Six Heads of Mayhem--The Hydra Campaign (Inactive)

Game Master Almonihah

Btw ya I guess I can let you guys know, I am female in RL =)

Oh and the guy who murdered innocent hydraheads like us is a total b@stard ;)

Hey I'm not! *High-five*

I expect most people on paizo boards to be guys to be honest. Down where I am I am one of the few girls in gaming group. And maybe the only female GM that still occasionally GMs. I've always suspected those urges to PvP came from some kind of male hormones and the need to prove macho-ness :p

If it helps at all, the group I started Pathfinder with face-to-face had two ladyfolk. One of them was our PvP. At least if the GM didn't say anything.

I don't start fights but I usually know how to end em =)

But yeah, many times I've wished that there were more female gamers around. I always thought maybe pathfinder was too much on rules that deter more rule-lite and less mathematically inclined people from playing.

I'll also tell you maths is the bad word that eats the thoughts out of your head, but once I get myself onto calculations, I aim to be as precise as possible.

And isn't that the important part?

As for math, I dunno. It makes Pathfinder feel to me like a more "real" game, if that makes sense. Like, if I can point to all this work I'm doing to make an idea work, I can say to myself that it's more than just imagination time for the over-sized kiddo.

Yes. There are laws and they are meant to be followed. Bah, now I sound like Tom.

No one wants to sound like Tom. Tom doesn't even want to sound like Tom.

Magic breaks any semblance of reality, but again that in itself is an extremely long philosophical discussion that I don't really want to go into. I presume some forumites have tried and their discussions have lasted months without fruit.

Ah, finally, some head regrowth! Have fun with RPing this part. ;)

Hey Im trying! Give me a break... Oh, thanks Zip. It broke :S

Again, spending resources on something like this is pretty silly.

Hey! I spent resourses on this! I wept blood, tears and roid rage rounds on keeping you guys from killing eachother! Then you killed me instead! Twice! (I died laughing :,D)

Also, the 5 ft step is a thing =) Once we find out who murdered us, let's jump him, ok? =D

Wellll nowww. excelent...... >:DDDDDD

Nother long transit ride :/
And poor Rorl. Can you imagine his report back at camp? At least if he soils himself I will be able to hunt (ahh, find) him down easier >:)

Hia! Cam James is guy. And a Blockhead.
Ive met and played with girl gamers on this forum and honestly, if they dont say so, there are usually very little tells, especially when compared to the eccentricity of the rest of us here :S
I mean.... This?¿?

Generally when I create a character, it is done to a mathematical "T" even (often) going so far as to total up the weight of the individual burlap sacs he might be carrying.
Then in game I do my utmost to fly by the seat of my pants :)

You, Blockhead, had it coming. My quote about jumping our murderers applied to Hungry =)

I hate calculating encumbrance. It usually involves me sitting on excel sheets and making irritated noises. Mainly because I'm a pack rat, and there's always too many things to carry and too low str score (I play primarily casters).

Also, for the 5 ft step business - lunge doesnt do any good because its only till your end of turn. You'll want something like step-up to follow a castys 5 ft step.

Grappling is the best, yes. But lets say you're not a tetori and facing an enemy caster. You don't want to grapple them(though it may still be worth it in specific cases even if you take an AOO) for reasons. Mind you, this is for low levels only. High level casters won't be phased by these kind of parlour tricks.

One thing that irritates them is to throw a tanglefoot bag at them. Hits touch ac, forces concentration checks for their casting.

The cheap way to imitate 5ft step-up would be to get a reach weapon, spiked armor, have at least 12 dex and take combat reflexes. Get adjacent to casty. If he 5fts, you still threaten with reach weapon. If he tries to move away to cast, trip him with your reach weapon. If it lands, he'll be prone and still threatened by your reach weapon, provoking a defensive casting check if he tries to spellcast.

I'm debating on whether or not Mo or Rorl would say anything.

It's a hard choice. XD

You know, I have been thinking (good job Blockhead!) and I think it was a lot more fun before when we were all friends and doing stupid things together rather then now where we are all vindictive, angry and mean.
So I am going to try and steer it back in that direction.

Note the bestiary entry on fast healing:

A creature with the fast healing special quality regains hit points at an exceptional rate, usually 1 or more hit points per round, as given in the creature’s entry. Except where noted here, fast healing is just like natural healing. Fast healing does not restore hit points lost from starvation, thirst, or suffocation, nor does it allow a creature to regrow lost body parts. Unless otherwise stated, it does not allow lost body parts to be reattached. Fast healing continues to function (even at negative hit points) until a creature dies, at which point the effects of fast healing end immediately.

You CANNOT regrow body parts.

Yeah, I was going to ask if people are still having fun. I know PvP can get some people sore, even when it's kind of goofy and you can regrow.

Personally, I wouldnt be super broken up about getting killed to death, but Ive never been really into PvP anyway. Usually, I'd be annoyed having to make a new character, finding an excuse to tie them into the game, etc...

None of those are a concern in hydraland.

But I have noticed the same spiral somehow occuring where one PC gets killed, comes back and revenge-kills someone, then they come back...

Mostly I just want to go back to the game.

I think that Blockhead biting off our own body parts is something that we should not condone. If his actions harm only himself, I have no qualms letting him do as he pleases - it's his business.

You note that I did not go after Hungry nor Hothead after the whole incident - however it turned out is fine by me. I chewed Blockhead up, because he should take responsibility for his actions.

And I agree with that, I'd just like to move on from the self-mutilation thing in general, which PvP still counts as.

And come on now. Dumb guy or not, Blockhead should still know not to chew off his own limbs.

Well, it was more along the idea of when a dog starts to chew his own leg (because of an itch or annoyance or something) and how it doesnt get anywhere near the point where he bites it off completely.
At this point I did not expect it to get anywhere near being actually bitten off and figured that I would get stopped/stop myself quickly.
Mostly I was going for a bit of a gag effect and a way to break the tension (tendon? Derp :p).

Urgh. I didnt know dogs did that. Remind me that if I get a pet, I'll get a cat. At least they don't need watching 24/7. But now I know what you were intending...

Oh and you'd better stop that before I send a blast of lightning at your face. You get warned before I actually start blasting.

They sometimes do, but it is more reflective of bad behavior or environment rather then a "normal" behavior.
But,...
Cats Rule!

Stopping!!!

*meows*

I was thinking... would it be better if heads 'died' and fell off as soon as they reached negative hit points, so there's no chance of awkwardly dragging around unconscious heads?

Hmm. That could work, or we'd be forced to CDG if we ran out of heals for the day. Id tell you if anyone told me my cleric is supposed to be a healbot, I'd get snippy. I'm a lot of things, healbot isn't one of them.

Again, might be prone to Blockhead abuse...hmm.

A field producing soyabeans has a much higher energy output then one used to raise cattle. Energy conversion and all that. Granted, some lands are unsuited to growing soya beans and only can be used for livestock. Thta being said, I'm hoping someone can come up with a vegetarian burger that you know, resembles the real thing?

I'm not vegetarian, but I could see the advantages of a vegetarian lifestyle on the environment. I also consume a huge amount of veges per day. A day without veges doesn't quite seem complete. Unfortunately, at this point of time, neither does a day without meat. Maybe someday in the future, that might change.

But that was a philosophical derail.

I dunno. As a barbarian and someone who deals self inflicted damage often, I have no intent of trying to abuse it. Remember, it was the GM who suggested that biting your own head off before combat and regrowing 2 heads was a viable tactic XD
I also have 18(22) Con and +6hp FCB so I do have a larger pool, but the Raptorbunny fight showed me how much damage a hard fight could do.

Honestly, a main draw of this character is that he is unrestrained by the puny mortals fear of decapatation so he can fight recklessly and heedless of consiquence. I can just throw him into the jaws of death without worry and just see what happens. And I am kinda relying on the free "get-out-of-death" cards to maintain that mentality.
The other draw of him is his Lovable BSF attitude where I get to do fun/less effective things.

I also think that we should just regrow if we fall unconscious (unless we are out of combat or at the end of combat) mainly to reduce the urgency for healing from the casters and lets them cast more of what, like fireballs. (you can still heal if you want!)

Question. (cuz I forgot)
If we died, took Con damage and revived, then slept for the night. Where does that put us?

I'm actually fine with you abusing your ability to regrow. Just as long as people are okay with how you do it--apparently biting off each other's heads is a very touchy subject.

I think I am going to rule that getting knocked unconscious causes your head to fall of and regrow, for the reasons mentioned.

As for your question, you would have healed one point of Con damage overnight, so you should be fine Con-wise.

Wow, so uh, the discussion thing for me this whole time (i.e. like two months or something. Whenever I last posted on discussion) has not told me there have been any new messages. Just read through the past things...feeling only moderately stupid.

I mean, you'd think the little person who decides to write if you've new messages wouldn't shirk their duty like that...heh...no one wants to sound like Tom.

Other things:

Was having fun both times you asked, still am. Getting to an interesting place where I think Tomorbataar's just sticking to his principles for the sake of sticking to them. Also lots and lots of narcissism. Not really unexpected, just interesting.

Never played IRL, but the people I know who play 3.5 are split evenly male/female.

Don't believe that magic breaks semblance of reality, so long as there is an internal consistency of reality I find things to be good. Read lots of Tolkien, think everyone should read his essay on Fairy Stories, touches on this. Willing to respect different opinions and not too interested in discussion.

Cats. Cats are smart enough to recognize their owner's voices, and their own names, they just don't respond because they don't care.

Been vegetarian for 658 days (going for 666), and in this time I've eaten quite a few beans, and felt good about my respect for the trophic pyramid. Still don't like vegetables though, but fake meat is cheating, isn't it? Anyhow, soy beans might be good, but a field of soy beans is still close to a dessert compared to an actual forest. Have you heard of sheet meet? Supposed to be real good.

Still don't see a problem with him cooking his friend...

Blockhead's player contacted me and said he's dealing with some real-life stuff right now, which is why he's been quiet recently. He said to bot him... but I'm having trouble coming up with something sufficiently Blockhead for him to say right now. XD Any suggestions?

Hmm...some suggestions:

Maybe he misunderstands what they're serving him

Zoned out the entire time that Kassmak's talking

Looks around for the trophies we keep

There's definitely something there wrt the humans and their employment of us. Perhaps some fundamental misunderstanding?

Have him break something.

Edit: Sorry I haven't been posting. I've been busy lately.

Fake meat is not cheating =P I believe that it is called creative developments in the food industry. Meh I'm quite the greedy guts in RL, and yes, I cook. And bake muffins. Pfft :)

The part about Soya beans was that so you could feed more people on the same piece of land, so you don't have to chop down that much forest.

Blockhead hrmmm. Maybe start bothering the all the heads to get trophies too?

Fake meat is cheating if you're goal is to ultimately be able to deflate people who think they're special because they're vegetarian, in my opinion. If you consider yourself a greedy guts you must know lots about food; have you got a favorite food? Or what about a favorite food to cook?

Yeah, that's definitely a uh, a good point. A lot of the time the forest itself is actually more productive, though, even in terms of things that we can pull out and sell to other humans.

The reason why I might be convinced to go vegetarian would be mainly for environmental reasons. When man spits on the earth, he spits on himself. There's an ever increasing world population and its' not as if we have endless land to feed people with.

Favorite food? No, I'm such a greedy guts I eat EVERYTHING. I even go to the point of trying to sample exotic foods so I can brag about it. I think so far the most exotic was grasshoppers. They tasted like potato chips :)

I've eaten frog, donkey, boar, crocodile, sea urchin...if I was given a chance to try tiger, snake, polar bear, salamander, I would not turn it down.

I don't believe in animal cruelty and all that, because if you're willing to eat meat, it means you're willing to contribute to the slaughter of animals. And I don't get fuzzy feelings towards animals. Maybe spending your time gutting up stuff stops that from ever happening.

Definitely agree with that, although we do have quite a bit of land with which to feed people, using less would be better. I still think the best reason to be vegitarian, though, is to mess with people.

I'm more of a ten foods person. Not that I have issues with eating odd things, just that I prefer foods which are like...bland. Grasshoppers like potato chips is interesting though, sounds like they could use more salt.

Well but like, if you're willing or not to contribute to the slaughter of animals shouldn't change whether or not it's morally incorrect to kill animals. I personally think it's certainly not morally correct to make and kill lots of animals, but they are far away so I don't really care. I've always wanted to eat a pet though, like just have a cat and then when it's near death kill it and eat it, to see what that's like. Have you done that? Is it interesting or fun or enlightening or something?

Don't have any pets to eat...unless you count the fish we kept, and we ate them. They tasted good =)

I think cats are a little stringy. Try a dog next time. Seriously. If you go to Vietnam and eat the duck fetuses, you'll be spitting out half grown feathers. Not worth the trouble.

Urm. Hope I'm not grossing anyone out.

There was an occasion I told my friend to meet me at a certain time. She came early, caught me having lunch.

Me: You shouldn't be here so early.
Her: What you eating?
Me: You don't want to know.
Her: But I do!
Me: I'm eating Quail.
Her: How could you eat something like that! They're so cute!

*sighs..I was just trying to spare her witnessing something she shouldn't...*

I just have to say, I find it hilarious that the discussion about a giant six-headed monster has ended up turning into a conversation about vegetarianism.

There's no problem with it, it's just one of those connections you never anticipate happening.

It's really six monsters though, isn't it?

Dunno that I'd count fish, depends on what kind of fish. Like, if you just keep it in a tank and feed it then you don't really get to bond with it or anything, and so it's not really that special when you eat it.

Also duck fetuses is pretty odd. I wonder if that counts as meat? I don't want to have to own a dog for years just so I can eat it, but I wouldn't mind a cat. I also don't know what stringy means when it's used to describe meat.

Quail's not that unusual though, is it? I think I've eaten quail a few times, but I can't really remember what it tasted like.

One of those connections that doesn't get anticipated, eh? Like the simpsons?

I recommend you check with your state/countries regulations before you attempt anything like that. Many countries/states have regulations prohibiting consumption of...dogs/cats and other non conventional animals that people usually eat. Then also, the slaughter of animals not in an abattoir is also illegal in many places.

If your neighbour rats you out after hearing the animal you're slaughtering cry out as you're killing it, you're in trouble.

Should you be killing using anything other then a firearm, expect a lot of mess to clean up afterwards.

If you still want to do it, make it quick and clean, for the animal's sake.

I've been forgetting about botting Blockhead. XD Let's see if I can fix that...

Prohibiting the consumption, huh? That sounds odd...I guess it's so like, starving people don't steal other people's pets? Or something? Maybe because otherwise pet stores would have to deal with food laws? Still seems a little odd. The slaughtering thing makes sense, though.

Not sure what the best way to kill would be, probably via drug overdose since it would be a one time thing and thus money wouldn't be such a big deal. I also do not know how to do butcher things, so that'd be a thing. Does feel like I'd want to do it all myself though, because otherwise it seems like I'd be missing the point.

If I were you, I'd chain the animal up, then slit the throat (don't completely server the jagular, the mess is >.<). Let it bleed out. Alternatively get a club and keep clubbing it over the head until it dies. If you kill using drug overdose, it may contaminate the meat, making it not fit for consumption.

If you are allowed firearms, aim for a headshot. Its pretty much fatal. I've seen the slaughter of chickens, I don't feel anything.

I can probably come up with something on the spot regarding butchering animals, since I've watched some natural geographic, done it on chickens and fish before. But the bigger the animal, the harder it is to cleave through bone(you'll want a nice sharp chopper and hope you do have sufficient strength).

And if you kill an animal without eating it, ill be quite put out with you, because that falls under animal cruelty in my book. Now if you ate the animal up, then well it wasnt as if the death of the animal wasn't necessary. We have to eat, no?

Sounds like a gun is the easiest way. There are probably some videos/tutorials for butchery.

The death of the animal was probably not necissary, regardless of whether or not you choose to eat its corpse.

1. Does doing something because you need to do it in order to survive make it morally acceptable? What about if your perception has been demonstrated to be false in similar and relevant ways?

2. Did you need to eat the animal?

The answer to both of these is admittedly ambiguous.

Answering both:

Doesn't quite work for me that way but if killing has a purpose(for me the only acceptable purposes are for eating and killing in self defence), then its fine. If state laws do not prohibit, or unless its unsanitary(no rats, thanks), you should eat the animal.

I don't really understand how wanting to eat an animal gives you a good reason to kill it.

Rats are often a disease vector, but when kept as pets they are typically quite clean.

In other news, I ate lamb chops yesterday, they tasted soft and watery, and made me want to throw up a bit. Very good though. If you've never tried being vegitarian for a long while, I suggest you try it, it's fun.

Different strokes for different people. Well, could you give me a good salad dressing, and I'll give vegetarianism a shot?

P.S I was lacto vegetarian for 2 years because my friend was and I didn't want to offend her sensibilities on meal times with her.

I don't like salad. You could try uh...maybe just eat the ingredients one by one? I'm definitely not skilled when it comes to the culinary arts.

I'm also going to sleep soon, so I'm probably not going to post too many more times in gameplay straight away. Probably fine anyway, since it'll give the others a chance to post reactions and that.

I have to eat my salad with canned tuna, because I need some kind of dressing for my salad or its too dry. The problem is I don't take the standard balsamic vinegar and olive oil dressing well(too sour), and generally don't take any mayo/thousand island based salad dressing. Otherwise I'm generally not consuming that much meat.

Eating ingredients seperate is too dry. You need some sauce and probably a little oil to smoothen it.