality. ;P

So, I cheated. :) I based my character stats/items almost completely on a PC posted online. (THANK YOU Ravingdork!) :) The 'magical' combo of items he put together were astounding. Multiple items all giving stackable bonuses to detecting or disarming traps? I have NO idea how much time he spent digging through all of the available items to find those combos.

It's funny Mareth decided to be the "tester." I had almost written a post where Atma just made a move to attack Chandi right out of the gate, but then I decided she has a reason not to at this junction. A chaotic, whimsical reason, but a reason nonetheless.

It's so tempting to keep posting, but I want to give everyone else a chance to take part in this scene!

This is great, I'M tempted to just stand back and keep watching!

(And I have to keep reminding myself, I'm a BAD GUY here!) ;P

Now THAT'S how you force Chandi to demonstrate the collars :)