@Sarcon and it was fun for me until you came in and threw a tantrum about such a silly mistake
Now now, let us all try to be civil about this. There is no reason to scratch at the facade of respectability. As the DM mentioned, we're all on the same team here, right? We're all here to tell a story.
I dont know where you are getting that I made a fit. I merely didn't think the two situations were comparable, and I stated my reasons. You were the one making threats and accusations.
If you haven't noticed, it's my intent to treat everyone as a friend from the start, and to treat them as they treat me from there
Ahem, perhaps it is time for a bit of improved behavior on my side and at the same time; I can point out that arguing over this most likely will have no other effect than to turn both parties more bitter and angry, so shall we stop it?
I don't recall making threats, andall I wanted to do was act according to my new understanding of the rules, when no one else had even gotten to go yet, and you weren't having it. That's making a big deal out of something small, which I relate to throwing a fit, but I guess that's an exaggerated take.
Ahem, perhaps it is time for a bit of improved behavior on my side and at the same time; I can point out that arguing over this most likely will have no other effect than to turn both parties more bitter and angry, so shall we stop it?
@Victor As I said, I don't even care about the outcome so much, I just want to be treated fairly. I agree, it's settled now. No reason to dwell on the matter.
I simply disagreed, that's all. No ill will was intended. The GM had yet to make a ruling, and I was arguing my position. Now that he has, there's no problem.
Ahem, perhaps it is time for a bit of improved behavior on my side and at the same time; I can point out that arguing over this most likely will have no other effect than to turn both parties more bitter and angry, so shall we stop it?
That post wasn't up yet when I started typing the one before it.
Alright Fate, well, I believe we are all waiting for a will save from you.
Which reminds me, I do not believe that we have been introduced at all. Mark here, glad to meet you.
I'm Jim, more commonly known as Jimi Bones. Sorry about all the hullabaloo
Man, I just realized Sanza finally got to go and rolled a crit for his first action in the game, which has to be re-rolled lol. Man that sucks, especially because it wound up being ruled to indeed be his turn.
Jimi Bones, eh? I happen to know a thing or two about bones. One could say that Victor happens to know a lot about them.
Does Fate realize it's her turn? She owes a save, but if she passes she can act. She was here moments ago, I would have thought she would have went, which leads me to think maybe she didn't realize it was her turn at all.
Wait a moment..... FATE! FAAAAAATE!
Throw some of that Misfortune skill my way!
Ah, there ya go
@Crystal Apparently since my blindness only lasted one round, it wore off just before my turn in initiative, which means you are indeed susceptible to the spell again and need to make a save for the second spell, same goes for Sarcon. If you pass, you will still be stunned for 1 more round from the first casting. If you fail, the new spell will overlap the first.
The Combat Round
Each round represents 6 seconds in the game world; there are 10 rounds in a minute of combat. A round normally allows each character involved in a combat situation to act.
Each round's activity begins with the character with the highest initiative result and then proceeds in order. When a character's turn comes up in the initiative sequence, that character performs his entire round's worth of actions. (For exceptions, see Attacks of Opportunity and Special Initiative Actions.)
When the rules refer to a "full round", they usually mean a span of time from a particular initiative count in one round to the same initiative count in the next round. Effects that last a certain number of rounds end just before the same initiative count that they began on.
oh yeah yur right, she did. Sarcon needs to make one if he's still playing though.
It seems that Wintrish is willing to wait for the arrival of the guardsmen, perhaps we should just see if everyone is willing to speed forward to their arrival and their detainment of select individuals?
I'm not interested. Robbing Sarcon for his attempt is much more my style. He's lucky I have no proof or I'd kill him as well. But, like I said, I make options. A peaceful resolve is my go to option if robbing him should fail. I've set the scene for both.
You do realize that you will have to either cut down all of us or wait for either Crystal or Victor to wake from their slumber before you can get a hold of his gold.
Victor would allow it due to Sarcon's nature of spontaneous violence. (And the fact that he isn't a player anymore.)
Actually, I said that wrong, I can optimize those words much better lol.
I've set the scene for a peaceful resolve, but if robbing him is an option, my character will certainly do so, as he feels it a perfectly justified response to attempted murder. I've done my best to make both things an option so that I can make a decision at the last minute.
Why would I need to wait for one of them to wake to get his gold?
I think he meant "so Marcello doesn't cut you in half".
Exactly, Kal. Exactly.
That is statistically unlikely to knock him out in a single blow.
1/6 of a chance if Marcello hits, to be exact. And that's assuming Ransaq is stupid enough to walk into his sword (you mind if I rob your friend here, sir knight?) and not just color spray again.
Ah yes, that's a given lol. Marcello will have to be dealt with first, since he can easily chop me down in a round or 2.
I don't even have mage armor up, lol.
Yep, but like hp, it doesn't matter if you don't get the chance. Something I've bossed the crap out of.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not so arrogant that I believe my methods guaranteed, I'm just confident in the probability.
@GM Since Sarcon is stunned, doesn't that actually mean anyone on our team can go?
Am I the only one finding this situation amusing? (Presumably, as it is only his word that can be taken at the moment, or really at any moment) Elf color magic blasts our group, then again. Meanwhile, our 'evil' teammate, instead of trying to murdalize somebody, instead stands guard over us while we attempt to recover our wits whilst calling for the proper authorities.
Meanwhile, without question for the elf's motives beyond the elf saying that we were going to draw (and not knowing the elf is a diviner capable of spidey senses, and knowing the elf for all of a couple hours, actually), one of the 'good' team members saunters over and tries to go murderhobo on a relatively helpless old man.
It feels like bizarro world.
An old man that just dropped his only mean of supporting his own weight, an old innocent man with children and hopes.
Are you sure that we are playing as the evil ones?
Yur right, it looks pretty bad huh, lol. The GM kinda had the same opinion on Sanza's actions, to which I replied
Imagine you were part of an elite combat team in real life, such as the marines or police force, and that happened to you. Everyone would immediately take whatever action required to eliminate the threat without hesitation of any kind. If they questioned it at all, it would not be until later.
Also, the fact that we just met means he's a rookie on this team. Veterans act immediately without question as procedure. Rookies do the same, but tend to be eager to prove themselves to the team.
@Victor lol, however none of you drop prone from being stunned. You just drop whatever's in your hands.
I don't know if that's what you meant, but I noticed you thought you fell prone before.
Imagine you were part of an elite combat team in real life, such as the marines or police force, and that happened to you. Everyone would immediately take whatever action required to eliminate the threat without hesitation of any kind. If they questioned it at all, it would not be until later.
The thing with that is that you are playing as good characters; Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others, they will even attempt to redeem those who has fallen to evil.
Going murderhobo on an elderly man that has done nothing that indicates that he is evil, AT ALL, beyond being near and appearing to be on a talking foot with a violent half-orc. Beyond that, this man is already immobilized by magic.
Why would a good character begin stabbing that old man?
Not complaining at all. While I would have appreciated Sanza at least RPing the 'eagerness to please' aspect of his newfound murderous tendencies, I am finding this very funny.
Edit: Allies, please note I was only trying to be humorous. I wasn't wanting to start another discussion on 'appropriate' actions of the other team. When it comes down to it, while we have 'technically' done nothing wrong to these guys, our crimes are black and numerous, and we deserve neither mercy, nor quarter.
My only request, which I stated earlier, is that the hero PC's at least formulate a RP reason for assisting in what most if not all of them would see as a blatant sucker punch by Ransaq.
Ah I see, yur referring more to Sansza's lethal actions rather than my nonlethal actions. I can see your point. But, I did kinda cover that when mentioning that rookies on those teams are eager to take action. They often over compensate. This is just my reasoning to why his character may act this way in game though. Should you convince the magistrate Sargon meant not to initiate combat, that defense will not hold up. If I convince the magistrate he did though, a lethal backstabbing at that, Sanza would likely go unpunished.
Just my 2 bits.
Yes! YEEES! Our Sarcon is back.
Welcome back Sarcon, no hard feelings. I've gotten into arguments with my own team mates at times as well, and have no hard feelings toward them either.
I don't think he said he was back, just that he was sorry about what happened. I certainly don't mind if he is back, but just to clarify I don't think that's what he was actually saying.
Ah. If that's the case then I misunderstood. Either way though, no hard feelings
@GM Do we all have to sit here and wait for Sanza to go, or can the rest of our team act since Sarcon is stunned? In my games that would include me since I will be next to go in the 2nd round, and it would be my teams turn to act, but you could certainly confine the groupings to the current round. Either way, I'm not going until my party has went, but it may speed things up if Garroth, Mel, and Patricie could go.
Ah I see, yur referring more to Sansza's lethal actions rather than my nonlethal actions. I can see your point. But, I did kinda cover that when mentioning that rookies on those teams are eager to take action. They often over compensate. This is just my reasoning to why his character may act this way in game though. Should you convince the magistrate Sargon meant not to initiate combat, that defense will not hold up. If I convince the magistrate he did though, a lethal backstabbing at that, Sanza would likely go unpunished.
Just my 2 bits.
Absolutely. You acted in self-defense. From Sanza's perspective, this guy he just met and would likely want to get in good with starts going crazy, spraying us with magic, telling him Sarcon intended to stab said new acquaintance when Sanza saw no such thing occur. Sanza is Chaotic Good. So while he doesn't respect the law much, he is overall good-hearted and would likely react poorly to your (re)action (especially not having the benefit of your insight).
And all this might be a moot point, anyway, as I don't think Sanza has stated he is accepting the action yet, unless he has done it on your Save the City gameplay thread. Regardless, be funny with it, be creative, just state that you're Ransaq's secret lover and trust everything he says, but try to at least give your (not you Ransaq, you KNOW what was about to go down) characters some reasoning as to why they would participate in this 'obvious' unprovoked attack. For my entertainment and good role-playing practice.